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September 22, 2015, 11:11:23 PM
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Why Wall Street Loves Hillary

She's trying to sound populist, but the banks are ready to shower her campaign with cash.


By William D. Cohan
November 11, 2014



An odd thing happened last month when, stumping just before the midterms, Hillary Clinton came in close proximity to the woman who has sometimes been described as the conscience of the Democratic Party. Speaking at the Park Plaza Hotel in Boston as she did her part to try to rescue the failing gubernatorial campaign of Martha Coakley in Massachusetts, Clinton paid deference to Senator Elizabeth Warren, the anti-Wall Street firebrand who has accused Clinton of pandering to the big banks, and who was sitting right there listening.

 “I love watching Elizabeth give it to those who deserve it,” Clinton said to cheers. But then, awkwardly, she appeared to try to out-Warren Warren—and perhaps build a bridge too far to the left—by uttering words she clearly did not believe: “Don’t let anyone tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs,” Clinton said, erroneously echoing a meme Warren made famous during an August 2011 speech at a home in Andover, Massachusetts. “You know that old theory, trickle-down economics? That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”

The right went wild. See? Hillary Clinton has finally shown her hand. After having sat out the financial crisis and all the economic turmoil that has followed in the past six years—and with good reason, since for most of that time she was tending to the nation’s diplomacy as secretary of state—she is proving to be an anti-Wall Street populist too, and as much a socialist as her former boss, President Obama.

But here’s the strange thing: Down on Wall Street they don’t believe it for a minute. While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industry—among them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of America—consider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, she’s someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.

Although Hillary Clinton has made no formal announcement of her candidacy, the consensus on Wall Street is that she is running—and running hard—and that her national organization is quickly falling into place behind the scenes. That all makes her attractive. Wall Street, above all, loves a winner, especially one who is not likely to tamper too radically with its vast money pot.

According to a wide assortment of bankers and hedge-fund managers I spoke to for this article, Clinton’s rock-solid support on Wall Street is not anything that can be dislodged based on a few seemingly off-the-cuff comments in Boston calculated to protect her left flank. (For the record, she quickly walked them back, saying she had “short-handed” her comments about the failures of trickle-down economics by suggesting, absurdly, that corporations don’t create jobs.) “I think people are very excited about Hillary,” says one Wall Street investment professional with close ties to Washington. “Most people in New York on the finance side view her as being very pragmatic. I think they have confidence that she understands how things work and that she’s not a populist.”

The bottom line for Wall Street, says this executive—echoing many others—is that Clinton understands that America’s much-maligned financial industry wants to be part of the solution to the country’s problems. “Everybody who makes money feels a shared responsibility,” he continues. “Everybody sort of looks at her with a lot of optimism because they feel she doesn’t mind making hard decisions. She’ll do what she needs to do, but it’s not a ‘Let me blame you.’ It’s, ‘Hey, here’s what you’ve got to do.’ And I think that’s very different.” During a speech last December at the Conrad Hotel, in New York, her message could not have been more different from Obama’s hot, anti-Wall Street rhetoric: “We all got into this mess together, and we’re all going to have to work together to get out of it.”
 
During the 2012 presidential election, Wall Street felt burned by Obama’s rhetoric and regulatory positions and overwhelmingly supported with their money Republican candidate Mitt Romney, co-founder of private-equity firm Bain Capital. Now, though, there’s a significant momentum back behind the Democratic contest. “The money is already behind her,” the Wall Street money manager says. “I don’t think it’s starting to line up behind her: It’s there for her if she wants it.”

The informal head of her informal Wall Street outreach effort for her informal campaign is a finance executive she knows well—and recruited to work for her at the State Department. Tom Nides, 53, the Morgan Stanley executive, knows both New York and Washington intimately. Today he speaks with Clinton regularly and has begun to play the role of gatekeeper on Wall Street to her embryonic campaign. He also has been known to run interference between the Obama administration and the leaders of the Israeli government, in order to try to patch up their dysfunctional relationship. “Tom at the end of the day is the guy—she trusts him, she knows him,” says the Wall Street investment manager.

Nides returned to Morgan Stanley in 2013 after two years working for Clinton at the State Department as deputy secretary of state for management and resources. Nides (with whom I once shared a one-week summer rental on Nantucket) epitomizes the revolving door that has long existed between Washington and Wall Street. Born in Duluth, Minnesota, he served in a senior leadership role for a diverse group of Washington politicians, from Representatives Tony Coehlo and Tom Foley to, as chief of staff, Mickey Kantor, Bill Clinton’s U.S. trade representative. He worked at Fannie Mae for six years, ran Joe Lieberman’s 2000 vice-presidential campaign and served a brief stint as CEO of Burson Marsteller, the public relations firm.

