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March 24, 2023, 03:02:17 PM
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If Bayern wins UCL this year , I will be mad on their board for sacking Nagelsmann because the guy was still doing his job at a very high efficiency but I'm afraid that some key players turned against him ,  as the results are still great even if Bayern won't win the title ...but let's be honest , their domination has to end at some point at least for 1-2 years to give German football in general a chance to become more competitive. We all saw what happened with Juve and in my opinion , Italian football in general in way more competitive right now like it used to be when Juve dominated year after year in Serie A.

Now , I also hope Nagelsmann will find a great team soon with a very promising project for the next years ...maybe Real Madrid ? Ancelotti might leave in summer if I remember well.

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March 24, 2023, 03:11:29 PM
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Indeed, no one expected the dismissal of Julian Nagelsmann to take place suddenly and even Julian Nagelsmann did not know about this dismissal because he was on holiday skiing in Tyrol. The rest was probably due to internal problems that were difficult to solve, so Bayern Munich's management made this decision. I think Bayern Munich should be able to face the rest of this season with a replacement coach Thomas Tuchel who now has responsibility in competitions that are still active, such as the Bundesliga and Champions League.

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Yes, it is most likely that Nagelsman's dismissal was due to internal problems with team management so they had to make a decision like this, maybe some fans said that Bayern Muchen fired Nagelsman because he had poor results after competing with the Leverkusen team and currently their Bayern squad wants to be consistent in the Champions League without Nagelsman so that the Bayern Muchen team wants to bring in Tuchel as a replacement, but I'm not sure that Tuchel's fate will last long to train the Bayern Muchen team because previously Tuchel was also a coach who had internal problems with the management of the Chelsea team.

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March 24, 2023, 03:32:22 PM
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If Bayern wins UCL this year , I will be mad on their board for sacking Nagelsmann because the guy was still doing his job at a very high efficiency but I'm afraid that some key players turned against him ,  as the results are still great even if Bayern won't win the title ...but let's be honest , their domination has to end at some point at least for 1-2 years to give German football in general a chance to become more competitive. We all saw what happened with Juve and in my opinion , Italian football in general in way more competitive right now like it used to be when Juve dominated year after year in Serie A.

Now , I also hope Nagelsmann will find a great team soon with a very promising project for the next years ...maybe Real Madrid ? Ancelotti might leave in summer if I remember well.
With the appointment of Thomas Tuchel as a replacement for the sacked Julian Nagelsmann, I hope that Bayern Munich will really go deeper in terms of performance. Tuchel managed to lead Chelsea to win the Champions League title in his first season, but I hope the same thing will be very difficult for him to achieve with Bayern Munich. Julian Nagelsmann is a great coach, but unfortunately he had to be sacked because of bad relations with some of the senior players.

I welcome Julian Nagelsmann's dismissal from Bayern Munich because I think this man was truly extraordinary when he brought Bayern Munich through to the quarter-finals. Thomas Tuchel could be in doubt, and this should make Bayern Munich a team with a different chance after his change of coach.

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March 24, 2023, 03:38:37 PM
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If Bayern wins UCL this year , I will be mad on their board for sacking Nagelsmann because the guy was still doing his job at a very high efficiency but I'm afraid that some key players turned against him ,  as the results are still great even if Bayern won't win the title ...but let's be honest , their domination has to end at some point at least for 1-2 years to give German football in general a chance to become more competitive. We all saw what happened with Juve and in my opinion , Italian football in general in way more competitive right now like it used to be when Juve dominated year after year in Serie A.

Now , I also hope Nagelsmann will find a great team soon with a very promising project for the next years ...maybe Real Madrid ? Ancelotti might leave in summer if I remember well.
Even, I doubt that Bayern Munich will win UCL trophy without Nagelsmann, this man is already doing a very good job at UCL. Bayern Munich position is also not too bad in current standings table Bundesliga, it is only one point different from Dortmund and there is a possibility for Bayern Munich can return to the top position again.

I also hope Nagelsmann can find a good team for him, being a coach for Real Madrid is also good, hopefully Real Madrid boss can bag his name to replace Ancelotti next season.

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March 24, 2023, 03:51:28 PM
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With the appointment of Thomas Tuchel as a replacement for the sacked Julian Nagelsmann, I hope that Bayern Munich will really go deeper in terms of performance. Tuchel managed to lead Chelsea to win the Champions League title in his first season, but I hope the same thing will be very difficult for him to achieve with Bayern Munich. Julian Nagelsmann is a great coach, but unfortunately he had to be sacked because of bad relations with some of the senior players.

