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341  Economy / Economics / Re: If there will only ever be 21 million BCH in existence... on: November 18, 2017, 12:51:51 AM
... won't burning them make the rest of the BCH proportionally worth more?

(assuming BCH isn't forked to remove the 21M hard limit)

Sorry if I have missed something but why would BCH coins be burnt?

A win-win between
BCH true believers who'll dispose of the BTC they call "1MB cripple coins" (-Roger Ver) in exchange for making their BCH more scarce
and
BTC true believers who don't want to sell their split BCH (pronounced 'bish') into circulation between true believers and BCH victims, possibly incurring criminal or civil liability, but do want to be compensated for the split value-destroyed
342  Economy / Economics / If there will only ever be 21 million BCH in existence... on: November 18, 2017, 12:30:48 AM
... won't burning them make the rest of the BCH proportionally worth more?

(assuming BCH isn't forked to remove the 21M hard limit)
343  Other / Archival / Re: [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 10 on: November 16, 2017, 08:00:42 AM
Payment address PMd.

ETA: Paid, another in-kind donation of goods to charity pending.
344  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 16, 2017, 07:15:30 AM
TheButterZone, here's a word of advice: Ignore that shill account and save yourself the time. It is likely someone that got denied entry to a campaign or got booted out of one since both aTriz and Aventhe are campaign managers. Therefore, their concern is not legitimate but rather just a vendetta out of spite.

345  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 16, 2017, 07:00:29 AM
Well i can't go alone to bring this revolution Wink

The world is a dangerous place to live;
not because of the poeple who are evil,
but because of people who don't do anything
about it.

- Albert Einstein

Again, quote properly.

Legendary members, the forum's global moderators, all complaining, wasting our time/money (because time IS money). You're not alone. Be the one who finally gives us enough leverage to tear down this wall!
346  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 16, 2017, 06:42:31 AM
Quote
No, they haven't LITERALLY admitted that, in their posts I quote below. Fucking English, how does it work?

They were libeled/bullied into proxy bullying ME/micromanaging MY trust page - removing honest ratings in accordance with the feedback page's instruction that Positive="or had a successful trade". Well guess what? I'll change my freely-given ratings when the feedback page no longer instructs me to do so as-is status quo, and makes Neutral ratings for "had a successful trade", rather than Positive.

The problem is not you but them! They knew they will get positive feedback if they trade with you, You are not the problem right now, Their intentions are.

Fix my quote, stalker.

No, they know they should get positive feedback if they have a successful trade with whom, on this forum (who actually obey the feedback page's instruction)? That's right...



Well i guess, you too are the part of the problem! You are not seeing the bigger picture here. A Scammer buys an email from you, gets a +1, Does a few trades, gets more green. Then finally Tries to get a loan or starts an escrow and runs away with a good amount of BTC. If people start giving out the positive feedback for cents or few dollars, the community will suffer a lot.

Well I guess, fuck you and your libelous SHIT.

I didn't make the forum rule I've cited over and over and over again. But I'm damn sure going to abide by it as long as our complaints don't result in change.

How about instead of trying to micromanage ratings, you try to macromanage them & get the forum's rule changed? Nobody's stopping you. How much BTC do you have to "bribe" with?
347  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 16, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Quote
No, they haven't LITERALLY admitted that, in their posts I quote below. Fucking English, how does it work?

They were libeled/bullied into proxy bullying ME/micromanaging MY trust page - removing honest ratings in accordance with the feedback page's instruction that Positive="or had a successful trade". Well guess what? I'll change my freely-given ratings when the feedback page no longer instructs me to do so as-is status quo, and makes Neutral ratings for "had a successful trade", rather than Positive.

The problem is not you but them! They knew they will get positive feedback if they trade with you, You are not the problem right now, Their intentions are.

Fix my quote, stalker.

No, they know they should get positive feedback if they have a successful trade with whom, on this forum (who actually obey the feedback page's instruction)? That's right...



Fucking HATE having to be redundant, but:

If you want to prove that you're actively using my email forwarding service, sign this message inside the quotes with the BTC address in your contract & PM it only to TheButterZone: "I waive the right to privacy specifically limited to TheButterZone publicly posting only the dates from my email forwarding traffic log."
348  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 16, 2017, 06:17:16 AM
So in this case why are Atriz and Aventhe not getting their red paint? (...) They have literally admitted that they bought the emails to gain trust.

No, they haven't LITERALLY admitted that, in their posts I quote below. Fucking English, how does it work?

