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March 04, 2016, 05:12:37 PM
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We merely have a supporter who dons a flag appropriated by ISIS in his Avatar.
It is more than that. This guy openly supports a group that destroys, murders and terrorizes. Would you like to live next door to that? Would you like to invest in something this supporter invests in? Would you build a school or anything else with these people? Would you like to be associated with any of that?  I don't think so.

But that's the thing, I never heard him openly back the things you just said.
Currently he's merely guilty of posting an offensive picture.

If his goal was to troll people, he probably jizzed in his pants like crazy.

Edit: Who knows, maybe he has a problem with western civilization in general, which I can understand, and he has found the ISIS flag to be the most effective in offending us westerners?
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March 04, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
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We merely have a supporter who dons a flag appropriated by ISIS in his Avatar.
It is more than that. This guy openly supports a group that destroys, murders and terrorizes. Would you like to live next door to that? Would you like to invest in something this supporter invests in? Would you build a school or anything else with these people? Would you like to be associated with any of that?  I don't think so.

I made a point earlier that in a globalized society you can be guilty of any number of associations. You use the U.S. dollar I'm assuming... you know who else uses the U.S. dollar? Terrorists use the U.S. dollar. You are supporting the system as much as anyone else, don't you see? Or at least I can make that association.

To go even more abstractly, you share a common language with him... and terrorists.. I could make the association that you are related in some way!

You ask specifically if I like to be associated with these things, but association is something that can be done by an outsider or as my own personal decision.

I can associate myself with those things, but I choose not to.

You can associate me with a plethora of things, but I have no control over what you associate me with, even if I don't LIKE it.

So what I'm getting at here, is that many associations can be made, but many are also out of my control, because other people can be the ones making the associations


Separately, you own a computer... you have invested in something a terrorist has also invested in... you literally cannot separate yourself from these things. You're in the thick of it.

P.S. people don't make good building blocks... though I think they were used in The Great Wall of China


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March 04, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
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We merely have a supporter who dons a flag appropriated by ISIS in his Avatar.
It is more than that. This guy openly supports a group that destroys, murders and terrorizes. Would you like to live next door to that? Would you like to invest in something this supporter invests in? Would you build a school or anything else with these people? Would you like to be associated with any of that?  I don't think so.

I made a point earlier that in a globalized society you can be guilty of any number of associations. You use the U.S. dollar I'm assuming... you know who else uses the U.S. dollar? Terrorists use the U.S. dollar. You are supporting the system as much as anyone else, don't you see? Or at least I can make that association.

To go even more abstractly, you share a common language with him... and terrorists.. I could make the association that you are related in some way!

You ask specifically if I like to be associated with these things, but association is something that can be done by an outsider or as a personal decision.

I can associate myself with those things, but I choose not to.

You can associate me with a plethora of things, but I have no control over what you associate me with, even if I don't LIKE it.

So what I'm getting at here, is that many associations can be made, but many are also out of my control, because other people can the ones making the associations


Separately, you own a computer... you have invested in something a terrorist has also invested in... you literally cannot separate yourself from these things. You're in the thick of it.

P.S. people don't make good building blocks... though I think they were used in The Great Wall of China



This guy is deep!
Where have you been all this time!  Smiley

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March 04, 2016, 05:29:46 PM
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We merely have a supporter who dons a flag appropriated by ISIS in his Avatar.
It is more than that. This guy openly supports a group that destroys, murders and terrorizes. Would you like to live next door to that? Would you like to invest in something this supporter invests in? Would you build a school or anything else with these people? Would you like to be associated with any of that?  I don't think so.

I made a point earlier that in a globalized society you can be guilty of any number of associations. You use the U.S. dollar I'm assuming... you know who else uses the U.S. dollar? Terrorists use the U.S. dollar. You are supporting the system as much as anyone else, don't you see? Or at least I can make that association.

To go even more abstractly, you share a common language with him... and terrorists.. I could make the association that you are related in some way!

You ask specifically if I like to be associated with these things, but association is something that can be done by an outsider or as a personal decision.

I can associate myself with those things, but I choose not to.

You can associate me with a plethora of things, but I have no control over what you associate me with, even if I don't LIKE it.

So what I'm getting at here, is that many associations can be made, but many are also out of my control, because other people can the ones making the associations


Separately, you own a computer... you have invested in something a terrorist has also invested in... you literally cannot separate yourself from these things. You're in the thick of it.

P.S. people don't make good building blocks... though I think they were used in The Great Wall of China



This guy is deep!
Where have you been all this time!  Smiley

I agree, good points... doesn't take away from the fact that it doesn't feel right to have a terror supporter in our community. It doesn't feel right to have to have these conversations. Most ideologies stand for something, these people are out to destroy without reason or distinction. I thought we stand for building something new, explore the unexplored. This takes the fun pretty much out of it.
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March 04, 2016, 05:37:58 PM
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I agree, good points... doesn't take away from the fact that it doesn't feel right to have a terror supporter in our community. It doesn't feel right to have to have these conversations. Most ideologies stand for something, these people are out to destroy without reason or distinction. I thought we stand for building something new, explore the unexplored. This takes the fun pretty much out of it.

This reminds me of something that happened to me a few days ago.

I went to the supermarket/discounter to buy some groceries, and one corner of the room there smelled intensly like dog shit.

Now, my first thought was "what kind of supermarket is this!",
but then I remembered that I saw an alcoholic bum with a dog outside the supermarket when I came in and everything made sense.