I welcome Julian Nagelsmann's dismissal from Bayern Munich because I think this man was truly extraordinary when he brought Bayern Munich through to the quarter-finals. Thomas Tuchel could be in doubt, and this should make Bayern Munich a team with a different chance after his change of coach.
Maybe for the Bundesliga champions, Naglesmann can still be counted on to train Bayern Munich but for the Champions League you need a coach who really has a winning mentality. In my opinion, the decision by the Bayern Munich management to appoint Thomas Tuchel as a replacement for Naglesmann was correct, even though Bayern Munich may not necessarily win the Champions League, meeting Man City was very difficult because Pep Guardiola is very experienced. And here you can see the reason for Naglesmann's sacking, that Bayern Munich really want to win the Champions League. The Champions League is the best of the best.
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March 24, 2023, 04:05:26 PM
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I was reading it today in the morning when i was making me ready for work and it was an unexpected surprise news with Nagelsmann got fired.
There maybe for sure some things behind the scenes that we dont know , how the management and Nagelsmann maybe got some other point of views.
And for sure the place at the moment where Bayern Munich is right now on table with all that high quality players can also be thing for it.
Tuchel will be a good option for them and he has shown that in Chelsea for a long time.
Yep, we cannot know the clear reason for Nagelsmann's dismissal because it is possible that there were some who were not raised to the public about internal matters but this is clearly shocking news amid their condition which is actually still quite good.
It's just that there are indeed a number of conditions where Bayern this season is slightly different from last season in terms of dominance and this possibility could also be one of the reasons why he left now.

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March 24, 2023, 04:22:15 PM
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With the appointment of Thomas Tuchel as a replacement for the sacked Julian Nagelsmann, I hope that Bayern Munich will really go deeper in terms of performance. Tuchel managed to lead Chelsea to win the Champions League title in his first season, but I hope the same thing will be very difficult for him to achieve with Bayern Munich. Julian Nagelsmann is a great coach, but unfortunately he had to be sacked because of bad relations with some of the senior players.

I welcome Julian Nagelsmann's dismissal from Bayern Munich because I think this man was truly extraordinary when he brought Bayern Munich through to the quarter-finals. Thomas Tuchel could be in doubt, and this should make Bayern Munich a team with a different chance after his change of coach.
Maybe for the Bundesliga champions, Naglesmann can still be counted on to train Bayern Munich but for the Champions League you need a coach who really has a winning mentality. In my opinion, the decision by the Bayern Munich management to appoint Thomas Tuchel as a replacement for Naglesmann was correct, even though Bayern Munich may not necessarily win the Champions League, meeting Man City was very difficult because Pep Guardiola is very experienced. And here you can see the reason for Naglesmann's sacking, that Bayern Munich really want to win the Champions League. The Champions League is the best of the best.
I don't think it's fair when the only reason for being sacked is to win the Champions League. So far Nagelsmann has been able to bring Bayern Munich to a 100% win in the Champions League and he has even been able to get rid of PSG, who are one of the strong candidates in Europe's elite competition. Bayern officials should still respect Nagelsmann even though he is still very young.

Thomas Thucel is the best coach in the world, I really believe in his quality. But he had to face Manchester City in the quarterfinals. This season Manchester City is very ambitious to win this prestigious title and maybe Bayern will be the next victim of their ferocity.

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March 24, 2023, 04:51:59 PM
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I was reading it today in the morning when i was making me ready for work and it was an unexpected surprise news with Nagelsmann got fired.
There maybe for sure some things behind the scenes that we dont know , how the management and Nagelsmann maybe got some other point of views.
And for sure the place at the moment where Bayern Munich is right now on table with all that high quality players can also be thing for it.
Tuchel will be a good option for them and he has shown that in Chelsea for a long time.
Yep, we cannot know the clear reason for Nagelsmann's dismissal because it is possible that there were some who were not raised to the public about internal matters but this is clearly shocking news amid their condition which is actually still quite good.
It's just that there are indeed a number of conditions where Bayern this season is slightly different from last season in terms of dominance and this possibility could also be one of the reasons why he left now.

Also, Nagelsmann's contract is still very long and Nagelsmann still has a contract until 2026. With this dismissal, it can be said that Nagelsmann coached Bayern Munich in only one and a half seasons. I think it's been a pretty short coaching career for a Bayern Munich coach because normally, Bayern Munich always have coaches for a long period of time but that wasn't the case for Nagelsmann.

I think one of the reasons for Nagelsmann's dismissal seems to be about Bayern Munich's dominance and or performance this season which is unsatisfactory. Because the board seems to really want Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga to be unbroken or maybe, Bayern Munich has a target of being able to beat Manchester City in the Champions League.

