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2301  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Team ## SPANISH COINS ## en 50BTC.com on: June 14, 2013, 07:49:26 PM
Esto debería estar en el subforo de minería.

A parte de que ese/a pool ya tiene suficiente cuota, sería más positivo para la red minar en alguno/a más minoritario/a.

Gracias por tu opinión, ¿en cual estás tu? ¿recomiendas alguno?

Yo comenté esto para tener un team en 50btc de hispanos, nada mas.
http://blockchain.info/pools

Me refiero a que no tiene sentido que se diga como punto positivo de BTC que está descentralizada, cuando en realidad el 80% del procesamiento está en 5 manos. Al menos la piscina que has propuesto no es la Nº1 (ni la segunda), y habrá que ver la de ASIC miner, porque lo mismo se terminan convirtiendo en un problema como lo fue Deepbit en su día.

La política de AsicMiner es mantenerse "alejado" del 51% para que no se pueda sentir como una amenaza. Aunque si que es cierto que cuando aumenta el hashrate ellos también lo aumentan rápidamente para poder seguir teniendo el mismo %, por lo que me hace pensar que podrían tener ASICs parados esperando entrar en acción.
2302  Local / Mercadillo / Re: BitStore en España! >>Monedas Casascius, USB ASICMINER y mucho más<< on: June 14, 2013, 07:36:56 PM
Busca info aquí, tienes varios hilos de usuarios con USB-FPGA´s

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=44.0 

Gracias!

Lo que más he visto que utiliza la gente son los Anker de 10 puertos. El problema es que no he visto a nadie que los venda en España, y salen a 40€+envío+aduanas+tiempo de espera desde USA. Por lo que no merecen la pena.
2303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New article: Price as a factor of difficulty on: June 14, 2013, 07:32:26 PM
Article by Gabi: difficulty directly depends on price.

If bitcoin price increase then difficulty increase.
If bitcoin price decrease then difficulty decrease.

That's all (ignoring of course new hardware, of course if for the same price you can buy an ASIC instead of a GPU then difficulty will happily increase even if the price doesn't change or decrease, but those are rare situations, like from cpu to gpu mining or from gpu to asic mining)

That is also another scenario that stands true. If Bitcoin loses value, the difficulty decreases. However, you could say it almost increases or stays normal because people jump on when they see the difficulty decrease. Also, try looking at the difficulty for the past year. Probably 2 or 3 2016 block rounds that had a difficulty decrease. So this is technically all theoretical. We'd like to think it SHOULD happen, but in reality it doesn't. People mine regardless of network/market fluctuations.

Fast example: bitcoin goes down to $0,20, do you think hashrate will keep increasing?
Will happen the same if price go down to $50. Maybe here will just decrease the grow rate, but it probably won't come negative because now all ASICs are coming.
2304  Local / Mercadillo / Re: BitStore en España! >>Monedas Casascius, USB ASICMINER y mucho más<< on: June 14, 2013, 07:17:56 PM
OJO! No compréis estos hubs de Conceptronic para los USB! Ya he fundido 2 hubs (los USB siguen intactos, no os preocupéis Smiley ). A pesar de que ofrecen 2A y deberían aceptar 4x USB a la vez, acaban dando problemas.

http://www.amazon.es/Conceptronic-C05-132-puertos-fuente-alimentaci%C3%B3n/dp/B00456TM8Q/ref=sr_1_sc_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1370994598&sr=8-12-spell&keywords=usb+hub+ma



Yo personalmente tengo estos Trust y funcionan de maravilla. También son de 2A, pero soportan sin problemas 4x USB de manera continuada.

http://www.trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=15140


Me gustaría probar este, pero no se que potencia tiene y no quiero arriesgarme.

http://www.amazon.com/Bynovel-Monster-Adapter-Station-Devices/dp/B004IS22WO
2305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia Donation by Bitcoin! on: June 14, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
Done!  Wink

Worth trying!
2306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New article: Price as a factor of difficulty on: June 14, 2013, 06:24:12 PM
Article by Gabi: difficulty directly depends on price.

If bitcoin price increase then difficulty increase.
If bitcoin price decrease then difficulty decrease.

That's all (ignoring of course new hardware, of course if for the same price you can buy an ASIC instead of a GPU then difficulty will happily increase even if the price doesn't change or decrease, but those are rare situations, like from cpu to gpu mining or from gpu to asic mining)

+999

Is just that. Thanks.
2307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New article: Price as a factor of difficulty on: June 14, 2013, 06:17:11 PM
I think btc price is not directly correlated with difficult, is the opposite.

Difficult needs to adjust to btc price, because less efficient miners need to shutdown their equipments.


So you are basically saying that as Bitcoins get more expensive, difficulty needs to go up? And because of the difficulty increase miners need to stop? So as Bitcoins get more expensive, people need to stop mining? Your point isn't exactly well thought out. Even if GPU miners aren't making profit, their mining does help the network.