They were libeled/bullied into proxy bullying ME/micromanaging MY trust page - removing honest ratings in accordance with the feedback page's instruction that Positive="or had a successful trade". Well guess what? I'll change my freely-given ratings when the feedback page no longer instructs me to do so as-is status quo, and makes Neutral ratings for "had a successful trade", rather than Positive.

1. I needed funds for a short amount of time for my own reason, this is just miscommunication between lender and me.

2. I'm using my business email for this account, one email per btt account.

3. Ok? Is not wanting to spend that much money on coins a problem?

I really can't prove that you're telling the truth. You can keep making excuses, I want to see what other people have to say.

2. You know how shitty SMF is. It even says that the email has to be active. Ive tried making accounts with the same email, and with invalid domains and they still work.


Sure okay.

I guess the trust for email is a bit too much. I'll shoot a pm and get that removed. The rest are all valid though.

I too would like to apologize for this, as aTriz said for himself, it is not how I would like to be portrayed.

I have asked both TBZ and Taras to change the trust rating to a neutral one or remove it if they wish to. The loan from Taras was also for a private reason, though it got repaid as soon as I got paid by my employers.

I would have to agree that it sounds shady in this case, yet it was never my intention to do so. As for the scamming as you said, a user already knows my address.

Once more I apologize for this, and I hope to be on this forum for years to come, with or without trust.

Regards, - Aventhe
349  Other / Archival / Re: [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 10 on: November 15, 2017, 08:09:48 AM
bump
350  Other / Archival / Re: [Auction] 1 Mystery Box - Round 10 on: November 14, 2017, 08:03:42 AM
bump
351  Economy / Reputation / Re: The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Stake Your PGP Key Here on: November 14, 2017, 01:53:57 AM
Quoted for the future, but it seems your PGP will expire beginning 2018.

I just keep bumping its expiration date every year. That plus the revcert should be enough in case SHTF & I need to generate a new primary key.

Bumped:
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352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BCH bleeding death? on: November 14, 2017, 01:50:28 AM
To save BCH from going to $0, you must burn it!
353  Economy / Reputation / Re: Forums stand in regards to users that have free Tx accelerators threads on: November 13, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Is ViaBTC's accelerator still running? My bookmark failed last time I checked. At least with them you could only submit exactly at the top of each hour (before they got full the other at least 59 minutes of the hour), so it required setting an alarm to remind you to get to your computer minutes early, refreshing to get past server lag, having the TXID in your clipboard ready to keystroke combo that bastard in, at the exact moment your time server-synced clock struck xx:00:00. I accelerated a few on Periscope screencast for those who couldn't manage to do that.

You mean I could have charged for that game?  Cry
354  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 13, 2017, 05:54:31 AM
WTF!? So that, plus "Risked BTC amount", plus "or had a successful trade"...
Well, it seems that you are confused about it. I tried to clarify that there's a huge difference between adding a ~Ļand keeping/removing a rating from someone. I tend to rarely leave positive ratings, regardless of whether there were deals with someone or not. Tongue

Can Bitcointalk's feedback system have just a single aspect that isn't a steaming pile of useless shit?
IMO it isn't too difficult to understand if you give it some time and think it really through.

So, you understand it well enough to rarely use 1/3 of the steaming pile of useless shit. Why then, should the forum have any rating level other than negative?

I do remember reading theymos' post somewhere that the new forum was going to be released "next year". That was multiple years ago.
That doesn't necessarily imply a completely revamped trust system.

With this much donated & ongoing transactional BTC at stake, why in the fuck would we want not only to keep Bitcointalk SMF's feedback system a steaming pile of useless shit because dev time is ostensibly focused on the new forum, but to also celebrate the release of the new forum with a similarly-steaming pile of useless shit for its feedback system?
355  Economy / Reputation / Re: The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Stake Your PGP Key Here on: November 13, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
Should be able to revcert this one if need be...

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356  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: How to override the default 0.0002 transaction fee? on: November 13, 2017, 12:13:21 AM
Is this things still work today in 2017, I tried it, its not working anymore with backlog of transaction probably will not work for sometime, anyone have good result please share

https://github.com/TheButterZone/electrum/commit/fca33e290015b475463481fc9b6626489aad5495#commitcomment-25346743
357  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 12, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
Instead, since I don't understand how DT works & probably never will, here are the newest additions to my trust list that I appended & got mixed in after I hit Update (or maybe I should just replace my entire trust list with "~DefaultTrust" or whatever will fuck the entire membership out, because you assholes can't or won't properly manage & read feedback):
-snip-
Excluding them doesn't do what you think it does IMO. Adding ~ to someone's name, as a DT2 member has the following effects:
1) It makes their ratings worthless from your perspective. This does nothing if they are not DT1, DT2 and you don't use any lower tiers (whichever they may be on). It does not affect what others see.
2) It may discredit their own ratings.
3) Your rating still has an effect on their total trust score and will be seen by others by default.

