Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

the time is not right . the match starts at 8:45 pm in stuttgart . the match will be shown live on free-tv SAT1 and livestram on ran.de .
both matches are completely sold out . i hope we see many nice goals and the better or luckier team will play in the 1.bundesliga next season .
so...66 minutes to go and the match starts  

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.

Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.

Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

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[Jackl87]

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.
Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.
Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

[MinoRaiola]

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

[Furious 7]

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

Quick goal in the first minute is still the only goal that happened at this time. It's quite unfortunate when VAR saved the previous penalty in this case but indeed Stuttgart so far are still with a pretty good determination against Hamburg.
The first round of matches will soon be over but with Hamburg still unable to maximize opportunities and not free from the rhythm that Stuttgart is doing it looks like the first round will be won by Stuttgart in this case.
But indeed the conditions could still have changed for the second half. Hamburg doesn't want to lose for this leg match because of course even if they lose it's still possible to make a comeback in Leg 2 but still it's a bit of a loss.

[Marvell1]

This is Leipzig's second chance to win a title this season. The first one was the Super Cup match against Bayern Munich but they lost it by a huge score like 5-3. They had a quite good season in the Bundesliga as they made it to top 4 and secured their Champions League ticket in time. But I don't expect this to cause them to be complacent in the DFB Pokal finale of course. This is like the only place without Bayern Munich for Leipzig and Frankfurt both so they had better use this chance nicely.

These teams beat each other once in the Bundesliga this season. But here I'm going on with Leipzig win and I'll bet on it as well. Frankfurt aren't the kind of a team I like anymore. I really appreciated their high effort in the previous season due to winning the Europa League title. But now they are away from that look.

I couldn't agree more with you. Frankfurt seems like they have lost the touch and also probably the winning hunger. It is actually really hard to expect a win from them in this match. Especially when we know that Leipzig is currently performing well. They have had a good consistent performance in the Bundesliga. Leipzig has finished in the top 4 meaning that they will play in the Champions League competition. They would want to end things on a good note by winning this DFB Pokal trophy. But on the other hand, Frankfurt is not going to participate in any European competition in the next season. So they are going to be determined to win at least something from this season and this is the only chance they have left.

[KTChampions]

Lewandowski's departure from the Bundesliga has affected the league deeply as well. I mean especially the top scorers table. Because you know how dominant Lewandowski was when he was wearing Bayern Munich shirt. For example, he scored 35 goals in the 2021/2022 season and pulled away from his nearest competitor by 11 goals. But now we see nobody who was able to score a lot of goals in this season. There was a tight competition for being top scorer for sure but the player with the most goals scored only 16 goals.

I wonder whether we will see a special scorer like Lewandowski again in the near future. I had big expectations from Nkunku truthfully. But his injury caused him to miss 9 league matches which was really a big hindrance for him to score more goals.

If you look at the statistics of the Bundesliga before Lewandowski, you will see that the top scorers here have always been quite modest and practically no one (in modern history) has claimed the golden boot. Lewandowski was an exception due to his dominance plus Bayern's dominance, but now the years have passed and if you look at his results in La Liga (where usually the tops score a lot of goals) his results are also quite modest this season.

[mv1986]

Great news for RB Leipzig as they were able to convince Olmo of staying in Leipzig despite some very tempting offers from top clubs. I am mentioning this because he was offered high salaries as he is quite a strong offensive midfielder in the Bundesliga in my opinion and Leipzig said some time ago that they are not going to deviate from their salary policies within the team. They had a sort of upper limit, but is it even possible to stick to that when clubs like Barcelona knock on his door? Not that Barcelona would be the best of the best right now, but Olmo is Spanish and would have earned more in Barcelona for sure and he was raised in La Masia for 8 years. It is a positive surprise to see a Bundesliga club keep a player like him despite much bigger clubs knocking on his door.

