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September 28, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
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No politician is absolutely trustworthy, no doubt about that. However, if it comes to choosing one of them to become president you should  keep in mind that that person will be regarded as the face of your country by the outside world. I like to go around in my flat wearing just underpants because they are convenient and "trustworthy", but when I go outside I wear a suit.


The world does not care about the US. The "world" cares about its own self interests but wants to look smart, wearing cheap suits made in Bangladesh by little children...


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September 28, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
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Yes, I think she is trustworthy.



"It’s totally ridiculous. It never crossed my mind."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=pcN1NdRMsgc




Aw be nice.  We may have found the LAST Hillary Supporter.
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September 28, 2015, 07:43:36 PM
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Hillary Supporters All Have A Suspiciously Identical Feelings About Her ‘Meet The Press’ Interview


In a massive coincidence, every single Hillary Clinton staffer and surrogate who watched the Democratic presidential candidate’s Meet the Press interview had the exact same thoughts, sometimes using identical language.

Now at first, it may appear that these responses were all coordinated in some fashion. However, it would be against the law for campaign officials to coordinate with a pro-Clinton Super PAC director like Brad Woodhouse. So clearly it’s a coincidence that his tweet was identical to Clinton staffer Karen Finney’s.




http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-supporters-all-have-suspiciously-identical-feelings-about-meet-the-press-interview/


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September 28, 2015, 07:44:07 PM
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I dont trust any clintons or bushs
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September 28, 2015, 08:24:35 PM
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NBC Files Copyright Claims Against All Videos Of Hillary Clinton On ‘Meet The Press’




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OymVU9LME


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September 29, 2015, 02:49:42 AM
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Yes, Hillary Clinton broke the law





Since there has been much evasion and obfuscation about Hillary Rodham Clinton’s email use, it seems appropriate to step back and simply review what we know in light of the law. It’s also instructive to compare Clinton’s situation to arguably the most famous case of our time related to the improper handling of classified materials, namely, the case of Gen. David Petraeus.

Instead of turning his journals — so-called “black books” — over to the Defense Department or CIA when he left either of those organizations, Petraeus kept them at his home — an unsecure location — and provided them to his paramour/biographer, Paula Broadwell, at another private residence. (None of the classified information in the black books was used in his biography.)

On April 23, Petraeus pled guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials under 18 USC §1924. Many in the intelligence community were outraged at the perceived “slap on the wrist” he received, at a time when the Justice Department was seeking very strong penalties against lesser officials for leaks to the media.

According to the law, there are five elements that must be met for a violation of the statute, and they can all be found in section (a) of the statute: “(1) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, (2) by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, (3) knowingly removes such documents or materials (4) without authority and (5) with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location [shall be guilty of this offense].”

The Petraeus case meets those conditions. Does Clinton’s?

Clinton originally denied that any of her emails contained classified information, but soon abandoned that claim. So far, 150 emails containing classified information have been identified on her server, including two that included information determined to be Top Secret.

She then fell back on the claim that none of the emails in question was “marked classified” at the time she was dealing with them. The marking is not what makes the material classified; it’s the nature of the information itself. As secretary of state, Clinton knew this, and in fact she would have been re-briefed annually on this point as a condition of maintaining her clearance to access classified information.

Then there’s location. Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).

Two examples demonstrate this point.

When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location — for both storage and transfer.

Additionally, when Clinton moved the server to Platte River Networks (a private company) in June 2013, and then again when she transferred the contents of the server to her private lawyers in 2014, the classified materials were in each instance again removed to another unsecured location.

Next we have the lack of proper authority to move or hold classified information somewhere, i.e., the “unauthorized location.”

While it’s possible for a private residence to be an “authorized” location, and it’s also possible for non-government servers and networks to be “authorized” to house and transfer classified materials, there are specific and stringent requirements to achieve such status. Simply being secretary of state didn’t allow Clinton to authorize herself to deviate from the requirements of retaining and transmitting classified documents, materials and information.

There is no known evidence that her arrangement to use the private email server in her home was undertaken with proper authority.
Finally, there’s the intent to “retain” the classified documents or materials at an unauthorized location.

