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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: June 30, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
^ Alpha Tauri 25 upgrades lol Maybe each tire needs 3 upgrades each Wink

@YuginKadoya, nice posts and didn't know you had a favorite girl in Academy. I remember asking a few weeks ago why academy is full of females but then actual F1 isn't, did you get any new insight or news and stuff about the future for these academy females? I mean, there is no physical disadvantage in F1. It's mental and machine and yes fitness but not muscles and speed of running etc Smiley

I noticed 2 al Qubaisis in the list. Sisters?
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: June 30, 2023, 10:52:46 AM
Holy shit I just read the last page and didn't understand anything. It looks like arallmuus is a secret DOTA expert also, now I know if I ever promote back to BSFL in Division 1 to watch out for him.

I thought I will try to come in here and get some tips next time around since you all seem to know what you're talking about.

I saw mentioning about regions being tough, Indonesia is the toughest? Or where?
1303  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My hard experience with Bittrex, be aware of their validate request on: June 30, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
Sorry to tell you OP but it's fake support. Hope you now moved all funds to a new wallet.

You scammed yourself, really. How on earth do you expect that you reach the wrong Twitter support and not expect to get scammed? Twitter support is usually for contacting but you never resolve things there in DM. They even tell you about it (that they will never ask fr private info on social media).

Bittrex closed their operations months ago.

Bittrex US only. Bittrex Global, which is probably where OP is posting about, is still very much active.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 30, 2023, 06:42:25 AM
Yup, everything's a draw with me and my opponent, so all remaining sports is not really impactful in any way.

Great news about VAR, personally, I don't really mind and would not use it except in emergencies like if I accidentally submitted or if I suddenly can't remember if I wrote correct.

I should point out that I drew this round because I knew about de Minaur when I submitted with 1 hour left Smiley I think my opponent was one of the earliest to submit and had no way to know about de Minaur dropping out. So kudos to you leea, you "could" have won this round with VAR intervention Wink
1305  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun |20% RAKEBACK TO ALL|SLOTS|SPORTS BETTING|70% RAKEBACK RUSH HOUR on: June 29, 2023, 09:36:05 AM
Yes but that means they are giving back 70% of the expected amount they should be getting. In that logic, with 1%, if you gamble 1000 and lose 10 dollars, then you get 7 of it back, so they make 3 dollars on that one. That's 0.3% house edge, very very little if you ask me, definitely not really a sustainable thing for the casino.

Obviously there are people who gamble 1000 dollars and lose 100+ dollars, or they gamble that much and win 100+ dollars, that's a whole another topic, but as a casino they do not like individually to each player, and overall should be them making 1% from all of us combined, and with this it's no longer 1% but for them it's 0.3% and that's very little. With how much it costs to run a casino, they may not even profit even while making revenue.

It's rakeback, not lossback.

It doesn't matter if you lose or win, you will get that house edge back.

Anyway that's my discussion on house BJ, the lowest HE game there.

Most people gamble on roulette or even on slots, where the house edge is 4% or higher. Some slots I believe house edge is even 7% and if you play American roulette with extra "00" is 5.2%!

So in effect if you apply 70% rakeback to 7% house edge, you're reducing the house edge to 2.1%. That's a huge difference in a wagering target.

Also you never heard of 999dice before have you? Oldest dice site closed down few years back, only 0.1% house edge. Wanna guess whether they made profits or not? LEt's just say the owner retired because he got way too rich Tongue
1306  Economy / Gambling / Re: Livecasino.io - 🔥 up to 20% cashback🔥up to 20% rakeback 🚨 instant withdrawals on: June 29, 2023, 08:29:52 AM
Why about BJ ?

I tough BJ are the best and recommend to be played compared to other live-game, I avoided roulette but Blakcjak are really recommended for the live-casino game.

I just explained why. Funny you respond to a post explaining why, and then your own post doesn't explain the reason for you preferring BJ lol

Live Blackjack takes too long to settle for me, and I do like the sidebets and all but then it becomes very hard to place bets and rebet different amounts because live table options don't let you save preset bets. My lifelong wish is to have presets to use so you don't rush click every new round.

I guess I should say here that I play a lot of auto and speed roulette is the best for that.
1307  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: June 29, 2023, 07:08:42 AM
I'm a Messi supporter, I always thought he was for sure less arrogant than Ronaldo (since we end up comparing these guys all the time) but I'm super biased as a Barca fan.

In the end, I love all footballers who play with either talent, or hard work, or passion. All three make this a beautiful game.

@notblox1 I watched buways for a long time now and he for sure masks his ability by posting big odds games, but on the other hand, I tried his strategy this past few months and I hit some big ones despite myself thinking it was a bad idea, so it seems to work in French League. PSG gave a hell lot of money away Smiley

Anyway, want to share my latest freebet win from J-league. Freebet is won from BSFL.

