Up Like Trump

[Elwar]

If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.

I'll speak for myself, but in some of the things I've heard Trump say, I suspect that he is somewhat in the same boat:

Back when Obama was first elected not a lot was known about him.  I think that the instinctive sentiment of most people was that he at least wished for the country to succeed in the way success was most commonly understood.  It was a rational expectation that Obama would have leveraged his status as 'the first black president' to foster improved cohesion.  When he at best neglected this task I suspect that a lot of thinking people were surprised.

In my observation it became clear very quickly that Obama was going to be a two-term president based on his activities which strongly favored the oligarchy class.  Only later did it start to dawn on me that even if it wasn't his idea to 'destroy be design' the U.S. and he was probably not himself an engineer in the task, he was perfectly willing to do whatever was asked in support of this project.  At that point a thinking person starts to ask 'why?'

One possible contributing factor in understanding Obama's disposition is that he is 'not born here.'  I don't know, and unlike others, I don't care that much.  There are many U.S. born people who 'hate America' just as there are many foreign born people who love it.  So, it's simply not an important factor in trying to unravel the mysteries of Obama's behavior as POTUS.

The tweet was from 2012.

Maybe he was just a big fan of Obamacare considering...you know..Trump supports universal healthcare. Like...you know...a socialist.

[Spendulus]

If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Sounds like sour grapes about some promise that was probably made.

Who knows, Trump is insane. There is no logic to what he says.

I'll speak for myself, but in some of the things I've heard Trump say, I suspect that he is somewhat in the same boat:

Back when Obama was first elected not a lot was known about him.  I think that the instinctive sentiment of most people was that he at least wished for the country to succeed in the way success was most commonly understood.  It was a rational expectation that Obama would have leveraged his status as 'the first black president' to foster improved cohesion.  When he at best neglected this task I suspect that a lot of thinking people were surprised.

In my observation it became clear very quickly that Obama was going to be a two-term president based on his activities which strongly favored the oligarchy class.  Only later did it start to dawn on me that even if it wasn't his idea to 'destroy be design' the U.S. and he was probably not himself an engineer in the task, he was perfectly willing to do whatever was asked in support of this project.  At that point a thinking person starts to ask 'why?'

One possible contributing factor in understanding Obama's disposition is that he is 'not born here.'  I don't know, and unlike others, I don't care that much.  There are many U.S. born people who 'hate America' just as there are many foreign born people who love it.  So, it's simply not an important factor in trying to unravel the mysteries of Obama's behavior as POTUS.

Well, maybe it was Soros behind the mystery of who paid for Obama's college.

[vokain]

It's like this: I like picking winners too. Back in 2012, I may or may not have placed a bet on betsofbitco.in on Barack Obama winning the election. I wasn't rooting for the guy—it was only good for business.

^^^^^  If this were true, why would Trump spend the next 8 years vocally doubting his citizenship?

Did Trump’s involvement in the birther thing confuse you? Were you wondering how Trump could believe Obama was not a citizen? The answer is that Trump never believed anything about Obama’s place of birth. The facts were irrelevant, so he ignored them while finding a place in the hearts of conservatives. For later.

[tvbcof]

Maybe he [Trump] was just a big fan of Obamacare considering...you know..Trump supports universal healthcare. Like...you know...a socialist.

I doubt that Trump was 'a big fan of Obamacare'.  Even I could see what a train-wreck it was going to be before it went in, and at the time I was a proponent of 'single payer.'  One of the problems with the problem/reaction/solution theme from a humanitarian perspective is the collateral damage it creates both when it fails and when it succeeds.

Health care was to me and is still something I consider to be fundemental aspect of a functional state.  Like a road, it is something which needs to be universally available in order that everyone has an opportunity to succeed in other aspects of life if they choose to try.  The double-edged sword is that like education, it can be 'weaponized' against citizens by the corp/state apparatus as well, but this is drifting off topic.  Suffice it to say, I personally don't equate 'universal health care' to 'socialism' in a simplistic and direct way and Trump may not either.  You are of course free to do as you please but don't blame me for the failures of the Libertarians to gain any traction.

If in some Libertarian economic theory a segment of the population needs to be deprived of health care (or roads or whatever) in order for market forces to perform their voodoo, you are in luck;  even with 'universal access' there are some people who won't use it anyway.  Crazies like me, for instance.

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vokian in the post above provides a fairly obvious explanation for the tweet if it is not a hoax.  Trump has never been shy about how he played the game in his pre-politician days  I thought about pointing this out but doing so would have been out of sync with the content.

[criptix]

I really never thought there would be a Donald j trump cult one day. Lol

It feels like one of this crazy reality TV series 

[Spendulus]

I really never thought there would be a Donald j trump cult one day. Lol

It feels like one of this crazy reality TV series 

The funny thing, is that there is no Trump cult.

That's just how many have fled in his direction from the Bush cult, the Hillary cult, the Sanders cult, etc.

A lot of people who are determined to vote for him seem to not even "like him."

[Masha Sha]

I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

 

She doesn't stand a chance... Time for the demonistas to find another person...

And for those that forgot the barking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZqS7q7voY

Ahahha

[bryant.coleman]

I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

WTF was that? And why Trump is refraining from using this in any of his ads? Hitlery looks like she is possessed by the devil. Seriously... there is something wrong with that lady. It is up to the Americans to decide whether they want someone who suffers from chronic psychosis and schizophrenia as their head of the state.

