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[jaberwock]

I think Bayern's management is also very aware of this, they really need a single striker like Lewandowski and in fact Kane is a suitable candidate, but does Bayern not have other candidates who might have the potential to become the next Lewandowski, there must be a lot  another, less exposed striker who could be a substitute for Lewandowski.

Sadio Mane has pretty much damaged his career by joining Bayern Munich. Because it was at Liverpool that the game performed incredibly well and his career progressed tremendously. But his performance at Bayern Munich has not been noticeable so far.

Most people do not realize this but Klopp makes these players better, sure they are good players but he utilizes them to the peak point and that is why he is such a great manager, sure he wasn't that great this season so it is not going to be the same, but he definitely utilized Mane amazingly until he left.

This meant that even though he is a good player, nobody could have made him as good and that is exactly what happened, at Bayern he ended up maybe getting paid more, which I am not even sure about, but he didn't really get to play that great. Now let's see where he leaves, because I can't see him staying here and he will probably go to a smaller team and get paid worse, if he stayed at Liverpool both him and the team could had a better season.

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Bayern Munich was lucky this season not to lose the last game they had this season otherwise they could easily lose the title and Dortmund could take their place thanks to the mistakes Dortmund had in this season, Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga title for another time.

True, bayern will not be winning any trophies if the last match was not lucky enough. I meant bayern was almost trophyless this season. that being said that if bayern is almost losing bundesliga trophy but bayern was lucky caused by dortmund face difficulty in the last match to win the trophy.

Tuchel was lucky enough caused by he was almost making bayern became trophy less. mainz was helping bayern so much caused by it was able to perform very well against bayern.

I don't even know how mad bayern fans once tuchel was not able giving at least one trophy to the bayern. It will be so hard to imagine it happen with bayern.
Bayern is now dominating bundesliga for more than 1 decade. This is a true farmer league. Bayern is always winning the trophy.

Well, in this sense, whether it's luck or not , I think it's the champions and that due to everything that can be seen, the team has to strengthen itself so that it can perform in the Bundesliga , if we go to another scheme , Dortmund wants to leave this time with everything, but we must not only focus on Bayern and Dortmund , because we have Union Berlin, and we have the other teams , this Bundesliga was not boring as some have described it and from what I see they did not want Bayern to win, but here It was noted that it took a lot of work to win and that in that sense it is not boring , this next season will be very , very exciting.

Bayer Munich has claimed their 11th Bundesliga title in a row with Tuchel on the managerial sit. I will not forget that the line that led to this success was initially drawn by Naggelsman the et of this season aside that the success wouldn't have come to fruition.  Bayer performance with Thomas Tuchel can tell that Bayer Munich owes naggelsmann an applaud.
Judging from the struggles they had in the just concluded tournament, It might be difficult for Bayern in the next season if Tuchel doesn't strengthen the squad with new mindset.

It is true that Nagelsmann's role as coach of Bayern Munich at the start of the season until he was replaced by Tuchel at the end of the season made his services enormous in helping Bayern Munich lift the 11th Bundesliga trophy in a row. In my opinion, what Tuchel did was just continue the struggle of Nagelsmann, who was previously sacked, and he (Tuchel) should not be proud of this title because his initial journey as coach of Bayern Munich will begin next season. Now the bundesliga is getting more competitive if we look at the team competition this season and if Tuchel can't make good on what Nagelsmann did then Bayern Munich may fail to defend the title.

Although Thomas Tuchel was instrumental in guiding Bayern Munich to their 11th straight Bundesliga championship Julian Nagelsmann was a major factor in the team early season success. Tuchel entrance signalled a smooth changeover keeping up the pace and successfully carrying out his tactical strategy. Although Nagelsmann provided the foundation it is admirable that Tuchel was able to adapt and build on his predecessor efforts. It is important to understand that every coach brings their own perspective and approach and that next season is when Thomas Tuchel journey as Bayern Munich coach really begins. It is Tuchel obligation to negotiate the obstacles that lie ahead as the Bundesliga becomes more and more competitive.

