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July 06, 2023, 07:25:49 AM
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I agree with what you said Union berlin in the champions league would be a little bit impossible because the big club competition is there and Union berlin is actually better suited to try to be better in the european leagues.
In the European league, I think Union Berlin will have no trouble testing its performance to try to get a trophy because I also saw last season that Union Berlin has also performed very well and has potential in the European league rather than the Champions League.
I don't think you should give up hope for clubs that will be playing in the Champions League, because that would be underestimating them. Although I won't deny that Union Berlin will probably be better prepared to be in the Europa League.
If they are a bit lucky, then they will be in a group that allows them to be ranked 2nd for example. And also in the knockout round if they are lucky they will meet a club that can be said to be the same as them. Last season, there was actually a surprise from a dark horse club like Club Brugge although in the end they were not too strong to reach the higher rounds.
They should hope that they do not meet with a team that ends up taking the third place, that's what I would say about them. Union berlin will not go out of group stages, the best they will do is group stages at this point, so the only question remaining would be will they be third and go to europa, or will they be fourth in their group and go back home? Because there is a big potential that they could do that too.

I believe that there is a good chance they will end up being quite unhappy with the result as well and may end up with a loss. I am not saying that fourth is guaranteed, but it is also not guaranteed that they won't be. That's their level, third or fourth and they should try to get as many points as they could to get that third place.

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July 06, 2023, 07:51:43 AM
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Bayern Munich are indeed targeting the Spurs striker for next season's competition and if they don't manage to get him it will certainly be enough trouble to be at the top of the bundesliga table. I think that Harry Kane's influence on Bayern Munich is clearly enormous and therefore the chase for Harry Kane is immediately led by the representative board Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Even if Bayern Munich don't manage to get Harry Kane in the summer, they are prepared to wait in 2024 which is the end of Harry Kane's contract with Spurs.
For Kane's age, the price of $100 million seems quite expensive. Tottenham don't even want to release him below that price. Actually I'm not too sure Kane is better than Sadio Mane. I think with such a high price, Munich do not need to rush in selling Mane. They can give Mane confidence to perform at least half a season. If he is good then keep him, but if it is the other way around maybe they should sell him immediately. Half-season conditions might make Tottenham able to release Kane at a cheaper price. In addition, it seems that Kane is already very keen to leave Tottenham.

Yes, the price is very high but still, the whole point about Harry Kane and Bayern Munich is other than his performance he can have in any team, Kane is very much loyal to his team Tottenham and that's why this can't be easy for him to leave his team love for them however 100m seems high but I'm not wrong Tuchel asked his team to hire player for any price.

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July 06, 2023, 08:03:01 AM
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Harry Kane has been in England during his whole career. Therefore it isn't easy to make very comfortable assumptions about whether he would be this much productive at Bayern Munich. Maybe his priority is still an English team. We can understand this if another English team make an offer for him. That team is likely to be Manchester United.

In a race between the Red Devils and Bayern Munich things can get really interesting. Bayern Munich technically look more attracting to big players due to the success rate. However we see some special cases like this as well. If Kane decides to prioritize the Premier League and these teams offer the same conditions Bayern Munich had better look for someone else.

Rumors surrounding Harry Kane have become a hot topic of conversation in recent weeks. So far only Bayern Munich have made the first move for Kane, given their €70m opening bid was swiftly rejected. however Bayern have not given up on it, it is rumored the German giants are now preparing a much better offer for Kane. as a result, Bayern are reportedly confident they can persuade Spurs to sell him. several other sources reported, rumors United are still interested in this Spurs striker. it's just that what makes me confused, how do they get the funds to bring Kane to Old Trafford, aren't they constrained by financial problems to spend on players. So, in theory Bayern has a bigger probability than United.

Referring to what you're saying, it's very interesting to remember that Kane has been in England for his entire career. in fact, this is the door for Kane to prove that he is a striker who deserves to play in any league. with his status as a center forward, he should be able to adapt to the Bayern squad if he later joins. Apart from that, Tuchel really wanted Kane's services to fill the vacant position after Lewandowski left. let's wait, whether the Spurs will release the striker.