There's more than one effect IYAM, and that's definitely one of them. I think a network with a 250 million difficulty is more valuable than a network with 1 million difficulty, that too makes the coins on the network more valuable.

That is also a good point as well. So difficulty does in some way affect price.

I didn't explain good because my English sucks. I will try to make it clear.

Bigger price can handle more difficulty. But if price is estable and difficulty keeps rising, at some point it will stop growing (unless they keep discovering new chips using less power) or people will start losing money.

But the opposite is not directly related. Bitcoin price doesn't go up because difficulty rises.
2308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New article: Price as a factor of difficulty on: June 14, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
I think btc price is not directly correlated with difficult, is the opposite.

Difficult needs to adjust to btc price, because less efficient miners need to shutdown their equipments.

You are technically correct, it is a new BLOCK that is generated every 10 minutes.

However, that doesn't change my conclusion:  The is very little correlation between price and difficulty.

Price is determined by the public agreeing on what they think a Bitcoin is worth - nothing else.

And what they think a Bitcoin is worth is partly determined by changes in the difficulty. Not totally, but partly.
I would agree.  As mining becomes more difficult with specialized mining equipment required, people will be more likely to buy instead of mine to acquire the BTC they want.

Yes, but also especialized mining companies need to sell all their huge earned bitcoin to keep growing the business. When you only have small home miners, they usually keep the btc for them, until the have a lot.
2309  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [12 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: June 14, 2013, 05:37:56 PM
Keep your namecoins, someday theyll be worth something.

I'm probably doing this.

Any place where I can check historical price of NMC?
2310  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: Los riesgos del análisis técnico on: June 14, 2013, 05:16:19 PM
Yo he entendido 4000$, pero vamos, lo que me ha quedado "mu" claro es el disgusto se ha llevado el pobre hombre.

Después de escucharlo otra vez confirmo que ha dicho "fifty hundred bucks" por lo que son $5,000 frescos en unos segundos Tongue
2311  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: Los riesgos del análisis técnico on: June 14, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
Por sus reacciones parece que está jugando a la ruleta  Grin

Creo haber entendido que la broma le ha costado 1,500$
2312  Economy / Securities / Re: Why are people buying asic mining shares? are they insane? on: June 14, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
I would counter that anyone selling Asicminer shares at the moment is insane. I bought in a few months ago and the share price has more than doubled. I don't see any reason why the share value shouldn't increase more. The thing most people are missing is that the shares never expire, so unless Bitcoin dies or Asicminer goes out of business, you will get paid the dividends until all coins have been mined which will definitely not be anytime in the near future.

I love AsicMiner, but @2.9btc I think it is overpriced. Thats 1,200,000 btc for the whole company!!
And bitcoin changes really fast, you don't know what is going to happen. This starts to remember me before the bitcoin crash at @266$ all the people was greedy like now and just speaking how rich they're going to be.
2313  Local / Mercadillo / Re: BitStore en España! >>Monedas Casascius, USB ASICMINER y mucho más<< on: June 14, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
Amigo una pregunta. ¿ Usted hace envios a Venezuela? ¿Cuanto cuesta si yo le encargo un USB AsicMiner?

Sí, creo que no habría problemas.

Por carta certificada urgente serían 10€ hasta 2 USB y 15€ hasta 12 USB.
2314  Economy / Auctions / Re: !!Reverse auction!! asicminer USB --Read OP-- on: June 14, 2013, 02:02:35 PM
For 7 units I can offer you exactly 2,35btc/each. Plus free UPS shipping.

I have them in stock, so I can send them instantly.
You can check my great trust Smiley If you want you can also use escrow.
2315  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: bfl upgrade 100$ 2 gh/s+5=7 gh/s on: June 14, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
Esto también incluye el envío express o eso va por separado?
2316  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: El dia que Satoshi Nakamoto Lanzo el Bitcoin on: June 14, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
Gracias por el aporte, no lo había leído!
2317  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Team ## SPANISH COINS ## en 50BTC.com on: June 14, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
Yo estoy bastante contento en Bitminter. Es tan sencillo que hasta mi mujer reinicia los mineros si alguno se ha apagado Tongue
2318  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [3] countdown! on: June 14, 2013, 01:29:35 PM
I got tired of waiting, finally I sold my Avalon B3.

I still feel a little bad because I sold before the update.

Good luck to all!
2319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin Win Nobel Prize? on: June 13, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
I thought this too and is another reason I believe satoshi nakamoto is dead. Why not claim his prize?

Because USA will follow and arrest/kill him. Is that not enough for you?
He needs to stay anonymous.
2320  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Bilderberg dicta sentencia: baja el pulgar a España on: June 13, 2013, 11:43:35 PM
Salir del Euro solo servira para mantener a la actual casta politico-empresarial, sus estructuras de poder y redes de enchufados y vividores, a costa de empobrecer via devaluacion al resto de la sociedad.

Esto es lo más importante. El Euro/Europa es lo único que mantiene la (poca) cordura en este país.
Volveríamos al enchufismo y el dinero bajo manga para poder conseguir algo.
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