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March 24, 2023, 05:08:30 PM
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However, if we look at it as a whole, it is no better than last season, meaning that Bayern Munich's performance has decreased if we refer to Bayern's performance last season in the Bundesliga.
Bayern have won the Bundesliga for several seasons, of course they don't want to lose what they have achieved so far, the Champions League is not a reason for Bayern to lose the Bundesliga title as it should.
True, when comparing Bayern Munich's performance with last season, this season they have experienced a decline. But for me personally, firing their coach for that reason is too harsh, because overall they can still compete and the title has not completely disappeared from their grasp. There may have been other considerations for Bayern Munich's management so they decided to end the collaboration with Nagelsmann. Only they know for sure what the reason was behind Nagelsmann's dismissal.

I don't think the performance of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is the reason for them to fire the coach from their team. Bayern Munich started the season and after a few weeks they were at the top of the table they were racing with union berlin for weeks after union berlin surprised us with the performance we saw from them and now they are racing with Dortmund while there is a small gap between these two teams and Bayern Munich had a good performance this season until this time. 
Even there is the possibility for Bayern Munich to lose the race in Bundesliga to Dortmund after they hire Tuchel.

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March 24, 2023, 05:19:21 PM
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True, when comparing Bayern Munich's performance with last season, this season they have experienced a decline. But for me personally, firing their coach for that reason is too harsh, because overall they can still compete and the title has not completely disappeared from their grasp. There may have been other considerations for Bayern Munich's management so they decided to end the collaboration with Nagelsmann. Only they know for sure what the reason was behind Nagelsmann's dismissal.
Not only too hard, but also too hasty because in general, Bayern Munich have not fully experienced a slump this season. And also Bayern Munich can still try to get the title in the Bundesliga this season by overtaking Dortmund again at the top of the standings, which is only one point away at this time. But I also don't know for sure why this dismissal has to happen to Bayern Munich now, even though Bayern Munich have to think about a strategy for matches in the UCL and also matches in the Bundesliga for the rest of this season.

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March 24, 2023, 05:42:45 PM
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If Tuchel arrives at Bayern Munich I think he would like to sign a top striker like a complete forward I mean. Lewandowski's absence must be still sad despite they are doing a decent job now. While he was playing for Bayern Munich they were much more consistent in every tournament. They are still consistent in the Champions League though but it isn't the situation in the Bundesliga.

I don't overlook Choupo-Moting's effort of course as he has played really well so far. However I still don't think Bayern Munich should make do with only him. When I think about a complete forward to fill Lewandowski's place the only player comes to my mind is Kane now. He would fit this team great but let's see if they can even steal him from Tottenham in the summer.

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March 24, 2023, 05:43:52 PM
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I don't think the performance of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is the reason for them to fire the coach from their team. Bayern Munich started the season and after a few weeks they were at the top of the table they were racing with union berlin for weeks after union berlin surprised us with the performance we saw from them and now they are racing with Dortmund while there is a small gap between these two teams and Bayern Munich had a good performance this season until this time.  
Even Bayern Munich can lose the race in Bundesliga to Dortmund after they hire Tuchel.

According to the chief executive of the club Oliver Kahn, Bayern Munich's performance has reduced since after the world. The club has won five of their last ten matches and their loss against Leverkusen was the straw that broke the camel's back. Kahn believes that the club needed to act fast to avoid the further decline of the club. I think it is too sudden to sack Nagelsmann because he has not performed very badly. The club is in the quarterfinals of the champions league and is still competing favorably for the league title. I just feel that the management wants to ensure that they maintained their dominance of the Bundesliga. Thomas Tuchel is more experienced and might perform better that the leaving young coach.

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True, when comparing Bayern Munich's performance with last season, this season they have experienced a decline. But for me personally, firing their coach for that reason is too harsh, because overall they can still compete and the title has not completely disappeared from their grasp. There may have been other considerations for Bayern Munich's management so they decided to end the collaboration with Nagelsmann. Only they know for sure what the reason was behind Nagelsmann's dismissal.

I was also surprised, when i read the news today that FC Bayern has fired Nagelsmann, because i really thought, that he would have way more credit, for the fact alone that Bayern Munich paid a 25 Million € transfer fee only 2 years ago for Nagelsmann, which is very unusual for a coach. So this shows me that they were really unhappy with the way the team is performing at the moment and to be honest i kinda can understand them.
In the Champions League games Bayern Munich performed great while they struggled in the Bundesliga against teams that were often way weaker than their Champions League opponents. This tells me, that Nagelsmann was not able to motivate his players for those Bundesliga matches, because let's be honest, if Bayern is reaching their normal level, then no Bundesliga team can be dangerous to them.
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If Tuchel arrives at Bayern Munich I think he would like to sign a top striker like a complete forward I mean. Lewandowski's absence must be still sad despite they are doing a decent job now. While he was playing for Bayern Munich they were much more consistent in every tournament. They are still consistent in the Champions League though but it isn't the situation in the Bundesliga.