I also think he can actually adapt to Bayern Munich if he prefers them to Manchester United. If he is going to make a big change in his career it should be a wise move. Bayern Munich technically have more potential to win titles from now on. I don't think the same for the Red Devils. I mean they won the EFL Cup title this season but this is the only title they managed to win for many years.

Bayern Munich are the opposite of them. In the end Kane would leave on the condition to join a winner team. He couldn't win any title with Tottenham so far. Therefore I believe Bayern Munich is going to be the best choice for the rest of his career.

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July 06, 2023, 10:31:42 AM
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Tottenham may be demanding a high price for Harry Kane, but Bayern Munich have the ability to buy Harry Kane at a high price. But I doubt they will. Not many clubs are interested in Harry Kane due to Tottenham's high asking price. But I think Harry Kane is not interested in staying with Tottenham. He won't win any titles with this club. And so maybe Tottenham can decide to sell Harry Kane for a little less money.

Yesterday evening new reports appeared, that Tottenham made a new offer to Harry Kane with a huge salary boost for him and that the boss of Tottenham, Daniel Levy, is very angry with the officials of Bayern Munich because according to him they are talking to Harry Kane for a long time now. Therefore he wants to make them suffer and is asking for a very high transfer fee for Kane if he can not convince him to stay with this new offer.
If that really is the case and Tottenham is asking for a huge transfer fee, then i also think that it would be better to not try to sign Harry Kane anymore. To spend 100 M€ for a 30 year old player just does not make any sense in my opinion. Because for that amount of money you can get a world class striker that is way younger too.
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July 06, 2023, 11:14:22 AM
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Union Berlin will appear in the Champions League for the 2023/2024 season, surely with the level of competition there is so tight, they need some additional players to bring in to strengthen their squad. Reportedly, they are now approaching Robin Gosens, who is currently playing at INter Milan. Reportedly they have reached a personal agreement with the player, only they submit an offer to Inter Milan as the owner of this player.

Robin Gosens is a player who plays regularly with INter Milan, and Union Berlin thinks he is the player they need to make them more solid especially in defense.
Union Berlin did well last season in the Bundesliga and also did well in the Europa League. But I am not sure that the new player from Inter will be able to help them much in the Champions League, where there is a huge competition among the giant clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG and of course Manchester City. I think a good outcome for Union Berlin would be to qualify for the Europa League again where they would be much more comfortable.
I agree with what you said Union berlin in the champions league would be a little bit impossible because the big club competition is there and Union berlin is actually better suited to try to be better in the european leagues.
In the European league, I think Union Berlin will have no trouble testing its performance to try to get a trophy because I also saw last season that Union Berlin has also performed very well and has potential in the European league rather than the Champions League.
I don't think one player can improve the performance of Union Berlin that much. Yes, they played very well in the Europa League, but I think it's too early for them to play in the Champions League. I think they will be lucky if they can get out of the group, but further on it will be very difficult for them to play. The best thing for them is to get into the lower league, as happened last year with Juventus and Barcelona. The Europa League is just right for them.
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July 06, 2023, 11:19:10 AM
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I also think he can actually adapt to Bayern Munich if he prefers them to Manchester United. If he is going to make a big change in his career it should be a wise move. Bayern Munich technically have more potential to win titles from now on. I don't think the same for the Red Devils. I mean they won the EFL Cup title this season but this is the only title they managed to win for many years.

Bayern Munich are the opposite of them. In the end Kane would leave on the condition to join a winner team. He couldn't win any title with Tottenham so far. Therefore I believe Bayern Munich is going to be the best choice for the rest of his career.

Uniquely, now Spurs are rumored to be offering a money deal to Kane. according to Guardian journalist David Hytner, Tottenham have made a huge new contract offer to Kane which would significantly increase his £200,000-a-week requirement. this was done, in order to lock in Kane so that Spurs would not lose the player as a free agent in the upcoming summer transfer window. there is an interesting drama, at this time Levy is adamant not to sell Kane if it does not match their desired price tag of £ 100 million.

