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Interesting project, will be interested to see what speeds you can get out of it.
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Kano, thanks for the reply. Any chance you can tell us what that email to KnCMiner was all about?
Yes I can, but at this point I wont. I don't blame you, I think the question was pushy/out of line. |
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Right but we are talking price comparison for what you can order now. By your assumption bit fury can lower too.
I would imagine the people that have paid 19k and not received their units yet would be pretty pissed off seeing the Oct price down to less than half of what they paid. Obviously Bitfury responded to KNCminer's pricing, let's see what BFL and Avalon do. |
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You are comparing something you will get this month with something you will get 4 months from now? Either way August orders are sold out. I'm talking about the October 400 I am interested in whats actually been sold and delivered, not what's months off still. October is a long way off, you don't know what BFL's price will be then. It certainly wont be what it's August price is if they want to remain in the game. |
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Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week. Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.
I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.
Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL. You will be hard pressed to make a decent ROI so late into the game at that price. |
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That is just BFL's reality distortion field a la Steve Jobs.
My order is not shipping. Someone elses order is shipping from June 2012. My order is now per commercial rules and definitions a FUCKING BACKORDER.
Gimme my monies back scammers.
Just for the record, Steve Jobs delivered on time. When the first iPad was launched, they took pre-orders via the online Apple store several weeks before the launch date, when the date came around a courier turned up at my door 10am that day with the iPad, he said he felt like Santa with all the smiles he got. That's what I call a pre-order! |
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The WDC and DGC blocks in question have been paid out. All of the MNC blocks except 1 had already been paid but were not removed from unconfirmed due to a bug I had fixed a while back.
Thanks for that. |
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final any news about knc chips? will be production these month or not?  ? is august There has never been a mention of August production to my knowledge. |
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Too many assumptions in here... as usual.
Most of the posts here are from trolls, the real people interested in KNCminer are mainly reading not posting. Same with the Avalon and BFL threads. Thanks for that. If it wasn't for the people posting, you'd have no reason to come here. KNC posts the information you need on their news section. Yeah, and who started the thread pray tell? It was KNC and they have done like 50 posts. |
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There seems to be something strange going on where the unconfirmed balance is not moving to the confirmed balance unless you are mining that coin, regardless of the fact that blocks are being discovered by others mining the coin on the pool.
I assure you the payment scripts do not know who is mining what coin at any time, other than calculating shares. Some coins are slow to confirm when we're not on them due to having no additional hashrate to find blocks. DGC has been showing .3977 blocks unconfirmed for several days, when it gets mined the unconfirmed goes up, then back down to .3977 blocks. |
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Suggestion: it would be nice if I could withdraw my novacoins at 0.25NVC not 1NVC. Takes forever for me to get to 1 NVC and who knows what its value might be by then. Is it possible to lower the min. w/d on NVC to < 1 ?
For free, no. Novacoin transactions require a fee of at least 0.01 NVC / kB, so being able to withdraw 1.0 NVC without paying a fee is already amazing for a 0% fee pool. I would welcome this as a paid feature though, e.g., pay x NVC per withdrawal is the amount is below 1.0 (or allow withdrawals of smaller amounts as a perk of some donation level). NVC's exchange rate is quite unstable; there's times when paying 0.01 NVC to withdraw 0.1 NVC would make sense. Same goes for LTC, |
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Too many assumptions in here... as usual.
Most of the posts here are from trolls, the real people interested in KNCminer are mainly reading not posting. Same with the Avalon and BFL threads. |
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Currently the only difference between Avalon and BFL is Avalon does not tell us something is going to happen and it doesn't and they don't tell us to "fucking get a clue"
Otherwise they are equal in poor communication, poor customer service, poor delivery time frames, over promising and under-delivering.
I actually see that as a positive for BFL to know that at least one of their execs is on the ground reading forums, knowing what the market thinks, even if he does go over the top with abuse from time to time, it's better than sitting in an ivory tower totally out of touch with the user base. |
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There seems to be something strange going on where the unconfirmed balance is not moving to the confirmed balance unless you are mining that coin, regardless of the fact that blocks are being discovered by others mining the coin on the pool.
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Cryptsy started asking me for all these personal security info and questions today, so I pulled my coins out. Don't like the sound of that.
So this came up quite a bit today. The reason for security questions is owner validation. We have users losing access to their original signup email. So in order to validate them we need another method. Just like any site that asks personal security questions you can make the answer anything you wish. Just know the answer! So question like Whats your mothers maiden name you can put 67890%^&*(1223 that's fine but know the answer. So if you do lose your email access permanently which until recently I myself didn't think was a real thing but some people do. We have a way to validate your the owner and give you access to your coins by changing your email. Seems smart to me -- I really don't see a disadvantage here. Our accounts are used for transferring, trading, and sometimes even storing valuable virtual currencies -- I have no problem going through a few extra steps to verify my identity if it means my investments are safer. I had an incident once where I lost my phone (slipped out of the pocket in a new pair of slacks)...which was linked to my email. The person who found the phone reset my passwords for various websites and confirmed the resets via my Email...which they now had access to. If there had been an additional security question on the sites in question, there's a chance it would have never happened. I was tipped off when I checked my deleted Email and saw the "reset password" emails in there (the idiot never deleted the trace) -- I got everything straightened out quickly and eventually even got my phone back...but securing and modifying the compromised websites was the biggest hassle out of everything. There are lots of ways to do security that don't involve giving out personal information. This isn't one of them. |
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Lesson learned: Never do business with an Asic manufacturer / miner assembler that has an open unending ordersheet. Not saying it won't rule out foul play but at least it shows a level of responsibility.
As someone else pointed out before (can't remember who but iwon't take credit for it) Yes they are shipping an undeniable truth but anyone placing new orders is buying a heavily back-ordered product. Seeing that it is backordered product than not refunding clients is utter BS. Josh has always said (someone find his quote as I'm too lazy to muck through months of mindless drivel from the guy) that BFL does not spend the order money until the item is produced or something along that line.
Well if you haven't spent it then give it the fuck back. Even if you did give it back anyways. It's the right thing to do not that good morals have anything to do with this company's management.
Most BFL products are around $50 per GH/s, that's no longer competitive, the market is offering $20 per GH/s elsewhere, so BFL wont have an open ended order book at their old price if people have to wait months for delivery. In the near future, the order book is just going to move to whichever ASIC vendor, has the shortest delivery time. |
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WTF? BFL has SOOOO many orders... they're still shipping orders from the middle of 2012. Anyone who puts an order through the door at this point is almost certainly going to lose money, and even if BFL manages to get their current backorders out the door by the end of September;forget August; and new orders out the door shortly after, you're still looking at almost no upside, even if you manage to get back to even. And the people who placed orders in BTC in 2012 are never going to even come close to making back their money relative to just holding BTC during that time.
There are many things that could change, the next wafer run could be more power efficient, BFL could decide to reduce it's price to improve ROI/sales. You can't tell what's going to happen. |
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Cryptsy started asking me for all these personal security info and questions today, so I pulled my coins out. Don't like the sound of that.
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Thursday, August 1, 2013 Shipping Update
by
BFL_Jody
08-02-2013 at 02:08 PM
Jalapenos: none shipped today
Little Singles: we shipped through July 23, 2012
Singles: All shipped through June 26, 2012 and into June 27, 2012
MiniRigs: Biggest shipment so far. Still from June 23 orders
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/ |
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