[bekti3]

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

Now Stuttgart seem to have re-locked the bundesliga for them. The score of 3-0 is quite big in terms of deficit in my opinion even though it is possible there are still some reversal conditions from Hamburg but to be honest I'm not too sure about that.
The conditions are now in Stuttgart's favor for their 2nd leg later and it looks like Hamburg will again and again have to dash their hopes in the bundesliga as they have to lose again in the play off phase for 2 seasons in a row.

[Joca97]

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

Now Stuttgart seem to have re-locked the bundesliga for them. The score of 3-0 is quite big in terms of deficit in my opinion even though it is possible there are still some reversal conditions from Hamburg but to be honest I'm not too sure about that.
The conditions are now in Stuttgart's favor for their 2nd leg later and it looks like Hamburg will again and again have to dash their hopes in the bundesliga as they have to lose again in the play off phase for 2 seasons in a row.

Pretty big win by Stuttgart but still this is the bundesliga and you can never know what can happen. Germans are known for not giving up but still a big result and a big lost for Hamburger. They were a minut away from bundesliga and now they are far far away. It looks like they wont comeback to bundesliga yet again

[harapan]

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.

Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.

Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

I agree with this. I have never been a fan of it.
I don't see any reason why the three lowest teams in the Bundesliga get relegated while the three top teams in the 2 Bundesliga get promoted. Better still, the play off can be between the third and fourth team on the table of the 2nd Bundesliga. It is unfair for a team to burst their ass off all season only to lose to someone else at the bottom of the table. It doesn't tell the clearer picture of the teams.
Now Stuggarts have won 3-0 so I don't see how Hamburger is going to overtune that. 

[püsür]

Despite losing the Bundesliga title to their number one rival Bayern Munich in the last moment, Dortmund are still about to achieve one of their biggest targets. It is to make a big profit in transfers. Even only selling Bellingham would make them be in a huge level of profit. Because Real Madrid are expected to pay a transfer fee which is worth not less than his market price.

His current market price is €120m by the way. When he was transferred from Birmingham first his market value was €27m. Just look at how much he has increased his value! It must be feeling sad for their fans to be about to lose their most important player but I don't think the board would be that sad.

In the end they would be happy as long as they sell this kind of talented players for a huge sum of money. They can fill his place with another promising young player and move on.

As we know, since the beginning Dortmund did not target to compete for the Bundesliga trophy.  but to be more precise, they still exist in the top four of the Bundesliga, while still participating in the Champions League competition. it's just that since they have the opportunity to win the Bundesliga trophy, Dormund fought hard to make it happen. it's a shame, Edin Terzic's squad missed the opportunities that were in front of their eyes. in the end, Bayern Munich still dominated this competition.

On the other hand, Dortmund's business is running as smoothly as in previous seasons. yes, Dortmund is a well-known club that always prints talented players. now, Dormund will get a big profit just by releasing Bellingham to Madrid. with only one player, Dortmund has a higher profit than previous seasons. "correct me if I'm wrong".
Well, several other player names, have been rumored with several big clubs and one of them is Youssoufa Moukoko. no exception, if anyone is interested it looks like Dortmund will let him go. it could be, Adeyemi will also leave if there is a club that is interested in him. the point is, even though Dortmund didn't win a trophy. they have remained hugely advantaged this season.

If you leave the player who is talked about 100-150 million in the championship match in the substitutes, you deserve to stay behind like this in the title run. Dortmund's championship would benefit the Bundesliga and Bayern, especially Dortmund. There would now be a BVB that could take on Bayern. A new excitement would come to the league and the rate of watching the League would increase. Just like in Seria A. There is a thing called great team reflex, it is really connected with the experienced players in the squad and both Arsenal and Dortmund won the championship because of the lack of it, but Dortmund's is really tragic. Bellingham is one of the most agile, the best of the players to sprint on the wing. >Maybe the last week's complacency is obvious, there is no defense, hummels cannot carry this team alone. I would be sad if they were defeated with fighting, but they deserved it.

[Leviathan.007]

Not good when we see Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title for another time, every season in Bundesliga we usually see Bayern Munich winning the title, and other teams can't even race with them because of the much more investment they have for their teams, and this made Bundesliga boring.
But in this season because of the unstable situation in Bayern Munich Dortmund had a good chance to win the title after more than ten years which could be a great achievement for them and they failed.