In contrast, the German giants have seen their first bid rejected by Spurs.  however, Bayern are reportedly ready to make a better bid, believed to be in the region of £80 million, this week. well, as I said before that there will be tough negotiations between Bayern and Spurs. Spurs don't want to sell, but on the other hand they will lose the player for the rest of his contract. ideally, Bayern should push Harry Kane to leave Spurs. if Kane no longer wants to stay with Spurs, in the end, like it or not, Spurs have to let him go. however, we'll just have to wait and see how it goes regarding Kane's development. if, in the end Kane chose to stay in the Premier League. I'm pretty sure Tuchel has other options they will bring in instead. in essence, Bayern needs a pure striker as a team need to welcome the 2023/2024 season.

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July 06, 2023, 01:36:25 PM
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Tottenham may be demanding a high price for Harry Kane, but Bayern Munich have the ability to buy Harry Kane at a high price. But I doubt they will. Not many clubs are interested in Harry Kane due to Tottenham's high asking price. But I think Harry Kane is not interested in staying with Tottenham. He won't win any titles with this club. And so maybe Tottenham can decide to sell Harry Kane for a little less money.

Yesterday evening new reports appeared, that Tottenham made a new offer to Harry Kane with a huge salary boost for him and that the boss of Tottenham, Daniel Levy, is very angry with the officials of Bayern Munich because according to him they are talking to Harry Kane for a long time now. Therefore he wants to make them suffer and is asking for a very high transfer fee for Kane if he can not convince him to stay with this new offer.
If that really is the case and Tottenham is asking for a huge transfer fee, then i also think that it would be better to not try to sign Harry Kane anymore. To spend 100 M€ for a 30 year old player just does not make any sense in my opinion. Because for that amount of money you can get a world class striker that is way younger too.

I think Kane's situation is the same as Mbappe's, both players want to leave but their clubs are holding them back by giving new contracts and increased salaries. But yes, that situation has been around for a long time I think from the previous few seasons as well and as such, it would be a loss for the club itself if the player is not willing to sign the new contract on offer. So yes, if Bayern Munich can still give $70 million then I think it remains a good advantage for Tottenham too, but if Tottenham are too greedy then of course the money remains a big obstacle for Kane to leave.

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July 06, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
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I think Kane's situation is the same as Mbappe's, both players want to leave but their clubs are holding them back by giving new contracts and increased salaries. But yes, that situation has been around for a long time I think from the previous few seasons as well and as such, it would be a loss for the club itself if the player is not willing to sign the new contract on offer. So yes, if Bayern Munich can still give $70 million then I think it remains a good advantage for Tottenham too, but if Tottenham are too greedy then of course the money remains a big obstacle for Kane to leave.
Crucial situation for Harry Kane right now due he want leave Tottenham Hotspur and rumor close will join with Bayern Munich next season, but Bayern won't spent above 100 million euro due Harry Kane have been over 30 years old and looks that price most expensive transfer fees. Other side, Tottenham Hotspur hasn't many option want to extend Harry Kane more than several years later due his contract over in the summer of 2024. Left one year for Spurs eant to sell Harry Kane under 100 million euro or possibility he will be free agent of not reach agreement for extending contract with Tottenham Hotspur.

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July 06, 2023, 02:11:49 PM
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I think Kane's situation is the same as Mbappe's, both players want to leave but their clubs are holding them back by giving new contracts and increased salaries. But yes, that situation has been around for a long time I think from the previous few seasons as well and as such, it would be a loss for the club itself if the player is not willing to sign the new contract on offer. So yes, if Bayern Munich can still give $70 million then I think it remains a good advantage for Tottenham too, but if Tottenham are too greedy then of course the money remains a big obstacle for Kane to leave.
Clubs hold players like Kane or Mbappe because these two players still have ongoing contracts so decisions still belong to the full rights of the club itself but when the contract expires and the player doesn't want to agree to an extension then it will be a loss for the club because they can't make money from other club transfer offers that want the player.
Bayern Munich are still on their last bid and are unwilling to renew bids for Tottenham to let Kane go but it is also true that Tottenham are keeping Kane at a high price considering Kane has been one of their mainstay players.