Nagelsmann accomplishments should not be used to evaluate Tuchel performance because Tuchel has the opportunity to make his mark on the team. Only time will tell how things turn out therefore it would be premature to assume Bayern Munich will not be able to successfully defend their championship on the basis of this change alone.

What Julian Nagelsmann did was build all the way, to me honestly when I saw the news that he had been fired and in a match near the UCL he told me, that Oliver Khan is honestly crazy, how can he do something like that? and with such an elementary kick that came to him? but the results were evident, I am not saying that Tuchel is not at the level, but I believe that another coach would have done better, perhaps he would have seduced Zidane and listened to his demands, if that was the case, I think Bayern would have used He has come much further than he did this time, obviously he has not suffered in the Bundesliga and why not? They would have won the UCL.

Bayer Munich has claimed their 11th Bundesliga title in a row with Tuchel on the managerial sit. I will not forget that the line that led to this success was initially drawn by Naggelsman the et of this season aside that the success wouldn't have come to fruition.  Bayer performance with Thomas Tuchel can tell that Bayer Munich owes naggelsmann an applaud.
Judging from the struggles they had in the just concluded tournament, It might be difficult for Bayern in the next season if Tuchel doesn't strengthen the squad with new mindset.

It is true that Nagelsmann's role as coach of Bayern Munich at the start of the season until he was replaced by Tuchel at the end of the season made his services enormous in helping Bayern Munich lift the 11th Bundesliga trophy in a row. In my opinion, what Tuchel did was just continue the struggle of Nagelsmann, who was previously sacked, and he (Tuchel) should not be proud of this title because his initial journey as coach of Bayern Munich will begin next season. Now the bundesliga is getting more competitive if we look at the team competition this season and if Tuchel can't make good on what Nagelsmann did then Bayern Munich may fail to defend the title.

Although Thomas Tuchel was instrumental in guiding Bayern Munich to their 11th straight Bundesliga championship Julian Nagelsmann was a major factor in the team early season success. Tuchel entrance signalled a smooth changeover keeping up the pace and successfully carrying out his tactical strategy. Although Nagelsmann provided the foundation it is admirable that Tuchel was able to adapt and build on his predecessor efforts. It is important to understand that every coach brings their own perspective and approach and that next season is when Thomas Tuchel journey as Bayern Munich coach really begins. It is Tuchel obligation to negotiate the obstacles that lie ahead as the Bundesliga becomes more and more competitive.

Nagelsmann accomplishments should not be used to evaluate Tuchel performance because Tuchel has the opportunity to make his mark on the team. Only time will tell how things turn out therefore it would be premature to assume Bayern Munich will not be able to successfully defend their championship on the basis of this change alone.

What Julian Nagelsmann did was build all the way, to me honestly when I saw the news that he had been fired and in a match near the UCL he told me, that Oliver Khan is honestly crazy , how can he do something like that ? and with such an elementary kick that came to him? but the Results were Evident, I am not saying that Tuchel is not at the level, but I believe that another coach would have done better, perhaps he would have seduced Zidane and listened to his Demands, if that was the case, I think Bayern would have used He has come much further than he did this time , Obviously he has not Suffered in the Bundesliga and why not? They would have Won the UCL.

I think Bayern's management is also very aware of this, they really need a single striker like Lewandowski and in fact Kane is a suitable candidate, but does Bayern not have other candidates who might have the potential to become the next Lewandowski, there must be a lot  another, less exposed striker who could be a substitute for Lewandowski.

Sadio Mane has pretty much damaged his career by joining Bayern Munich. Because it was at Liverpool that the game performed incredibly well and his career progressed tremendously. But his performance at Bayern Munich has not been noticeable so far.

Most people do not realize this but Klopp makes these players better, sure they are good players but he utilizes them to the peak point and that is why he is such a great manager, sure he wasn't that great this season so it is not going to be the same, but he definitely utilized Mane amazingly until he left.