In 2001, Morgan Stanley CEO John Mack took Nides under his wing. When Mack was named CEO of Credit Suisse, Nides went along with him as chief administrative officer. When Mack returned to Morgan Stanley as CEO in 2005, Nides accompanied him again as chief operating officer and then stayed another year serving in the same role for James Gorman. Then Nides returned to Washington to work for then-Secretary Clinton at the State Department, replacing Jack Lew, who became head of the Office of Management and Budget. Many thought Nides’ time at Morgan Stanley was over, especially with Mack’s retirement at the end of 2011. But Gorman—also a Hillary supporter—surprised people by bringing Nides back to the firm as a vice-chairman.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/why-wall-street-loves-hillary-112782#ixzz3mVnl0B76



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September 23, 2015, 02:03:54 AM
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Trump makes money if the US is doing well, etc. He builds hotels, golf courses, sells apartments, casinos, etc.
Wall street can make money betting the economy will tank. Wall street makes money up, or down. That is why trump is worth $10B and bloomberg $38.5B.


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Trump makes money if the US is doing well, etc. He builds hotels, golf courses, sells apartments, casinos, etc.
Wall street can make money betting the economy will tank. Wall street makes money up, or down. That is why trump is worth $10B and bloomberg $38.5B.




They certainly make money up and down but I doubt that it´s much of a bet. And how much that has to do with the real economy is anybody´s guess especially after years and years of money printing at zero %. It´s probably one big inside job and that´s nothing new. But these days they have their own inside job under much better control than a few decades ago especially due to technology and that gigantic money manufacturing. And of course their political and media lapdogs have never been more obedient and domesticated than now.

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I think the Russians could do business with a sane American scumbag. They can hardly embarrass themselves by congregating much with losers and non-personalities like Obama and Fester Kerry. Don´t get me started with that Biden guy, a cloud of sleep gathers over me zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Anyway, the more I ponder Trump the worse his opposition looks in both parts of the one-party system. Your next Joe Sixpack probably feels pretty much the same. This wasn´t much of a problem in earlier times, the media and other opinion designers got their cues and the right guy for Wall St. and the war business was trumpeted up with ease, sometimes out of the blue nowhere. But nowadays I´m not so sure that it works so well. People have watched too many flopped war promotions and failed financial productions to take the media and the experts very seriously anymore. So that all bodes well for Trump.

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September 23, 2015, 04:38:42 AM
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Americans think Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is about as trustworthy as Donald Trump.
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September 23, 2015, 04:56:39 AM
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Well, I haven't seen the Donald claim that a video caused four murders in Libya, nor has he persecuted women that Billybob has abused and even raped, and he certainly hasn´t been lying about how his emails are handled, or claiming he was deadbroke at any time in his life. So, that seems pretty trustworthy. The less they lie the better.


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September 23, 2015, 05:20:49 AM
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Americans think Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is about as trustworthy as Donald Trump.


It is always helpful to bring a link, an article, numbers, etc to the conversation. You are still welcome if all you have is a personal feeling or belief, of course...

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September 23, 2015, 05:33:36 AM
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Americans think Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is about as trustworthy as Donald Trump.


It is always helpful to bring a link, an article, numbers, etc to the conversation. You are still welcome if all you have is a personal feeling or belief, of course...

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It´s probably this. Got that pic of The Donald there

Trump and Clinton are leading the polls even though most Americans don't trust them

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http://uk.businessinsider.com/poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-trustworthy-honest-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

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Grassley blasts FBI over Clinton emails

"The FBI is behaving like it’s above the law."


Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley is blasting the FBI for rebuffing a judge's request for information on the law enforcement agency's investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email system.

Grassley, whose panel oversees the FBI, reacted sharply to a letter the FBI sent Monday turning aside U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan's request for information on whether investigators have been able to retrieve records from a backup thumb drive of Clinton emails or from a server turned over by a tech company Clinton hired.

"The FBI is behaving like it’s above the law," Grassley said in a statement provided to POLITICO on Monday evening. "Simply refusing to cooperate with a court-ordered request is not an appropriate course of action. This entire case, from Secretary Clinton’s ill-advised decision to use a non-government email server, to the FBI’s investigation about classified information, needs some transparency in order to assure the American people that getting to the bottom of this controversy is a priority.”

Grassley, who has been investigating aspects of the email controversy and State's personnel practices, did not elaborate on what steps his committee might take. It's also unclear whether the judge involved or other judges handling similar cases might take more emphatic action, like directly ordering the FBI to cooperate.

About a month ago, Sullivan asked the State Department to reach out to the FBI for assistance in addressing a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative group Judicial Watch regarding Clinton aide Huma Abedin's employment arrangements. The judge also asked State to report on arrangements for the FBI to share information about the ongoing investigation.

In a terse letter Monday, FBI General Counsel James Baker appeared to reject the request .