WTF!? So that, plus "Risked BTC amount", plus "or had a successful trade"...

Can Bitcointalk's feedback system have just a single aspect that isn't a steaming pile of useless shit?
358  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 12, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
I won't be giving any more positive feedback for the time being.

Not being able to honestly follow the forum feedback page's instruction for "or had a successful trade" because the rating system is shit & includes "Risked BTC amount" for apparently no fucking reason (not even weighting, as I explained my thoughts on above), makes me want to ragequit.

Instead, since I don't understand how DT works & probably never will, here are the newest additions to my trust list that I appended & got mixed in after I hit Update (or maybe I should just replace my entire trust list with "~DefaultTrust" or whatever will fuck the entire membership out, because you assholes can't or won't properly manage & read feedback):
Code:
~Chevas Regal
~Lone Shark
~LuanX3
~betudontbet
~bL4nkcode
~subSTRATA
~Roboabhishek
~zupdawg
~SM23031997
~CoolWave
~aTriz
~Decoded
~Aventhe
~BlockEye
~jamalaezaz

These now-excluded users (except aTriz & jamalaezaz) picked my 3letter1number.com domain. Why are you so certain nobody would want a short uncommon email domain anymore, hilariousetc? I personally am sick of seeing @gmail.com all the time, both aesthetically & because it makes everyone an easier target for having their emails hacked or legally/illegally viewed by totalitarians. You seem to have ignored where I said this:

On that front, save 1 person, the preference has been for my 3letter1number.com domain over my 13letter.com - which makes sense, as I'm not sure how many 3letter.com (did I forget about any 2letters?) email services are still alive other than Cox & AOL. ICQ, MSN (now Live.com, spammer/scammer central)?

ETA:
Send everyone (except jamalaezaz the mystery box customer, obviously) in the code box above, a PM with this paragraph quoted:
If you want to prove that you're actively using my email forwarding service, sign this message inside the quotes with the BTC address in your contract & PM it only to TheButterZone: "I waive the right to privacy specifically limited to TheButterZone publicly posting only the dates from my email forwarding traffic log."
359  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 12, 2017, 07:19:52 AM
But for example Quickseller (escrowing to himself with alts) and Bobsurplus (known for altcoin pump&dumps with several connections to scams/scammer) are quite questionable/shady members on your trust list.

...

"Fuck's sake, man, you're amateur." -Christian Bale

Prefix a user's name with a tilde (~) if you want to exclude them from your trust network.
360  Economy / Reputation / Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming? on: November 12, 2017, 05:03:23 AM
You're using the feedback system as intended, but this isn't really an issue with anything you are doing, but (arguably) others just buying things merely for the default trust feedback (which like it or not people obviously want  to help make them look more trusted/established) for whatever reason, hence why some people are likely just buying things they very probably don't need, want or use.

On that front, save 1 person, the preference has been for my 3letter1number.com domain over my 13letter.com - which makes sense, as I'm not sure how many 3letter.com (did I forget about any 2letters?) email services are still alive other than Cox & AOL. ICQ, MSN (now Live.com, spammer/scammer central)?

Nope. My problem is when someone does a trade, just for that number. That number holds a disgusting amount of weight around here. And it just ends up with people looking for others who can give it to them easily.

Basically people looking for another CanaryInTheMine.

I've either forgotten or wasn't fully briefed on CITM. Are the feedback instructions the same now as they were back then? Was CITM putting down risked BTC to add undeserved weight to those who sent first/before contracts were in force?

If I recall correctly CITM was leaving feedback for anyone who did a trade with him then adding them to his trust list so he was artificially inflating his own score and people would then be only trading with him for the inevitable feedback and the inclusion onto default trust (thus essentially just buying their way onto it).

Ok, well for what it's worth, my depth is 2 & this is my list:
Code:
~theymos
~Luke-Jr
dooglus
~grue
gmaxwell
~piuk
Tomatocage
~BadBear
~GlooBoy
~Bicknellski
~Wardrick
~Xialla
Mitchell
~cornfeedhobo
~yogg
~BitWhale
~bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc
~Bobsurplus
~fruito
~n3rvi0zz0
~Quickseller
~Graven
~BitcoinDistributor
~adzino
~GiovanniDiCosimo
~bitswapp
~valduz10
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