See, that's the thing, why should I blame the supermarket for something they have no control over?
They did the best they could to fix the problem (remove the dog shit), but the smell took a little longer to disappear since their localities are underground.

Same with any troll that dumps his shit here.

There is no connection between spreadcoin and dog shit.
But there is dog shit of course.

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March 04, 2016, 05:42:28 PM
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Same with any troll that dumps his shit here.

LOL... anyone still interested in dumping on our lawn?


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March 04, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
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Same with any troll that dumps his shit here.

LOL... anyone still interested in dumping on our lawn?




LMAO!

If only trolls actually followed warning messages.
The alcoholic certainly didn't care about the signs in front of the supermarket!  Cheesy


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March 04, 2016, 05:54:11 PM
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I do have a few questions about Spreadcoin. What exactly is a node? Is it user friendly to set up a node? And could we run a website on them?
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March 04, 2016, 06:17:48 PM
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2015-08-31 09:43:54     kcud_dab        theymos: is there any rules about avatars ? I've a member with the ISIS flag... (don't know if the guy is serious or if he thinks that's funny), shoud I do something ?
2015-08-31 10:51:38     theymos         kcud_dab: Avatars are supposed to be worksafe and not terribly disturbing. I think the ISIS flag is acceptable, though. Hopefully he's just joking. If he actually starts trying to aid ISIS via the forum, that'd need to be stopped. (I actually don't think that'd be a legal problem for the forum, but I won't tolerate that.)

This question was discussed the last year.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1167997.0
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March 04, 2016, 06:43:18 PM
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I do have a few questions about Spreadcoin. What exactly is a node? Is it user friendly to set up a node? And could we run a website on them?
there's a lot of explanation here (with more to come): http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727.0
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March 04, 2016, 06:58:04 PM
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I do have a few questions about Spreadcoin. What exactly is a node? Is it user friendly to set up a node? And could we run a website on them?
there's a lot of explanation here (with more to come): http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727.0

I love your new avatar.

Here's my interpretation of it:



 Grin

edit: lol, it looks like the dove is going to have spreadcoin for lunch!



I'm starting to doubt the intentions of this bird!  Cheesy

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March 04, 2016, 07:01:53 PM
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Thanks, Alexa, for your feedback in my profile. Wink
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March 04, 2016, 07:08:43 PM
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So this is a cultural issue: lone star vs. software integrators; and seeing things from the others perspective is difficult. But it's not turmoil.


16 years of experience managing large IT projects says that projects with one lone star refusing to collaborate with his team always ends up with some level of failure whether that mean total failure or a compromise on quality and benefits.

All the best start-ups begin with one or two people.  Statistically, you are correct. But that's where you need to develop your spidy-senses.  

Evan is still the lone star in Dash. There are plenty of people around him now, but for the majority of the project's life, it was a one man show.

Development teams come together when projects are in production and you're making incremental improvements. We're not there yet.

 
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I'm starting to doubt the intentions of this bird!  Cheesy
Hey... I like this... spread the SPR in peace Smiley
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March 04, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
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why are you and Georgem so nonchalant about Stone's leaving?

We both (coins101 and I) can't base our motivation on "volatile things" like
price level, violent mood swings of some members, or FUDding trolls.

Spreadcoin has survived dev-decapitation and troll infestations before, it's just another one of these "stormy days".

Nonchalance is what they deserve!


I have a lot of time for Stonehedge and Chaos. Personal decisions are, erm, personal. I've worked on too many projects and you have to deal with unexpected issues as they crop-up.  Crypto is just one big problem solving project.

> Analyse, assess, solve, improve, grow.

I'm still waiting for the fall-out from Mike Hearn's very, very public, in all the media (a lot) rage quit.

The reality is that the launch of service nodes is the current bottleneck. Once we have something working, we can allow parallel working and contributions from others on specific areas. That's the beauty and benefit of github and the pull request feature.

The risk to this project is the largely unanswered question that everyone seems to have :  is Georgem capable of doing the job?

You'll have to make your own minds up about that...I've made up my mind already.
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March 04, 2016, 09:13:36 PM
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no good morality without religion ; so there is that religion which gives the state a firm and lasting support

" No society can exist without morality ; there is no true morality without religion ; thus, only religion can give a firm and durable support to the state. "

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March 04, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
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no good morality without religion ; so there is that religion which gives the state a firm and lasting support

" No society can exist without morality ; there is no true morality without religion ; thus, only religion can give a firm and durable support to the state. "

Napoléon

More like, religion is the control tool FOR the state.
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SSDs are about to get Super cheap. So now we just need to worry about bandwith, but as tv providers look to  offer HD and 4k TV over the web, that will be an interesting challenge for node operators.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3040208/data-storage/samsung-ships-the-worlds-highest-capacity-ssd-with-15tb-of-storage.html?nsdr=true
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March 05, 2016, 12:34:22 AM
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15BTC fee, for a 3 BTC transaction:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384355.msg14077306#msg14077306

Wow. Painful.
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March 05, 2016, 12:52:26 AM
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15BTC fee, for a 3 BTC transaction:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384355.msg14077306#msg14077306

Wow. Painful.

Haha!

Maybe someone heard about our "help bitcoin miners" initiative and got carried away.

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I wonder what it feels like to give such a high fee to miners.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/block.dws?817413.htm

Feels great!

Sc8KwkyfNev6JgXQN5vxP8P9f9Kz6rVdec , have a beer!

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