[Unknown Op]

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.
Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.
Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

As you correctly pointed out the introduction of relegation games a decade ago was primarily motivated by financial considerations. The choice was heavily influenced by television rights and other sources of income. Due to their normally greater rosters and resources teams from the first Bundesliga have historically performed well in these matchups. However the second Bundesliga teams momentum is a factor that works in their favour. Since they have played well all season they frequently bring a positive attitude and confidence into these key games. Even against more experienced foes this momentum occasionally has the power to turn the tide of the battle. The second Bundesliga teams can therefore use their recent success to overcome the odds and compete for a spot in the top division of German football despite the fact that the first Bundesliga teams have the overall edge.

[X-ray]

stuttgart was winning easily against hamburg in the first leg of relegation playoff. In my opinion if it's end for hamburg and it will keep play in bundesliga 2. No chance for hamburg to go to the bundesliga.

I think that the result from the second leg can be predicted easily by looking at the current score and how stuttgart was dominating the match.

Stuttgart will still stay in bundesliga. Glad to see that being achieved by stuttgart.

[LUCKMCFLY]

You are absolutely right, many of us think that when Lewa left the team he was easily replaceable, but the truth is that he left a big hole, there he did a lot of damage to Bayern and also damaged himself, because he is in a Barcelona that when he tries to raise his head they give a hammer, he could not be in the UCL, they did not let him in the Europa League either and apart from all that the only thing he can find is the League, which is respected, but with the team that has more of its technical director who is merely culé, Well, it is so that he would have dominated the League and UCL, as well as all the championships in which he has to participate,it is hard, because fútbol is not easy. but they have how to do it.

Lewandowski is on the brink of leaving Bayern Munich and mostly Julian Nagelsmann is against it and has done everything in their power for the Polish striker not to leave Bayern Munich, but Lewandowski got his decision all fixed for a Barcelona trade, but while the Polish Striker got some problems entering Barcelona Bayern Munich got some huge problem on their back now that Robert Lewandowski is leaving and enters the next season, and comparing Dortmund with Bayern Munich when Erling Haaland leaves Dortmund, Dortmund seems doesn't have much problem, the only problem they have are just Sébastien Haller getting cancer, but they still manage something getting this far,

Until the end of the championship there are 3 rounds and not three months. ) In fact, Bayern still have a difficult match with Leipzig, and Dortmund with Borussia Mönchengladbach, the rest of the rivals are not so difficult. That Dortmund are in better shape may mean nothing, if Bayern win their remaining matches 1-0 they will become champions. But one point advantage is really very little and Dortmund still have chances, they need to win and just wait for Bayern to lose points.

If Bayern Munich will have a more coordinated attack and Sadio Mane and Leroy Sane work together as a team I really think they can make it and win against Leipzig, I really think this is the problem of Tuchel for the team, and I think he has talked some senses to his players and I think the next 3 matches will sure be interesting for sure,

While Dortmund against Monchengladbach, Borussia Dortmund will need all possible attack patterns like what they did with the match against Wolfsburg, I can say Wolfsburg is a formidable opponent but that game it looks like they are not in the mood for their win and because it is just 3 matches left that they just end up in the middle of the standings,

In the same way, when we verify Lewa's state, it is not something that he feels good about, Bayern would have followed him, always guaranteeing a great victory, when he left Bayern he left his team bare and in turn entered a team that did not He is capable of winning the Europa League, he barely won the League and it is something that is not very representative, if he had stayed at Bayern I am sure that instead of City, he would have faced Bayern in the UCL, that It is something that cannot be denied, but you have to see that a player weighs a lot when he goes to a team that in my personal opinion is the wrong one.

Not good when we see Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title for another time, every season in Bundesliga we usually see Bayern Munich winning the title, and other teams can't even race with them because of the much more investment they have for their teams, and this made Bundesliga boring.
But in this season because of the unstable situation in Bayern Munich Dortmund had a good chance to win the title after more than ten years which could be a great achievement for them and they failed.

