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June 06, 2023, 08:46:53 AM
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Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

The first half could give the Hamburg fans some hope, but already at the beginning of the second half it became clear that everything was over. Stuttgart are stronger and they deserve to stay in the Bundesliga, I like Hamburg and I understand their desire to return to the big leagues, but for this you need to play much better, losing 1-6 on aggregate is a defeat without a chance.
With a quick goal early in the first half it sparked a bit of excitement but indeed that seemed to be all they could show.
The second half completely belonged to Stuttgart in this match which made them really unable to do much because indeed they lost to take advantage of the momentum and the second half went really well for Stuttgart. Even though I wasn't really surprised by this result, but looking at the matches that took place in this case, we can see how many gaps there are in the Hamburg camp when they are so frequent in their attacks that counterattacks really become a frightening specter.

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June 06, 2023, 10:00:07 AM
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We agree, if Tuchel does his job to the best of his ability. so that Bayern Munich is in accordance with what he wants and at the same time meets the expectations of Bayern Munich's management. however, in his journey with Bayern, it did not meet the expectations of most parties. In fact, I would say that the title they won this season was a gift from Dortmund, who were unable to complete their task properly in the final game against Mainz. so, winning the Bundesliga for the umpteenth time did not live up to the expectations that Bayern's management had hoped for. that's why Bayern sacked oliver kahn and hasan salihamidžić, because they were responsible for what happened to Bayern, especially after Nagelsmann's dismissal.

In this season, it can be said, bayern failed which usually appear superior in the Bundesliga. even the points they have, are no different from Dortmund's points. maybe in the coming season, Tuchel can prove his ability to bring his team much better. because, he has a lot of time to achieve chemistry between players and coaches. well, we'll find out later. Can Tuchel bring Bayern even better, especially in the Champions League? and IMO, this is a new challenge for him.
To be more precise, if we measure Tuchel performance with Bayern Munich this season, of course we can't decide with a more precise answer. To see Tuchel's performance at Bayern Munich, we have to see it in the next season because he came to Bayern Munich this season when the competition has a few  matches left. So the quality of the players doesn't really blend in with the strategy implemented by Tuchel because he doesn't have much time to find a more suitable partner in the game scheme that will be implemented by him. Now, with Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga Trophy this season, of course this is a good step for Tuchel to start his era at Bayern Munich next season.

Bayern Munich management this season made several major changes to the top ranks of the Bayer Munich club where management fired Oliver Kahn and appointed Christian Dreesen as CEO of Bayern Munich. So apart from the speculation that is happening at Bayern Munich, I think failure in the Champions League is quite painful for Bayern Munich this season. Tuchel may be given full freedom to bring in players in the transfer market later in order to improve performance for next season.

The problem is as we know, after Tuchel replaced Nagelsmann, he was predicted to bring down City and many people agreed. that is why, the rash decision made by Bayern Munich's management. Previously, it was also rumored that Tuchel had the potential to win a treble winner. it's a shame, it turns out that what management targeted didn't match expectations.
Previously I liked Bayern Munich's style of play with Nagelsmann, he is a young coach who has a modern football philosophy. unfortunately, he was not given the opportunity to spend the rest of the season with Munich. in fact, Bayern's biggest mistake was letting go of Lewandowski and not trying to bring in a pure striker instead. in the end Bayern experienced a few problems, until finally Choupo Moting was given the opportunity to fill in the position left by Lewandowski. although previously, Nagelsmann has tried to reshuffle and rotate especially at centre-forward.

Here, I'm not measuring Tuchel's performance with Bayern in a short time. I even said before, that Tuchel did his job to the best of his ability. he put all his efforts into making Bayern live up to what he expected. unfortunately, there are differences between Nagelsmann's system and Tuchel's. that's why, like it or not, Tuchel had to adapt quickly to achieve chemistry with his team. however, it seems that along the way it is quite difficult to change the habits that were previously always applied by Nagelsmann. apart from that, Tuchel needs players who fit his criteria. I also don't forget to say, maybe in the next season he can be creative with what he really wants. moreover, he can bring in newcomers that suit his philosophy. well, next season, is a real challenge for Tuchel and let's see what he will do.

