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June 12, 2023, 09:47:00 PM
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I don't know what Tuchel should be thanked for. This data is so clear cut that nobody should actually come to the conclusion that it was right to fire Nagelsmann based on that data alone. There might have been other reasons, but Tuchel hasn't achieved any improvement or progress at all. He achieved the opposite and almost even lost the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund came to the rescue.

We don't know why Nagelsmann was fired. But the decision to fire Nagelsmann was not correct. Bayern Munich's performance further deteriorated after the sacking of Nagelsmann. They were eliminated from the Champions League after losing badly against Manchester City. Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga was not good either.
Tuchel in Munich is not yet successful. Out of 12 matches, Bayern Munich has won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. We are not sure if Tuchel can strengthen this team next season. But Tuchel is experienced enough. Hopefully, he will be successful with the Munich team.

I know Nagelsmann was fired because his team was not stable enough and they had bad results in some games. also, he had bad relations with players like Manuel Neuer.


The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.
It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.
This season Dortmund has performed quite well even though they haven't really been able to have the expected first position but at least there has been some progress compared to last season.
If they can improve a number of players who feel they are not too influential then next season they will get first place in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich will be the team that will hinder Dortmund from reaching the top of the standings next season.

The Dortmund performance was not good at all because they lost the chance they had to win the title in this league, Dortmund could easily use the chance they had when Bayern Munichwas not in good from but in the end Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga title for another time.

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June 12, 2023, 09:57:39 PM
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Luck really was the biggest factor for Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga title. Thanks to Dortmund's throw Bayern Munich still managed to make it to the title magically. But of course Bayern Munich board wouldn't be happy with the general look. Nagelsmann had the biggest share in this bad run of course but I can't say it was only him.

I won't put any blame on Tuchel first of all because he didn't have enough time to make the team become successful in the remaining time period of the season. I'm going to say that Bayern Munich didn't have a striker like Lewandowski which was one of the main reasons why they had big issues with getting proper wins in quite many matches. I hope to see them finding the one for the position this summer.

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June 12, 2023, 10:14:45 PM
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Luck really was the biggest factor for Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga title. Thanks to Dortmund's throw Bayern Munich still managed to make it to the title magically. But of course Bayern Munich board wouldn't be happy with the general look. Nagelsmann had the biggest share in this bad run of course but I can't say it was only him.

I won't put any blame on Tuchel first of all because he didn't have enough time to make the team become successful in the remaining time period of the season. I'm going to say that Bayern Munich didn't have a striker like Lewandowski which was one of the main reasons why they had big issues with getting proper wins in quite many matches. I hope to see them finding the one for the position this summer.

Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.

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June 12, 2023, 10:26:24 PM
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The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.
It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.
The German Bundesliga season is over already but Borussia Dortmund's failure to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the league will surely hurt the fans of Dortmund now and in years to come especially after seeing how close Dortmund were to winning the Bundesliga title.
Dortmund's transfer dealings of selling their best players to other European clubs in almost all the summer transfer windows I think is another reason why they shouldn't be considered as a strong team to compete with Bayern in not just this season to come but in years to come.

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June 12, 2023, 10:40:32 PM
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It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.
Yes, this season Dortmund failed in the race for the bundesliga title but the competition they provided in the bundesliga this season was quite impressive because they were able to put strong pressure on Bayern Munich until the end of the competition. But yes, unfortunately for them, it was in the last match where they had to hand over the Bundesliga trophy to Bayern Munich. However, this does not reflect that Dortmund will be better prepared next season because this season was their moment to get a trophy but they failed to do so. It looks like it will be difficult for Dortmund next season to put a lot of pressure on Bayern Munich because in the transfer market this season several of their players have gone to other teams such as Bellingham.

