Nefario

[Otoh]

gigavps received asset list  

To all Gigaminers:

Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.

This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.

Best regards,
gigavps

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[EskimoBob]

I had a chat with James and hes is releasing about 4 assets per day.
Sunshine!
And now, please send him the flowers too
 

[SebastianJu]

I had a chat with James and hes is releasing about 4 assets per day.
Sunshine!
And now, please send him the flowers too

Puremining got a list of its asset holders so are you serious about this? Would be great. Regarding the flowers... do you have the address? And the phonenumber you have isnt the one from whois of glbse.com? If so could you send the phonenumber to me via pm?

Thanks!

Given what's happened, shouldn't the other shareholders (theymos included) be held liable?

Why? They are cut out and cant do anything even if they want. And they lost all the money they invested to buy shares of glbse...

That is actually interesting, I'd guess the likelihood of a number being turned off at all times would increase if it belonged to someone a lot of angry people were constantly trying to contact.

I think so too.

[DutchBrat]

http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

Starting with the biggest issuer first in descending order

[SebastianJu]

But I have yet to get my coins so did they just skip some people or I guess I am not getting my coins back.

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer. So to prevent such claims he starts now to give out asset infos.
And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too. Only my thoughts about this. At least something is moving and he is speaking again.

Thanks eskimobob if you had a good influence in this.

[EuroTrash]

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer.

He IS a scammer.
You can call him a SELECTIVE scammer if you want.
Still a scammer he is.

And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too.

once more, I got no email asking me to return my tiny double payment.

[novusordo]

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer.

He IS a scammer.
You can call him a SELECTIVE scammer if you want.
Still a scammer he is.

And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too.

once more, I got no email asking me to return my tiny double payment.

He handled the situation poorly, and I think most of the reactions within the community were justified. However, let's wait until the dust settles, shall we? If he ends up fulfilling all of his obligations in the end, he certainly isn't a scammer.

[Bitcoin Oz]

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer.

He IS a scammer.
You can call him a SELECTIVE scammer if you want.
Still a scammer he is.

And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too.

once more, I got no email asking me to return my tiny double payment.

He handled the situation poorly, and I think most of the reactions within the community were justified. However, let's wait until the dust settles, shall we? If he ends up fulfilling all of his obligations in the end, he certainly isn't a scammer.

He got the scammer label for shutting down glbse without an approved motion by the owners of the site and reducing its value to 0 thus causing them a massive loss in both bitcoins and reputation. He has some work to do to resolve that situation satisfactorily and get the label removed.

[MPOE-PR]

He handled the situation poorly, and I think most of the reactions within the community were justified. However, let's wait until the dust settles, shall we? If he ends up fulfilling all of his obligations in the end, he certainly isn't a scammer.

The problem with obligations that are time sensitive is that once they're late they can never really be "fulfilled".

[darkmule]

And they lost all the money they invested to buy shares of glbse...

Whenever I see "glbse" I read it as "goatse."  Kind of appropriate, I guess.

[novusordo]

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer.

He IS a scammer.
You can call him a SELECTIVE scammer if you want.
Still a scammer he is.

And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too.

once more, I got no email asking me to return my tiny double payment.

He handled the situation poorly, and I think most of the reactions within the community were justified. However, let's wait until the dust settles, shall we? If he ends up fulfilling all of his obligations in the end, he certainly isn't a scammer.

He got the scammer label for shutting down glbse without an approved motion by the owners of the site and reducing its value to 0 thus causing them a massive loss in both bitcoins and reputation. He has some work to do to resolve that situation satisfactorily and get the label removed.

Yeah, I agree with that. Shutting down the company with no shareholder vote was simply idiotic. To clarify, I mean that he isn't scamming the users of GLBSE if he gives them back all their bitcoins and asset info. It dances dangerously close because of the time that has passed, but I can think of no reason that he would do this for personal gain (other than avoiding legal trouble, which isn't only for personal gain because if Nefario gets sent to jail, GLBSE users would likely get zilch.)

