About "esports", I think the Oxford definition for sports must change also to fit in esports and chess and whatever other "Games" who want to be classified as sports":


My friends argue you need physical skill and effort to tap a keyboard, and to press the timer for chess, so I guess it counts


That's the spirit! We will become Norwich and Watford (for their back to EPL seasons not after that lol) and remind everyone we are a force to be considered

GL to us both!!

I would love to take even 100x on that bet, but no bookie will go for it, too bad we can't just make a multibet for every race until end of the season!

Ocon seems to be doing very well in practice again, very tempted to put him very near podium but with the unhappiness over the roads and as you say small chance for rain, maybe better to leave my picks alone.

I always seem to forget about this pool, must make more effort to remember it, especially us oldies right

No chance for me for prizes but I started well with Fiorentina, maybe a final yellow cap at least to end my terrible season!


Me too then, the more games the better, obviously, for fans and for us. I think this is the best rule of all, I prefer it to goal difference and H2H nonsense, I know it's one extra game but that should always be how to settle it, at the end of the season would be fine for most schedules anyway.

It was Ocon who surprised me most, I always thought of him as a below 7th guy, but you're right Stroll is also not meeting requirements enough I would say, one of the cases where it's driver and not car.

Ferrari still has to surprise us all I think also this season, but I'm waiting a few more races to see if I bring up support for them in my predictions.

It's funny that everyone thinks we have to wait for cars to perform, rather than to fail. Like, does anyone see RB failing?

Hehe thank you, I martingale after a certain time only. I think if you martingale on BJ you can last 10 hands and that's easy to find a losing streak. So for me it's kinda martingale but not really, this one was just to try something out. In the end I lost quite a bit as I mentioned

Winning daily is quite easy tbh, but the bonus money is a pain to wager.


I didn't track precisely but less than 30 minutes, so it was quite fast, considering the big amount. I know what you mean about being impatient, but it's something to deal with if you know withdrawal is manual.

So good to be back soon to this. I still feel very hurt from last season not being able to win a single game, so I need to make up for it in Season 2 now!

However, if everyone agrees with famososMuertos suggestion than I would have won a prize already to carry Slissy's bags to the stadium lol Too bad to make that happen someone has to deal with my internal travel issue, which is more difficult than money  

I like the idea of early submissions bonus too, like Superbru Early Bru points in F1. It rewards people who don't wait for qualification results. You can still submit "late" for a different advantage, but lose the bonus. It makes a lot of sense.

Now that Roma failed and became the miserable losers hehe (ok ok I know it was just Mourinho who even went to confront the referee in parking lot but anyway) it's soon time to see if Fiorentina will be able to get Italy's name on a European Cup, before Inter gets their chance.

West Ham consider themselves favorites, but losing to a crap Leicester also doesn't really boost anyone's confidence.

See you all in 5 days

Hey OP I know it's a month late to respond but I hope to give a different view of it.

Firstly, I had no idea they had bonds like that in UK but in Asia it is similar, you buy "lots" that you can redeem for your cash back but only after a certain period of years. No interest also, like you, but monthly cash prizes, cars, a grand prize is a house, etc. I never won anything except the small cash amounts but it's nothing:) The longer you don't redeem, the bigger you chance to win so I still wait.

For me this amount is always should be to be compared to the prices of things in your place. For example, for us, a nice meal can mean different things. A big meal at McDonalds for 2 is considered nice by most workers is just under $20 for local currency, and min salary in local currency is 1600. So you can see here, it is just above 1.25% of salary.

Which is about right for a nice meal.

Fancy meal at restaurant, for 2. Without drinks (fancy means wine which is 5x actual price), you will pay $100 for 2, or over 6% of salary.

So whenever I win anything, even in BTC, I use it to count against my salary. If it's only 1-2%, I treat my friends/family, always Weekend dinner. If it's more, it always goes to savings. And now you mention it, I add to the bank lots, who knows I win the house one day

Hey guys, how's everyone doing here?

Just wanted to say I took out a sizable withdraw yesterday in USDT, after several months of wagering, collecting all bonuses, free coins from chat rain and daily contests. Paid out easy with no issues.

The great thing is you can wager in BTC and all bonuses come in USDT, so it's very easy to separate bonus wins from actual money. BTC wise I ended up more or less same as starting, sometimes up sometimes down, you know how it goes

But USDT wise I got a nice profit, but I have to admit I got really lucky in the end on a few sessions, betting all-in on Blackjack and winning on bad hands.

