Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[swogerino]

Dortmund has built players who you can no mention their name twice in the all world now, I really agreed with your statement saying they are not after Bundesliga title because if the want they will get it, Robert Lewandowski was their product which move to Bayern Munich than later to Barcelona and is still doing great, take a look at Haaland has taken Manchester City to the next level by win so many trophies, look at Jude Bellingham that recently joined Real Madrid and gradually make name there, Jude Bellingham scored in every matches he has played, now people see him as future Ballon d'Or winner due to his playing habit. I Don think Dortmund really need Bundesliga title rather they prefer business.

Germay teams don't have what it take to pull a tough battle for the the Bundesliga this season, perhaps this season kind of seems quite different due to the current standings on the table with Bayer Leverkusen that totally understands the entire operations of these teams. Borrusia Dortmund is the only consistent contender with Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title every season. But they have woefully failed due to the one repetitive mistakes they kept making. That's selling their important players to elite sides in every transfer summer, it's not longer amazing because they do make quite good figures from these players.

It strikes me that they do so now this season, both Bayern Leverkusen and Stuggart has already a good start in the first nine Bundesliga games.
They will have to do double of what they do now to keep the consistency and also maintaining the level they occupy on the Bundesliga League table.
Borrussia Dortmund are gamblers, they're not really ready. They're just down for business. The developments of young players into top players and the sell for profit. It could be that they make a lot of profits from that.
The fans haven't complained about it too.

I think from the teams mentioned here Bayer Leverkussen has the true potential to contend for the title until the end of the Bundesliga,they seem compact,they won against Leipzig and they drew at Bayern Munchen home so they are really in a great form.They are also consistent which is a different feature compared to Leipzig for example as even Leipzig has been contending for the title in these last couple of years but clearly lacking consistency.

Dortmund is a great team but that has shown big fragility when they need the most to win the games,remember last game of last season where they lost the title at their home soil.

[len01]

Dortmund need money and making money by selling players is their main business. If these 5 players mentioned by you were in Dortmund's  squad at the same time, then Dortmund could have dominated Europe. They were also champions of the Bundesliga. Even for the Champions League title, there were hot favourites. But Dortmund have to make money. They will not keep any player in their squad for long. But the  Dortmund management is very talented. They can spot young talent. At the same time these talented players can be developed into experienced ones. If they didn't get it right, maybe we wouldn't have great players like Haaland, Lewa and Bellingham.

we have the same thoughts and I have previously said this regarding some of these players, but we cannot go against Dortmund decision to always prioritize selling players over the titles they have to win. If we look at Dortmund history, this team has always had talented players and has always been successful in creating new talents for them to sell to all european teams.
and if we want to count how many Dortmund players have been spread across European teams, its definitely a lot and I think its all just about the investors who fund the team and then get large amounts of that money.

and I also thought that in fact Dortmund is trying to prioritize titles in several competitions, of course the players who will be sold have very high value but for some reason Dortmund management does not try this method to get more money when player manages to score and bring victory in the competition like UCL.

until now, Dortmund fans can only hope that Dortmund will immediately end this way of working and occasionally win prestigious title.

[Oneandpure]

Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

[QueenVera]

I think from the teams mentioned here Bayer Leverkussen has the true potential to contend for the title until the end of the Bundesliga,they seem compact,they won against Leipzig and they drew at Bayern Munchen home so they are really in a great form.They are also consistent which is a different feature compared to Leipzig for example as even Leipzig has been contending for the title in these last couple of years but clearly lacking consistency.

Dortmund is a great team but that has shown big fragility when they need the most to win the games,remember last game of last season where they lost the title at their home soil.

Well you're right cause their performance is very brilliant this season and they're one of the teams that's given Bayern Munich a tough time this season, they don't have a squad full of top class players, but they understand themselves and have good team spirit coupled with a young and vibrant coach with lots of ambitions, though Leipzig are also one of the strong contenders for the league and have given Bayern a tough time even defeated them in a final, but Leverkusen are better than them in consistency and would finish above them as well.