This meant that even though he is a good player, nobody could have made him as good and that is exactly what happened, at Bayern he ended up maybe getting paid more, which I am not even sure about, but he didn't really get to play that great. Now let's see where he leaves, because I can't see him staying here and he will probably go to a smaller team and get paid worse, if he stayed at Liverpool both him and the team could had a better season.

Wow, this, for me Bayern's first mistake was letting Lewa go and the second mistake was firing Julian as coach, those were the mistakes that marked this team, I don't know if there's another way to say it without It hurts so much, but Bayern sought what they are experiencing, they almost lost the Bundesliga and that is something they did not have planned, suffering in that way is something they had to avoid, now in this next season they will not They'll look just as strong as before, I think this kind of thing will give it the spiciness we all want.

and:

BFW Postseason Breakdown: Bayern Munich’s Most Wanted Transfer In

It’s that time again!

Bayern Munich’s season is over and now we are left to debate what went right, what went wrong, and how everyone ended up in this place.

The BFW Postseason Breakdown will cover many of the controversial topics and talking points that emerged via the categories we will present for you to vote on.

Let’s not waste any more time and you can get down to it...

Source: https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2023/6/12/23741749/bfw-postseason-breakdown-bayern-munich-most-wanted-transfer-in-rice-vlahovic-osimhen-kane-muani

[keyscore44]

Bayern Munich was lucky this season not to lose the last game they had this season otherwise they could easily lose the title and Dortmund could take their place thanks to the mistakes Dortmund had in this season, Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga title for another time.

True, bayern will not be winning any trophies if the last match was not lucky enough. I meant bayern was almost trophyless this season. that being said that if bayern is almost losing bundesliga trophy but bayern was lucky caused by dortmund face difficulty in the last match to win the trophy.

Tuchel was lucky enough caused by he was almost making bayern became trophy less. mainz was helping bayern so much caused by it was able to perform very well against bayern.

I don't even know how mad bayern fans once tuchel was not able giving at least one trophy to the bayern. It will be so hard to imagine it happen with bayern.
Bayern is now dominating bundesliga for more than 1 decade. This is a true farmer league. Bayern is always winning the trophy.

Well, in this sense, whether it's luck or not , I think it's the champions and that due to everything that can be seen, the team has to strengthen itself so that it can perform in the Bundesliga , if we go to another scheme , Dortmund wants to leave this time with everything, but we must not only focus on Bayern and Dortmund , because we have Union Berlin, and we have the other teams , this Bundesliga was not boring as some have described it and from what I see they did not want Bayern to win, but here It was noted that it took a lot of work to win and that in that sense it is not boring , this next season will be very , very exciting.

Bayer Munich has claimed their 11th Bundesliga title in a row with Tuchel on the managerial sit. I will not forget that the line that led to this success was initially drawn by Naggelsman the et of this season aside that the success wouldn't have come to fruition.  Bayer performance with Thomas Tuchel can tell that Bayer Munich owes naggelsmann an applaud.
Judging from the struggles they had in the just concluded tournament, It might be difficult for Bayern in the next season if Tuchel doesn't strengthen the squad with new mindset.

It is true that Nagelsmann's role as coach of Bayern Munich at the start of the season until he was replaced by Tuchel at the end of the season made his services enormous in helping Bayern Munich lift the 11th Bundesliga trophy in a row. In my opinion, what Tuchel did was just continue the struggle of Nagelsmann, who was previously sacked, and he (Tuchel) should not be proud of this title because his initial journey as coach of Bayern Munich will begin next season. Now the bundesliga is getting more competitive if we look at the team competition this season and if Tuchel can't make good on what Nagelsmann did then Bayern Munich may fail to defend the title.

Although Thomas Tuchel was instrumental in guiding Bayern Munich to their 11th straight Bundesliga championship Julian Nagelsmann was a major factor in the team early season success. Tuchel entrance signalled a smooth changeover keeping up the pace and successfully carrying out his tactical strategy. Although Nagelsmann provided the foundation it is admirable that Tuchel was able to adapt and build on his predecessor efforts. It is important to understand that every coach brings their own perspective and approach and that next season is when Thomas Tuchel journey as Bayern Munich coach really begins. It is Tuchel obligation to negotiate the obstacles that lie ahead as the Bundesliga becomes more and more competitive.

