Si la moneda cuesta 2.5 BTC pero solo lleva 1 BTC en su interior y el precio del BTC fuera de 10000€, habrás pagado 1,5 BTC o sea 15000€ por el acuñado y la plata.
Lo que quiero decir es que si el precio del BTC se dispara, jamás podrás recuperar en BTC lo que has pagado por ella por mucho que haya demanda de coleccionistas.
Las monedas son otro tipo de inversión diferente a sólo comprar bitcoins. Incluso en el supuesto caso de que los bitcoins valieran 10,000€, los bitcoins se habrían vuelto tan populares que habría muchísima demanda de monedas físicas y una oferta casi nula, ya que las tiradas de Casascius son muy limitadas. Por lo que dispararía su precio. Te puedo poner de ejemplo el más llamativo, las monedas de 1 BTC de 2011 con el error. Antes se vendían a 1.05btc si comprabas 100, y a 1.50 si sólo comprabas 1. Para esas fechas el precio del bitcoin era de $2/$3. Ahora en el 2013, tan sólo 2 años después!!, se venden entre 3.5/5btc a pesar de que el bitcoin cotiza entre $90/$100 Por lo que el precio de los bitcoins se ha multiplicado por más de 40x y el premium 3x. Según tu lógica esto no sería posible. Exactamente lo mismo ha pasado con el resto de monedas de Casascius (en unas más que en otras) a pesar de que el valor de los bitcoins en $ ha ido subiendo desde entonces. Además las monedas tienen un stop loss, ya que en caso de que bitcoin desapareciera, siempre conservarán su valor numismático, que fácilmente podría ser más elevado que lo que pagamos en € en su día, si se llegan a considerar como parte de la historia. Y por último no nos podemos olvidar que para los que realmente disfrutan de la numismática es un placer tener este tipo de monedas en la colección. Con ellas puedes dejar totalmente descolocado hasta al numismático más experto  |
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I was going to deposit some bitcoins in CoinLenders, but I saw you need to use inputs.io  I feel really lazy today for opening more accounts :/ Maybe another day! |
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10 USBs in stock. If you're interested PM me! Thanks for the nice photos ct1aic. I got the same white hub  |
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Me acaban de llegar más USBs, pero sólo me quedan últimas unidades. Interesados PM. Tienes idea del precio que las vas a poner? Saludos  Estoy esperando el palo de las aduanas. A ver que me dicen. Saludos! |
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En breve tendré las monedas de plata en stock. Interesados PM.
Saludos!
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AM market cap and the total number of bitcoins aren't as related as everyone seems to assume. The market determines the market cap based on what people are willing to pay for it to gain a certain return. Lets say after all 21 million bitcoins are generated, TX fees have somehow reached 25 BTC per block and AM holds 30% of the total hashrate. Each year, a single AM share would pay out .9985 BTC in dividends. If the market was willing to get a 1% return on AM, it cost 98.55 BTC per share and and the total market cap would be nearly 40 million BTC. I know this unreasonable, but I think it shows the market determines the market cap and there is no 21 million BTC hard limit. A better example may be 20% of the total hash rate, 10 BTC per block, and an accepted dividend yield of 5%. AM market cap would be about 2.1 million BTC. So, if there were 10 companies the size of AsicMiner at that time, then no one could buy all 10 companies at once because the combined market caps would be over 21 million. I've created a spreadsheet here that people can play with. It has two knobs for turning (AM hash rate, and Tx fees per block) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApG_UykyjHF0dEU2b1B5ZVZTeW5OY3NLTGRYTW9xM3c&usp=sharingEdit: Before people start screaming, I know some of these situations are VERY unrealistic. They are just meant to point out an example. It is impossible that 10 companies have 20% of the total hasrate at the same time So, second example is not good. But I get your point. |
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Lophie,
Based on tracking the AM price the last month, it seems buyers and holders of AM stock are now comfortable with a 25% dividend yield with some additives or subtractions for forward earnings potential.
With dividend around 0.024 holding steady, and a safe bet to expect going forward, this yield supports a fair valuation of 4.992 btc per share. Thats not too far away from where we are now.
If we use the average of the last 4 dividends (0.02275) to refine the estimates, fair valuation sits just above 4.7. Until the recent flash crash thats exactly where the share price has been
As AM continues to (hopefully) deliver higher dividends, and investor confidence grows thereby supporting lower acceptable dividend yields given the added feeling of security holding AM shares , we can expect this to support even higher share prices than what we're seeing now.