The very purpose of Clinton’s server was to intentionally retain documents and materials — all emails and attachments — on the server in her house, including classified materials.

The intent required is only to undertake the action, i.e., to retain the classified documents and materials in the unauthorized fashion addressed in this statute. That’s it.

It borders on inconceivable that Clinton didn’t know that the emails she received, and more obviously, the emails that she created, stored and sent with the server, would contain classified information.

Simply put, Mrs. Clinton is already in just as bad — or worse — of a legal situation than Petraeus faced.

Does this mean she’ll be charged? FBI Director James Comey has a long history of ignoring political pressure. So it’s likely that the FBI will recommend prosecution, and then it will be up to President Obama’s Justice Department to decide whether to proceed. Stay tuned.



http://nypost.com/2015/09/27/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-the-law/


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September 29, 2015, 06:27:56 PM
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Yes, I think she is trustworthy.





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September 30, 2015, 04:03:11 PM
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Donna Shalala, President of Clinton Foundation, Has Stroke


Donna Shalala, the former president of the University of Miami who was brought in to lead the Clinton Foundation this year, had a stroke shortly after the closing ceremonies of the organization’s major fall event early Tuesday evening, officials said.

Ms. Shalala, 74, fell ill after departing the closing events around the Clinton Global Initiative, which was held at the Sheraton New York hotel on Seventh Avenue in Manhattan, according to a statement from foundation officials.

An email from former President Bill Clinton and his daughter, Chelsea, who is the vice chairwoman of the foundation and a major force in running the organization, was sent to the staff late in evening.

“As some of you may have heard, Donna suffered a stroke this evening after CGI,” the email read. “Fortunately, she was with colleagues at the time and taken to the hospital for treatment. Initial reports are very encouraging.” They added, “We will continue to share updates as we know more. Please join Hillary, Chelsea and me in keeping Donna in your thoughts and prayers.”

Mr. Clinton visited Ms. Shalala Tuesday evening, according to a person briefed on their discussion, and they had what the person called “a good conversation” after surgery. She was said to be alert and making jokes with him, which he found relieving.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/us/donna-shalala-president-of-clinton-foundation-has-stroke.html?_r=0


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September 30, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
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The End Of Hillary? Teamsters "Snub" Clinton, Meet With Trump

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-30/end-hillary-teamsters-snub-clinton-meet-trump


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As if the collapse of her poll numbers and trust factor were not already accelerating, it appears Hillary Clinton may have just seen yet another nail in the coffin of her run for Presidency 2.0. As Fox News reports, The Teamsters union’s general executive board voted unanimously Tuesday, 26-0, to hold off on endorsing Clinton at its meeting in Charleston, South Carolina. Furthermore, to rub further salt in that wound, the union is seeking a "sit-down" with Donald Trump....
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September 30, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
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This Weird Fact About the Clinton Family Fortune Will Blow Your Mind


Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill Clinton are very rich, raking in some $25 million in 2014. They own multiple mansions. They vacation in style. They make 4-5 times the median annual income for giving one speech to a room full of Wall Street executives and/or brutal dictators. Since they left the White House “dead broke” in 2001, they’ve pocketed more than $200 million. But at least some of that massive haul is unaccounted for in their annual financial disclosure, raising some interesting questions, such as, “Where is it?”

Dan Alexander explains in Forbes:

Since Bill and Hillary Clinton left the White House in 2001, they have earned more than $230 million. But in federal filings the Clintons claim they are worth somewhere between $11 million and $53 million. After layering years of disclosures on top of annual tax returns, Forbes estimates their combined net worth at $45 million. Where did all of the money go? No one seems to know, and the Clintons aren’t offering any answers.

From 2001 to 2014 the power couple spent $95 million on taxes. Hillary’s 2008 presidential run cost her $13 million. Their two homes cost a combined $5 million, and the Clintons have given away $22 million to charity. All of this is according to FEC filings, property records and years of tax returns. Add it up and you get $135 million. If the Clintons made $230 million, spent $135 million and have just $45 million left over, what happened to the other $50 million?

“That’s kind of strange,” says Joe Biden’s accountant, Walter Deyhle. “You have to report all of your assets. You have to report assets that are owned by your spouse.”