Nagelsmann accomplishments should not be used to evaluate Tuchel performance because Tuchel has the opportunity to make his mark on the team. Only time will tell how things turn out therefore it would be premature to assume Bayern Munich will not be able to successfully defend their championship on the basis of this change alone.

What Julian Nagelsmann did was build all the way, to me honestly when I saw the news that he had been fired and in a match near the UCL he told me, that Oliver Khan is honestly crazy, how can he do something like that? and with such an elementary kick that came to him? but the results were evident, I am not saying that Tuchel is not at the level, but I believe that another coach would have done better, perhaps he would have seduced Zidane and listened to his demands, if that was the case, I think Bayern would have used He has come much further than he did this time, obviously he has not suffered in the Bundesliga and why not? They would have won the UCL.

Bayer Munich has claimed their 11th Bundesliga title in a row with Tuchel on the managerial sit. I will not forget that the line that led to this success was initially drawn by Naggelsman the et of this season aside that the success wouldn't have come to fruition.  Bayer performance with Thomas Tuchel can tell that Bayer Munich owes naggelsmann an applaud.
Judging from the struggles they had in the just concluded tournament, It might be difficult for Bayern in the next season if Tuchel doesn't strengthen the squad with new mindset.

It is true that Nagelsmann's role as coach of Bayern Munich at the start of the season until he was replaced by Tuchel at the end of the season made his services enormous in helping Bayern Munich lift the 11th Bundesliga trophy in a row. In my opinion, what Tuchel did was just continue the struggle of Nagelsmann, who was previously sacked, and he (Tuchel) should not be proud of this title because his initial journey as coach of Bayern Munich will begin next season. Now the bundesliga is getting more competitive if we look at the team competition this season and if Tuchel can't make good on what Nagelsmann did then Bayern Munich may fail to defend the title.

Although Thomas Tuchel was instrumental in guiding Bayern Munich to their 11th straight Bundesliga championship Julian Nagelsmann was a major factor in the team early season success. Tuchel entrance signalled a smooth changeover keeping up the pace and successfully carrying out his tactical strategy. Although Nagelsmann provided the foundation it is admirable that Tuchel was able to adapt and build on his predecessor efforts. It is important to understand that every coach brings their own perspective and approach and that next season is when Thomas Tuchel journey as Bayern Munich coach really begins. It is Tuchel obligation to negotiate the obstacles that lie ahead as the Bundesliga becomes more and more competitive.

Nagelsmann accomplishments should not be used to evaluate Tuchel performance because Tuchel has the opportunity to make his mark on the team. Only time will tell how things turn out therefore it would be premature to assume Bayern Munich will not be able to successfully defend their championship on the basis of this change alone.

What Julian Nagelsmann did was build all the way, to me honestly when I saw the news that he had been fired and in a match near the UCL he told me, that Oliver Khan is honestly crazy , how can he do something like that ? and with such an elementary kick that came to him? but the Results were Evident, I am not saying that Tuchel is not at the level, but I believe that another coach would have done better, perhaps he would have seduced Zidane and listened to his Demands, if that was the case, I think Bayern would have used He has come much further than he did this time , Obviously he has not Suffered in the Bundesliga and why not? They would have Won the UCL.

I think Bayern's management is also very aware of this, they really need a single striker like Lewandowski and in fact Kane is a suitable candidate, but does Bayern not have other candidates who might have the potential to become the next Lewandowski, there must be a lot  another, less exposed striker who could be a substitute for Lewandowski.

Sadio Mane has pretty much damaged his career by joining Bayern Munich. Because it was at Liverpool that the game performed incredibly well and his career progressed tremendously. But his performance at Bayern Munich has not been noticeable so far.

Most people do not realize this but Klopp makes these players better, sure they are good players but he utilizes them to the peak point and that is why he is such a great manager, sure he wasn't that great this season so it is not going to be the same, but he definitely utilized Mane amazingly until he left.