For now i personally value AM between 4.2-5btc per share. Anything below this range is a great buy, anything above is overvalued. If investor risk tolerance goes up and/or dividends hold at an average 0.03 (i consider this combination as a reasonable 'absolute best case scenario' without exuberance) i'd shift valuation to somewhere between 6-7 btc per share. Thats a solid 20-30% possible capital gain on current prices whilst generating a yield that will almost 'pay off' the total invested capital before the next block reward halving. Barring AM dropping the ball on keeping up with the competition or a severe depression in btc/usd i expect buying pressure to continue
I did exactly the same math, so we think exactly the same  |
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Las nuevas monedas de plata Casascius ya están en las aduanas de España, a ver que palo me meten  Cuando las tenga aquí en mano las pondré a la venta. ¡ Qué bien !, ¡ Ya puedo escribir !
Soy novato que te cagas, juas.
Me explayo más ahora, BitAddict trabaja muy bien y es un tío serio.
Hacer negocios en Internet me suele dar un poco de miedo, pero cuando te encuentras con gente así da gusto.
Un saludo más a todos.
Gracias! Me alegro que estés contento con tu USB. Sin duda es una muy buena forma de iniciarse y experimentar en el mundillo bitcoin. |
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Jumping ship from BTCTC to Havelock is ridiculous as they are in no better position with respect to Canadian exempt securities regulations ( National Instrument 45-106). Everyone panicking is throwing money away, which I'm sure is pleasing to the speculators among us. Stay calm, there really is no urgent need to do anything. don't tell people that, you'll make the price rise before my confirmations... 3 confirmations never went so slow... I missed the train Finally I got some cheap shares  |
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Looks incredible! Good luck selling it!
Maybe Goat is still interested in buying a great car.
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Jumping ship from BTCTC to Havelock is ridiculous as they are in no better position with respect to Canadian exempt securities regulations ( National Instrument 45-106). Everyone panicking is throwing money away, which I'm sure is pleasing to the speculators among us. Stay calm, there really is no urgent need to do anything. don't tell people that, you'll make the price rise before my confirmations... 3 confirmations never went so slow... I missed the train |
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I received mine today. Thanks so much smoothie! |
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Just spotted this... GF was updating the apps on her iPad and XE was among them. There must have been something triggered at an instinct level as I immediately saw 'Now with bitcoins!' as the update note Excellent news! Yes, that "Now with bitcoins!" is like buy now before is too late. Touché! |
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Great news! Thanks for sharing it |
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Acabo de leerlo. De momento solo son rumores pero tiene sentido, encaja perfectamente con la subida de dificultad. La última vez que bajaron el precio a 0.99 la dificultad estaba a 19M y ahora está en 31M. Eso sí, desde el anuncio hasta que pude comprar (teniendo en cuenta que estaba de los primeros en lista) pasó 1 mes. Espero que esta vez lo tengan más organizado. Lo de comprar USB a 0.1 se supone que para compensar a los que compraron a 0.99. De esta forma antiguos clientes pueden tener 2 USB por 1.09, o lo que es lo mismo a 0.55/unidad. Sin duda me parece una gran idea ya que beneficia a antiguos compradores y da tiempo a los revendedores para vender el stock comprado a 0.99. (Siempre hablando de precio de venta al comprar 50+ USB) De todas formas tened en cuenta que solo son rumores y que no hay nada confirmado. A ver que pasa! |
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Friedcat is a gentleman and a scholar.
A very silent one. Wise people only speak when they have something worthwile to say. Dumb people always talk talk talk. Friedcat works works works and finally speaks |
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Someone need to put a coin up for sale on eBay so we can see how much the 1st batch pure silver coins can fetch. I would guess $200+ for sure.
Probably just standard retail considering they're still available (correct me if I'm wrong on that though). Not really. You need to add like 10% fees paypal+ebay, another 5-10% for paying directly in cash and premium people is going to pay for not lurking on forums. |
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Recibo más unidades el martes/miércoles que viene. Acepto descuento de nuevo por comprar 5x y 10x unidades a la vez. El precio es el que veis en portada. Interesados PM o mail a bitaddict.sales@gmail.com |
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