I have another multibet but waiting for games to play.

Small win but at least covering losses from earlier Wink

1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 29, 2023, 06:03:53 AM
I hate you Fraaaancccee, I had selected 8 goals and under and according to the law of destiny, this should have been the correct outcome but French goals carried the whole average up and so now, it looks like I'm drawing with leea as that was the only answer left different in this round.

Another draw for me, but at least it is matched with 2 wins, so I don't feel so bad, in fact, I see many of you with points and I just have 2. I guess I should be lucky to get a draw from so few points.

Also, I hate you Tsitsipasssssss.
1309  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: deadsea33's "Complete the Word Game and Get Merits" on: June 29, 2023, 05:59:23 AM
What a fun game! Came here because I was mentioned, GL OP and all Smiley
1310  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 28, 2023, 11:50:07 AM
Usually I do more like 100 mbtc wager (claiming 200k sats).

Now I still have almost 6 mbtc in bonus waiting to be claimed. Slowly but surely Smiley

That is a good strategy to play only on promo periods and using only the last 2 top prize x4 and x5 RP for every 500 satoshi wagered,the more the amount we wager the better the amount of side benefits as it is a sure thing that with that house edge we will lose all of our balance sooner or later depending on the amount of our bet.

0.006 Bitcoin to be played here in the multiply game at x4 or x5 RP means you are going to get at least x10-x20 that amount wagered and that is 0.06 to 0.12 Bitcoin in wagered amount which gives you great great benefits.

Not sure what you mean "last 2 top prize x4" but I guess you mean only wagering during 4xRP and 5xRP? That's exactly how I play at FBC. TBF I also wager when I get the Flash Promo but I've only been able to claim it twice, speaking of which, I haven't seen it in a loooong time now despite wagering over 2 BTC since the last promo if I count correctly Tongue And still no Flash promo like before. Very sad Tongue

The thing for me is never really to wager to make a fixed profit, rather, to reach a fixed goal. The high HE is dangerous, so you should set a max loss. And get it all back from RP bonus, from cashback (I have a good rate now).

The lottery and Lambo tickets look pretty but they are practically too low to mean anything.
1311  Economy / Gambling / Re: Livecasino.io - 🔥 up to 20% cashback🔥up to 20% rakeback 🚨 instant withdrawals on: June 28, 2023, 10:09:52 AM
I’m surprised that Blackjack hunt is still available every weekends that gives 5USDT reward per 5 Blackjacks.

I don't normally play Blackjack live because it takes too long for my taste, live I don't mind Roulette, but that has to be speed roulette or I get really bored too lol

Anyway, has anyone tried out this promotion? The terms say February but weird thing is I never remembered seeing it there before, but it seems familiar to those of us on Bitcasino or Sportsbet, but a lower amount, usually I remember you need to get way more than 99 mbtc wager to get a ticket.

I never ever won more than the lowest prize hehe

https://livecasino.io/promotions/2023-01-09-99club
1312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Beginners Should Follow These To Be A Good Price Predictor on: June 28, 2023, 08:53:41 AM
No, disagree 100%

Crypto beginners shouldn't even learn about trading to start with, they should be looking more at awareness and education. Using crypto, where to use it, where to buy it, how to keep it secure.

And if you want to introduce crypto trading, first of all introduce them the Hard Facts. Which is that big big majority of crypto traders lose money.

Doesn't matter if professional or amateur, most people lose money. Even following all the tips, paying all the software and getting years of experience, majority still lose.

Teach this first, and then you save many souls from losing money in crypto Smiley
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 28, 2023, 07:49:55 AM
Tennis question, I have an edge now because it seems my opponent leea answered very early Wink and I can't blame him, I still saw Alex de Minaur news as if he was joining the tournament when I looked.

It's an advantage for me but I kind of agree with Harkorede, on these kinds of questions... are we trying to encourage everyone to submit answers late? Because I'm sure if the early guys who submitted early could see the news easily, they wouldn't answer Alex. I only knew because I read this thread Wink In sportsbetting, the bet is lost if the guy actually played and retired, but if he didn't even play, bet is void, right?

Snooker question is incoming for sure. I used to watch that sport a lot and I know more than enough to make a good question even if I don't follow current players that closely. Cricket is a big problem for us, it is very popular but it is also very hard sport to properly understand and we know nothing about it. Then there is also the fact that game lasts trough several days and usually collides with our deadlines.

Cricket is weird to understand, my whole family is into it, so I know a little about it, but it never really interested me even though all my cousins are into it, and all that.