The same was said with PSG in France, but hey here things can happen in different ways, for some it's boring for Bayern to win, but what can be done? they proved to be the best, rather they were almost dethroned, Dortmund is a team that is giving a lot to talk about, it is no longer that team that is always going to sell good players, now Dortmund is talked about as the greats, and it is that the Dormund for me is qualified to win the next Bundesliga, personally I thought that Bayern were not going to make it , but they really did very well.

[Bobrox]

Full Time : VfB Stuttgart 3 vs 0 Hamburger SV

Its good capital for Stuttgart won Bundesliga relegation playoff round first leg against Hamburger SV, has large chance for existing in Bundesliga competition next season with won 3 goals and enough for second leg match away to Hamburger. Seems difficult for Hamburger winning above four goals on second leg and dreaming back to Bundesliga next season almost close although still 90 minutes left for second leg.

I don't think its fair with rule of model Bundesliga promotion and relegation teams, better not has relegation playoff for third bottom standing team against with teams from Bundesliga 2, but this rule have adopted for long term and not any history created with Bundesliga 2 teams success won against Bundesliga team on relegation playoff round.

[Lafu]

Full Time : VfB Stuttgart 3 vs 0 Hamburger SV

Its good capital for Stuttgart won Bundesliga relegation playoff round first leg against Hamburger SV, has large chance for existing in Bundesliga competition next season with won 3 goals and enough for second leg match away to Hamburger. Seems difficult for Hamburger winning above four goals on second leg and dreaming back to Bundesliga next season almost close although still 90 minutes left for second leg.

Looks like i was right with my prediction for that relegation game between Stuttgart against Hamburg.
Im and was a little bit disappointed from Hamburg as i thought that they will be playing better , but Stuttgart was really good yesterday.
And if the result will be has ended with 5 or 6 goals for Stuttgart , Hamburg can be not complaining.
There was enough chances to score 3 more goals for Stuttgart , and for sure its a very good starting point for the next and final relegation game on monday.

[G_Besar]

Not good when we see Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title for another time, every season in Bundesliga we usually see Bayern Munich winning the title, and other teams can't even race with them because of the much more investment they have for their teams, and this made Bundesliga boring.
But in this season because of the unstable situation in Bayern Munich Dortmund had a good chance to win the title after more than ten years which could be a great achievement for them and they failed.

It is almost certain that the Bundesliga will get the highest rating if Dortmund are able to win the title this season, meaning that the Bundesliga is no longer boring because almost every season in its history has been dominated by Bayern Munich. The problem of inequality is very big with other teams where the Bavarians are always ready with big investments. Yes, this season the Bundesliga is very competitive and there is a fierce battle until the end of the season. I really hope that the Bundesliga team will soon make a massive investment so that football fans around the world can enjoy the Bundesliga looking more exciting.

[Docnaster]

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

the time is not right . the match starts at 8:45 pm in stuttgart . the match will be shown live on free-tv SAT1 and livestram on ran.de .
both matches are completely sold out . i hope we see many nice goals and the better or luckier team will play in the 1.bundesliga next season .
so...66 minutes to go and the match starts  

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.

The reason you hate relegation is very much laughable. And your logic is not connecting with what you are trying to express.
How do you mean that a team that has been doing well from the beginning of the season can be punished because of the last two matches and they'll be relegated. While the team that has been performing so poor could be lucky in the last two matches and they will not be relegated. Let me ask you, is it the last two matches that determine who is relegated or who is not relegated? From the first day the season starts relegation battle has started.
If the team was so good from the beginning of the season, why will they be in the relegation zone in the last two matches?

[tusandii]

Full Time : VfB Stuttgart 3 vs 0 Hamburger SV

Pretty impressive match.
I also took a bet for VfB Stuttgart and managed to have some profit from the win.
With Odds of 1.62 I pocketed a profit of more than 50% of the capital I bet.
Maybe there are lots of gamblers who get big wins from this match.