 Dortmund didn't show great concern like they did last season , though they're still unbeaten in the league which means if they had put more effort from the beginning of the league, they would had been ín the position of Leverkusen on the standings, well they're on the right track and currently in top 4.

[Strongkored]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Why did you include Sancho? For this player, it seems like the decision to sell him was the right thing, as proven at Manchester United, he wasn't that impressive and is now having problems with the team's coach.
Meanwhile, for the other names, it is quite agreeable that if Dortmund does not sell this player, perhaps Dortmund will be able to break Bayern Munich's dominance, but again it is just maybe, so it is not a certainty that by keeping this player Dortmund will turn out to be very strong, but a strong team is of course because they have good players, but retaining good players costs money so Dortmund doesn't seem to have that ability so they have to let these players go

[Velvet78]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Why did you include Sancho? For this player, it seems like the decision to sell him was the right thing, as proven at Manchester United, he wasn't that impressive and is now having problems with the team's coach.
Meanwhile, for the other names, it is quite agreeable that if Dortmund does not sell this player, perhaps Dortmund will be able to break Bayern Munich's dominance, but again it is just maybe, so it is not a certainty that by keeping this player Dortmund will turn out to be very strong, but a strong team is of course because they have good players, but retaining good players costs money so Dortmund doesn't seem to have that ability so they have to let these players go

Jadon Sancho wasn't impressive to you when he was playing for Dortmund? You can just check his statistics back then and rethink about what you said mate. 

Sancho was doing an amazing work at Dortmund. He was productive in every way like goals and assists both. Dortmund had a chance to make a huge profit in his sale and they just continued to apply their usual policy. They have sold so many players like this. Yeah maybe Sancho couldn't adapt to Manchester United but he isn't actually a bad player at the end of the day.

[Hyphen(-)]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Dortmund is a team that has always been blessed with good attacking players and strikers. Just imagine if all these players you mentioned were still in the team; they would have been ahead of Bayern Munich for a long time because they are still trying, even though they are used to selling players just to make some money, which will lead the team to go down and become less competitive for some time before raising another one that they will still sell once he gets to his peak.

Marco Reus is the only player they left in the squad, probably because of his leadership quality, and last season they had Jude Bellingham, who could have helped the team this season, but they sold him to Real Madrid in the summer transfer. Now they are in need of a good and quality squad to help them compete for the Bundesliga title because they are now behind Bayern Munich, Leverkusen, and Stuttgart.

[klidex]

I think from the teams mentioned here Bayer Leverkussen has the true potential to contend for the title until the end of the Bundesliga,they seem compact,they won against Leipzig and they drew at Bayern Munchen home so they are really in a great form.They are also consistent which is a different feature compared to Leipzig for example as even Leipzig has been contending for the title in these last couple of years but clearly lacking consistency.

Dortmund is a great team but that has shown big fragility when they need the most to win the games,remember last game of last season where they lost the title at their home soil.

Well you're right cause their performance is very brilliant this season and they're one of the teams that's given Bayern Munich a tough time this season, they don't have a squad full of top class players, but they understand themselves and have good team spirit coupled with a young and vibrant coach with lots of ambitions, though Leipzig are also one of the strong contenders for the league and have given Bayern a tough time even defeated them in a final, but Leverkusen are better than them in consistency and would finish above them as well.

 Dortmund didn't show great concern like they did last season , though they're still unbeaten in the league which means if they had put more effort from the beginning of the league, they would had been ín the position of Leverkusen on the standings, well they're on the right track and currently in top 4.

There is no doubt thats the strategy used by Xabi Alonso has really made a bigs difference to Leverkusen since Xabi Alonso joined the club, making Real Madrid want to recruit him to replace Carlo Ancelotti, but it look like Leverkusen will not let that happen.
The coach has made Leverkusen appear so impressive in the past two season thats Leverkusen took quick steps to sign Xabi Alonso long term.