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June 12, 2023, 11:38:21 PM
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The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.
It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.
The German Bundesliga season is over already but Borussia Dortmund's failure to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the league will surely hurt the fans of Dortmund now and in years to come especially after seeing how close Dortmund were to winning the Bundesliga title.
Dortmund's transfer dealings of selling their best players to other European clubs in almost all the summer transfer windows I think is another reason why they shouldn't be considered as a strong team to compete with Bayern in not just this season to come but in years to come.
The dortmund team built not to win the title , every year ... every season they are building a team from a scratch as they tend to sell the players even to the rivals in order to gain profit from selling players , that's an usual practice for dortmund , the board might won't feel anything even if they consecutively failed to get the bundesliga title but the fans indeed will always feel betrayed , the club must honor everything on fans side as the club mean nothing without the fans / supporter.

Such an irony situation , dortmund could become the greatest clun in europe if only they keep all the key players.

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June 12, 2023, 11:38:58 PM
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The Bayern Munich team has been really lucky this season. Because this team did not perform very well in the last stage of the league, on the other hand, if Dortmund had not drawn with two goals in the last match, Bayern Munich could not have secured the title.
It is a thing that has passed and can only be remembered as history by Dortmund. And because Dortmund have almost managed to get another trophy in the Bundesliga, that means that Dortmund still have to try to do better next season by winning more every game since the start of the season so that Dortmund can more easily secure themselves to become champions again in the Bundesliga. Because competition in the Bundesliga is fierce again and next season is unlikely to be much different from this season.
This season Dortmund has performed quite well even though they haven't really been able to have the expected first position but at least there has been some progress compared to last season.
If they can improve a number of players who feel they are not too influential then next season they will get first place in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich will be the team that will hinder Dortmund from reaching the top of the standings next season.

The Dortmund performance was not good at all because they lost the chance they had to win the title in this league, Dortmund could easily use the chance they had when Bayern Munichwas not in good from but in the end Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga title for another time.

Dortmund were not that good, i agree with that, they were that close to Bayern Munich only because Bayern's bad performance in that season, they lost many points in consecutive matches, and even with that and Dortmund failed to win the league, they need to improve a lot to make that happen, or take advantage of Bayern weakness if it happens again in another season.

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June 12, 2023, 11:45:57 PM
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Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.
Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.

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June 12, 2023, 11:52:47 PM
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We don't know why Nagelsmann was fired. But the decision to fire Nagelsmann was not correct. Bayern Munich's performance further deteriorated after the sacking of Nagelsmann. They were eliminated from the Champions League after losing badly against Manchester City. Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga was not good either.
Tuchel in Munich is not yet successful. Out of 12 matches, Bayern Munich has won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. We are not sure if Tuchel can strengthen this team next season. But Tuchel is experienced enough. Hopefully, he will be successful with the Munich team.
It has been stated so many times in the various articles that published by various reliable sources if naglesmann has been sacked due to the inconsistency with the club. He has been sacked when he was playing ski after he got a call from bayern's director.
That's why his case has become very popular case at that time. As far as i remember if bayern has 100% WR in UCL under him but tuchel wa destroying it in the first touch with bayern in UCL when it faces manchester city.
I remember how optimism tuchel to beat manchester city but it's ended with pathetic result.

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June 13, 2023, 12:09:51 AM
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Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.
In the case of Mane, the initiator of the breakup can be not only a football player, but also Bayern Munich itself, because I do not think that the history of the fight between Mane and Sane has been forgotten in the club, and as you know, Bayern is quite scrupulous about such reputational and psychological moments and their impact on the microclimate in the team. In principle, we could try to close our eyes to this if Mane was playing well for the club and he brought invaluable help to the team, but on this front, too, everything is not as successful as the Bayern bosses would like.
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June 13, 2023, 01:40:19 AM
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Getting Konrad Leimer on a free transfer is a fortune for Bayern because Bayern's midfield is quite weak, but Bayern should be more focused on getting a striker to replace Lewandowski because it is certain that if they haven't found a replacement for Lewandowski, it will be difficult for Bayern to fight in the UCL next season.
If I'm not mistaken Leimer has been one of Bayern Munich's targets for quite a while and it looks like he will feel comfortable at Bayern Munich because his future is definitely guaranteed here to be able to win the Bundesliga title. While with Leipzig in season 22/23 he has played 29 times then contributed 4 goals and 1 assist in all competitions.