"At this time, consistent with long-standing Department of Justice and FBI policy, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any ongoing investigation, nor are we in a position to provide additional information at this time," Baker wrote to senior State Department attorney Mary McLeod.

DOJ confirmed in July that it received a referral from the Intelligence Community inspector general regarding possible compromise of classified information in Clinton's email account. The agency initially said the referral was criminal, but later said it was not and that it was sent under a counterintelligence law regarding possible breaches involving national security secrets.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/fbi-rejects-judges-request-for-clinton-email-info-213889




Here's the way the Hillary emails should be handled.  Any and all emails which were at least once in an insecure system (known to be hacked) should be presumed totally insecure, like private keys which had been exposed.

Those no longer have any need of Classified Document Protocol, and hence should all be publicly released.  Many examples of this, for example, Snowden releases classified material, by definition it is no longer classified, and that conversion is his crime.

Now we're going to treat Hillary and her emails differently?

Really?
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September 23, 2015, 06:11:30 PM
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Grassley blasts FBI over Clinton emails

"The FBI is behaving like it’s above the law."


Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley is blasting the FBI for rebuffing a judge's request for information on the law enforcement agency's investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email system.

Grassley, whose panel oversees the FBI, reacted sharply to a letter the FBI sent Monday turning aside U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan's request for information on whether investigators have been able to retrieve records from a backup thumb drive of Clinton emails or from a server turned over by a tech company Clinton hired.

"The FBI is behaving like it’s above the law," Grassley said in a statement provided to POLITICO on Monday evening. "Simply refusing to cooperate with a court-ordered request is not an appropriate course of action. This entire case, from Secretary Clinton’s ill-advised decision to use a non-government email server, to the FBI’s investigation about classified information, needs some transparency in order to assure the American people that getting to the bottom of this controversy is a priority.”

Grassley, who has been investigating aspects of the email controversy and State's personnel practices, did not elaborate on what steps his committee might take. It's also unclear whether the judge involved or other judges handling similar cases might take more emphatic action, like directly ordering the FBI to cooperate.

About a month ago, Sullivan asked the State Department to reach out to the FBI for assistance in addressing a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative group Judicial Watch regarding Clinton aide Huma Abedin's employment arrangements. The judge also asked State to report on arrangements for the FBI to share information about the ongoing investigation.

In a terse letter Monday, FBI General Counsel James Baker appeared to reject the request .

"At this time, consistent with long-standing Department of Justice and FBI policy, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any ongoing investigation, nor are we in a position to provide additional information at this time," Baker wrote to senior State Department attorney Mary McLeod.

DOJ confirmed in July that it received a referral from the Intelligence Community inspector general regarding possible compromise of classified information in Clinton's email account. The agency initially said the referral was criminal, but later said it was not and that it was sent under a counterintelligence law regarding possible breaches involving national security secrets.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/fbi-rejects-judges-request-for-clinton-email-info-213889




Here's the way the Hillary emails should be handled.  Any and all emails which were at least once in an insecure system (known to be hacked) should be presumed totally insecure, like private keys which had been exposed.

Those no longer have any need of Classified Document Protocol, and hence should all be publicly released.  Many examples of this, for example, Snowden releases classified material, by definition it is no longer classified, and that conversion is his crime.

Now we're going to treat Hillary and her emails differently?

Really?





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September 24, 2015, 04:16:23 AM
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Hillary Clinton Email Company Hacked By Foreign Attackers


The company that Hillary Clinton paid to manage her private email network was the victim of a massive international hack during the period in which Clinton was employing it, Breitbart News has learned.

Hillary Clinton used the company Internap as the internet service provider for her private email account during her tenure as Secretary of State. Internap, based in Atlanta, has a facility in Manhattan, near the the physical location of the IP address for clintonemail.com.

In March 2011, the security company RSA was hacked. The hackers got into the company’s system through a malware-infested email sent to an employee, then installed a “backdoor” and stole data. RSA called it “an extremely sophisticated cyber attack.”

RSA was not the only victim of the attack. A victim list showed that more than 760 other organizations were also “compromised.” Internap appeared five times on the full victim list.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/22/exclusive-hillary-clinton-email-company-hacked-foreign-attackers/


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The hackers got into the company’s system through a malware-infested email sent to an employee

According to my sources this is the email. Emails and acct. numbers removed to protect the brain-dead that might happen upon this message.

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ATTENTION: DEAR BENEFICIARY. ARE YOU DEAD OR ALIVE? SPEAK OUT NOW.


UNION BANK PLC.
Head Office: FALOMO:


Marina, Lagos, Nigeria.


Date:


Attn: Dear Valued Customer/Beneficiary.

A  power of attorney  was forwarded to our office this morning by two individuals  MR DAVID DEANE an American  national and  MR. RICKY JACKSON  a CANADIAN  national.