This meant that even though he is a good player, nobody could have made him as good and that is exactly what happened, at Bayern he ended up maybe getting paid more, which I am not even sure about, but he didn't really get to play that great. Now let's see where he leaves, because I can't see him staying here and he will probably go to a smaller team and get paid worse, if he stayed at Liverpool both him and the team could had a better season.

Wow, this, for me Bayern's first mistake was letting Lewa go and the second mistake was firing Julian as coach, those were the mistakes that marked this team, I don't know if there's another way to say it without It hurts so much, but Bayern sought what they are experiencing, they almost lost the Bundesliga and that is something they did not have planned, suffering in that way is something they had to avoid, now in this next season they will not They'll look just as strong as before, I think this kind of thing will give it the spiciness we all want.

and:

BFW Postseason Breakdown: Bayern Munich’s Most Wanted Transfer In

It’s that time again!

Bayern Munich’s season is over and now we are left to debate what went right, what went wrong, and how everyone ended up in this place.

The BFW Postseason Breakdown will cover many of the controversial topics and talking points that emerged via the categories we will present for you to vote on.

Let’s not waste any more time and you can get down to it...

Source: https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2023/6/12/23741749/bfw-postseason-breakdown-bayern-munich-most-wanted-transfer-in-rice-vlahovic-osimhen-kane-muani

The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.

[bering]

Sadio Mane couldn't give quite the expected performance when he played as a centre-forward. And it is totally normal as well. Because he isn't naturally a centre-forward. Besides he has much more different characteristics than Lewandowski. The thing Bayern Munich need now is to sign a complete forward like Lewandowski. This can help them seriously about pulling themselves together.

Choupo-Moting tried to do some good things there but it wasn't enough unfortunately. Bayern Munich need a more reliable striker immediately. If Mane play as a left winger as well then their attacking line would be really strong.

This is not the best season for Sadio Mane that when he was decide moved to Bayern Munich apparently this is his biggest mistakes in his career because at Bayern Munich Mane cannot able to performing well and for Choupo-Moting this season he is Bayern top scorer with 17 goals in all competitions but unfortunately he was got long injured which make his performance is not consistent but Choupo-Moting has a contract until 2024 and probably Bayerns wouldn't give him high priority again because his current age is 34 years old and usually Bayern wouldn't giving long duration contract to the players who has reach to 30 years old or more

So in my opinion Choupo-Moting most likely will leave after season 2024 ended I am sure Bayern main concern currently will find new striker and last time i heard they were targetting Frankfurt player Randal Kolo Muani and this player was playing impressive with Frankfurt and he can able to scores 23 goals in all competitions

[tulusikhlas]

Sadio Mane couldn't give quite the expected performance when he played as a centre-forward. And it is totally normal as well. Because he isn't naturally a centre-forward. Besides he has much more different characteristics than Lewandowski. The thing Bayern Munich need now is to sign a complete forward like Lewandowski. This can help them seriously about pulling themselves together.

Choupo-Moting tried to do some good things there but it wasn't enough unfortunately. Bayern Munich need a more reliable striker immediately. If Mane play as a left winger as well then their attacking line would be really strong.

Sadio Mane was expected to be a replacement for Lewandowski, but it's a shame he failed to give his best and I have to say he hasn't been able to replace Lewandowski on the front lines. At first I thought it was just a matter of time, but it turned out that until the season ended I didn't see the game I expected him to show with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich must evaluate their front line.

[asriloni]

50+1 still becomes a controversy. It's caused by other leagues have been getting so many investors while the regulation 50+1 in the bundesliga was preventing billion of money to go in to the bundesliga clubs.

So many speculations about that regulation will make bundesliga will not be able to be a competitive league like other league which was not implementing such regulation.

What do you guys think about 50+1 rule now? Is still important for bundesliga or not? 50+1 regulation was pushing the fans to own the majority of shares in the club.