If Leverkusen is able to continue to maintain its consistency until the end of the season, Leverkusen desire to winner the Bundesliga title this season will soon come true and Xabi Alonso should be appreciated for his successfull in coaching Leverkusen.

it looks like Dortmund not so much about winner a title in the Bundesliga because he is more concerned with his business of being able to sell the talented players at the club. With Dortmund current performance, Dortmund is good enough for Dortmund to be in the top 4 and possibly in the next season transfer market next winter, Dortmund will sell its talented players again, and like the rumors I heard, Bayern Munich want Dortmund goalkeeper its Gregor Kobel. If Bayern Munich is able to pay a high price for this players, it is not impossible thats Dortmund will give him to Dortmund arch rival in the Bundesliga..

[topbitcoin]

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Dortmund are comfortable with their current condition where their profits are only centered on the sale of players they do so I think by looking at the condition of their financial benefits then it has become a comfort zone for Dortmund and they don't want to move from it.
Currently as long as they (the fans and management) are not too demanding with achievements and trophies I think Dortmund will continue like that and there will be no change.

But indeed in this case in terms of business of course they will be more able to expect this as a business field for their financial benefits.

[KTChampions]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Crazy list. I have always said that Dortmund has amazing scouts and agents, and even though they bought many players who could be said to be ready-made stars, these stars still continued to progress in Dortmund. From a business point of view, they are doing perfectly. Against the background of how we see that many clubs make expensive purchases and then the purchase turns out to be far from being so valuable, Dortmund’s moves look like they were perfectly calibrated.

[bestcoins1]

Normally football is a way of making money which I believe each club will find a way of getting profit from it, club that are at the top like Bayern Munich that always win their Bundesliga title, they can be blamed because they no the path, maybe they notice selling of players is most than trophy.

And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.

[Doell]

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Normally football is a way of making money which I believe each club will find a way of getting profit from it, club that are at the top like Bayern Munich that always win their Bundesliga title, they can be blamed because they no the path, maybe they notice selling of players is most than trophy.

Yeah, every club have own way of making a lot of money. Dortmund are actually good, they make money quickly in the transfer market. Their management is smart in selecting and developing players who have great potential in the future. Slowly they will get the title if they have great squad depth, because when they sell their players they also recruit other players, right? It's a good business, but don't blame Bayern Munich because they also have a good business. Apart from the Bundesliga title, they have a target for the UCL title. Imagine, if they get the UCL title they can make big money at there and trophies of course, as well as lots of sponsors coming.

[Jody.Drummer]

Normally football is a way of making money which I believe each club will find a way of getting profit from it, club that are at the top like Bayern Munich that always win their Bundesliga title, they can be blamed because they no the path, maybe they notice selling of players is most than trophy.

And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.

Every club has its own way of managing its team, they know what to do especially in business to get profits and one of them as usual they utilize from player sales. We can see how Dortmund now, they are always consistent in their business, have the ability to form players who were originally ordinary to be extraordinary then they will sell them at fantastic prices even to their own rivals.

But in my opinion in general they also cannot if they continue to focus on the benefits of selling players, because obviously if it is done very often then maybe they will find it difficult to balance the team's performance in each competition because they are busy with taking care of the entry and exit of players, and also of course adaptation which is a serious problem when they are struggling to win trophies or other victories.

[rahmad2nd]

Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

It could be, if previous communication had been established between Bayern and De Gea. However, it seems that an agreement has not been reached. either because of salary, or he is just an option before Neuer returns to the field with Munich. Maybe that's why De Gea is not interested if Bayern offers him a contract. As an established goalkeeper and a big name, I don't think De Gea will be willing to just be a temporary goalkeeper. We can refer to Yann Sommer, even though I think this Swiss goalkeeper's work with Bayern is not that bad. However, he chose to leave, because previously there were rumors that Neuer would return as the main goalkeeper in the 2023/2024 season.

Well, now we are talking from Sven Ulreich's side. As you said, the goalkeeper has conceded 10 goals during Bayern's matches both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League. However, if we remember the initial match in the German Super Cup, Sven Ulreich also conceded 3 goals, so a total of 13 conceded. I don't want to say that this goalkeeper always performs badly, but in big matches or when he meets a strong enough team, he always concedes. which means, Tuchel has other work to do to find a way to cover his weaknesses in the last line of defense of his team's squad.
For now, there are not many options other than Ulreich to improve his performance. plus, Thucel strengthened his squad's defense line players. if there is no development that leads to good progress.This means that Bayern must find an ideal goalkeeper next January and at the same time add several defenders.Thus, the Bayern Munich squad will be much stronger and very ready to face even tough teams.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.