I think secretly it's popular because it's family entertainment that you can leave on in the background like music, no need to pay attention to it all the time.

There are new format cricket tournaments that don't last days anymore, and you can focus on leagues like IPL, which officially tries to keep the format to max 3.5 hours (but generally each lasts around 4 hours). There are some cricket fans on Chat I remember, and maybe can even ask Steve who did the cricket 4-3-free promos. Those were very standard IPL based questions that can go on BSFL.

T20 is also around 4 hours and Europe qualifiers are next month. Same easy 4-3-free format.

Example would be like:
In the match between Team A and Team B, who wins. How many 4s scored. How many 6s scored.

Answer would be Team A, 30, 12

And it's pretty straightforward Google also shows the results easily (try google "t20 2022 results" and click Scorecard). You can answer, research past results, without knowing the game.
1314  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you dare to pawn your bitcoin? on: June 27, 2023, 11:04:16 AM
Interesting, but I would never trust a pawnshop in any case, but I definitely understand how it works and know that people in the past in my area used it a lot. Generally, they pawn items they never expect to get back anyway.

Pawn shops here only accept gold or expensive items with a resale value. I guess the problem is not so much people willing to pawn BTC but pawnshops willing to accept BTC volatility.

It could even be a gamble. Pawn 1 BTC for maybe 30% value now, and buy it back when BTC is super high? You end up making money Smiley
1315  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How does a whale sell its huge amount of bitcoins and change them into fiats? on: June 27, 2023, 09:50:39 AM
As some people mentioned above, whales just go through OTC. Less hassle, better rates, and bulk selling without even needing to go past anyone except the OTC, who usually does face to face KYC for big deals.

Also, I heard that whales who do use exchanges make sure they have a private deal first, and exchanges just make the exchange OTC anyway.

P2P seems legit before when you had Localbitcoins but I think now volume is very hard to meet whales demands.
1316  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 27, 2023, 08:32:12 AM
How about other members? Have you guys used your multiplier bonus and were successful to wager the 25x amount? I am also hesitating to use it over and over again because we have to spend equal amounts from our wallets too. That should be changed soon.  Tongue

It is a couple of days that this new look of the site is on.I have never managed to get that x25 with the bonus amount plus the amount played as it is very difficult to do so with a huge house edge like 5% that Freebitco.in has.The reason people still gamble and play a lot in the multiply btc game is because they are trying to increase their chances to get more tickets for the weekly lottery and more tickets for the lambo draw while also by wagering in that game to increase the number of reward points.

I don't suggest you gamble your money unless you are 100% OK if you lose it all as that will be the most likely scenario if you play multiply btc in the Freebitco.in site,you can do so if you want to get side bonuses like the ones mentioned above.

I always use the bonus on the RP promo periods, so like on the last weekend it was 5RP promo, I usually just like to do portions. This time I didn't have much time so I only claimed 50k sats.

I see it as more like x50 wager though (because it is x25 of bonus claimed + your equal amount). so if I claim 50k sats I have to wager 2.5m sats or 25 mbtc.

Usually I do more like 100 mbtc wager (claiming 200k sats).

Now I still have almost 6 mbtc in bonus waiting to be claimed. Slowly but surely Smiley
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 27, 2023, 06:51:52 AM
In case anyone thought I hated DOTA I totally don't. I kinda like the questions, really enjoyed them. I'm not even trying to put MMA vs DOTA and which is better or worse, cricket, should be in BSFL too agree but it is so hard to go for questions in cricket, but I should say, go for the easy to count scores, like "how many 4s or how many 6s".

No need to complicate cricket. Google gives you all those answers live, you will get 4s and 6s even if game is cancelled halfway or goes to draw. And that's for me also how I see how big a sport is, if Google covers it live, then it's worth it for them to do so, right? That means it can't be a fringe sport.

I mean if you google MMA you get way more news and stats, with live video sometimes unlike DOTA, where you need the experts to tell us even where to find the draw information, so I don't know which is the fringe sport (thanks for liquipedia but I didn't found it from Google at all).

@notblox1 I disagree DOTA gives Cro2 advantage, you know I suck at La Liga pool and I personally think that is my most comfortable league in terms of knowledge lol! Anyway I recall you are the MMA expert, how many big events per year are there? See if you can fulfill Trofo's explanation above about how to get a foolproof answer to a question. Right now, the easiest I can think of comes from MMA predictions and very easy to verify because Google tracks all the results of UFC, which is "How many of the fights on Main and Preliminary cards (you can even see this on the Google search tabs) go the distance"? Which means, it will reach Round 3 or 5 (the max). Cancelled fights don't count, but every other outcome doesn't matter, just whether it reaches last round or not.



slaman29,,, Time for me to revenge you for winning the freebet, here is a hint,,, I made only 1 small risk in the selections, of course according to my feelings Wink

You're on! Relegated guy versus promoted guy. You have a very hot form now, but let us see. GL Smiley

MMA is often a this or that question except they'll have to include the likes of knockout or winning strategy like UD and SD, but you should know that most of us including me isn't familiar with MMA, and would rather just follow the sportbook odds like I would do for Formula 1 as well.