[Masha Sha]

I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

WTF was that? And why Trump is refraining from using this in any of his ads? Hitlery looks like she is possessed by the devil. Seriously... there is something wrong with that lady. It is up to the Americans to decide whether they want someone who suffers from chronic psychosis and schizophrenia as their head of the state.

Who knows... I don't know if it's good to use it now... one sure thing this one must be massively played... Specially on cnn (what ever the cost). But wouldn't it be better to keep it for just before the vote by mails ballots are send... One or two weeks priors... So end of September or early October... However more than one clip must be prepared... In case one isn't striking enough.

Apparently it would be Parkinson... There were wiki leaked of prescriptions for that.

Time to upgrade...

[Saigon_Bitcoin]

I hear that he had a rough time in the debate last night.  Does anyone know what happened?  I think everyone is starting to attack him more now that he is close to winning.

[Masha Sha]

I hear that he had a rough time in the debate last night.  Does anyone know what happened?  I think everyone is starting to attack him more now that he is close to winning.

I would have no problem if they did the same to the woman... Furthermore I think it will make him stronger. At one point they will run out of attacks .

They have to maintain the illusion of Hillary winning so that the election frauds will be less obvious or at least this is their plans. They have to make the USA go at all costs to impose their global technocracy... Again this is their belief that USA patriotism is their biggest obstacles... They have no ideas about Russians, chineses and Israelis determination not to be ruled by anyone but themselves... This a clear expression of their lack of understanding how the world is. They are locked in their penthouses or gated homes and only see it trough the windows of their jets or their cnn... LoL. They have become mind controlled.

It's so easy to fake the reality perception of people to afraid to go out and see the world...

[Elwar]

I hear that he had a rough time in the debate last night.  Does anyone know what happened?  I think everyone is starting to attack him more now that he is close to winning.

Debates don't start until September 26.

[tvbcof]

I anxiously wait for the first ad featuring Clinton in full meltdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RCW6Xa6d4

WTF was that? And why Trump is refraining from using this in any of his ads? Hitlery looks like she is possessed by the devil. Seriously... there is something wrong with that lady. It is up to the Americans to decide whether they want someone who suffers from chronic psychosis and schizophrenia as their head of the state.

I hate to defend the woman, but I don't think that this and the balloon one which is widely used are necessarily anything more than the woman goofing around.  No big deal in the real world, but this is politics.  Using these puts Hillary on the defensive and she now has to think about everything she does which adds stress.  That is 'fair politics' in my own code of ethics, and it's been very effective.

OTOH, there have been things which I do find bizarre and troubling, and I think there are strong reasons to suspect that the woman really is quite ill or at least not medically fit for the job.  Among these, mixing up 'husband' and 'opponent' when talking about Trump.  Probably the main one was freezing up due to some supposed protester at a speech and having a handler/personal trainer/nurse passing himself off as secret service rush the stage to rescue her by talking her down.  The same dude is noticed lending other assistance, and it looks to me like he might have even injected her with something to snap her out given the way she jumps just before getting back into reality.

Just recently Wikileaks released some more mails showing that 5 years ago Hillary and her top staff were worried enough about her mental issues and 'decision fatigue' to talk about what she might be afflicted with (Parkinson's was mentioned) and what kind of meds she might use to get her out of a funk.

Equally interesting to me, it seems that Hillary avoided modern meds in practice opting for dated varieties to help with thyroid deficiency problems and blood coagulation problems.  It almost seems to me that Hillary and/or her doctor may harbor a dis-trust of the pharma industry and what they are pushing these days.

[Spendulus]

I hear that he had a rough time in the debate last night.  Does anyone know what happened?  I think everyone is starting to attack him more now that he is close to winning.

Debates don't start until September 26.

There was no "rough time" whatsoever in that debate.

[Masha Sha]

 Nice shoes

[BADecker]

Vote Trump?

Principles or pragmatism? A choice that libertarians face numerous times every single day in life.  I am certain that every libertarian chooses pragmatism – not every time they face a choice, but enough times to matter.  We each individually choose when and for what reason we are willing to compromise.  We each decide every day what lines we are willing to cross.

Those who consider themselves the most principled are never shy about abusing those whom they self-righteously judge to be less so – all the while ignoring the planks in their own eyes.

Principle

Myths, Misunderstandings and Outright lies about owning Gold. Are you at risk?

Define a violation of the non-aggression principle.  Murder and robbery are easy.  We disagree on many other issues – are they violations or not?

Define self-defense.  Define aggression.  Define punishment.  All subjective terms.  (This is where that pesky thing is known as "culture" comes in – a real difficult subject for some self-labeled purists to grasp).  Given this…what is principled?  One libertarian's "principled" might be another libertarian's "pragmatic," and neither be "wrong."

Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/08/bionic-mosquito/vote-trump/.

[Elwar]

Donald Trump deserves to be president. Look at all of these helpful charities he donated to:

[Masha Sha]

So still no contests for the best independantly made clip to support the duck? What is going on... I have the feeling that who ever wins its a little bit too late for the USA... So much accumulated fragility.

Generally speaking I think it's too slow... It's only 70+ days... Imagine the numbers of blocks that will have been mined until then...

Time for a visit to a national park, the least visited...

[vokain]

Donald Trump deserves to be president. Look at all of these helpful charities he donated to:

At least he donates.

[Masha Sha]

Donald Trump deserves to be president. Look at all of these helpful charities he donated to:

At least he donates.

How much would it cost to make her fold her bid for the presidency?