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July 06, 2023, 02:26:09 PM
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Union Berlin will appear in the Champions League for the 2023/2024 season, surely with the level of competition there is so tight, they need some additional players to bring in to strengthen their squad. Reportedly, they are now approaching Robin Gosens, who is currently playing at INter Milan. Reportedly they have reached a personal agreement with the player, only they submit an offer to Inter Milan as the owner of this player.

Robin Gosens is a player who plays regularly with INter Milan, and Union Berlin thinks he is the player they need to make them more solid especially in defense.
Union Berlin did well last season in the Bundesliga and also did well in the Europa League. But I am not sure that the new player from Inter will be able to help them much in the Champions League, where there is a huge competition among the giant clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG and of course Manchester City. I think a good outcome for Union Berlin would be to qualify for the Europa League again where they would be much more comfortable.
If you measure the level of competition in the Champions League, it is certainly difficult for Union Berlin to compete there with top clubs that have become regulars in the Champions League. But that doesn't mean they don't have a chance, yes although maybe their chances are quite small.
But I personally want to see them be able to bring out all their abilities so that they become a competitor worthy of consideration.
I think the opposite, when they recruit new players who they think can strengthen their squad, it is a hope. But again we'll see what they will be like in the Champions League next season.

There are other things that can be used to their advantage in the Champions League.
Even though in terms of competition I agree as you said because this will be very difficult for them but the positive impact is apart from the financial conditions that will definitely increase, this is also a very good learning for them because being in the Champions League by competing against big teams, this will make their mentality and game better.
They know their conditions and they won't have high expectations in the Champions League but at least there are many positive results that benefit them in other ways apart from the competition.
Hopefully, this schedule won't bother them in the Bundesliga because sometimes when a team is used to a tough schedule, it affects them in all competitions and perhaps Atalanta from Serie A is an example that they should avoid in order to avoid the same fate.
Yup, at least this is another advantage for the Union to navigate its season in the Champions League.
Now they just need to hope that in the group phase they are not faced with a troublesome group because in every season there is always a group that can be said to be a hell group because it is filled with several clubs that are strong candidates for champions even other big clubs.
Union must hope for more than this because indeed now they are talking about this competition will be very difficult so the only hope is that they don't meet too many great clubs and championship subscriptions.
Although indeed in this case they will also definitely be difficult to qualify for the knockout phase, but of course being in the top 3 also extends their hopes for other goals in the advantage for the Europa League.

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July 06, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
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what is so good in leverkusen ? the stadium ? the fans ? or the good money ? why do players move from other clubs like mönchengladbach to bayer leverkusen ?
can you explain something like that to me ? Jonas Hofmann moves from mönchengladbach to leverkusen .
but what is better in leverkusen ? ok. they play international. and he gets more money than in mönchengladbach . but ok.
ronaldo and messi are not better. you go where there is a lot of money. that doesn't care that there is no real atmosphere in the stadium . as long as the money is good
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July 06, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
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what is so good in leverkusen ? the stadium ? the fans ? or the good money ? why do players move from other clubs like mönchengladbach to bayer leverkusen ?
can you explain something like that to me ? Jonas Hofmann moves from mönchengladbach to leverkusen .
but what is better in leverkusen ? ok. they play international. and he gets more money than in mönchengladbach . but ok.
ronaldo and messi are not better. you go where there is a lot of money. that doesn't care that there is no real atmosphere in the stadium . as long as the money is good
It's not always money. I think that you shall also try to see what he has stated during his interview for his movement from gladbach to the leverkusen.
I will mention it here.
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"I'm very grateful to Borussia for the past seven years. I had an outstanding time there," Hofmann told his new team's website.
"Recently, however, I had the feeling that I wanted to do something new. Bayer 04 fits these thoughts, the club has been one of the top German clubs for years and is also always ambitious internationally. The team is exciting and has an incredible amount of quality. I'm really keen on this next chapter."
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/jonas-hofmann-joins-bayer-leverkusen-from-borussia-monchengladbach-alonso-23959


It's quite clear if his motivation to leave from gladbach then join in leverkusen caused by gladbach is always stuck in the same place over and over again. The vision from gladbach is not fit to his ambition to participate more in the international competition like UCL or UEL.
There is also another potential reason like gladbach has no good commitment to make the club to be even better. It can be seen from how gladbach was very often selling its players to the its rival.