[hahay]

Sadio Mane couldn't give quite the expected performance when he played as a centre-forward. And it is totally normal as well. Because he isn't naturally a centre-forward. Besides he has much more different characteristics than Lewandowski. The thing Bayern Munich need now is to sign a complete forward like Lewandowski. This can help them seriously about pulling themselves together.

Choupo-Moting tried to do some good things there but it wasn't enough unfortunately. Bayern Munich need a more reliable striker immediately. If Mane play as a left winger as well then their attacking line would be really strong.

Sadio Mane was expected to be a replacement for Lewandowski, but it's a shame he failed to give his best and I have to say he hasn't been able to replace Lewandowski on the front lines. At first I thought it was just a matter of time, but it turned out that until the season ended I didn't see the game I expected him to show with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich must evaluate their front line.

If it is true that they recruited Mane to replace Lewandowski, then of course that would be a mistake. Because after all, in terms of body and style of play they are also very different, so of course if they put Mane in the same position as Lewandowski and don't change tactics then Mane will not be able to completely replace Lewandowski's role. But yes, if later Tuchel can have newer and fresher tactics and strategies by adjusting the players in the squad, then I think Bayern Munich's current squad is also good so they don't have to recruit many new players anymore.

[Fesatmas]

The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.

Victory is in sight for Dortmund, they only have one last game to win the Bundesliga title this season, but who knows what happened and what are the factors that made them fail to win the match that became the decider. Everyone including the fans was very confident that Dortmund would be the title holders this season, but it turned out that something surprising happened to the team. Yes, nothing is impossible in a game. Apart from that, I see Bayern Munich as the god of luck. A not-so-good performance at the end of the match towards the end of the season was not something that caused Tuchel to be unable to win the title.

[kotwica666]

The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.

Victory is in sight for Dortmund, they only have one last game to win the Bundesliga title this season, but who knows what happened and what are the factors that made them fail to win the match that became the decider. Everyone including the fans was very confident that Dortmund would be the title holders this season, but it turned out that something surprising happened to the team. Yes, nothing is impossible in a game. Apart from that, I see Bayern Munich as the god of luck. A not-so-good performance at the end of the match towards the end of the season was not something that caused Tuchel to be unable to win the title.

Actually I think Dortmund lost to luck. Because of their outstanding performances in the previous matches, they came close to qualifying for the final title. But in the end, the opposition was far behind in comparative performance, yet the match failed to secure a Dortmund victory.

[bct_ail]

Kevin Schade of Freiburg now moves finally to England to FC Brentford. He had been on loan there since January. At that time, it was agreed that if he played a certain number of games, he would be sold. That is what happened and Freiburg can be happy about 25 million euros in revenue. This is the highest sum Freiburg has ever received for a player.

By the way: Germany is currently playing its international match number 1000.

[bestcoins1]

The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.

It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.

[klidex]

The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.

It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.

This season Dortmund has performed quite well even though they haven't really been able to have the expected first position but at least there has been some progress compared to last season.
If they can improve a number of players who feel they are not too influential then next season they will get first place in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich will be the team that will hinder Dortmund from reaching the top of the standings next season.

[Lafu]

Kevin Schade of Freiburg now moves finally to England to FC Brentford. He had been on loan there since January. At that time, it was agreed that if he played a certain number of games, he would be sold. That is what happened and Freiburg can be happy about 25 million euros in revenue. This is the highest sum Freiburg has ever received for a player.

By the way: Germany is currently playing its international match number 1000.

That is for sure some nice and big money for Freiburg what they are getting for the final transfer of Kevin Schade to Brentford.
Maybe we will see some nice transfers then and good players in Freiburg , but they already good and they playing international again.

About the 1000s game for Germany National Team its halftime now and they are back against Ukrain with 2:1

[Minecache]

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First of all, I did not like the idea of getting rid of the previous coach that they had. The start of Tuchel certainly has not been as good as people expected it to be. Bayern Munich had a really close call towards the end of the season. They almost lost the Bundesliga title to Dortmund. And that certainly would have been a disaster for Tuchel. I believe if they cannot have a good performance, Tuchel will be sacked eventually. But let's hope for the best. If we talk about the Champions League I don't think Bayern Munich is achieving anything good in that as well.