Like NBA or tennis (this or that lol) except to include number of sets or games, MMA has many more combinations. I knew zero about it too until I played prediction contests from Sportsbet Smiley Actually I still know 1% about it but at least UD and SD like you said are familiar to me now.

That's why I appreciate BSFL a lot. Now I know DOTA. Now I know even a bit about NBA. Handball? F1? Amazing Smiley
1318  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun |20% RAKEBACK TO ALL|SLOTS|SPORTS BETTING|70% RAKEBACK RUSH HOUR on: June 26, 2023, 02:05:04 PM
@dimon nice catch on the imgur thing, I think about it and most of my past images post were imgur and probably if we go to post history it's all blank. Good thing the actual links still work it's just not displaying on gorum.

Don't worry about tracking bankroll. Just use the rush hour to wager what you need (either to win contest for bonus, and then later for the bonus itself). Consider the rakeback as a bonus. But don't "count" them before they hatch. Bad, bad gambling strategy, trust me I know lol

To answer questions above, as a regular daily player and investor: no, VIP is not active yet.

And 70% rakeback is active every day for 2 hours, from 9am to 11 am UTC (same as forum time). So no need to wonder and wait for the VIP or Elite seat cashback just play these 2 hours and you'll get a lot of your house edge back Smiley
Basically it's like a preview? Like what you would get if you wagered with VIP or Elite, you do that for the 2 hours in that case? I feel like that's a good deal. I think it is more about showing people what this casino can offer but I still say that it is not sustainable on the long run. When you cut down the house edge all that much, it becomes very hard to keep it going and that means we are not going to be able to do it easily.

I think it is a bit more troubling to think that something like this is even remotely possible, I believe it will take some time before people start losing money in bulk to make it profitable for the casino. If they keep doing %70, then it means you are going to end up with a big winner that ruins the casinos bankroll in the end.

They never said so, but I believe so. A preview of things to come, and an attraction for new players. For sure you can't get such a huge amount of rakeback anywhere every day for 2 hours. Definitely not sustainable so don't expect it to stay very long. Still, rakeback is not cashback, they're just giving you back the house edge. So if you play BJ like me it's not really that much if you don't wager a lot.

So BJ edge = 1%. Wager $1000 and that's just $10. Rake back at 70% means you get back $7. I think it's not as damaging as we think Smiley
1319  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better to have a trading knowledge than depending on signals. on: June 26, 2023, 12:05:00 PM
First of all, better to say what I've always said before, even before crypto, even when forex was new. Signals are not guarantee of profit. They CAN be useful if used together with strategy as a sort of alert to follow your strategy anyway.

Same thing for gambling, people sell all kinds of arbitrage tips and signals (like trading but with odds) and you won't make money if you blindly follow them.
Knowledge and strategies are certainly very useful in trading, as a trader can never be profitable if he only trade like gambling knowing nothing. Just like trading which greatly depends on signals, it can be profitable at some point especially if you are also knowledgeable and strategic at the same time, but trading relying on signals alone can never guarantee successful trading. The reason why a trader must be knowledgeable and skillful at first because that is a must when trading, otherwise we cannot expect trading to end up based on what we planned.

Half of your statement is repetitive but anyway, I have to sort of disagree with traders never being profitable if they gamble. A lot of traders gamble and became profitably in the bull run of 2017. That's why they thought they were good at it. They thought strategies worked, gambles work. But most people make money in a bull run, problem is not knowing when to stop and not understanding that they got lucky.

I think trading for commissions is the only true profit Tongue
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2022/2023 on: June 26, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
@Trofo I get it, somehow when I made the suggestion I forgot that not all the escrows are the same, even if it's Sportsbet sponsored, it was not necessarily Sportsbet who started the pool, rather, it was the actual organisers. Totally understand, so for now, I guess I'll stick to the agreement La Liga/Calcio with casper. As you said, way too early to discuss so we wait.

@Igebotz amazing deal indeed, I think Gundogan rather than Haaland was the main reason City won the title in the end, of course also Arsenal dropping huge points in a couple of weeks made it all theirs. I'm very happy with the buy, but like you asked, I also thought secretly we might steal Silva finally. At this stage, I'm more interested to find out if we managed to get out more debt though rather than the squad because I hate it hanging over us all season.
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