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He was feeling disappointed about how gladbach was so easy to let this important players left from the club.

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July 06, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
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Granit Xhaka, who is a former Arsenal player, is now in Germany to complete a deal with Leverkusen. Reportedly not only signed a contract with Leverkusen, but at the same time to carry out a medical test as a condition for moving to the new German club.

The transfer fee is around 25 million euros and in my opinion that is quite a fair price for a Granit Xhaka who has so much experience in an English league club. His contract with Leverkusen will last until 2028 and it is a long-term contract that Granit Xhaka will sign to be part of the Leverkusen squad from next season.
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For Kane's age, the price of $100 million seems quite expensive. Tottenham don't even want to release him below that price. Actually I'm not too sure Kane is better than Sadio Mane. I think with such a high price, Munich do not need to rush in selling Mane. They can give Mane confidence to perform at least half a season. If he is good then keep him, but if it is the other way around maybe they should sell him immediately. Half-season conditions might make Tottenham able to release Kane at a cheaper price. In addition, it seems that Kane is already very keen to leave Tottenham.
Bayern Munich desire to Harry Kane for the upcoming season does indicate their desire to continue to rule the Bundesliga. Kane would surely have a significant impact on the team making him a top target for the representative board headed by Karl Heinz Rummenigge. While it would be great to sign Kane this summer the club is willing to wait until his contract with Spurs expires in 2024. This displays their long term thinking and willingness to wait if it meant investing in a player of Kane calibre. Such a calculated approach demonstrates Bayern Munich dedication to maintaining their leadership position.

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July 06, 2023, 04:06:13 PM
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Granit Xhaka, who is a former Arsenal player, is now in Germany to complete a deal with Leverkusen. Reportedly not only signed a contract with Leverkusen, but at the same time to carry out a medical test as a condition for moving to the new German club.

The transfer fee is around 25 million euros and in my opinion that is quite a fair price for a Granit Xhaka who has so much experience in an English league club. His contract with Leverkusen will last until 2028 and it is a long-term contract that Granit Xhaka will sign to be part of the Leverkusen squad from next season.
With his arrival it seems like Leverkusen will be one of the challengers for the title race next season, although it is too early to say that and although Granit Xhaka is currently 30 years old and in September he will be 31 years old, but as a midfielder he is quite great when playing for Arsenal. The previous season he was even able to make 7 scores and 7 assist from 37 matches in the Premier League, Leverkusen was very lucky to get that man services.

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July 06, 2023, 04:08:59 PM
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Another summer, another three (and counting!) superstars are leaving RB Leipzig.

When people complain about the Bundesliga being a one-club league, well, the fault rarely resides with Bayern Munich.

RB Leipzig has already lost Konrad Laimer (free, Bayern Munich), Christopher Nkunku (€65 million, Chelsea FC), and Dominik Szoboszlai (€70 million, Liverpool FC), while Josko Gvardiol has legitimate interest from Manchester City and is expected to move on.

Losing four players of that caliber would cripple most clubs, but RB Leipzig has a built-in resiliency because of its superior scouting and youth development system. That said, no one will expect Die Roten Bullen to seriously challenge Bayern Munich next season in what abouts to a rebuilding year even with Christoph Baumgartner (Hoffenheim), Benjamin Sesko (Red Bull Salzburg), and Nicolas Seiwald (Red Bull Salzburg) joining the squad.
I do agree with it. The level of competition for the upcoming season will be less challenging than the previous season. It's caused by important players owned by leipzig and dortmund being drained by the clubs from another league while bayern is still remain with its strongest squad.
The competition gonna be a bit easier for bayern next season. That is why people were calling this league as a farmer league. The competitors of bayern were easily selling their developed players to another club.
So many people are boring to see bayern was alwasy winning the title easily. The tradition of making money from selling the players by bayern's rival was just giving bayern easiest way to win the league.

