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March 23, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
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For her masters yes she is.

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March 23, 2016, 06:11:29 PM
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Hillary Clinton is the most dishonest person on the planet, followed by her husband, Bill, who is the second most dishonest person on the planet
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March 23, 2016, 07:13:12 PM
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WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks  10h10 hours ago
Hillary rejected Qaddafi plan to democratise #Libya; instead bombed it into an ISIS swamp
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/10115#efmBESCAL
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Holy crap lol.

Thank god for sources like wikileaks, it helps to see a huge transparency among those who are in power with that they do.

I guess if you have enough green, youre a friend hilarys.

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March 28, 2016, 06:46:47 AM
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Clinton email probe enters new phase as FBI interviews loom




Federal prosecutors investigating the possible mishandling of classified materials on Hillary Clinton’s private email server have begun the process of setting up formal interviews with some of her longtime and closest aides, according to two people familiar with the probe, an indication that the inquiry is moving into its final phases.

Those interviews and the final review of the case, however, could still take many weeks, all but guaranteeing that the investigation will continue to dog Clinton’s presidential campaign through most, if not all, of the remaining presidential primaries.

No dates have been set for questioning the advisors, but a federal prosecutor in recent weeks has called their lawyers to alert them that he would soon be doing so, the sources said. Prosecutors also are expected to seek an interview with Clinton herself, though the timing remains unclear.


The interviews by FBI agents and prosecutors will play a significant role in helping them better understand whether Clinton or her aides knowingly or negligently discussed classified government secrets over a non-secure email system when she served as secretary of State.

The meetings also are an indication that much of the investigators' background work – recovering deleted emails, understanding how the server operated and determining whether it was breached – is nearing completion.

“The interviews are critical to understand the volume of information they have accumulated,” said James McJunkin, former head of the FBI's Washington field office.  “They are likely nearing the end of the investigation and the agents need to interview these people to put the information in context. They will then spend time aligning these statements with other information, emails, classified documents, etc., to determine whether there is a prosecutable case."

Many legal experts believe that Clinton faces little risk of being prosecuted for using the private email system to conduct official business when she served as secretary of State, though that decision has raised questions among some about her judgment. They noted that using a private email system was not banned at the time, and others in government had used personal email to transact official business.

The bigger question is whether she or her aides distributed classified material in email systems that fell outside of the department’s secure classified system. But even if prosecutors determine that she did, chances she will be found criminally liable are low. U.S. law makes it a crime for someone to knowingly or willfully retain classified information, handle it in a grossly negligent manner or to pass it to someone not entitled to see it.

Clinton has denied using the email account to send or receive materials marked classified. Though some emails have since been deemed to be too sensitive to release publicly, Clinton's campaign has attributed that to overzealous intelligence officials and "over-classification run amok."

Legally it doesn’t matter if the emails were marked as classified or not, since government officials are obligated to recognize sensitive material and guard against its release. But legal experts noted that such labels would be helpful to prosecutors seeking to prove she knew the information was classified, a key element of the law.

“The facts of the case do not fit the law,” said Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at American University. “Reasonable folks may think that federal law ought to prohibit what Hillary did, but it’s just not clear to me that it currently does.”

Even so, her use of the private server, which was based at her home in New York, has become fodder for Clinton’s political foes as she campaigns to secure the Democratic nomination for president.

Though Sen. Bernie Sanders has largely declined to use the email scandal against her in the Democratic primary, Republicans have repeatedly said she should be indicted or disqualified from running for the nation's top office.

 At a recent Democratic debate, Clinton grew exasperated when asked what she would do if indicted. “That’s not going to happen,” she said.

Her attorney, David Kendall, declined to comment. Her campaign spokesman, Brian Fallon, said in an email that Clinton is ready to work with investigators to conclude the investigation.

“She first offered last August to meet and answer any questions they might have,” Fallon wrote. “She would welcome the opportunity to help them complete their work.”

Lawyers for her closest aides – Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan, Cheryl Mills and Philippe Renes – either did not respond to messages or declined to comment.

The Justice Department and FBI began their investigation after receiving what is known as a security referral in July from the inspector general for U.S. intelligence agencies, which at the time were in the midst of reviewing paper copies of nearly 30,500 emails Clinton turned over in 2014 that she said were work-related.

The State Department has since released all 3,871 pages of Clinton’s emails in its possession and has determined that 22 of her emails contained "top secret" information, though they were not marked as such as the time. Hundreds of others contained material that was either secret or confidential, two lower levels of classification.

After stepping down as secretary of State, Clinton, who has said she used her personal email to conduct personal and official business as a matter of convenience, told her staff to delete 31,830 emails on the server that she felt were non-work-related.

In August, the FBI obtained the server and has since recovered most, if not all, of the deleted correspondence, said a person familiar with the investigation.

FBI agents have finished their review of the server and the correspondence turned over by Clinton to the State Department. They have interviewed a number of former aides so they could better understand how the system was used and why Clinton chose to use it, the person said.

