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June 13, 2023, 06:15:45 AM
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Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.
Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.
In the previous season, Mane played very well for the attacking line, he even had several goals with quite a lot of assists, but he was treated quite badly by the team he defended.
There are several English teams after him and this will be a great opportunity for Mane to prove that Bayern Munich have treated him badly so that they will regret what he did for wasting Mane.
After all, several English teams targeting Mane are also big teams.

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June 13, 2023, 06:39:07 AM
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In fact i have tried to review it in some 50+1 related posts. in effect, private investors cannot take over the club and potentially push for moves that prioritize profits over the wishes of the supporters. The ruling simultaneously protects reckless owners and protects the democratic habits of German clubs.

Historically, the German team was a non-profit organization run by member associations, and until 1998 private ownership of any kind was prohibited. the 50+1 rule, introduced that year, helps explain why debts and wages are under control and why ticket prices are so low compared to other European leagues. This rule makes it difficult for the Bundesliga to develop like other leagues. and as we know, Bayern Munich is the richest club in this competition. while the other is RB Leipzig which is sponsored by Red Bull. this should not be allowed. but in various ways, finally RB leipzig is the club that found a way to bypass the rules. although funded by Red Bull, instead of organizing itself as a "members" association with all "members" being Red Bull employees, therefore, the 50+1 rule would not apply.

The point is, with rules like this, don't ever expect that this league will be competitive.

That's it. Unlike EPL which was giving billionaire to acquire more than 50% of shares from the club. Bundesliga was preventing it. It was making bundesliga less interested. Im sure that if bundesliga will be very competitive once the big investors will be allowed to take a part by buying the majority of shares from a club. I hope that if bundesliga will be able to change it in the future. The rich team was always dominating the league. Look at how bayern was always winning bundesliga for more than a decade. that's pretty sad to see that this league is slowly evolving compared with another league.
I hope that such rules will be reconsider again in the future. Im not saying bundesliga must be doing it now. I hope only if 50+1 will be removed from the regulation in bundesliga.
It was hurting a small club that has no good financial condition.

I don't wanna see bayern to win bundesliga in a row for two decades without even stop. That will make bundesliga look like a true farmer league.

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June 13, 2023, 07:27:44 AM
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If the Champions League Final was between Bayern Munich and Man City, the odds would have been high for both clubs as a fearful display would have been envisaged. But unfortunately, the mightiest ones had been knocked out before the final, I guess it was the lucky time for Man City. Talking about coaches, I will always say that those people thinking that professional and well-qualified coaches are the problem of a club at times are just being naive, what has Tuchel done in the club so far?

Let's see how the next season would play out with the guy and the club, it's too early for me to judge, let him start and complete a season first.

City beat Bayern before the final, so don't say it could have been a tougher match, because City beat Bayern very confidently.
If Tuchel did not have time to do anything in the team, then why was it necessary to change the coach at this stage? I'm still very skeptical about Tuchel, I think he won't last long as head coach, he's too impulsive and the Bayern players won't be able to work with such a coach.

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June 13, 2023, 09:07:15 AM
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That's absolutely one of the worst mistake that Bayern Munich did in the previous season, the club was very strong in the UCL and everyone was afraid from playing against them but after they changed the coach everything start running in another direction, it's true that the oppenet was Manchester city but the results and the preformence of the club in both matches wss very bad
The director was rushing to replace naglesmann with tuchel. Their expectation didn't even meet. I did believe if bayern director was expect treble winners by signed tuchel at the end of season but it has become a boomerang for all of them.
The team has been performing so smoothly with naglesmann as a coach but bayern director was destroying it. It has been rumored if director was making such decision caused by they were worrying if tuchel will be taken by another club.
As long as naglesmann would able to give UCL and another domestic trophies and why not? I hope that oliver kahn will be learning from his mistake.
he shall never try to replace the coach once the team was playing so well under him. It will not really give impact to the performance from the club.
It will make the players feel awkward with the new coach as it has been giving a short time to adapt.

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June 13, 2023, 01:27:02 PM
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That's it. Unlike EPL which was giving billionaire to acquire more than 50% of shares from the club. Bundesliga was preventing it. It was making bundesliga less interested. Im sure that if bundesliga will be very competitive once the big investors will be allowed to take a part by buying the majority of shares from a club. I hope that if bundesliga will be able to change it in the future. The rich team was always dominating the league. Look at how bayern was always winning bundesliga for more than a decade. that's pretty sad to see that this league is slowly evolving compared with another league.
I hope that such rules will be reconsider again in the future. Im not saying bundesliga must be doing it now. I hope only if 50+1 will be removed from the regulation in bundesliga.
It was hurting a small club that has no good financial condition.