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June 06, 2023, 10:22:51 AM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

I was sure that Stuttgart would be able to qualify for the Bundesliga. However, after Hamburger scored in the sixth minute of the match, I thought the match would be very competitive. The hamburger will try their best to win this match. Hamburger had a good first-half performance. Despite several good attacks, they could not break down Stuttgart's defense. However, in the second half, Stuttgart made an excellent comeback. Enzo Milot scored a goal just 3 minutes into the second half to level the match at 1-1. And in the 65th minute, Stuttgart took the lead in the match with another goal. And in the last 90 minutes, another goal in the match gave Stuttgart a wonderful victory of 3-1. Stuttgart played well in both matches against Hamburger.

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June 06, 2023, 10:25:13 AM
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I was lucky because I still made the decision to put VfB Stuttgart on the line like in the previous game.

Congratulation for you.

To be honest, if that match was ez money to predict. Stuttgart has been dominating the first leg and it was also making the same in the second leg. That prediction was coming true if stuttgart will still stay in the bundesliga next season.
Hamburg was holding the match with more ball possessions and it has equal shoots compared with stuttgart but surprisingly if stuttgart has a very good defensive combined with high accuracy in the attacking lines.

3 goals from 4 goal attempts for stuttgart is very good.

Many applauses were going to the hamburg caused by it has been trying so hard to win against stuttgart by using the moderct tactic but the quality from players that owned by hamburg is mot match against stuttgart.
Good luck hamburg for the next season.

6-1 as the final aggregates from this match.

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June 06, 2023, 10:50:34 AM
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VfB Stuttgart played very well even though they conceded 1 goal early in the first minute but they managed to bring things back with goals scored by Millot in 48 and 64 minutes.
This advantage lasted until the last minute and in added time 90+6 Mvumpa scored a goal to make the score 1 - 3.

I was lucky because I still made the decision to put VfB Stuttgart on the line like in the previous game.
Unfortunately I don't have the courage to bet on this match because I feel that Stuttgart will hold back.
Actually, my intuition was right, indeed they played with a defensive scheme, but what I regretted was that Hamburg's all out condition backfired for them.
Hamburg's honest possession was very good but the direct pass which Stuttgart always makes is really excellent and I was entertained especially for the second half.
A pretty sweet comeback with a fairly monohok score makes them feel alive again in the bundesliga next season.
But it's quite unfortunate for Hamburg because their bad luck in the play-offs continues.

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June 06, 2023, 11:29:26 AM
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Dortmund wasted their championship opportunity too easy by not even being able to win against an aimless team on the last week of the season. This can't be acceptable even though they have still had a solid season. The ending shouldn't have been like this. I assume Dortmund have no reasonable explanation to this result either. It was like they already secured the title so they just didn't care about the match. The first half of it was exactly like that and that effort in the second half wasn't enough as a result.

Terzic surely had a good season anyway by staying in the title race until the end. But he also needs to learn his lesson from this kind of poor ending. Dortmund normally don't care about whether they become the champions but when they have another chance they should know how to make use of it.

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Now, with a quite striking defeat to Hamburg in the playoffs, it is certain that Stuttgart will still be in the bundesliga next season and will still be competing in the highest competition.
Heidenheim and Darmstadt also joined to replace Schalke and Hertha who had to be relegated.
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June 06, 2023, 03:00:32 PM
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Now, with a quite striking defeat to Hamburg in the playoffs, it is certain that Stuttgart will still be in the bundesliga next season and will still be competing in the highest competition.
Heidenheim and Darmstadt also joined to replace Schalke and Hertha who had to be relegated.
Will these promoted clubs eventually make something interesting or is it the same as Schalke which keeps repeating itself in the Bundesliga and Bundesliga 2. It is quite interesting to wait about this.
Stuttgart made it through the relegation play-off round well and got two wins in the two legs of the match. I'm quite happy with Stuttgart's success in being able to return to the bundesliga, but I don't expect too much from this team because for sure they will still be in the bottom place in the bundesliga next season.