[Bitcoin Oz]

It wasnt a problem when he started glbse and took peoples money....

[memvola]

He handled the situation poorly, and I think most of the reactions within the community were justified. However, let's wait until the dust settles, shall we? If he ends up fulfilling all of his obligations in the end, he certainly isn't a scammer.

The problem with obligations that are time sensitive is that once they're late they can never really be "fulfilled".

Well, technically the loss could be compensated, but it won't happen.

[MPOE-PR]

Well, technically the loss could be compensated, but it won't happen.

Right you are, on both counts.

[SebastianJu]

I think thats his reaction to claims that he is a scammer.

He IS a scammer.
You can call him a SELECTIVE scammer if you want.
Still a scammer he is.

And i think he didnt get all the double payment back yet. So he cant pay all the remaining btc back yet. Probably he want to exclude the persons that hold double payments hostage from the asset infos so they can see that they should pay back. When they do he will pay back your money too.

once more, I got no email asking me to return my tiny double payment.

He can be named a scammer in regards for killing the value of glbse for the shareholders. But i meant the claims that told him a scammer because he wont pay the user btc of glbse and give the asset info. He had to do something against these accusations. And i feel its a good sign that he override his own rule for that. He said before that the asset infos only will go out after the user btc are out. He did it another way now to block the accusations in my opinion.

That you didnt got an email about the double payment is something i think isnt a good sign too. So i have two explainations for this behaviour. He strictly goes one by one or he only goes for the bigger double payments to save time and afford. Because tiny double payments make the same work.

Im not sure what it is but at least somethings moving.

[SebastianJu]

nefario added the payment address for double payments: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1282045#msg1282045

In case someone has a double payment and isnt included in asset infos given to issuer maybe try that and email nefario then with a matching topic that attracts his attention like: "I paid back double payment!!!" or similar so that he will read it.

[EuroTrash]

In case someone has a double payment and isnt included in asset infos given to issuer maybe try that and email nefario then with a matching topic that attracts his attention like: "I paid back double payment!!!" or similar so that he will read it.

You forgot the additional requirement. Let me fix that.

To get your asset infos released to issuers in the email to Nefario please attach a picture of yourself, naked, wearing fishnet stockings while handstand walking. But please wear a guy fawkes mask - on your face not other body parts - so that your real identity is protected.

IMPORTANT! Only submissions where both the mask's moustaches are pointing UPWARDS AND the fishnet stockings are PINK coloured will be considered.

Sorry I feel funny today.

[Smoovious]

You forgot the additional requirement. Let me fix that.

To get your asset infos released to issuers in the email to Nefario please attach a picture of yourself, naked, wearing fishnet stockings while handstand walking. But please wear a guy fawkes mask - on your face not other body parts - so that your real identity is protected.

IMPORTANT! Only submissions where both the mask's moustaches are pointing UPWARDS AND the fishnet stockings are PINK coloured will be considered.

Sorry I feel funny today.

Crap... I never could walk on my hands... guess I'm screwed...

-- Smoov

[MPOE-PR]

Crap... I never could walk on my hands... guess I'm screwed...

-- Smoov

So don't walk on your own hands. The best walking is done on other people's hands.

[RHA]

Nov 22 / 5:28am  Issers who have been given lists so far
by James McCarthy

GIGAMINING
BITBOND
YABMC
FPGAMINING
PUREMINING
YARR
COGNITIVE
BTC-MINING
ZETA-MINING
IBB

These lists are not 100% complete, users who have not claimed their GLBSE account, and users who have not returned the double payment of bitcoin have not been included.

I'm still currently working with users who have lost their login details and issuer lists.

Nov 22 / 11:15am  Refunding double payments and getting your assets.
by James McCarthy

I've gotten a LOT of emails in the last 24 hours from users who got a double payment and they have not returned it yet.

I will contact you all tomorrow with an individual payment address, and we can get you onto your issuers shareholders lists.

For anyone who has not already contacted me, please email the address you were overpaid to at james@glbse.com

Please be patient, thank you.