I don't wanna see bayern to win bundesliga in a row for two decades without even stop. That will make bundesliga look like a true farmer league.
Primer League better for manage by the new owner because there are has rule with full share and difference with Bundesliga and La Liga competition because the owner can monopoly or 100% share in one team. Seems its difficult why Bundesliga teams not really compete when bringin star player and faced difficult with financial, I am not sure rule in Bundesliga above 50% share for the owner will change at the future.

Regarding what happen with Union Berlin, fans has dominance controlling with shareholding and I don't sure how they can compete for participants in Champion League next season with low budget. Not bring star or compete player make them difficult how qualify from group stage exactly when drawing schedule against with bigger teams.

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June 13, 2023, 01:54:57 PM
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Bayern Munich hopes are certainly on Mane. As a replacement for Lewandoski. But Mane has had a difficult season. Had a good debut, but in some matches Mane performed poorly and even argued with Sane in one team. But Mane jiga is not bad, he can score 12 goals and 6 passes. So I think he just needs some adaptation time. But I don't understand if he will stay or leave. I saw on social media that he was in demand by clubs from Saudi Arab.
Mane wasn't comfortable at all with Bayern Munich at a point he received a fine from them because of that. His performance dropped and he is getting annoyed to keep playing in Bundesliga in my opinion. I read weeks ago that he was thinking about moving out of Germany. I think he wants to get back to England and he might move to Saudi Arabia if they offer to him a good reward.
In the previous season, Mane played very well for the attacking line, he even had several goals with quite a lot of assists, but he was treated quite badly by the team he defended.
There are several English teams after him and this will be a great opportunity for Mane to prove that Bayern Munich have treated him badly so that they will regret what he did for wasting Mane.
After all, several English teams targeting Mane are also big teams.

As successful as Sadio Mane was with Liverpool, he did not perform as well with Bayern Munich. However, Bayern Munich's overall performance last season was poor. Sadio Mane was added to the Bayern Munich squad as Lewandowski's replacement. Lewandowski is a scorer. Mane could never be a suitable choice as Lewa's replacement. Bayern Munich management has not been able to select the right players for their squad. I will be happy if Mane joins a Premier League team again. Newcastle could be a good option for Mane.

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Maybe Freiburg failed to secure a place in the champions league next season, but at least they still get the chance to play in the European league. I think their performance this season in the bundesliga is not too bad because they managed to finish 5th in the standings and they proved that they can compete with other top 4 teams during this competition. In the next season we will still see Freiburg to threaten the top 4 position and I'm pretty sure they will not give up to be able to repeat the same thing as this year. It's just that Freiburg has to add several new players to strengthen their performance so that they are more stable for the upcoming bundesliga.

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Maybe Freiburg failed to secure a place in the champions league next season, but at least they still get the chance to play in the European league. I think their performance this season in the bundesliga is not too bad because they managed to finish 5th in the standings and they proved that they can compete with other top 4 teams during this competition. In the next season we will still see Freiburg to threaten the top 4 position and I'm pretty sure they will not give up to be able to repeat the same thing as this year. It's just that Freiburg has to add several new players to strengthen their performance so that they are more stable for the upcoming bundesliga.

What I just noticed. Freiburg was at place 2 before the long winter break. On the first matchday after the winter break, they were at place 4  and did not get any higher after that. I remember that they had loaned out Keven Schade in January. He was an important player for Freiburg until then. They also loaned Keven Schlotterbeck to Bochum. That was certainly two of the reasons why they did not make it back to the top 3.
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June 13, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
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Maybe Freiburg failed to secure a place in the champions league next season, but at least they still get the chance to play in the European league. I think their performance this season in the bundesliga is not too bad because they managed to finish 5th in the standings and they proved that they can compete with other top 4 teams during this competition. In the next season we will still see Freiburg to threaten the top 4 position and I'm pretty sure they will not give up to be able to repeat the same thing as this year. It's just that Freiburg has to add several new players to strengthen their performance so that they are more stable for the upcoming bundesliga.
What I just noticed. Freiburg was at place 2 before the long winter break. On the first matchday after the winter break, they were at place 4  and did not get any higher after that. I remember that they had loaned out Keven Schade in January. He was an important player for Freiburg until then. They also loaned Keven Schlotterbeck to Bochum. That was certainly two of the reasons why they did not make it back to the top 3.

