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April 01, 2013, 01:40:35 AM
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Every one say no mining for itself, now avalon say maybe they will. Like buying a new car but dealer first use it for taxi service to make extra money. wtf

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April 01, 2013, 01:51:21 AM
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I have a question regarding the bolded statement -- The guy "running the company" isn't the guy who was convicted of mail fraud.

Actually he was running the company.  As soon as it became known who he was and what he'd done they quickly arranged to transfer the CEO title to somebody else.  Go ahead, look it up.

could we get the facts here please? 
assman are you BFL?  if you are congratulations on making so much money on everybody.

if not could we be a bit more considerate and stop spreading misleading information?  please.  its just like why man?  unless you are BFL why muddy up the facts? 

I think ahss man is just really set on getting his jalapeno

I hope he does get his jalapeno for all our sakes. 
because I just invested a bunch of money into bitcoin and I would like to see it grow not disappear. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.0

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April 01, 2013, 02:28:46 AM
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I have a question regarding the bolded statement -- The guy "running the company" isn't the guy who was convicted of mail fraud.

Actually he was running the company.  As soon as it became known who he was and what he'd done they quickly arranged to transfer the CEO title to somebody else.  Go ahead, look it up.

could we get the facts here please? 
assman are you BFL?  if you are congratulations on making so much money on everybody.

if not could we be a bit more considerate and stop spreading misleading information?  please.  its just like why man?  unless you are BFL why muddy up the facts? 

I think ahss man is just really set on getting his jalapeno

I hope he does get his jalapeno for all our sakes. 
because I just invested a bunch of money into bitcoin and I would like to see it grow not disappear. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.0

No, i don't work for BFL. It just gets frustrating seeing the same misinformation and wild speculation posted day after day, and then dips like Pangia or whatever it calls itself trying to come off as some pseudo-intellectual-psychobabbling-hypothetical-pedophile-situation-crafting snob just add to the annoyance factor.

There's two choices regarding BFL:

1) invest and hope for the best
2) don't invest and use your funds elsewhere

either choice, people need to do some research, read informed threads and not fear-mongering farktardery, and make a decision based on their own fact-finding (or lack of facts) that they are comfortable with.

As I said earlier, everything about bitcoin is a risk, a gamble.  The blockchain is the only stable constant in the bitcoin universe, everything else is speculation and guesswork. Will it go up? Will it go down? Will BFL deliver? Will another ASIC vendor pop up that's legit and can ship product? WHO KNOWS? Nobody knows.  All we can do is gather as much info as we can, and then make our best guesses.

These boards are a farking endless goldmine of info, links, "get started" threads, etc, yet day after day we have people like Pangia polluting them with Psych101 B.S., questions being asked over and over again because new people are too lazy or too dumb to use the search function effectively (and if they're too dumb to use a search function, they haven't a hope in hell of understanding bitcoin or the economy surrounding it). 

While new people can only post in Newbies, they have FULL READ ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE FRAKKING FORUM STRUCTURE.  The 4hr online requirement could EASILY be filled reading helpful and informative threads about bitcoin, mining, etc.  But no, we get day after day of "can i mine with my laptop's NVidia POS card?" and "Hey, what kind of GPU mining rig should I build today?"

So yeah, I'm an ass. I'm an ass who spent WEEKS reading and watching and learning before diving in, yet every day new people show up looking to be spoon fed everything about bitcoin.

I certainly do not claim to know all there is to know about bitcoin. Far from it. Hell, I haven't even taken the time to learn how to do PGP authentication/signatures etc yet. When I decide it's important for me to do it, I'll go look it up and figure it out. I sure won't expect someone to hold my hand and walk me through the entire "how to PGP" process.

