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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: if you live in the EU, watch your profit. I've already turned off my rigs. on: March 18, 2018, 10:09:12 PM
Dutch, $0.30 / watt

4500 from the wall / hour.


And I Will Go on mining, even if it Will cost me my fiat money.
Why ? Because it Will rise again, when ? Don't know, but it Will.
The crash now has 1 advantage, the whiners who thought to get rich quick Will be gone soon. And so Will the topics about mining is dead and mining isn't profitable anymore.

Costs are a bit lower here in Belgium bro, but still almost same situation. My rig has been offline for a few weeks now. I feel your pain.. And I think it will take a _long_ time for the market to recover.
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 18, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
Or you could just sell me your gpu's cheap and you won't have to worry about it.


Where you located? Might want to sell my GPUs..
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 06:09:49 PM
Well its a good thing you don't handle job interviews and you are stuck on these forums trying to correct wrongs that can't be corrected.


Another +5 merit. You are on fire today. Smiley
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
If I give someone a job interview and they don't know the terminology or meaning of the words they are saying, then they are not going to get the job.


Job interview > Real life > Needed for income (as in "money to pay for food, shelter, electricity, family, ...") > VERY IMPORTANT for most of us..

Bitcoin Forum > Online life > Just for fun > Most of us can still have a decent life without it.. Smiley


You guys know what I mean.
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 06:01:11 PM
Of course everyone knows what they mean.  I just don't like getting into the habit of sounding like I don't know what I'm talking about, especially if I'm in front of people that I may hope to do business with in the future. 


If you are so superficial that you won't do business with people because they -accidently or purposefully- use wrong words.... You might lose more than you gain. So superficial.
1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:56:03 PM
I don't think anyone is dumb, because they never knew the difference.  There was a time when I didn't know the difference.  


True... I knew it was "wrong", and yet I kept (and still will be) using it.
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:54:57 PM

Anyway, putting aside the playfulness.. Kinda weird that you get fed up by people using the wrong terms/words for something.
If I were to react like that to every mistake/error I see IRL or online.. It would make me sour in the end.

It goes beyond just people using the wrong terms, I think.  Words and concepts change over time, but that makes it harder to communicate with each other if we allow people to just do it wrong on purpose and not care.  It's probably too late to just be the little boy sticking his finger in the dyke over the meaning of "ROI"... but it still has to be done.  It's the same kind of attitude I see online or IRL where people are apathetic and non-principled.  Don't get me started on emojis... like I said above in another reply... I may just be getting old and cranky.


Whenever someone is saying ROI, you do know what they actually mean, right? Just let it be...
1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Poll for using "ROI" versus "CR" (Capital Recovery) on: March 17, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
My votes:

Quote
- No, puwaha... you are dumb
- ROI is just slang man, let it go
- Who cares!  We know what people mean!
- I just like clicking buttons

1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:44:13 PM
He is President of the Forum for the day.

+ 5 merit for you


I had a college exam today. I think I failed it. This topic is making me smile again.
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:42:49 PM
Maybe you can get together with your anally retentive 'Capital Recovery' pal for afternoon tea and cake to dscuss how ignorant we are. As if it matters or anybody cares, LOL.

+25 merit. Love the attitude. Smiley

If I had any merit to give away anymore I would do the same, just for putting that song from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory called "Pure Imagination" running though my head.

Thanks Vann!


See how ROI can make you smile there?  Smiley


Anyway, putting aside the playfulness.. Kinda weird that you get fed up by people using the wrong terms/words for something.
If I were to react like that to every mistake/error I see IRL or online.. It would make me sour in the end.
1091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:35:22 PM
Maybe you can get together with your anally retentive 'Capital Recovery' pal for afternoon tea and cake to dscuss how ignorant we are. As if it matters or anybody cares, LOL.

