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October 07, 2012, 03:15:10 PM |
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Would you or somebody else be so kind as to show the proof of the Mt Gox spike? A spike on mtgox doesnt show that nefario has sold coins why is this even relevant? a transaction ID that links a BTC transaction to the GLBSE just before closing would be incriminating. however the person making this claim has in the same post as he made the claim admitted that it is fine to jump to his own concllusions with no evidence therefore IMO weaking his own allegations. If he is going to make allegations such as this after discrediting himself he should need to provide evidence if he is to be taken seriously. Are you ignorant or have you just not read my posts? I am guessing he is converting btc to fiat and OMG OMG OMG WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT YOU ARE GUESSING AND YOU THINK THIS You keep thinking I am admitting to jumping to my own conclusions. I wasn't admitting anything, I was clarifying what my original statement was to you.
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October 07, 2012, 04:07:50 PM |
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Just gather some private investment and dont allow public trading of the shares. Thats how the company that runs glbse itself functions.
Nice to see you were shitting all over MPEx while being secretly involved with the Global Scam Exchange, you despicable shill you. Yeah pot WTF WHY YOU SO BLACK, Kettles like me would never be that black. You're a little confused, aren't you. The guy was withholding his relationship while making false claims about MPEx. Just like that MrBiggs failpiece. I was never withholding my relationship while making factual claims about GLBSE.
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jasinlee
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October 07, 2012, 04:10:54 PM |
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You do however constantly ignore questions about the pron that is hosted on the domain that is beyond forgiveness. Why would you even be willing to work with a company that hosts child porn. Its disgusting, and I doubt you will even respond to this post.
I would count that as withholding your relationship.
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October 07, 2012, 04:15:07 PM |
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child porn
oO What the fuck... such persons are here?
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Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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jasinlee
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October 07, 2012, 04:15:55 PM |
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The owner of mpex hosts it on his servers. Just search the forums lots of people reference it.
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theymos (OP)
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October 07, 2012, 04:19:39 PM |
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Actually he was asked to send the coins to CHM before the meeting, when he said he was going to sell his shares.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
bitcoin.me is a BitcoinGlobal shareholder who is clearly being fed lies by Nefario. Nefario previously asked me to send him the entire treasury because I was selling my shares. I refused because I am still the treasurer and it is my duty to hold the funds and dispense them according to shareholder motions until I am no longer treasurer. The recent motion was to send the funds to BitcoinGlobal's accountant, ColdHardMetal. He never sent me an address because he's uncomfortable with handling such large amounts of BTC. CHM just sent an email to all shareholders about this.
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October 07, 2012, 04:27:01 PM |
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Regarding the 800BTC you hold. When he really still would hold 8000BTC why should he need the 800BTC? Didnt he want them for lawyer cost? And doesnt this imply that he doesnt even has 800BTC to pay the lawyer? Or you think he only want them to put them into his new project?
He doesn't need the 800 BTC to start paying back users. Others say you should send it to ColdHardMetal and not to nefario. Whats correct? I'm to send it to ColdHardMetal, who will presumably send it to Nefario at some point. So you mean 4-5 shareholders have the password and 2-3 would make a backup? That would be cool if it happens because then it doesnt all depend on nefario. In case he runs crazy we would have still the list of assets owned by what person. Even better 2 shareholders independently downloaded the datebase so that not one shareholder could manipulate it and we could compare. So if possible i would try this. Just in case. Nefario encrypted his entire password database with a shared key using Shamir's secret sharing. 4 out of the 5 shareholders Nefario selected would need to agree in order to access the database at all. There aren't enough people in agreement. And is that correct then theymos? Or dont you think its the correct address? I mean its not hard to guess who are the shareholder in the thread and i dont see your actions here as if you want to scam. But hearing that usermoney isnt sent while you could do probably could be a bit worrying for persons that hold money at glbse.
This is not true.
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October 07, 2012, 04:33:46 PM |
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Actually he was asked to send the coins to CHM before the meeting, when he said he was going to sell his shares.
He refused because he wanted to hand them over to the new guy who bought his shares or whoever took over his position.
bitcoin.me is a BitcoinGlobal shareholder who is clearly being fed lies by Nefario. Nefario previously asked me to send him the entire treasury because I was selling my shares. I refused because I am still the treasurer and it is my duty to hold the funds and dispense them according to shareholder motions until I am no longer treasurer. The recent motion was to send the funds to BitcoinGlobal's accountant, ColdHardMetal. He never sent me an address because he's uncomfortable with handling such large amounts of BTC. CHM just sent an email to all shareholders about this. theymos, have you discussed on your shareholders' meeting about why GLBSE don't just use the exiting trading platform to return the bitcoin to its users? why he create the trouble and delay to start another new system to return the bitcoin?