Freiburg's performances this season have not been great. The team's performance was erratic. Their squad was not strong enough. Freiburg's attack was quite weak. They still managed to finish fifth in the table. I would say this is a big achievement for them. If the Freiburg management improves their attack next season, this team will be even stronger. I think Freiburg will play for the Europa League title next season. And if the attack is strong, Freiburg will be the favorite to win the Europa League title.

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June 13, 2023, 02:38:04 PM
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That's absolutely one of the worst mistake that Bayern Munich did in the previous season, the club was very strong in the UCL and everyone was afraid from playing against them but after they changed the coach everything start running in another direction, it's true that the oppenet was Manchester city but the results and the preformence of the club in both matches wss very bad
The director was rushing to replace naglesmann with tuchel. Their expectation didn't even meet. I did believe if bayern director was expect treble winners by signed tuchel at the end of season but it has become a boomerang for all of them.
The team has been performing so smoothly with naglesmann as a coach but bayern director was destroying it. It has been rumored if director was making such decision caused by they were worrying if tuchel will be taken by another club.
As long as naglesmann would able to give UCL and another domestic trophies and why not? I hope that oliver kahn will be learning from his mistake.
he shall never try to replace the coach once the team was playing so well under him. It will not really give impact to the performance from the club.
It will make the players feel awkward with the new coach as it has been giving a short time to adapt.
Changing coaches when the team's performance is good and the schedule is busy is a big mistake by Bayern's management, Tuchel is actually a good coach but the timing was not right when he first came to handle the Bayern team.
but Bayern are very lucky to still get the Bundesliga trophy because of the big mistake Dortmund made in the last match.

For next season, I believe in the process that Tuchel will carry out to build the Bayern team, hoping for a treble winner might be too much but I think Bayern's performance will be much better next season.
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June 13, 2023, 02:54:45 PM
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In the case of Mane, the initiator of the breakup can be not only a football player, but also Bayern Munich itself, because I do not think that the history of the fight between Mane and Sane has been forgotten in the club, and as you know, Bayern is quite scrupulous about such reputational and psychological moments and their impact on the microclimate in the team. In principle, we could try to close our eyes to this if Mane was playing well for the club and he brought invaluable help to the team, but on this front, too, everything is not as successful as the Bayern bosses would like.
At least mane is still having interest to stay in the club even longer. That's not a problem for the bayern to see him stay in the club. So far, sadio mane's contribution was not so big. The problem is if there must be some changes in the club.
I saw that how hard bayern was trying to win bundesliga at the end of season. It seems like that tuchel was not feeling confidence with the current composition from the club.
Cancelo has been going back again to the manchester city and bayern is now looking for his replacement.
I hope that bayern's performance will even more stable from time to the time. Tuchel needs to make some changes in the attacking lines of bayern.
Mane has been rumored with some EPL clubs but i think that rumor was fake rumor.

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June 13, 2023, 03:14:22 PM
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Maybe Freiburg failed to secure a place in the champions league next season, but at least they still get the chance to play in the European league. I think their performance this season in the bundesliga is not too bad because they managed to finish 5th in the standings and they proved that they can compete with other top 4 teams during this competition. In the next season we will still see Freiburg to threaten the top 4 position and I'm pretty sure they will not give up to be able to repeat the same thing as this year. It's just that Freiburg has to add several new players to strengthen their performance so that they are more stable for the upcoming bundesliga.
What I just noticed. Freiburg was at place 2 before the long winter break. On the first matchday after the winter break, they were at place 4  and did not get any higher after that. I remember that they had loaned out Keven Schade in January. He was an important player for Freiburg until then. They also loaned Keven Schlotterbeck to Bochum. That was certainly two of the reasons why they did not make it back to the top 3.