They claimed to  be your representative, and the power of attorney stated that you are dead, they  brought an account  to replace your information in other to claim the said fund in tune of  US$28,500,000 Million USD  which is now lying DORMANT and UNCLAIMED.

Find below the new account they have submitted for claims.

                    BANK.-HSBC CANADA
                    Vancouver, CANADA
                    ACCOUNT NO.

The power of attorney also stated that you suffered and died of  throat cancer.

You are therefore given 24hrs to confirm the truth in this information, If you are still alive, you are to contact us immediately since we work 24 hrs just to ensure that we monitor all the activities going on in regards to the transfer of beneficiaries inheritance and contract payment.

You are to respond swiftly for clarifications on this matter as we shall be available 24 hrs to speak with you and give you the necessary guidelines on how to ensure that your payment is wired to you immediately.

Just also be informed that any further delay from your side could be dangerous, as we would not be held liable for any wrong payment.

Kindly reply us on this e-mail

Best Regards,

Mr. Adekunle M. Adeosun, Executive Director.
FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT,
UNION OF BANK PLC.
LAGOS, NIGERIA.

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The hackers got into the company’s system through a malware-infested email sent to an employee

According to my sources this is the email. Emails and acct. numbers removed to protect the brain-dead that might happen upon this message.

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ATTENTION: DEAR BENEFICIARY. ARE YOU DEAD OR ALIVE? SPEAK OUT NOW.


UNION BANK PLC.
Head Office: FALOMO:


Marina, Lagos, Nigeria.


Date:


Attn: Dear Valued Customer/Beneficiary.

A  power of attorney  was forwarded to our office this morning by two individuals  MR DAVID DEANE an American  national and  MR. RICKY JACKSON  a CANADIAN  national.

They claimed to  be your representative, and the power of attorney stated that you are dead, they  brought an account  to replace your information in other to claim the said fund in tune of  US$28,500,000 Million USD  which is now lying DORMANT and UNCLAIMED.

Find below the new account they have submitted for claims.

                    BANK.-HSBC CANADA
                    Vancouver, CANADA
                    ACCOUNT NO.

The power of attorney also stated that you suffered and died of  throat cancer.

You are therefore given 24hrs to confirm the truth in this information, If you are still alive, you are to contact us immediately since we work 24 hrs just to ensure that we monitor all the activities going on in regards to the transfer of beneficiaries inheritance and contract payment.

You are to respond swiftly for clarifications on this matter as we shall be available 24 hrs to speak with you and give you the necessary guidelines on how to ensure that your payment is wired to you immediately.

Just also be informed that any further delay from your side could be dangerous, as we would not be held liable for any wrong payment.

Kindly reply us on this e-mail

Best Regards,

Mr. Adekunle M. Adeosun, Executive Director.
FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT,
UNION OF BANK PLC.
LAGOS, NIGERIA.


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September 24, 2015, 03:25:49 PM
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People actually fall for this shit? Actually contact the scammers? It staggers belief. But of course there´s no shortage of idiots. In general I think the population is getting dumber by the year. And it´s probably accelerating.

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People actually fall for this shit? Actually contact the scammers? It staggers belief. But of course there´s no shortage of idiots. In general I think the population is getting dumber by the year. And it´s probably accelerating.


http://www.419eater.com/html/hall_of_shame23.htm


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I mean, it isn´t like people even need to be aware of the arrival of this spam much less need to read it. It arrives to me but obviously never reaches the inbox. Or almost never, maybe a couple a year it´s very rare.

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I mean, it isn´t like people even need to be aware of the arrival of this spam much less need to read it. It arrives to me but obviously never reaches the inbox. Or almost never, maybe a couple a year it´s very rare.


Most people don't know how to use a computer.


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People actually fall for this shit? Actually contact the scammers? It staggers belief. But of course there´s no shortage of idiots. In general I think the population is getting dumber by the year. And it´s probably accelerating.


http://www.419eater.com/html/hall_of_shame23.htm




Some of that shit is hilarious.  I've responded and lead them on for a few weeks, but nothing like some of these people.  these guys are running these assholes all over Africa.

seriously fucking hysterical shit.
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September 24, 2015, 07:55:58 PM
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Yes, I think she is trustworthy.
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People actually fall for this shit? Actually contact the scammers? It staggers belief. But of course there´s no shortage of idiots. In general I think the population is getting dumber by the year. And it´s probably accelerating.


http://www.419eater.com/html/hall_of_shame23.htm




Some of that shit is hilarious.  I've responded and lead them on for a few weeks, but nothing like some of these people.  these guys are running these assholes all over Africa.

seriously fucking hysterical shit.

This one´s pretty good.  Concise and to the point so that morons don´t need to waste too much mental effort Grin

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