I'm really looking forward to Heidenheim and Darmstadt who will get their turn to have the opportunity to play in the bundesliga and both of them are also doing a good job to be able to compete in the bundesliga next season, maybe it's really quite a shame that Schalke, who was previously one of the strongest teams in the bundesliga, now has to accept the fate of going down to the second division bundesliga.

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June 06, 2023, 04:02:57 PM
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In the end, Stuttgart really didn't want to be beaten by Hamburger SV. In fact, in the second leg which was played at home to Hamburger SV, at least Hamburger SV could have better statistics and that allowed Hamburger SV to be able to win even if only by 1-0. But in the second half Stuttgart again scored three goals and ended the second leg with a final score of 1-3 and that means Stuttgart managed to win 6-1 on aggregate. With these results, of course, Stuttgart remains a team that deserves to play in the Bundesliga next season.

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June 06, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

I think this elimination system is not very fair. After all, Stuttgart plays in the Bundesliga and its quality is better than Bundesliga 2. I think it is not right for the third-placed team in the Bundesliga to play the play-offs with the Bundesliga team. I wish there was a fairer system. Anyway, congratulations to Stuttgart, they continue to stay in the league.

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June 06, 2023, 04:05:59 PM
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Ole Werner extended his contract with werder bremen today. i think ole werner has done a good job in bremen and deserves this new contract.
and borussia mönchengladbach also presented a new coach today. his name: Gerardo Seoane. he previously coached Bayer 04 leverkusen.
44-year-old Seoane wants to bring mönchengladbach back to the top. 10th place like last season is too little for this good club.
wow Seoane can plan the new team with Nils Schmadtke. because Schmadke is the new sport director at mönchengladbach.

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June 06, 2023, 04:09:48 PM
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Hamburger started the match very well and they managed to get a goal in the first minutes of the match but they didn't created many opportunities in the remaining minutes of the first half, Stuttgart coaching was very good and they managed to score 3 goals in the second half and easily remain in the bundesliga

I saw how many hamburg fans are hoping a lot once their favorite club was making the first goal but stuttgart was making it evne worst by making three goals against hamburg in a row. it must be also an evaluation for hamburg for next season about what has become the main weakness of hamburg. At least hamburger has been trying so hard in the last match, even though it was failed, but it deserves so many appreciations from us.

GGWP for stuttgart. This is easy game for anyone. Stuttgart was just making perfect result in the first or second leg.

What a great game from stuttgart to defense its position in bundesliga.

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June 06, 2023, 04:10:23 PM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

I was sure that Stuttgart would be able to qualify for the Bundesliga. However, after Hamburger scored in the sixth minute of the match, I thought the match would be very competitive. The hamburger will try their best to win this match. Hamburger had a good first-half performance. Despite several good attacks, they could not break down Stuttgart's defense. However, in the second half, Stuttgart made an excellent comeback. Enzo Milot scored a goal just 3 minutes into the second half to level the match at 1-1. And in the 65th minute, Stuttgart took the lead in the match with another goal. And in the last 90 minutes, another goal in the match gave Stuttgart a wonderful victory of 3-1. Stuttgart played well in both matches against Hamburger.
The game between Stuttgart and Hamburger was an exhilarating demonstration of tenacity and fortitude. Hamburger seized the lead right away but Stuttgart did not let it stop them. They kept their cool and launched a constant assault in the second half. Early on Enzo Milot goal gave the team new life and essentially tied the game. Stuttgart perseverance paid off as they took the lead in the 65th minute showcasing their aptitude at taking advantage of circumstances. Stuttgart demonstrated their skill and consistency in both games against Hamburger by winning brilliantly 3-1. This game is evidence of Stuttgart's unwavering spirit and their capacity to change and excel in trying circumstances.