I think for the central midfield position it's not bad as long as he can help maintain stability on the field and bring his team to good results. Leimer is also still 26 years old and his future is still quite long, especially if he can display significant performance it is likely that he will get an additional contract duration or a salary increase with Bayern Munich.

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June 13, 2023, 02:30:58 AM
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We don't know why Nagelsmann was fired. But the decision to fire Nagelsmann was not correct. Bayern Munich's performance further deteriorated after the sacking of Nagelsmann. They were eliminated from the Champions League after losing badly against Manchester City. Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga was not good either.
Tuchel in Munich is not yet successful. Out of 12 matches, Bayern Munich has won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. We are not sure if Tuchel can strengthen this team next season. But Tuchel is experienced enough. Hopefully, he will be successful with the Munich team.
It has been stated so many times in the various articles that published by various reliable sources if naglesmann has been sacked due to the inconsistency with the club. He has been sacked when he was playing ski after he got a call from bayern's director.
That's why his case has become very popular case at that time. As far as i remember if bayern has 100% WR in UCL under him but tuchel wa destroying it in the first touch with bayern in UCL when it faces manchester city.
I remember how optimism tuchel to beat manchester city but it's ended with pathetic result.

That's absolutely one of the worst mistake that Bayern Munich did in the previous season, the club was very strong in the UCL and everyone was afraid from playing against them but after they changed the coach everything start running in another direction, it's true that the oppenet was Manchester city but the results and the preformence of the club in both matches wss very bad

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It's a bit funny but i agree with what you said because regardless, Dortmund's failure in the last match was a blessing for Tuchel and Bayern.
But even so now they have no time to feel safe because now the new season awaits and the holidays must now be put to good use by clubs in the Bundesliga including Bayern and Dortmund.
Currently Dortmund have lost Jude and they must think quickly to anticipate the leak that Jude will leave in the squad. On the other hand, Bayern have got new ammunition for their midfield. Konrad Laimer ended his adventure in Leipzig and next season is certain to be in Bayern's uniform.
Getting Konrad Leimer on a free transfer is a fortune for Bayern because Bayern's midfield is quite weak, but Bayern should be more focused on getting a striker to replace Lewandowski because it is certain that if they haven't found a replacement for Lewandowski, it will be difficult for Bayern to fight in the UCL next season.
Of course this will be very useful for them, especially in this case Konrad Leimer is also one of the players who had a pretty good initiation when he was in Leipzig and of course this will increase the midfield cruising power of PSG of course. As for the striker, basically from the beginning they still haven't found it. Mane is already there but his position in this case we know is not a striker but a winger so it does need some things that can make Bayern look again now and time is still long enough they have to prepare for this from now on.


Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.
Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.
Her not-so-regular position makes her not too comfortable with this.
We know that sometimes he was always placed as a targetman in the Naeglsmann era, which I actually think is something that is too forced, especially with this, it is certain that he will be compared to Lewa who left, which makes the burden even heavier.
He is not planning to leave next season but of course for this Tuchel must be able to provide a good position, he is still very capable at the winger so rather than trying a new position that is less favorable for performance it is better to keep him where he should be so that he regains his momentum as a winger supporting the striker in attack.

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UNion Berlin managed to become a team that deserves to be considered to re-enliven competition in the Bundesliga, how their performance this season was very good, yes, even though they had to experience several setbacks which caused them to be content with only being ranked 4th. But despite all that, we can't say that UNIon Berlin hasn't done well with what they've done this season. They have to make improvements in several positions to make their team even more solid.
Their conditions, with all the limitations in terms of resources and players, really expect consistency for one season, of course it will be very difficult.
But even so, still this has been very good for them regardless of some of the inconsistencies that occurred in a few games towards the end of this season it has also been very good for them.