Federal prosecutors granted immunity to one of those aides, Bryan Pagliano, who helped set up the server in Clinton’s home. He has cooperated with the federal investigation and provided security logs that revealed no evidence of foreign hacking, according to a law enforcement official.

His lawyer, Mark MacDougall, did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The probe is being closely watched and supervised by the Justice Department’s top officials and prosecutors. FBI Director James B. Comey has said he has been regularly briefed on the investigation, which is being overseen by prosecutors in the Justice Department’s national security division.

The decision on whether to prosecute could be difficult. Vladeck, the law professor noted the differences between Clinton’s email issue and two previous cases involving the mishandling of classified material that resulted in prosecutions and guilty pleas.

In 2005, Sandy Berger, a former national security advisor, pleaded guilty to the unlawful removal and retention of national security information after being caught trying to smuggle classified documents out of the National Archives.

In another case, Gen. David Petraeus, a former CIA director, was investigated for knowingly allowing a mistress to read classified material as she researched a book about him. Petraeus eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified material and was spared prison time.

Legal experts said Petraeus’ actions were far more serious than anything Clinton is accused of doing. Clinton’s emails, even those later deemed classified, were sent to aides cleared to read them, for example, and not private citizens, they said.

Several of the lawyers involved in Clinton’s case are familiar with the differences. Petraeus’ defense lawyer was Kendall, who also represents Clinton. And a prosecutor helping oversee the Clinton email investigation was part of the team that obtained Petraeus’ guilty plea.


“Those cases are just so different from what Clinton is accused of doing,” Vladeck said. “And the Justice Department lawyers know it.”

While she is not likely to face legal jeopardy, the emails could cause some political heartburn when the aides are questioned. However, short of an indictment or an explosive revelation, the controversy is not likely to alter the overall dynamics of the primary race or general election, political observers said.

"This is clearly disruptive to the campaign,” said Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster. “It will take her off message and coverage about important aides being questioned is not coverage you'd like to have. However, this issue is largely dismissed by Democratic primary voters and baked into the cake for the general electorate.”



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March 28, 2016, 07:00:23 AM
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“The facts of the case do not fit the law,” said Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at American University. “Reasonable folks may think that federal law ought to prohibit what Hillary did, but it’s just not clear to me that it currently does."

Sounds like a very mysterious case. The facts do not fit the law? Maybe the law is wrong?


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March 28, 2016, 02:33:53 PM
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“The facts of the case do not fit the law,” said Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at American University. “Reasonable folks may think that federal law ought to prohibit what Hillary did, but it’s just not clear to me that it currently does."

Sounds like a very mysterious case. The facts do not fit the law? Maybe the law is wrong?




The clinton machine is never wrong.


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March 28, 2016, 03:49:01 PM
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One hundred forty-seven FBI agents have been deployed to run down leads, according to a lawmaker briefed by FBI Director James B. Comey.




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On Feb. 17, 2009, less than a month into Clinton’s tenure, the issue came to a head. Department security, intelligence and technology specialists, along with five officials from the National Security Agency, gathered in a Mahogany Row conference room. They explained the risks to Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s chief of staff, while also seeking “mitigation options” that would accommodate Clinton’s wishes.

“The issue here is one of personal comfort,” one of the participants in that meeting, Donald Reid, the department’s senior coordinator for security infrastructure, wrote afterward in an email that described Clinton’s inner circle of advisers as “dedicated [BlackBerry] addicts.”

Clinton used her BlackBerry as the group continued looking for a solution. But unknown to diplomatic security and technology officials at the department, there was another looming communications vulnerability: Clinton’s Black­Berry was digitally tethered to a private email server in the basement of her family home, some 260 miles to the north in Chappaqua, N.Y., documents and interviews show.

Those officials took no steps to protect the server against intruders and spies, because they apparently were not told about it.

[...]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html


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March 28, 2016, 06:48:21 PM
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She is a politician I dont believe her.Someone once called her a "congenital liar" and that fits.
For example, if you need to trust her to cover up Bill Clinton's rapes including visits to an underage sex slave island, then I think it's safe to say she can be trusted to do everything in her power to cover things like that up. So can the media.
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March 28, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
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those people who would vote for Hillary do not possess those qualities and do not care whether she is honest or trustworthy......in fact, her LACK of those qualities are resume enhancers for a democrat.
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March 28, 2016, 07:40:39 PM
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those people who would vote for Hillary do not possess those qualities and do not care whether she is honest or trustworthy......in fact, her LACK of those qualities are resume enhancers for a democrat.


Most people are just mis informed.

And if they were informed with these facts like the wikileaks scenario that pointed out, then most people would be in disgust.

So its a matter and spreading those facts to help their decisions in this ridiculous presidential role.
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March 29, 2016, 02:08:18 AM
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I guess you should ask: Is any of the candidates trustworthy? I would say NO, but then again there's Trump. Around him everyone but him is trustworthy.
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March 29, 2016, 09:29:15 AM
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I guess you should ask: Is any of the candidates trustworthy? I would say NO, but then again there's Trump. Around him everyone but him is trustworthy.