Where’s the missing $50 million? Who knows? One assumes that Bill wasn’t getting a gentleman’s discount on his trips aboard “The Lolita Express” and “Air F**k One,” as well as his stays on “Orgy Island” with billionaire donor and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Alexander offers one possible, if “unlikely” explanation:

It seems unlikely, but they could have given it away overseas: Donations to foreign charities are not deductible and would not be listed on tax returns. Billionaires like Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal of Saudi Arabia, Lakshmi Mittal of India and Joseph Safra of Brazil have donated to their foundation. Maybe the Clintons are returning the favor?

$50 million seems like a lot to pay off Clinton aides like Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, who may soon be thrown under Hillary’s email bus. Could money convince Joe Biden not to run? Maybe they gave some of it to their daughter Chelsea? She’s already rich, but her husband is really bad at managing hedge funds.

Show us the money.


http://freebeacon.com/blog/this-weird-fact-about-the-clinton-family-fortune-will-blow-your-mind/


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September 30, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
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No I don't think so, Hillary Clinton is not trustworthy at all. There are so many scandals around right now, with the emails, the donations, the spending. People have lost the trust and i don't think that there are huge followers of her now, they are reduced. No matter what her polices are, she is not trustworthy enough.
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October 01, 2015, 03:26:11 AM
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No I don't think so, Hillary Clinton is not trustworthy at all. There are so many scandals around right now, with the emails, the donations, the spending. People have lost the trust and i don't think that there are huge followers of her now, they are reduced. No matter what her polices are, she is not trustworthy enough.

Biden is getting ready, with his black VP...


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October 01, 2015, 09:14:32 AM
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No politician is absolutely trustworthy, no doubt about that. However, if it comes to choosing one of them to become president you should  keep in mind that that person will be regarded as the face of your country by the outside world. I like to go around in my flat wearing just underpants because they are convenient and "trustworthy", but when I go outside I wear a suit.


The world does not care about the US. The "world" cares about its own self interests but wants to look smart, wearing cheap suits made in Bangladesh by little children...




Well, maybe I'm one of those "wearing cheap suits made in Bangladesh by little children" guys, but I do care about the US. USA is the most influential country in the world, and not only in Politics but in many other fields like culture for example. And I think Americans should also care about what does the outside world think about them to avoid things like 9/11 in the future.

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October 01, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
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Yes I think so, she has already proven herself to me when Bill Clinton was in office, I think we all know that she was calling the shots back then and was basically already president, except Bill Clinton had the 'titel'

Also US debt and foreign affairs were very good at the time, so for me, as a democratic candidate she'd have my vote if I lived in the US.

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October 01, 2015, 03:50:20 PM
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Russian Hackers Tried 5 Times to Break Into Hillary’s Home Server



Russia-linked hackers tried at least five times to pry into Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email account while she was US secretary of state, emails released Wednesday show.

It is unclear, however, if she clicked on any attachment and exposed her account.

Clinton received the infected emails, disguised as speeding tickets, over four hours early on the morning of August 3, 2011.

The emails instructed recipients to print the attached tickets, which would have allowed hackers to take control of their computers.

Security researchers who analyzed the malicious software in September 2011 said that infected computers would transmit information from victims to at least three server computers overseas, including one in Russia.

But that doesn't necessarily mean Russian intelligence or citizens were responsible.

Clinton has said repeatedly that the unusual homebrew server she used was secure.

But the phishing attempts highlight the risk of Clinton's unsecure email being pried open by foreign intelligence agencies, even if others also received the virus concealed as a speeding ticket from Chatham, New York. The email misspelled the name of the city, came from a supposed New York City government account and contained a "Ticket.zip" file that would have been a red flag.

Most commercial antivirus software at the time would have detected the software, identified it as dangerous and prevented users from infecting themselves. It was unclear if the State Department's network security would have flagged the infected message, or what precautions were in place protecting Clinton's server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-linked-hackers-tried-to-break-in-5-times-into-hillary-clintons-private-server-2015-9


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Russian Hackers Tried 5 Times to Break Into Hillary’s Home Server



Russia-linked hackers tried at least five times to pry into Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email account while she was US secretary of state, emails released Wednesday show.