Btw I'm interested in getting back to Leipzig now, they are currently missing 2 of their pillar players Nkuku who went to Chelsea and Konrad Laimer who moved to Bayern. It's sure to be another shakeup for them.
Now their momentum is good and by entering them into the Champions League for the first time, apart from increasing their prestige, in other conditions this can also add to their experience to make it even better.
Hopefully, with their busy schedule, they don't get into a bad condition because it's quite risky for a club that is actually mediocre in terms of players, when carrying out a busy schedule it will interfere with their performance in all competitions and maybe Atalanta in Serie A is a clear example in this regard.
As for Leipzig they have always been like that and admittedly they have no qualms about selling some of their core players but they can always find some good space in the reverse momentum. Actually for this season it is also possible to be like that.

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June 13, 2023, 06:11:15 AM
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We don't know why Nagelsmann was fired. But the decision to fire Nagelsmann was not correct. Bayern Munich's performance further deteriorated after the sacking of Nagelsmann. They were eliminated from the Champions League after losing badly against Manchester City. Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga was not good either.
Tuchel in Munich is not yet successful. Out of 12 matches, Bayern Munich has won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. We are not sure if Tuchel can strengthen this team next season. But Tuchel is experienced enough. Hopefully, he will be successful with the Munich team.
It has been stated so many times in the various articles that published by various reliable sources if naglesmann has been sacked due to the inconsistency with the club. He has been sacked when he was playing ski after he got a call from bayern's director.
That's why his case has become very popular case at that time. As far as i remember if bayern has 100% WR in UCL under him but tuchel wa destroying it in the first touch with bayern in UCL when it faces manchester city.
I remember how optimism tuchel to beat manchester city but it's ended with pathetic result.

That's absolutely one of the worst mistake that Bayern Munich did in the previous season, the club was very strong in the UCL and everyone was afraid from playing against them but after they changed the coach everything start running in another direction, it's true that the oppenet was Manchester city but the results and the preformence of the club in both matches wss very bad
If the Champions League Final was between Bayern Munich and Man City, the odds would have been high for both clubs as a fearful display would have been envisaged. But unfortunately, the mightiest ones had been knocked out before the final, I guess it was the lucky time for Man City. Talking about coaches, I will always say that those people thinking that professional and well-qualified coaches are the problem of a club at times are just being naive, what has Tuchel done in the club so far?

Let's see how the next season would play out with the guy and the club, it's too early for me to judge, let him start and complete a season first.

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June 13, 2023, 06:15:45 AM
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Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.
Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.
In the previous season, Mane played very well for the attacking line, he even had several goals with quite a lot of assists, but he was treated quite badly by the team he defended.
There are several English teams after him and this will be a great opportunity for Mane to prove that Bayern Munich have treated him badly so that they will regret what he did for wasting Mane.
After all, several English teams targeting Mane are also big teams.

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June 13, 2023, 06:39:07 AM
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In fact i have tried to review it in some 50+1 related posts. in effect, private investors cannot take over the club and potentially push for moves that prioritize profits over the wishes of the supporters. The ruling simultaneously protects reckless owners and protects the democratic habits of German clubs.

Historically, the German team was a non-profit organization run by member associations, and until 1998 private ownership of any kind was prohibited. the 50+1 rule, introduced that year, helps explain why debts and wages are under control and why ticket prices are so low compared to other European leagues. This rule makes it difficult for the Bundesliga to develop like other leagues. and as we know, Bayern Munich is the richest club in this competition. while the other is RB Leipzig which is sponsored by Red Bull. this should not be allowed. but in various ways, finally RB leipzig is the club that found a way to bypass the rules. although funded by Red Bull, instead of organizing itself as a "members" association with all "members" being Red Bull employees, therefore, the 50+1 rule would not apply.

The point is, with rules like this, don't ever expect that this league will be competitive.