Today I was unlucky, lost a few hundred dollars but that's how it goes

Interesting. Live is very difficult for me to do, I mean I add a lot of them to my multibets but it's straight match line bets, the problem is most day time sports is during my work, and when I'm free, internet is bad lol

This is the one I took today, prematch, it's dumb but I never tried before, let's see what happens with just a very small bet

Women's tennis tips anyone?

I like Mourinho in general, dislike his tactics in general, but this one I think was poor show of him. I didn't watch the match, but the match reports tells a big story of what happened, however it is, both Sevilla and Roma, players and coaches, are plenty of drama people lol

Deserve to lose or not, if you cannot accept a loss, you should retire.

VAR was right, rules are rules. I know not all refs call for it but with trophy on the line, it's fair.

Good win Sevilla, see you in Champions League... again!

1) Man City
2) Exactly
3) Under
4) Under
5) No
6) 1st
7) Yes
8 ) No
9) Yes
10) No
11) No
12) No
13) No
14) No
15) 2'

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Alonso
4. 3 seconds

I will be lucky to still be alive and healthy at that time, so I will be happy even if 10% of it comes true, (100 million), because that means my current BTC is enough to be a millionaire already lol.

But I guess it's not wrong to "hope" he is even 1% right (10 million), but I think gold, which is ATH now, and not as big in market cap, is probably the asset to beat. I bet gold is 10x as much in 2038?

This last year I am learning that if I bet on tennis, I did well live, almost every second time I make prematch I lose. I'm switching my betting in football to try big underdog and it seems a little success there, but never try for tennis, in my mind it's much harder to comeback but yes, horrible start for me, I don't even want to talk about Medvedev.


If I remember it was 11x on that newbie player, who will be the most famous guy in his town after this, even if he loses next match (which I bet he will).

I feel like I have to start trying to bet more like buwaytress, it seems very successful but I don't know if he does it only for football.

Holy moly camoly guys the final is today! I didn't even realize it I felt like it was supposed to be in June like CL but then I saw the news headlines and it's on.

Sevilla and Roma, and the sportsbooks are all like us, can't decide who is better, however Sevilla has slightly smaller odds but very very slight.

I want Roma for a nice story who won Conference last year, if they win Europa it will be like promotion via cups.

But this is Sevilla playground, so they will win, either by outright or PK.

Granada played quite well in the times they were up, for the games I saw in that season if I can recall properly, they were even top of La Liga for a very brief time early on (how to forget they beat us when Messi was still here).

This was seen as the start of Barca's decline, and of Spanish football in general and that was also a few years after Leicester and then Lille in France, and Atletico later, it all made so everyone was dreaming of revolucion in Europe but it's 2023 and Barca won, City, won, Bayern won, PSG won, business as usual lol

@Trofo yeah actually now you mentioned it I think I got loads of freebets in total, but I didn't count how much from yellow cap, for sure I don't think I won any, but won some of the other nonpool freebets, but all in all, I think I deposited a few times and didn't withdraw, (I checked tx history I only withdrew to pay for pool fees lol). So it's probably my worst season in many years. Which is weird because Barca did well, I think I lost mainly because of extreme bad results in World Cup (Spain, and then I remember Argentina terrible decicion to put all on their first game) and Champions League.

The longer the better for me personally. Normally La Liga and French league are my options but final week few games left to be important even if there was many, so I can only think of cup finals to bet on.

RG bit me badly already I can't believe it, Bet prematch on Thiem, and he actually managed to get back 2-2 after losing first 2, then lost anyway.

Ouf I can't believe I forgot to check this thread, is it too late to post bets on the Super Sunday games and rounds thread? I would have posted some multibet that lost (thanks to Manchester City!!). Anyway, next time for sure




Phew, that is almost 10x my failed multibet. I knew they had nothing to play for but I still thought they would sign off their season with a win.

I got the freebet insurance but unfortunately I also picked a losing favorite

Espanyol don't deserve to go down, if we forget the points they dropped. I will kind of miss them though, Catalan derby is usually great highlights no matter what, if we ignore how bad they were hehe. But they came right back up after last relegation, so I guess expect to see them again.

Elche, I know right?

Anyway, I think 10 points between me and 5th spot is impossible to break for next and final round. Well done KTChampions

At least I got prize from 1 pool. But it was only enough to cover fees for that pol lol

Bring on next season!!