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April 01, 2013, 02:39:55 AM
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well I don't know where else to speculate.  this is the newbie section we are in, that's pretty funny.  I'm not a newb anymore.  I'm gonna end my part in this conversation here, ahssman your thoughts and insights are appreciated and understandable

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April 01, 2013, 02:51:43 AM
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Not saying don't speculate, I'm suggesting you should go explore the rest of the forums and boards here.  Learn all you can, and then you'll have a basis for well thought-out questions or commentary that hasn't been asked/posted a few dozen times already. 

Every concern you had/have about BFL has been discussed to death many times over on other threads all over bitcointalk.org. They aren't that hard to find with a little effort and determination.

BTW, I wasn't calling YOU, specifically, a noob. I was referring to noobs in general.

Go forth, and bitcoinify.

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April 01, 2013, 03:18:09 AM
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Thanks for the notice.
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April 01, 2013, 03:23:33 AM
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Could BFL be using the the hashing power for a few months, then dump the hardware to the purchases when the mining difficulty goes up?
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April 01, 2013, 03:58:05 AM
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Could BFL be using the the hashing power for a few months, then dump the hardware to the purchases when the mining difficulty goes up?

It would be quite obviously seen on the network.
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April 01, 2013, 06:53:17 AM
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I asked for a refund, waited a week, and got an email today (Sunday) that it was processed. Payment method was paypal.

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April 01, 2013, 07:23:40 AM
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So, BFL little single mining along....
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL

Anyone still think it's a scam?  Want to put your money where your mouth is?
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April 01, 2013, 07:29:20 AM
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Not a scam, just incompetent.
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April 01, 2013, 07:58:28 AM
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anything to do with them choosing 65nm fab process?

so glad I did not waste my money with them.

Quote from: FrictionlessCoin
"I think you are to hung up on this notion about 'pre-mining' being a No-No."
- from journeys into the dark depths of the alt coin forum....
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April 01, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
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So, BFL little single mining along....
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL

Anyone still think it's a scam?  Want to put your money where your mouth is?

Of course they're a scam. Six months late with a short video of a little single SC modded prototype doing less than advertised hashes @ 6x advertised power consumption? ...and what's with the HW errors?

...wanna buy a solar powered clothes dryer...only $1299!

Run away if you haven't already. At this point they should be using some of that pre-order money to lure someone from the Avalon or ASICMiner teams to help them...they're plainly in way over their heads.

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April 01, 2013, 05:49:52 PM
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what a fail of service that was..

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April 01, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
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Agreed @ BFL being a scam.

If you guys paid with your CCs, I would suggest requesting a chargeback within 120 days of your transaction, otherwise you'll be out of luck (assuming it is a scam).

Visa/MC have 120 day limits on chargebacks.
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April 01, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
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Agreed @ BFL being a scam.

If you guys paid with your CCs, I would suggest requesting a chargeback within 120 days of your transaction, otherwise you'll be out of luck (assuming it is a scam).

Visa/MC have 120 day limits on chargebacks.
Willing to put some money down on BFL being a scam?
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April 01, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
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Willing to put some money down on BFL being a scam?

There's lots of that going on  Cheesy
http://betsofbitco.in/search?q=butterfly
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April 01, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
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Agreed @ BFL being a scam.

If you guys paid with your CCs, I would suggest requesting a chargeback within 120 days of your transaction, otherwise you'll be out of luck (assuming it is a scam).

Visa/MC have 120 day limits on chargebacks.
Willing to put some money down on BFL being a scam?

By some definitions, some might say they have already proven to be so.

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April 01, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
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I was really lucky finally i didnt buy the Jalapeño. So sad this BFL scammers got all that BTC
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April 02, 2013, 04:14:08 AM
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Funny, if you DIDNT pre-order in bitcoin when they first announced pre-orders than you could buy their most expensive unit for what you would have paid then for the Jalepeno.

I demanded a refund after the first of the year and recieved less than half what I originally paid, about 11 bitcoins - Those 11 bitcoins three months later can buy a 60gh/s unit

Of course, they promise at least a 2 month lead time from order placement - That's a very long time for such a volatile currency.

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