That's it. Unlike EPL which was giving billionaire to acquire more than 50% of shares from the club. Bundesliga was preventing it. It was making bundesliga less interested. Im sure that if bundesliga will be very competitive once the big investors will be allowed to take a part by buying the majority of shares from a club. I hope that if bundesliga will be able to change it in the future. The rich team was always dominating the league. Look at how bayern was always winning bundesliga for more than a decade. that's pretty sad to see that this league is slowly evolving compared with another league.
I hope that such rules will be reconsider again in the future. Im not saying bundesliga must be doing it now. I hope only if 50+1 will be removed from the regulation in bundesliga.
It was hurting a small club that has no good financial condition.

I don't wanna see bayern to win bundesliga in a row for two decades without even stop. That will make bundesliga look like a true farmer league.

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June 13, 2023, 07:27:44 AM
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If the Champions League Final was between Bayern Munich and Man City, the odds would have been high for both clubs as a fearful display would have been envisaged. But unfortunately, the mightiest ones had been knocked out before the final, I guess it was the lucky time for Man City. Talking about coaches, I will always say that those people thinking that professional and well-qualified coaches are the problem of a club at times are just being naive, what has Tuchel done in the club so far?

Let's see how the next season would play out with the guy and the club, it's too early for me to judge, let him start and complete a season first.

City beat Bayern before the final, so don't say it could have been a tougher match, because City beat Bayern very confidently.
If Tuchel did not have time to do anything in the team, then why was it necessary to change the coach at this stage? I'm still very skeptical about Tuchel, I think he won't last long as head coach, he's too impulsive and the Bayern players won't be able to work with such a coach.

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June 13, 2023, 09:07:15 AM
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That's absolutely one of the worst mistake that Bayern Munich did in the previous season, the club was very strong in the UCL and everyone was afraid from playing against them but after they changed the coach everything start running in another direction, it's true that the oppenet was Manchester city but the results and the preformence of the club in both matches wss very bad
The director was rushing to replace naglesmann with tuchel. Their expectation didn't even meet. I did believe if bayern director was expect treble winners by signed tuchel at the end of season but it has become a boomerang for all of them.
The team has been performing so smoothly with naglesmann as a coach but bayern director was destroying it. It has been rumored if director was making such decision caused by they were worrying if tuchel will be taken by another club.
As long as naglesmann would able to give UCL and another domestic trophies and why not? I hope that oliver kahn will be learning from his mistake.
he shall never try to replace the coach once the team was playing so well under him. It will not really give impact to the performance from the club.
It will make the players feel awkward with the new coach as it has been giving a short time to adapt.

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June 13, 2023, 01:27:02 PM
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That's it. Unlike EPL which was giving billionaire to acquire more than 50% of shares from the club. Bundesliga was preventing it. It was making bundesliga less interested. Im sure that if bundesliga will be very competitive once the big investors will be allowed to take a part by buying the majority of shares from a club. I hope that if bundesliga will be able to change it in the future. The rich team was always dominating the league. Look at how bayern was always winning bundesliga for more than a decade. that's pretty sad to see that this league is slowly evolving compared with another league.
I hope that such rules will be reconsider again in the future. Im not saying bundesliga must be doing it now. I hope only if 50+1 will be removed from the regulation in bundesliga.
It was hurting a small club that has no good financial condition.

I don't wanna see bayern to win bundesliga in a row for two decades without even stop. That will make bundesliga look like a true farmer league.
Primer League better for manage by the new owner because there are has rule with full share and difference with Bundesliga and La Liga competition because the owner can monopoly or 100% share in one team. Seems its difficult why Bundesliga teams not really compete when bringin star player and faced difficult with financial, I am not sure rule in Bundesliga above 50% share for the owner will change at the future.

Regarding what happen with Union Berlin, fans has dominance controlling with shareholding and I don't sure how they can compete for participants in Champion League next season with low budget. Not bring star or compete player make them difficult how qualify from group stage exactly when drawing schedule against with bigger teams.

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