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June 06, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
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In the end, Stuttgart really didn't want to be beaten by Hamburger SV. In fact, in the second leg which was played at home to Hamburger SV, at least Hamburger SV could have better statistics and that allowed Hamburger SV to be able to win even if only by 1-0. But in the second half Stuttgart again scored three goals and ended the second leg with a final score of 1-3 and that means Stuttgart managed to win 6-1 on aggregate. With these results, of course, Stuttgart remains a team that deserves to play in the Bundesliga next season.

I think everything was clear after the first game and the players of Hamburg did not believe in a positive outcome - with such a mood (objectively justified when the result of the whole season has already been lost) it is difficult to win even with a minimum score (which will not give anything anyway). Plus, by the end of the season, Stuttgart got in good shape (by the way, they took away points from Dortmund by drawing with it - as it turns out, this was way important) and therefore they easily won the second game as well.

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June 06, 2023, 04:58:14 PM
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In the end, Stuttgart really didn't want to be beaten by Hamburger SV. In fact, in the second leg which was played at home to Hamburger SV, at least Hamburger SV could have better statistics and that allowed Hamburger SV to be able to win even if only by 1-0. But in the second half Stuttgart again scored three goals and ended the second leg with a final score of 1-3 and that means Stuttgart managed to win 6-1 on aggregate. With these results, of course, Stuttgart remains a team that deserves to play in the Bundesliga next season.
I think everything was clear after the first game and the players of Hamburg did not believe in a positive outcome - with such a mood (objectively justified when the result of the whole season has already been lost) it is difficult to win even with a minimum score (which will not give anything anyway). Plus, by the end of the season, Stuttgart got in good shape (by the way, they took away points from Dortmund by drawing with it - as it turns out, this was way important) and therefore they easily won the second game as well.

Hamburger's players were not confident. On the other hand, Stuttgart played well in the first match. They got a great win. After a 3–0 win in the first leg, qualification for the Bundesliga was almost certain for Stuttgart. After the defeat in the first match, Hamburger's players lost confidence. And so they could not perform well in the second leg match. They also conceded three goals in the home match of the second leg. However, I am happy that Stuttgart qualified for the Bundesliga. Because in the last few matches, Stuttgart has been in good form. It is expected that Stuttgart will be at a safe distance from the relegation zone next season.

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June 06, 2023, 05:13:58 PM
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Werder Bremen have had poor results this season and they were only able to finish 13th in the standings. I think after getting back into the bundesliga this season they will be much better but it seems that the results are not always good. As we know, in the 20/21 season Werder Bremen dropped to division 2 of the bundesliga and were only able to return this season in the highest competition of the bundesliga, but were almost in the relegation zone with a difference of 3 points. I think they need to start next season with even more motivation to get to a better place, we know that Werder Bremen were one of the strongest teams in the early 2000s and Miroslav Klose played many seasons at this club.

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June 06, 2023, 05:42:12 PM
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Werder Bremen have had poor results this season and they were only able to finish 13th in the standings. I think after getting back into the bundesliga this season they will be much better but it seems that the results are not always good. As we know, in the 20/21 season Werder Bremen dropped to division 2 of the bundesliga and were only able to return this season in the highest competition of the bundesliga, but were almost in the relegation zone with a difference of 3 points. I think they need to start next season with even more motivation to get to a better place, we know that Werder Bremen were one of the strongest teams in the early 2000s and Miroslav Klose played many seasons at this club.

I think most of the fans of Werder Bremen are aware that the glorious days of Werder from the early 2000's, were they really were a tough contender of Bayern Munich and even managed to win the Bundesliga title, are over for a long time now. I even think that it is extremely unlikely or even impossible, that Werder will be a top 4 club in Germany again within the next 10 years or so. For that to happen they would need a big investor from outside or stuff like that, but given the fact that in Germany the club needs to hold at least 51% of it's shares themself basically means that there won't be a sheikh or oligarch coming in like it happens often in England.
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June 06, 2023, 07:26:21 PM
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Werder Bremen have had poor results this season and they were only able to finish 13th in the standings. I think after getting back into the bundesliga this season they will be much better but it seems that the results are not always good. As we know, in the 20/21 season Werder Bremen dropped to division 2 of the bundesliga and were only able to return this season in the highest competition of the bundesliga, but were almost in the relegation zone with a difference of 3 points. I think they need to start next season with even more motivation to get to a better place, we know that Werder Bremen were one of the strongest teams in the early 2000s and Miroslav Klose played many seasons at this club.