Your initial quote is the right statement. But indicating trump as a trusty person is really sad to know. He doesn't know what to be done to make him trustworthy.
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March 29, 2016, 11:37:33 AM
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I guess you should ask: Is any of the candidates trustworthy? I would say NO, but then again there's Trump. Around him everyone but him is trustworthy.

Your initial quote is the right statement. But indicating trump as a trusty person is really sad to know. He doesn't know what to be done to make him trustworthy.

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You still havent answered this question.
I would really like to see your positive points, if of course you can think of any.
Don't be shy now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026037.msg14247827#msg14247827

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March 29, 2016, 02:09:12 PM
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I guess you should ask: Is any of the candidates trustworthy? I would say NO, but then again there's Trump. Around him everyone but him is trustworthy.

Your initial quote is the right statement. But indicating trump as a trusty person is really sad to know. He doesn't know what to be done to make him trustworthy.

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You still havent answered this question.
I would really like to see your positive points, if of course you can think of any.
Don't be shy now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026037.msg14247827#msg14247827

You know most politicians could not make it in business, they are so used to lying and cheating.  Business demands simply doing services for a fair price and doing it reliably.  Because of that I believe that basic, simple promises that Trump makes are more trustable than those made by an average politician.

Does that sound reasonable?
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March 29, 2016, 03:01:43 PM
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5 things people love about clinton that make them excited to vote for her

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March 29, 2016, 03:34:24 PM
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Hillary Clinton ‘had several abortions’, kept Chelsea for political appearances… says Bill’s former lover














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Harpy clinton: Woman, wife and mother of the year...


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March 29, 2016, 03:42:01 PM
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5 things people love about clinton that make them excited to vote for her


1) brown people love her
2) black people love her
3) southern hillbillies love her
4) homosexuals love her
5) women love her
6) warmongers love her

Anyone that redneck chocolate swirl loving lesbian feminist murderers support is good enough for me.

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March 30, 2016, 03:43:17 PM
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This could be one of the dumber things Hillary Clinton has ever said

Twitchy  by Greg Pollowitz 3:19 pm

We’re not sure this is the best route for Hillary Clinton to take while trying to attack Donald Trump, especially with FBI agents reportedly getting set to interview her staff’s actions regarding her homebrew email server. But, alas, self-awareness never was her thing:

Hillary Clinton says Donald Trump is responsible for his staff's actions: https://t.co/troowMAacq

— Capital Journal (@WSJPolitics) March 30, 2016

She really doesn’t see where this is going, does she?

@WSJPolitics So that means Hillary is completely responsible for her illegal e-mail server?

— LetItBurnUSA (@LetItBurnUSA) March 30, 2016

Exactly. Let’s save this tweet just in case we need to remind her of what she said in the very near future:

Clip and save this for when she throws staff under the bus for her server https://t.co/jQr6s0LCxo

— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahNRO) March 30, 2016

I wonder if Hillary really thought through this statement carefully… https://t.co/yXF9txNr8I

— Michael Q Sullivan (@MQSullivan) March 30, 2016

@WSJPolitics Good Then she will take responsibility for Mills, Sullivan, Abedin and her own crimes endangering nat'l sec #ClintonEmail

— Kim Seefeld (@KAS_SB) March 30, 2016

@WSJPolitics this is a saver. #tcot

— Bill Baar (@BillBaar) March 30, 2016

@WSJPolitics oh I can't wait till this comes back to haunt her!!

— Rebellious Mom (@jenladkins) March 30, 2016

And what about Bill’s behavior?

@WSJPolitics Any mention of responsibility for Bill's actions?

— Momo be tweet'n (@mcg0958) March 30, 2016

@WSJPolitics and who is responsible for her husband's actions or her email action or her Benghazi actions or her …..

— John Woods (@redeyebrody) March 30, 2016

Based on her record, this is the more likely response:

Politicians shouldn't blame staff for failings. They should blame a YouTube video, then try to walk it back later. https://t.co/jVvDPls4Ff

— Logan Dobson (@LoganDobson) March 30, 2016

You just now that’s coming.

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March 30, 2016, 11:05:19 PM
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I'm a libertarian. I lean more right. I have watched every debate for the dems and the gop. They are getting boring we've seen so many. But I agree with joedrache, Hillary is conniving and she has certainly veered further to the left than I think even she expected to veer. She has Bernie to thank for this. I believe she is sneaky and that she knew from the moment she appointed Pagliano to the the IT department at State that she knew she was attempting to skirt the rules with regard to technology. He was her inside man. Just for the record, I watch the five on fox but that is pretty much all. I watch Chris Matthews cause I find him ridiculous and entertaining at the same time. I read the Wall Street journal. Today I read some articles from Mother Jones to which I made a comment. I'm all over the map. I voted for Rubio, but have liked Kasich from the beginning. but he has little chance to win. And because my taste in news outlets is varied I can say that Fox isn't anymore biased than any of the others. I tread Catherine Herridge's articles and she is very thorough and most often accurate. She has published many breaking articles that have turned out to be accurate.
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March 31, 2016, 04:14:52 AM
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How is this even a discussion?

Of course Hillary is not trustworthy. If you think so, you desperatly need some education.
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