Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[ITExpert]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

[Agbe]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

[AYOBA]

Yes, even if we know that Ten Hag will not be able to deliver the performance of Bayer Leverkusen as we saw under Xabi Alonso, we still need to give him more time to see what he will be able to do. But at the same time, let’s not forget this is the same situation we saw when he was appointed at Manchester United. Although almost everyone has no hope in him, let’s still wait and see what time will tell. But I don’t think he has any technical skills or strategy that he will use to change Bayer Leverkusen’s performance from what Xabi has already done. All I pray for is that, even if he doesn’t improve their performance, he shouldn’t spoil it.

Each coach has a unique strategy for improving a team's performance. Leverkusen has a good squad, and their performance is not so poor that Ten Hag will be unable to achieve the positive outcomes.  One thing about a team is that if it performs well, even though they change their manager, their performance will still continue well. Yeah, that’s the same situation he delivered when he was managing Manchester United. But are you aware that the entire Manchester United team has problems, which is why I do not blame Ten Hag?  I am confident that he will do everything he can in order to maintain the Leverkusen form in this Bundesliga and make their squad proud in the upcoming season.

[Ryu_Ar1]

What I know is that the rumors about Sesko some time ago they were close to Arsenal, but it seems that he was hit by ghosting which made it unclear between Sesko and Arsenal so it is possible to find other alternatives if indeed Sesko wants to find a new experience.

Again and to be honest i dont know why Sesko is so hyped after the last season even he scored a few Goals.
But he never played what he can and showed in his last Club he was , maybe thats why Leipzig tries to sell Benjamin Sesko , who knows.

Actually I feel that this is a sales technique carried out by Leipzig where they will seem to elevate a player to make it look expensive and actually if you look at last season's performance it is not much different from the previous 2 seasons for Sesko but it is still in a fairly good context and when the opportunity is there for Leipzig to sell their players again at high prices then they will not let go of that opportunity of course.
But Arsenal's interest now seems a little slack especially when they also currently Arsenal also only make Sesko as an option it seems because there are also several players currently involved with Arsenal rumors with the same position as Sesko.

Currently Manchester United is another new rumor where it is said that Sesko currently wants to be in the squad even though he is aware of the current condition of the squad. But until now there is still no further confirmation of this but if this is true and Manchester United also welcomes this well then I think the advantage is on Leipzig's side.

[Zaguru12]

Currently Manchester United is another new rumor where it is said that Sesko currently wants to be in the squad even though he is aware of the current condition of the squad. But until now there is still no further confirmation of this but if this is true and Manchester United also welcomes this well then I think the advantage is on Leipzig's side.

I won’t be surprised to see Manchester actually getting this player even thigh I am still not sure why many clubs are actually going round him after showing interest. First i will say the wages of anything close to €100m is definitely an outrageous amount due to the numbers the player has actually put up, he has scored that much to worth that amount, he simply just scouted more because most people see the potential in him and that’s just a gamble nothing more to add to that.

For me both Manchester United and Benjamin Sesko are stucked together now. Manchester United need a striker they simply can get a better one with potential than Sesko now, Sesko might be also thinking he deserves a champions league club or worst an European club but with no team coming through he needs to just settle with this one. I think a fee of around €70 million might be reasonable anything above that isn’t reasonable to me

[Slow death]

I know how we can't seriously take the result from the pre-season tour. However, seeing Leverkusen to lose against boys 5-1 is just crazy. This really shows how Brazillian's quality in the football. The good thing is that Leverkusen used 75% of their U18 players in this game. So the result has nothing to do with the future of Leverkusen in Bundesliga.

I used this game to showcase how strong flamengo as a club. I hope to see Leverkusen to use their main squad in the next games to know how storng they're right now.

No matter what arguments you use, a defeat isn't good. Even if you say they played reserve players, they played very young players, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost. So it means that Leverkusen's very young players aren't strong enough to beat Flamengo, and it also means that the coach doesn't have the ability to beat opponents with this team. We're not talking about a simple defeat.

They conceded 5 goals, which is a very high number of goals. So the following comes to mind: why didn't the coach play the first team to get data on how each player performs against strong opponents? I remember that Ten Hang, when he was at Manchester United, took friendlies very seriously, so why is it different now at Leverkusen? Whatever he's thinking, this result isn't a good start for him.

[Republikcoin.com]

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

It's certainly reasonable to hold back on Ten Hag's expectations in his first season with Leverkusen, especially since the team isn't particularly equipped with top players. I don't think we should expect too much next season unless Leverkusen can pull off more unexpected surprises. I also won't judge Ten Hag negatively for those preseason games, as the true assessment will have to be seen in the more serious matches that will come next season. That will be more appropriate to conclude after Ten Hag's first season with Leverkusen.

[Nahl]

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

It's certainly reasonable to hold back on Ten Hag's expectations in his first season with Leverkusen, especially since the team isn't particularly equipped with top players. I don't think we should expect too much next season unless Leverkusen can pull off more unexpected surprises. I also won't judge Ten Hag negatively for those preseason games, as the true assessment will have to be seen in the more serious matches that will come next season. That will be more appropriate to conclude after Ten Hag's first season with Leverkusen.