I think most of the fans of Werder Bremen are aware that the glorious days of Werder from the early 2000's, were they really were a tough contender of Bayern Munich and even managed to win the Bundesliga title, are over for a long time now. I even think that it is extremely unlikely or even impossible, that Werder will be a top 4 club in Germany again within the next 10 years or so. For that to happen they would need a big investor from outside or stuff like that, but given the fact that in Germany the club needs to hold at least 51% of it's shares themself basically means that there won't be a sheikh or oligarch coming in like it happens often in England.
That is indeed an old story and they also hope but of course they realize that it is too far to be pursued now.
The current conditions for Werder are only in the best competition in the bundesliga, which is good, in my opinion, at least they are not in a lower caste. As for indeed, if they want something much more than this then they really need a lot of capital and they now realize that they don't have enough resources for that.

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June 06, 2023, 07:48:37 PM
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Dortmund wasted their championship opportunity too easy by not even being able to win against an aimless team on the last week of the season. This can't be acceptable even though they have still had a solid season. The ending shouldn't have been like this. I assume Dortmund have no reasonable explanation to this result either. It was like they already secured the title so they just didn't care about the match. The first half of it was exactly like that and that effort in the second half wasn't enough as a result.

Terzic surely had a good season anyway by staying in the title race until the end. But he also needs to learn his lesson from this kind of poor ending. Dortmund normally don't care about whether they become the champions but when they have another chance they should know how to make use of it.

This must be the biggest nonsense I have read today.
Dortmund doesn't care if they become champions, are you serious??
So what are they playing for if not for the championship?

In the last years Dortmund is basically the only contender Bayern has that has been kind of always there.

The only difference is that this year they had 1 hand on the trophy and just couldn't get it done. They basically lost it and handed it to Bayern.
But not wanting to become champions is just hilarious.

The other thing you said about the last game is nonsense as well, "they just didn't care about the match". Did you even see the game? You claim they played like they don't care, haha. 29:10 shots and 73% possession, and they didn't care.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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June 06, 2023, 08:30:22 PM
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Werder Bremen have had poor results this season and they were only able to finish 13th in the standings. I think after getting back into the bundesliga this season they will be much better but it seems that the results are not always good. As we know, in the 20/21 season Werder Bremen dropped to division 2 of the bundesliga and were only able to return this season in the highest competition of the bundesliga, but were almost in the relegation zone with a difference of 3 points. I think they need to start next season with even more motivation to get to a better place, we know that Werder Bremen were one of the strongest teams in the early 2000s and Miroslav Klose played many seasons at this club.
I think most of the fans of Werder Bremen are aware that the glorious days of Werder from the early 2000's, were they really were a tough contender of Bayern Munich and even managed to win the Bundesliga title, are over for a long time now. I even think that it is extremely unlikely or even impossible, that Werder will be a top 4 club in Germany again within the next 10 years or so. For that to happen they would need a big investor from outside or stuff like that, but given the fact that in Germany the club needs to hold at least 51% of it's shares themself basically means that there won't be a sheikh or oligarch coming in like it happens often in England.
Sometimes teams like these and their fans needs to accept the fact that you can't do as much as you think you can, it is just not possible and shouldn't be the aim. I mean they used to be decent that's true but they never dominated the league anyway, they were never amazing for too long, their last title was 20 years ago and since then they never won again, that means they weren't really all that amazing to begin with.

However, if you consider them as a midtable team, then we could see that they may had some bad seasons here and there, like this year, but they always find a way to get better. I can see them be a top 4 team just next season, or at least top 6 team at worst, that's a good thing and I believe they can do that with a few good moves during the summer period.

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