Freiburg's performances this season have not been great. The team's performance was erratic. Their squad was not strong enough. Freiburg's attack was quite weak. They still managed to finish fifth in the table. I would say this is a big achievement for them. If the Freiburg management improves their attack next season, this team will be even stronger. I think Freiburg will play for the Europa League title next season. And if the attack is strong, Freiburg will be the favorite to win the Europa League title.
Talking about Freiburg attacking lines currently they have Michael Gregoritsch who has scores 15 goals in all competitions and this is not impressive records indeed but so far he is the best striker which Freiburg has and besides him Freiburg also has talented midfielder Vincenzo Grifo and this players so far as top scorer Freiburg but i think they have to agree with you that Freiburg have to strengthen their attacking lines and bought some players on that position this because compared to other strikers only Gregoritsch who can able to performing well

Freiburg achievement is not so different liked last season that they still able to finish at europa league spots and currently Freiburg has been starting to hunting new players to strengthen their squad and the latest is they have reach an agreement with Stuttgart to get Florian Müller and Freiburg still under negotiation with Salzburg for transfer Junior Adamu and this is potential player because with Salzburg he has scores 14 goals in all competitions

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The director was rushing to replace naglesmann with tuchel. Their expectation didn't even meet. I did believe if bayern director was expect treble winners by signed tuchel at the end of season but it has become a boomerang for all of them.
The team has been performing so smoothly with naglesmann as a coach but bayern director was destroying it. It has been rumored if director was making such decision caused by they were worrying if tuchel will be taken by another club.
As long as naglesmann would able to give UCL and another domestic trophies and why not? I hope that oliver kahn will be learning from his mistake.
he shall never try to replace the coach once the team was playing so well under him. It will not really give impact to the performance from the club.
It will make the players feel awkward with the new coach as it has been giving a short time to adapt.
I think Tuchel hasn't made his touch yet, he has been managing the team for a while not but not that many games and he luckily got the win the title but that doesn't mean that this is the best he can turn this club into. Let's give him this summer and lets see what kind of moves the team will make and what kind of players they will put on the field, if Tuchel ends up with the summer period and the summer camp, then I am pretty sure that they are going to end up with a good result without a doubt.

I think it's clear that he hasn't been able to make the players end up playing the way he wants them to play, but with summer camp they will end up playing a lot better and they will understand his tactics and the results will be better next season.

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If the Champions League Final was between Bayern Munich and Man City, the odds would have been high for both clubs as a fearful display would have been envisaged. But unfortunately, the mightiest ones had been knocked out before the final, I guess it was the lucky time for Man City. Talking about coaches, I will always say that those people thinking that professional and well-qualified coaches are the problem of a club at times are just being naive, what has Tuchel done in the club so far?

Let's see how the next season would play out with the guy and the club, it's too early for me to judge, let him start and complete a season first.
Bayern Munich and Manchester City Champions League Final would have surely been a matchup of titans with strong odds for both teams given their illustrious histories. But destiny had other ideas and the strongest contenders lost before the championship game seemingly opening the door for a lucky break for Manchester City. When it comes to coaching it is crucial to avoid being naive and attributing all of a club issues to knowledgeable and experienced people. Regarding Thomas Tuchel it is too soon to pass final judgement on his time spent working for the team. Let him experience an entire season from beginning to end and observe the results before making a firm view. The actual potential of the person and the group he leads will only become clear with time.

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June 13, 2023, 04:02:57 PM
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I think Tuchel hasn't made his touch yet, he has been managing the team for a while not but not that many games and he luckily got the win the title but that doesn't mean that this is the best he can turn this club into. Let's give him this summer and lets see what kind of moves the team will make and what kind of players they will put on the field, if Tuchel ends up with the summer period and the summer camp, then I am pretty sure that they are going to end up with a good result without a doubt.
Tuchel was lucky enough in the last match of bundesliga. Dortmund was almost winning it. I don't think so. Tuchel must have adapted with the available players in the club. That's the consequence of replacing naglesmann once the competitions were still running.
I do agree with you to give tuchel sometimes to rebuild the club. We will see what's gonna happen to him after summer will have passed.

I think it's clear that he hasn't been able to make the players end up playing the way he wants them to play, but with summer camp they will end up playing a lot better and they will understand his tactics and the results will be better next season.
I hope so but i remember his last tranfers in chelsea which was failed. I hope he will not repeat the same mistake in bayern munchen.

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June 13, 2023, 04:41:31 PM
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Tuchel was lucky enough in the last match of bundesliga. Dortmund was almost winning it. I don't think so. Tuchel must have adapted with the available players in the club. That's the consequence of replacing naglesmann once the competitions were still running.
I do agree with you to give tuchel sometimes to rebuild the club. We will see what's gonna happen to him after summer will have passed.
Tuchel is a very good Coach and Trainer for sure and Bayern Munich wanted him some years ago as he was in still in Chelsea.
I guess it is and was the whole situation inside the Club of Bayern Munich that has made some problems to the Team.
There was a lot of heat in the Club with the managment and all how the things where handled.
If all calmed down and the new season will be started we can say more about the future of Bayern Munich.