I don't overlook Choupo-Moting's effort of course as he has played really well so far. However I still don't think Bayern Munich should make do with only him. When I think about a complete forward to fill Lewandowski's place the only player comes to my mind is Kane now. He would fit this team great but let's see if they can even steal him from Tottenham in the summer.

Choupo-Moting is a good striker. No doubt about that. But if he is the main striker of Bayern Munich, it is not going to be enough for them. The main striker of Bayern Munich has to be someone else and someone better. It is okay to play him if they do not have any other options. But the way this season is going on, they should seriously think about bringing someone who can be a prolific striker like Robert Lewandowski was for them. I also greeted Harry Kane is going to fit right in with the team.



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However, if we look at it as a whole, it is no better than last season, meaning that Bayern Munich's performance has decreased if we refer to Bayern's performance last season in the Bundesliga.
Bayern have won the Bundesliga for several seasons, of course they don't want to lose what they have achieved so far, the Champions League is not a reason for Bayern to lose the Bundesliga title as it should.
True, when comparing Bayern Munich's performance with last season, this season they have experienced a decline. But for me personally, firing their coach for that reason is too harsh, because overall they can still compete and the title has not completely disappeared from their grasp. There may have been other considerations for Bayern Munich's management so they decided to end the collaboration with Nagelsmann. Only they know for sure what the reason was behind Nagelsmann's dismissal.

I don't think the performance of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is the reason for them to fire the coach from their team. Bayern Munich started the season and after a few weeks they were at the top of the table they were racing with union berlin for weeks after union berlin surprised us with the performance we saw from them and now they are racing with Dortmund while there is a small gap between these two teams and Bayern Munich had a good performance this season until this time. 
Even there is the possibility for Bayern Munich to lose the race in Bundesliga to Dortmund after they hire Tuchel.
Before such decision is made I believe the club (which included the management and the players) have got significant reasons. Sacking a coach at a stage of a season like this is a tough decisions to take,  and it's means the team isn't in a good condition and may miss target if the decision isn't made.
With the current achievement met with chelsea, Thomas Tuchel is a high rated coach.  Though it's a hasty decision to have signed him but will also be a big lose if he is taken by some other club. Tuchel is the best choice for Bayern With the current square.


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March 24, 2023, 06:28:04 PM
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I think it is clear that this wasn't really about the results. I get that they are not leading the league right now but there were even worse times, the start of the season was so bad that we could have seen him be fired there as well and he wasn't.

I think this was more about the relationships he had in the team, both players and management saw him as someone who needs to go. He is a great "manager" level person, an executive, a great football director if given the chance, but when it comes to actual coaching and tactics, I feel like he was not there for personal relations and that is a big part of it, football is not just playing the game, it is also keeping everyone happy at the same time. If you get results but everyone hates you, you could still get fired.

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March 24, 2023, 06:35:15 PM
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If Bayern wins UCL this year , I will be mad on their board for sacking Nagelsmann because the guy was still doing his job at a very high efficiency but I'm afraid that some key players turned against him ,  as the results are still great even if Bayern won't win the title ...but let's be honest , their domination has to end at some point at least for 1-2 years to give German football in general a chance to become more competitive. We all saw what happened with Juve and in my opinion , Italian football in general in way more competitive right now like it used to be when Juve dominated year after year in Serie A.

Now , I also hope Nagelsmann will find a great team soon with a very promising project for the next years ...maybe Real Madrid ? Ancelotti might leave in summer if I remember well.

when we look at bayern's statistics this season, we will see that Nagelsmann had an acceptable performance 37 games, 3 defeats, 112 goals in the bundesliga. but these are numbers, because the performance on the field in terms of the team playing well, we all saw that bayern already conceded goals against any team in the bundesliga and even it was very difficult to simply be 100% confident that bayern will win when playing against a weak opponent, I believe that the club's management has already analyzed that at this rate if they didn't make a quick change, bayern would not be able to become champion

now my concern is that tuchel is coming and may not be able to bring good results immediately, bayern may suffer from the negative with this change of coach just close to the end of the season, they may also suffer in the champions league, I know that everyone will say that tuchel is a good coach, and i also agree with that, but even a great coach will need time to be able to adapt to the team and start implementing his ideas and strategies, it takes time for a coach to be able to develop strategies in a team, it will be that the management of bayern is prepared for them not to win the bundesliga and the champions league this season?