There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Just look at the example of Dortmund last season where they almost won the Bundesliga, but because they were unable to play well to get full points, Bayern Munich took the championship again. Even though Dortmund only needed to win in the last match and the match also took place at home.

[Jody.Drummer]

The question that arises when they do that is how long will they do it? The risk will always be there, and even though they alwasy make a profit every season from the sales they make, the question is whether they will always be in a state where they will always be able to benefit from the star players they create? I have no doubt that they are the club with the most genius in spotting young talent. But risks must also be taken, because they also need titles as a club. They have the ability to do that, it's just a matter of how they intend to do it.

Maybe they're comfortable in gaining financially from their player sales than winning trophies, cause if the trophies were important to them, then I don't see why they'll decide to sell players that are capable of winning titles for them, if you noticed their performance last season when they had Jude Bellingham in the team is not the same this season, they almost won the Bundesliga when he was present in the team, and he's now performing well at Madrid, I believe if he was still with them they would had been doing better.

 What I feel is that it's become a tradition for them and it may continue for a long time, they'll still try as much as possible to qualify for the Champions League  and sell some youngsters that are currently in the team, maybe Karim Adeyemi might be the next Youngster to be sold by Dortmund,  but where it could start affecting them is when they fail to find a better replacement for the players they're selling.

In situations like this, comfort will actually backfire on them, yes as a club they should be able to get out of the comfort zone they occupy. I have repeatedly said I personally have no problem if they do business, because in football business can no longer be separated, many clubs are financially constrained because they are not good at business.
They have shown their business skills, and I think we all agree on that. But what we haven't seen from them now is how they start for something bigger, in this case achievement.

As long as the club is still comfortable with what it does each season and as long as many fans are quite happy with their current condition even though there are also many who demand that they do more then I think things like this will continue.
The conditions that Dortmund are doing are not just from one or two seasons but this kind of strategy has started when they were in the previous decade where Lewandowski was the opening for them to sell star players even to their own rival clubs.

So things like this will be difficult to change even if in the end there are several opportunities they want to take risks but when it is not in line with what is expected and actually makes them lose I think they will still return to their comfort zone by selling their star players for the club's financial benefits.

One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.

[Franctoshi]

There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.

[Litzki1990]

And as long as he is not under contract, he will be able to join any team. He wants even though the transfer market is off. At least that's what I know. Do let me know if I am wrong. But I think he is definitely going to be more reliable compared to Sven and the other kid.

De Gea is too old to be brought in by Munich. But when compared to Sven I think De Gea is much better. But in the Bundesliga, Munich only conceded 6 goals. Although I think this is because Munich does have a good defense. Bringing in De Gea will certainly use up their funds, while at the moment even though Sven is not as good as De Gea, Munich has a defender who can anticipate this.

David de Gea is a 32-year-old Spanish goalkeeper who was released by Manchester United this season and is currently out of contract. Manchester United were not satisfied with his performance and that's why the club released him but it is a question of how much interest Bayern Munich will show in taking him to the team where Manchester United released him. Mayan Munich will certainly not sign a player with a very limited contract period so they expect a good quality goalkeeper in which case David de Gea may not meet their expectations. Bayern Munich should sign a goalkeeper who has excellent goalkeeping skills as well as a long-term plan. David de Gea may never be in Bayern Munich's long-term plans.

[Luzin]

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.

Nowadays football is an industry, so a club would be better if it had a good business and was able to generate a large source of income. Dortmund have done that, so a lot of good players have left. This also resulted in disappointed fans. Because indeed the orientation of the club looks different. They don't have many trophies but their finances are healthy. Of course this will make the club not have much burden to pay players, although they must be willing to rarely have trophies.

[hahay]

There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.

Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.