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October 07, 2012, 04:35:30 PM |
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theymos, have you discussed on your shareholders' meeting about why GLBSE don't just use the exiting trading platform to return the bitcoin to its users? why he create the trouble and delay to start another new system to return the bitcoin?
He wants to require AML info before allowing withdrawals.
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October 07, 2012, 05:01:18 PM |
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Does anyone have the glbse account address so we can check it against blockchain and find that tx?
http://blockchain.info/address/1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nwMy 50 BTC deposit is still sitting in this address. I believe this is the small fund that Theymos controls (or a part of it). Earlier Theymos was very careful to say that these are anonymous user funds and do not belong to any user in particular, and that if he ends up distributing them to users, that it will be a fair and equitable distribution among all users. This seems fair to me. I will not insist that my deposit be returned to me in full while other users go empty-handed just because of where it happened to end up. When considering who you want to trust to hold and distribute these funds, consider the behavior of the involved parties so far. I don't think you'll need to look far to realize who has been forthright with us, engaged us, and given us reasonable answers, and who has told us nothing and made demands that make little sense if the intent were to actually repay users, but make lots if sense if the intent is to abscond with all of the user funds. Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint:
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October 07, 2012, 06:09:00 PM |
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I honestly can't follow this saga fast enough.
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If you love me, you'd give me a Satoshi! BTC - 1MSzGKh5znbrcEF2qTrtrWBm4ydH5eT49f LTC - LYeJrmYQQvt6gRQxrDz66XTwtkdodx9udz
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October 07, 2012, 06:09:24 PM |
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Does anyone have the glbse account address so we can check it against blockchain and find that tx?
http://blockchain.info/address/1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nwMy 50 BTC deposit is still sitting in this address. I believe this is the small fund that Theymos controls (or a part of it). Earlier Theymos was very careful to say that these are anonymous user funds and do not belong to any user in particular, and that if he ends up distributing them to users, that it will be a fair and equitable distribution among all users. This seems fair to me. I will not insist that my deposit be returned to me in full while other users go empty-handed just because of where it happened to end up. When considering who you want to trust to hold and distribute these funds, consider the behavior of the involved parties so far. I don't think you'll need to look far to realize who has been forthright with us, engaged us, and given us reasonable answers, and who has told us nothing and made demands that make little sense if the intent were to actually repay users, but make lots if sense if the intent is to abscond with all of the user funds. Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint: Felt your post needed to be unburried from the bottom of the page
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October 07, 2012, 06:42:36 PM |
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There are a few accounts with large number of BTC that have received from the account Bogart linked to.
Any more clues to be had out there? Nefario, that wallet that you have control of... can you confirm it's wallet address? Can you confirm that it has received and/or sent funds to the wallets that Nefario has control of?
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October 07, 2012, 07:15:14 PM |
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You do however constantly ignore questions about the pron that is hosted on the domain that is beyond forgiveness. Why would you even be willing to work with a company that hosts child porn. Its disgusting, and I doubt you will even respond to this post.
I would count that as withholding your relationship.
I ignore a lot of stupid shit. A bunch of forum retards repeating stupid shit doesn't make it any less stupid.
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jasinlee
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October 07, 2012, 07:23:12 PM |
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For example, if I had a host who happened to be on the same server as 4chan, I would move my site especially if I was personally acquainted with the owner like you.
There is a difference between allowing unhindered freedom of speech on a site/image board/forum, but even criminals in maximum security prisons hate child molesters and you have willingly associated yourself with someone who supports them. You say there is none on the server? The reason no one wants to check is because sites of that style attract pedophiles like flies since they have no chance of being caught. I would suggest you move your defense to its own thread, no one is going to check your story and neither will I, the server is a cesspool and I like many others would not want to be apart of it even if it is only somewhat true.
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October 07, 2012, 07:25:13 PM |
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Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint:
If it is any help here is the address of last deposit I made into GLBSE. http://blockchain.info/address/15Va2FL7bHvzcNZMy5xt66fSS3H34TRLJN?filter=1It was for 22.3377BTC. The deposit was made on Sunday but the funds were not credited to my balance and I had to chase this up with support and this was added to my account balance on Tuesday by Nefario. The funds were moved on the 2nd that would probably be when they were credited to my balance. I dont know where they go from there.
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jasinlee
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October 07, 2012, 07:30:45 PM |
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I wonder if they are in a cold wallet by now.
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October 07, 2012, 07:32:48 PM |
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I wonder if they are in a cold wallet by now.
It is not moved into any address with a larger amount it is actually broken into smaller chunks on th 4th, 5th and 6th Oct.
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October 07, 2012, 07:34:08 PM |
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Yeah and that usually indicates laundering, but there should be even smaller chunks than that too, but I dont see them.
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