I think it is clear that this wasn't really about the results. I get that they are not leading the league right now but there were even worse times, the start of the season was so bad that we could have seen him be fired there as well and he wasn't.

I think this was more about the relationships he had in the team, both players and management saw him as someone who needs to go. He is a great "manager" level person, an executive, a great football director if given the chance, but when it comes to actual coaching and tactics, I feel like he was not there for personal relations and that is a big part of it, football is not just playing the game, it is also keeping everyone happy at the same time. If you get results but everyone hates you, you could still get fired.

In all Portuguese newspapers I read, they said that the main problem that led to the dismissal was the bad relationship with the management, but I think that Bayern was not playing well, at this rate Bayern would not win the Bundesliga. but having changed a coach now could also make them lose the bundesliga, it's not easy for a new coach to be successful right away

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March 24, 2023, 06:37:17 PM
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I think it is clear that this wasn't really about the results. I get that they are not leading the league right now but there were even worse times, the start of the season was so bad that we could have seen him be fired there as well and he wasn't.

I think this was more about the relationships he had in the team, both players and management saw him as someone who needs to go. He is a great "manager" level person, an executive, a great football director if given the chance, but when it comes to actual coaching and tactics, I feel like he was not there for personal relations and that is a big part of it, football is not just playing the game, it is also keeping everyone happy at the same time. If you get results but everyone hates you, you could still get fired.

If Julian Nagelsmann doesn't have good coaching and tactics, then why did Bayern Munich choose or recruit Julian Nagelsmann to be a coach. If Bayern Munich had realized this from the start, then of course Bayern Munich would not have recruited Julian Nagelsmann to become Bayern Munich coach.

Also, the reason Bayern Munich chose Julian Nagelsmann was because previously Julian Nagelsmann had managed to give Leipzig good results. After all, if Julian Nagelsmann didn't have a good history as a coach, then a team as big as Bayern Munich would not gamble by recruiting Julian Nagelsmann as head coach of Bayern Munich. So yes, I think this is a long-term anticipation, with Bayern Munich's declining performance, Bayern Munich chose a quick move to sack Julian Nagelsmann.

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March 24, 2023, 06:53:12 PM
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Also, the reason Bayern Munich chose Julian Nagelsmann was because previously Julian Nagelsmann had managed to give Leipzig good results. After all, if Julian Nagelsmann didn't have a good history as a coach, then a team as big as Bayern Munich would not gamble by recruiting Julian Nagelsmann as head coach of Bayern Munich. So yes, I think this is a long-term anticipation, with Bayern Munich's declining performance, Bayern Munich chose a quick move to sack Julian Nagelsmann.
Sacking Nagelsmann was the right thing to do, because with the way Bayern Munich have be playing this season one will know the coach don't have the experience to lead the team, now that they have replaced him with Thomas Tuchel formal Chelsea coach, I think the team will be playing more better now. This just made things more difficult for the Manchester City in the Champions League quater final game, Manchester city have to be more prepared now. With the way Thomas Tuchel came into the Chelsea team who where playing badly then, he came and carried the champions League with them, I think he can still make that happen with the Bayern Munich team.

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March 24, 2023, 07:39:21 PM
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If Julian Nagelsmann doesn't have good coaching and tactics, then why did Bayern Munich choose or recruit Julian Nagelsmann to be a coach. If Bayern Munich had realized this from the start, then of course Bayern Munich would not have recruited Julian Nagelsmann to become Bayern Munich coach.

Also, the reason Bayern Munich chose Julian Nagelsmann was because previously Julian Nagelsmann had managed to give Leipzig good results. After all, if Julian Nagelsmann didn't have a good history as a coach, then a team as big as Bayern Munich would not gamble by recruiting Julian Nagelsmann as head coach of Bayern Munich. So yes, I think this is a long-term anticipation, with Bayern Munich's declining performance, Bayern Munich chose a quick move to sack Julian Nagelsmann.
How possibility with Julian Nagelsmann less tactic and not effective for Bayern Munich manager but in other side he was success have 100% winning record in Champion League? on group stage have Inter Milan and Barcelona but Julian Nagelsmann success won between home or away matches.

Have inconsistent performance in domestic league after Bayern Munich position taken by Dortmund and right now left 2 points, but still not close yet with Julian Nagelsmann bring Bayern for winning Bundesliga tittle, I am waiting with Thomas Tuchel success or not extended 100% winning record for Bayern Munich in Champion League. I think have choose quick decision for sacking Julian Nagelsmann from Bayern Munich's manager position.

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