It is unclear, however, if she clicked on any attachment and exposed her account.

Clinton received the infected emails, disguised as speeding tickets, over four hours early on the morning of August 3, 2011.

The emails instructed recipients to print the attached tickets, which would have allowed hackers to take control of their computers.

Security researchers who analyzed the malicious software in September 2011 said that infected computers would transmit information from victims to at least three server computers overseas, including one in Russia.

But that doesn't necessarily mean Russian intelligence or citizens were responsible.

Clinton has said repeatedly that the unusual homebrew server she used was secure.

But the phishing attempts highlight the risk of Clinton's unsecure email being pried open by foreign intelligence agencies, even if others also received the virus concealed as a speeding ticket from Chatham, New York. The email misspelled the name of the city, came from a supposed New York City government account and contained a "Ticket.zip" file that would have been a red flag.

Most commercial antivirus software at the time would have detected the software, identified it as dangerous and prevented users from infecting themselves. It was unclear if the State Department's network security would have flagged the infected message, or what precautions were in place protecting Clinton's server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-linked-hackers-tried-to-break-in-5-times-into-hillary-clintons-private-server-2015-9


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"Most of the world did not know the server existed until a few months ago.
The Russians knew about it."







Of course they knew about it and these sorts of phising attempts are amateur-hour stuff.  high level russian and chinese espionage agents wouldn't send phising e-mails, they'd gain access through other means.

and I find it laughable that hillary keeps saying it was secure.  this is the same idiot that said she didn't know how this stuff works when asked about wiping the server.  I'll agree, it is likely she knows little, if anything, about high level cyber security, making her unfit to make such an assessment; and I doubt her closet custodian could hold a candle to those in the upper tiers of governement tasked with this sort of security.  His primary qualification was likely that he'd do anything to kiss her ass, hoping for some crumbs to fall from her cooter.

who is to say the closet man didn't grab files?  he had access.  what is his clearance?   what were the security protocols to prevent this sort of physical on-site grab that are in place at high level organizations.
I'm going to bet next to none.  Where is the handbook of security protocols that is in place at these sorts of places?  I'd love to see it.

This is a total shit show of the highest order.  From a strict security standpoint from what I've seen so far, there was none.  Dumb bitch might as well have been using a local cyber cafe. 
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Russian Hackers Tried 5 Times to Break Into Hillary’s Home Server



Russia-linked hackers tried at least five times to pry into Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email account while she was US secretary of state, emails released Wednesday show.

It is unclear, however, if she clicked on any attachment and exposed her account.

Clinton received the infected emails, disguised as speeding tickets, over four hours early on the morning of August 3, 2011.

The emails instructed recipients to print the attached tickets, which would have allowed hackers to take control of their computers.

Security researchers who analyzed the malicious software in September 2011 said that infected computers would transmit information from victims to at least three server computers overseas, including one in Russia.

But that doesn't necessarily mean Russian intelligence or citizens were responsible.

Clinton has said repeatedly that the unusual homebrew server she used was secure.

But the phishing attempts highlight the risk of Clinton's unsecure email being pried open by foreign intelligence agencies, even if others also received the virus concealed as a speeding ticket from Chatham, New York. The email misspelled the name of the city, came from a supposed New York City government account and contained a "Ticket.zip" file that would have been a red flag.

Most commercial antivirus software at the time would have detected the software, identified it as dangerous and prevented users from infecting themselves. It was unclear if the State Department's network security would have flagged the infected message, or what precautions were in place protecting Clinton's server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-linked-hackers-tried-to-break-in-5-times-into-hillary-clintons-private-server-2015-9


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"Most of the world did not know the server existed until a few months ago.
The Russians knew about it."