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July 06, 2023, 04:15:11 PM
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I think Kane's situation is the same as Mbappe's, both players want to leave but their clubs are holding them back by giving new contracts and increased salaries. But yes, that situation has been around for a long time I think from the previous few seasons as well and as such, it would be a loss for the club itself if the player is not willing to sign the new contract on offer. So yes, if Bayern Munich can still give $70 million then I think it remains a good advantage for Tottenham too, but if Tottenham are too greedy then of course the money remains a big obstacle for Kane to leave.
Crucial situation for Harry Kane right now due he want leave Tottenham Hotspur and rumor close will join with Bayern Munich next season, but Bayern won't spent above 100 million euro due Harry Kane have been over 30 years old and looks that price most expensive transfer fees. Other side, Tottenham Hotspur hasn't many option want to extend Harry Kane more than several years later due his contract over in the summer of 2024. Left one year for Spurs eant to sell Harry Kane under 100 million euro or possibility he will be free agent of not reach agreement for extending contract with Tottenham Hotspur.

It is actually not hard to understand the situation of both Harry Kane and Mbappé. Both of them want to leave the club and both Tottenham and PSG do not want to let them go.

So they are asking for a huge price for both of them. The situation of Harry Kane is that he wants to win trophies and he is certain that this is not going to happen with Tottenham. And of course, we are going to hear a lot of things from social media and a lot of rumours are going to be heard about them because both of them are hot targets on the transfer list right now. But at the same time, I think we all can agree that both of the clubs should actually let them go.

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July 06, 2023, 04:18:16 PM
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With his arrival it seems like Leverkusen will be one of the challengers for the title race next season, although it is too early to say that and although Granit Xhaka is currently 30 years old and in September he will be 31 years old, but as a midfielder he is quite great when playing for Arsenal. The previous season he was even able to make 7 scores and 7 assist from 37 matches in the Premier League, Leverkusen was very lucky to get that man services.
This is for sure a nice and very good transfer for Leverkusen and he already knows the German League when he was in Gladbach playing 3 years.

Frankfurt also got his next new player , Ellyes Skhiri from Cologne has got an contract to 2026 there.
Union Berlins looking for Robin Gosens is away from the table and will be not coming true that he plays for them,
at the same rumors coming back again that Gosens maybe coming to Wolfsburg.

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For Kane's age, the price of $100 million seems quite expensive. Tottenham don't even want to release him below that price. Actually I'm not too sure Kane is better than Sadio Mane. I think with such a high price, Munich do not need to rush in selling Mane. They can give Mane confidence to perform at least half a season. If he is good then keep him, but if it is the other way around maybe they should sell him immediately. Half-season conditions might make Tottenham able to release Kane at a cheaper price. In addition, it seems that Kane is already very keen to leave Tottenham.
Bayern Munich desire to Harry Kane for the upcoming season does indicate their desire to continue to rule the Bundesliga. Kane would surely have a significant impact on the team making him a top target for the representative board headed by Karl Heinz Rummenigge. While it would be great to sign Kane this summer the club is willing to wait until his contract with Spurs expires in 2024. This displays their long term thinking and willingness to wait if it meant investing in a player of Kane calibre. Such a calculated approach demonstrates Bayern Munich dedication to maintaining their leadership position.
In fact, even though waiting until Harry Kane finishes his contract in 2024, this also requires bigger funds because of course Harry Kane when he is on a free transfer will be contested by other clubs, not just Bayern Munich.
So I think for 2024 Bayern Munich must provide a good offer to be able to get Harry Kane.
If not, it is possible that Bayern Munich will not be able to get him because they will fight over Harry Kane with other big clubs.
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July 06, 2023, 05:05:40 PM
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It was always expected that Kolo Muani would leave, he was just way too good for a team like that and he would be able to go play at any team he wants. All the teams in the world would want him, some of them are willing to pay for him as well.

Let's see which team he picks but looks like it's a done deal that he will leave, that much is guaranteed. Inflation really showed itself on football as well, back in the day anything close to 100 million was reserved for worldstar players, like the best of the best, Ronaldo type of players. Nowadays you get to see maybe at least 50 players that worth near that amount, even if not exactly that much, close to that. Kolo Muani is one of those players, apparently worth 80 million euro right now.

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