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but we have to remember that Bayern Munich almost lost the bundesliga title and in the end got it again thanks to the help of Tuchel.

It is actually not something I would thank Tuchel for. As a matter of fact, I think Bayern Munich should be able to thank Dortmund for not being able to win the last game. Dortmund had a good chance to win the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund did not manage to do so despite having a clear chance. There has to be a question in my mind as to whether they will be given another chance like that anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I believe that Tuchel will be able to achieve good results with Bayern Munich over the course of time.

[rahmad2nd]

50+1 still becomes a controversy. It's caused by other leagues have been getting so many investors while the regulation 50+1 in the bundesliga was preventing billion of money to go in to the bundesliga clubs.

So many speculations about that regulation will make bundesliga will not be able to be a competitive league like other league which was not implementing such regulation.

What do you guys think about 50+1 rule now? Is still important for bundesliga or not? 50+1 regulation was pushing the fans to own the majority of shares in the club.

In fact i have tried to review it in some 50+1 related posts. in effect, private investors cannot take over the club and potentially push for moves that prioritize profits over the wishes of the supporters. The ruling simultaneously protects reckless owners and protects the democratic habits of German clubs.

Historically, the German team was a non-profit organization run by member associations, and until 1998 private ownership of any kind was prohibited. the 50+1 rule, introduced that year, helps explain why debts and wages are under control and why ticket prices are so low compared to other European leagues. This rule makes it difficult for the Bundesliga to develop like other leagues. and as we know, Bayern Munich is the richest club in this competition. while the other is RB Leipzig which is sponsored by Red Bull. this should not be allowed. but in various ways, finally RB leipzig is the club that found a way to bypass the rules. although funded by Red Bull, instead of organizing itself as a "members" association with all "members" being Red Bull employees, therefore, the 50+1 rule would not apply.

The point is, with rules like this, don't ever expect that this league will be competitive.

[mv1986]

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First of all, I did not like the idea of getting rid of the previous coach that they had. The start of Tuchel certainly has not been as good as people expected it to be. Bayern Munich had a really close call towards the end of the season. They almost lost the Bundesliga title to Dortmund. And that certainly would have been a disaster for Tuchel. I believe if they cannot have a good performance, Tuchel will be sacked eventually. But let's hope for the best. If we talk about the Champions League I don't think Bayern Munich is achieving anything good in that as well.

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but we have to remember that Bayern Munich almost lost the bundesliga title and in the end got it again thanks to the help of Tuchel.

It is actually not something I would thank Tuchel for. As a matter of fact, I think Bayern Munich should be able to thank Dortmund for not being able to win the last game. Dortmund had a good chance to win the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund did not manage to do so despite having a clear chance. There has to be a question in my mind as to whether they will be given another chance like that anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I believe that Tuchel will be able to achieve good results with Bayern Munich over the course of time.

As you put it what should anyone thank Tuchel for? Bayern go weaker in almost all aspects ever since Nagelsmann got sacked. I quickly looked it up and found that under Nagelsmann, Bayern lost 3 out 37 games whereas under Tuchel they lost the 4th game after 11 games. Nagelsmann averaged 2.1 points per game whereas Tuchel averaged 1.55 points per game, all games from all competitions taken together. Both the offense and the defense became weaker under Tuchel. Under Nagelsmann Bayern averaged 3 goals per game whereas under Tuchel they averaged 1.8 goals per game. Under Nagelsmann they conceded 0.9 games per goal whereas under Tuchel they conceded 1.5 goals per game. ^{Source (German)}

I don't know what Tuchel should be thanked for. This data is so clear cut that nobody should actually come to the conclusion that it was right to fire Nagelsmann based on that data alone. There might have been other reasons, but Tuchel hasn't achieved any improvement or progress at all. He achieved the opposite and almost even lost the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund came to the rescue.