Of course they knew about it and these sorts of phising attempts are amateur-hour stuff.  high level russian and chinese espionage agents wouldn't send phising e-mails, they'd gain access through other means.

and I find it laughable that hillary keeps saying it was secure.  this is the same idiot that said she didn't know how this stuff works when asked about wiping the server.  I'll agree, it is likely she knows little, if anything, about high level cyber security, making her unfit to make such an assessment; and I doubt her closet custodian could hold a candle to those in the upper tiers of governement tasked with this sort of security.  His primary qualification was likely that he'd do anything to kiss her ass, hoping for some crumbs to fall from her cooter.

who is to say the closet man didn't grab files?  he had access.  what is his clearance?   what were the security protocols to prevent this sort of physical on-site grab that are in place at high level organizations.
I'm going to bet next to none.  Where is the handbook of security protocols that is in place at these sorts of places?  I'd love to see it.

This is a total shit show of the highest order.  From a strict security standpoint from what I've seen so far, there was none.  Dumb bitch might as well have been using a local cyber cafe. 


Not just her. How many times people who she was replying to got exposed in so many ways? The value was her network, who she trusted, etc. To know everyone on this network, then to know their weakness, was the ultimate price to get future pressure points of failure.


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NOPE    LOL!!!!!

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Russian Hackers Tried 5 Times to Break Into Hillary’s Home Server



Russia-linked hackers tried at least five times to pry into Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email account while she was US secretary of state, emails released Wednesday show.

It is unclear, however, if she clicked on any attachment and exposed her account.

Clinton received the infected emails, disguised as speeding tickets, over four hours early on the morning of August 3, 2011.

The emails instructed recipients to print the attached tickets, which would have allowed hackers to take control of their computers.

Security researchers who analyzed the malicious software in September 2011 said that infected computers would transmit information from victims to at least three server computers overseas, including one in Russia.

But that doesn't necessarily mean Russian intelligence or citizens were responsible.

Clinton has said repeatedly that the unusual homebrew server she used was secure.

But the phishing attempts highlight the risk of Clinton's unsecure email being pried open by foreign intelligence agencies, even if others also received the virus concealed as a speeding ticket from Chatham, New York. The email misspelled the name of the city, came from a supposed New York City government account and contained a "Ticket.zip" file that would have been a red flag.

Most commercial antivirus software at the time would have detected the software, identified it as dangerous and prevented users from infecting themselves. It was unclear if the State Department's network security would have flagged the infected message, or what precautions were in place protecting Clinton's server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-linked-hackers-tried-to-break-in-5-times-into-hillary-clintons-private-server-2015-9


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"Most of the world did not know the server existed until a few months ago.
The Russians knew about it."







Of course they knew about it and these sorts of phising attempts are amateur-hour stuff.  high level russian and chinese espionage agents wouldn't send phising e-mails, they'd gain access through other means.

and I find it laughable that hillary keeps saying it was secure.  this is the same idiot that said she didn't know how this stuff works when asked about wiping the server.  I'll agree, it is likely she knows little, if anything, about high level cyber security, making her unfit to make such an assessment; and I doubt her closet custodian could hold a candle to those in the upper tiers of governement tasked with this sort of security.  His primary qualification was likely that he'd do anything to kiss her ass, hoping for some crumbs to fall from her cooter.

who is to say the closet man didn't grab files?  he had access.  what is his clearance?   what were the security protocols to prevent this sort of physical on-site grab that are in place at high level organizations.
I'm going to bet next to none.  Where is the handbook of security protocols that is in place at these sorts of places?  I'd love to see it.

This is a total shit show of the highest order.  From a strict security standpoint from what I've seen so far, there was none.  Dumb bitch might as well have been using a local cyber cafe. 


Not just her. How many times people who she was replying to got exposed in so many ways? The value was her network, who she trusted, etc. To know everyone on this network, then to know their weakness, was the ultimate price to get future pressure points of failure.





Yep as soon as she was compromised, and we have to think she was, all of her contacts were outed and likely pursued as well.

Nice job, Hilly, you moron.
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Does this topic make any sense at all? Asking whether Hillary Clinton is Trustworthy, is like asking whether ISIS can be considered as a charity organization or like asking whether we should consider Ted Bundy to be a role model for the American males.
it is what can be said in this topic.politics is for having money,fame and power easily not for doing good things.if you want to achieve you do anything for them , mostly and basically you lie.first lie is to serve country ,no you just want something else.it is same in every country.

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