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June 13, 2023, 04:55:15 PM
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Tuchel was lucky enough in the last match of bundesliga. Dortmund was almost winning it. I don't think so. Tuchel must have adapted with the available players in the club. That's the consequence of replacing naglesmann once the competitions were still running.
I do agree with you to give tuchel sometimes to rebuild the club. We will see what's gonna happen to him after summer will have passed.
Tuchel is a very good Coach and Trainer for sure and Bayern Munich wanted him some years ago as he was in still in Chelsea.
I guess it is and was the whole situation inside the Club of Bayern Munich that has made some problems to the Team.
There was a lot of heat in the Club with the managment and all how the things where handled.
If all calmed down and the new season will be started we can say more about the future of Bayern Munich.

Tuchel still looks good because Bayern Munich won the title, of course it would be a different situation and condition if Bayern Munich failed to win the Bundesliga trophy this season. But yes, because that has passed then of course, because the new season is about to start then of course it will be a good time for Tuchel to build the team the way he wants. After all, I personally don't doubt Tuchel's quality in building a team, but when it comes to the Bundesliga title this season I consider it just luck because Dortmund couldn't beat Mainz in their last game.

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June 13, 2023, 04:59:59 PM
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Tuchel is a very good Coach and Trainer for sure and Bayern Munich wanted him some years ago as he was in still in Chelsea.
I guess it is and was the whole situation inside the Club of Bayern Munich that has made some problems to the Team.
There was a lot of heat in the Club with the managment and all how the things where handled.
If all calmed down and the new season will be started we can say more about the future of Bayern Munich.
I imagine that if Tuchel was still with Chelsea, perhaps the situation for the Blues would not be as bad as it is now. Tuchel is considered out of sync by Todd. We can see today's Bayern Munich, they have won the title over Dortmund. Tuchel is a great coach and very lucky. On the other hand, I see Dortmund, which has experienced something unexpected, it's quite sad to see it. Dortmund only need to win in their last game to become champions, the Bundesliga title is in sight but everyone will not expect Dortmund to have to swallow the bitter pill for the reality that has happened. I hope Tuchel will stay as coach of Bayern Munich because after seeing this I am even more convinced that he is the best coach for Bayern Munich.

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Tuchel still looks good because Bayern Munich won the title, of course it would be a different situation and condition if Bayern Munich failed to win the Bundesliga trophy this season. But yes, because that has passed then of course, because the new season is about to start then of course it will be a good time for Tuchel to build the team the way he wants. After all, I personally don't doubt Tuchel's quality in building a team, but when it comes to the Bundesliga title this season I consider it just luck because Dortmund couldn't beat Mainz in their last game.

Tuchel is a good coach at the moment, even though they failed in the Champions does not mean he is a bad coach for Bayern Munich, and yes at least they got the Bundesliga Trophy this season, but for next season we think Tuchel and Bayern Munich will improve With his team as much as possible, Tuchel will certainly have the opportunity next season to continue his desire at the Bayern Munich club.

Even though in the Bundesliga they are not far ahead of the standings below them, namely Dormuntd, I still think that Tuchel is a good coach for the Bayern Munich club, and he will build a better team going forward and especially when the new season starts, we will see significant changes. both from Bayern Munich and we are looking forward to him from Bayern Munich next season.
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June 13, 2023, 05:56:26 PM
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Tuchel is a very good Coach and Trainer for sure and Bayern Munich wanted him some years ago as he was in still in Chelsea.
I guess it is and was the whole situation inside the Club of Bayern Munich that has made some problems to the Team.
There was a lot of heat in the Club with the managment and all how the things where handled.
If all calmed down and the new season will be started we can say more about the future of Bayern Munich.

The fact that the club got rid of Kahn and Salihamidzic did not solve all the problems at all. For example, I see a problem with Neuer - he is old and after a terrible injury - he needs to be changed, but even the dismissal of his coach led to a scandal. In addition, Bayern should be strengthened by top players - against the background of other top clubs that buy tops, Bayern's acquisitions look weak. I think in the summer it will be clear that the next season for Bayern will be a failure/weak.

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