[Ryu_Ar1]

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First of all, I did not like the idea of getting rid of the previous coach that they had. The start of Tuchel certainly has not been as good as people expected it to be. Bayern Munich had a really close call towards the end of the season. They almost lost the Bundesliga title to Dortmund. And that certainly would have been a disaster for Tuchel. I believe if they cannot have a good performance, Tuchel will be sacked eventually. But let's hope for the best. If we talk about the Champions League I don't think Bayern Munich is achieving anything good in that as well.

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but we have to remember that Bayern Munich almost lost the bundesliga title and in the end got it again thanks to the help of Tuchel.

It is actually not something I would thank Tuchel for. As a matter of fact, I think Bayern Munich should be able to thank Dortmund for not being able to win the last game. Dortmund had a good chance to win the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund did not manage to do so despite having a clear chance. There has to be a question in my mind as to whether they will be given another chance like that anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I believe that Tuchel will be able to achieve good results with Bayern Munich over the course of time.

It's a bit funny but i agree with what you said because regardless, Dortmund's failure in the last match was a blessing for Tuchel and Bayern.
But even so now they have no time to feel safe because now the new season awaits and the holidays must now be put to good use by clubs in the Bundesliga including Bayern and Dortmund.
Currently Dortmund have lost Jude and they must think quickly to anticipate the leak that Jude will leave in the squad. On the other hand, Bayern have got new ammunition for their midfield. Konrad Laimer ended his adventure in Leipzig and next season is certain to be in Bayern's uniform.

[terrorJR]

It's undeniable that something like that has to be done and it's proven that they can be solid even without players being used as benchmarks or having big names.
Over time, Union's performance has improved and that deserves appreciation, even though I really wouldn't expect too much for the Champions League, but at least in this case they have reached a position where not many can even do it, which is very good for them.

UNion Berlin managed to become a team that deserves to be considered to re-enliven competition in the Bundesliga, how their performance this season was very good, yes, even though they had to experience several setbacks which caused them to be content with only being ranked 4th. But despite all that, we can't say that UNIon Berlin hasn't done well with what they've done this season. They have to make improvements in several positions to make their team even more solid.

Their conditions, with all the limitations in terms of resources and players, really expect consistency for one season, of course it will be very difficult.
But even so, still this has been very good for them regardless of some of the inconsistencies that occurred in a few games towards the end of this season it has also been very good for them.

Btw I'm interested in getting back to Leipzig now, they are currently missing 2 of their pillar players Nkuku who went to Chelsea and Konrad Laimer who moved to Bayern. It's sure to be another shakeup for them.

[Sirait]

It's a bit funny but i agree with what you said because regardless, Dortmund's failure in the last match was a blessing for Tuchel and Bayern.
But even so now they have no time to feel safe because now the new season awaits and the holidays must now be put to good use by clubs in the Bundesliga including Bayern and Dortmund.
Currently Dortmund have lost Jude and they must think quickly to anticipate the leak that Jude will leave in the squad. On the other hand, Bayern have got new ammunition for their midfield. Konrad Laimer ended his adventure in Leipzig and next season is certain to be in Bayern's uniform.

Getting Konrad Leimer on a free transfer is a fortune for Bayern because Bayern's midfield is quite weak, but Bayern should be more focused on getting a striker to replace Lewandowski because it is certain that if they haven't found a replacement for Lewandowski, it will be difficult for Bayern to fight in the UCL next season.

[BALIK]

I don't know what Tuchel should be thanked for. This data is so clear cut that nobody should actually come to the conclusion that it was right to fire Nagelsmann based on that data alone. There might have been other reasons, but Tuchel hasn't achieved any improvement or progress at all. He achieved the opposite and almost even lost the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund came to the rescue.

We don't know why Nagelsmann was fired. But the decision to fire Nagelsmann was not correct. Bayern Munich's performance further deteriorated after the sacking of Nagelsmann. They were eliminated from the Champions League after losing badly against Manchester City. Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga was not good either.
Tuchel in Munich is not yet successful. Out of 12 matches, Bayern Munich has won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. We are not sure if Tuchel can strengthen this team next season. But Tuchel is experienced enough. Hopefully, he will be successful with the Munich team.