+25 merit. Love the attitude. Smiley
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please stop using "ROI" when you mean Capital Recovery. it makes you sound dumb. on: March 17, 2018, 05:33:09 PM
I used ROI many times ... So call me dumb. Don't care.
ROI ROI ROI ROI ROI.
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ caught fire on: March 16, 2018, 08:57:42 PM
I'm using RX570s and 1080tis. Each power line coming from the PSU to the risers is connected to 3 risers using a SATA power cable. Some of the risers use molex connections (using SATA => molex adapter), some (moulded) SATA connections. Does this mean I'm also overloading these lines? O.o
Also: I'm European, so 230V here.

Grounds are connected through Add2PSU btw.


Same way here. I tried to avoid that, but ended up doing it too. I must say I kept feeling those connectors at least 3 times a day to see if they would not heat up.
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ caught fire on: March 16, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
that you are connected auxilliary  power from a different psu

My first concern too!
1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option on: March 16, 2018, 03:24:14 PM
December was unrealistically high profit wise - now we're back around where we were in ~September time frame last year.  We had a major bull run in the late spring and early summer of 2017, followed by a low spot at the end of summer, and then another crazy bull run at the end of 2017.  Right now I expect to see those with credit card debts (for hardware) to be panicking and cashing out, but if you're hardware is paid for there's no reason to panic imo.

Bunch of people are selling rigs, they have made calculations when mining was at the Peak.
Now with changes in profit gains they have made decision to sell of hardware and even make some profit on it.


I got ROI pretty fast.. I stopped mining. Hoping times will change.

well, I got ROId may cards as well, that is why I do not see any reason why should I stop the mining process?!
I have like about 150 usd the bill for electricity last month, and even with current low prices and profits I can earn about 50$ per day, that mean that after 3 days of mining I'm covering my expenses for electricity..  So all above that is pure profit, why should leave that?!

My rig brings in only 6 euro a day (180 a month) and my elec bill is around 90.. Not worth it for me.
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option on: March 16, 2018, 01:43:49 PM
Stop mining will be necessary only when the payment for light will be more profit from mining  Wink

Idd. Happening to me now.
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option on: March 16, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
December was unrealistically high profit wise - now we're back around where we were in ~September time frame last year.  We had a major bull run in the late spring and early summer of 2017, followed by a low spot at the end of summer, and then another crazy bull run at the end of 2017.  Right now I expect to see those with credit card debts (for hardware) to be panicking and cashing out, but if you're hardware is paid for there's no reason to panic imo.

Bunch of people are selling rigs, they have made calculations when mining was at the Peak.
Now with changes in profit gains they have made decision to sell of hardware and even make some profit on it.


I got ROI pretty fast.. I stopped mining. Hoping times will change.
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☑☑☑[ANN][BSD] BitSend -The first Segwit Masternodecoin 0.14.0.5 New Version on: March 12, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
Thank you for the weekly airdrop! Smiley
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option on: March 11, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
what would you pick.

a 1080 card, or a 1080ti card (price is excactly 20% more for the ti).




1080Ti is 20-25% more profitable (depends on the algo) so if the price differs 20% I would go with the Ti.
Plus you will have a more up to date GPU to keep up with the global hashrate.
Try to get Asus, Zotac, MSI or Gigabyte Aorus. Don't go for some shitty case, you will experience lesser hashrate and higher temperatures.

My 1080 ti has 40% more hashrate than my 1080.. If I was to invest again, it would be ti's.
1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Stop Windows 10 Update on: March 08, 2018, 07:28:40 PM
The fix is really easy. Run Linux. Windows is crap for mining and it wont get any better.

You will no longer have:

Driver problems
Reliability problems
Windows update breaking things
Random blue screens
Licensing issues



Example of one of my linux miners:

[/root]:# uptime
 14:22:55 up 152 days, 20:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.78, 0.80, 1.06
[Agent: 11152 (Running) Total HR: [2.71Kh/s] Miners running [1] GPUs [AAAAAA]]


I only have 4 GPUs running, so maybe it's just me...

Driver problems - Never had one.
Reliability problems - Never had one.
Windows update breaking things - The tool fixed it, so.. No problems there.
Random blue screens  - Never had one.
Licensing issues  - Never had one. Had an unused license.


There's no reason to switch to Linux. For newbies Linux might be even more difficult to understand.
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