The fans didn't accept this loses because Leverkusen lost against the team who dominated by junior players but luckily this loses came from pre season games because Ten Hag can evaluate what is Leverkusen weaknesses in this game but indeed after this loses some people are fear Ten Hag will be failed to make Leverkusen performing well next season

Before Bundesliga begin i have seen to the fixtures of Leverkusen they will do 4 games for pre season so it's interesting to see whether Ten Hag can able to improve this team or not but speaking about the rumour of transfer players it says Ten Hag is considering want to buy Antony from Manchester United

[shinratensei_]

No reason to take that Flamengo U20 - Leverkusen game seriously. We should actually say Leverkusen U19.    Because the midfield and defense lines were both full of U19 players.

We will find out what Erik ten Hag will do during the season. Don't get carried away with friendlies. Players don't play those games with the same psychology and focus as in-season official games.

Nobody takes that bad result by young team of leverkusen seriously. Nevertheless, they still added some key players in the squad such as Boniface. So, that result still quite embarrassing yeah. They should make it draw or loss with narrow score at very least.
In conclusion, Flamengo young generation seems in another level compared to the Leverkusen.

[Velvet78]

I have heard that Bayern Munich is after the youngster Nick Woltemade (23). He is a SS mainly but can play as CF and AM as well. However there is a problem...

They made a huge offer like 55 million euros + 10% sell-on clause to Stuttgart. But it was still rejected.    His market value is 30 million euros. However it seems like they have an abnormal price tag in their mind.

Is he really worth that much you think? He had an average season the last time. He started to play in the main squad of German national team too. But I don't think he is worth a huge amount now.

[bitLeap]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

Imagine that Leverksen was built by so extraordinary that it could be a strong contender in the Bundesliga so a team that looked weak in the hands of Erik ten Hag. But we cannot judge this too quickly, as Erik Ten Hag reputation at Man United continues to be linked until now. The league hasn't started yet and let's give him 1 season to make sure.

[Mayor of ogba]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

The people judging Erik Ten Hag by the defeat Bayern Leverkusen conceded against Flamengo U20 should know that Erik Ten Hag winning his preseason matches doesn't justify that he will do well at Bayern Leverkusen next season; they should wait until the new German Bundesliga season starts, and if Erik Ten Hag fails to do well at Bayern Leverkusen, they can start judging him.

[$weetne$$]

Yes, even if we know that Ten Hag will not be able to deliver the performance of Bayer Leverkusen as we saw under Xabi Alonso, we still need to give him more time to see what he will be able to do. But at the same time, let’s not forget this is the same situation we saw when he was appointed at Manchester United. Although almost everyone has no hope in him, let’s still wait and see what time will tell. But I don’t think he has any technical skills or strategy that he will use to change Bayer Leverkusen’s performance from what Xabi has already done. All I pray for is that, even if he doesn’t improve their performance, he shouldn’t spoil it.

Obviously Xabi and Ten Hag are two different persons so we can not be expecting exactly the same thing from them. Xabi did what he did because of his own kind of experience and Ten Hag has got his own kind of experience with which he is going to use as the head coach of Leverkusen so we cannot be expecting same result from the both of them. Ten Hag has come to meet s good foundation from which Xabi has set over the period of time he has been their coach, I want to believe he will be able to use it to his advantage.

[ShowOff]

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The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

Imagine that Leverksen was built by so extraordinary that it could be a strong contender in the Bundesliga so a team that looked weak in the hands of Erik ten Hag. But we cannot judge this too quickly, as Erik Ten Hag reputation at Man United continues to be linked until now. The league hasn't started yet and let's give him 1 season to make sure.

The new season hasn't started yet, and it's not time to criticize Ten Hag. His poor reputation at Manchester United shouldn't be used as a basis for criticism, that would be unfair. He deserves to be respected like any other manager who is trying to bring something new to the Bundesliga. I've noticed the spotlight on Ten Hag is so intense that it's overshadowing his work in the transfer market to build squad depth for Leverkusen.

Ten Hag deserves a chance, and his prospects for success with Leverkusen are clearly wide open. Whatever of the dynamics of the trophy race next season, Leverkusen will likely remain a force to be reckoned with. The team performance isn't entirely dependent on Ten Hag, the players also share in the responsibility. If Ten Hag can adapt quickly, I believe the criticism against him will turn into praise.

[Black Mbaye]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

Leverkusen manager Ten Hag may not even be able to finish a season. Remember the last match they played? They lost 5-1 to Flamengo's under-20 team. This is a shameful performance for Bayer Leverkusen. Even if they had used substitutes, they shouldn't have conceded such a large margin to the Brazilian youngsters. Bayer Leverkusen played a terrible game. I think they'll perform nothing more than mediocre in the Bundesliga next year.

[mv1986]

Because Ten Hag had a very difficult season at Man United, it was felt that he was considered a bad coach. And especially as Xabi's replacement, it would certainly be considered very bad if he couldn't deliver the best results.

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

The coach Eric Ten Hag is most under discussion due to his failure in Manchester United and his replacement with the coach Xabi Alonso in Bayern leverkusen. But the main thing is predicting his performance by seeing the pre season matches is completely unfair. Maybe they planned some changes for the season and noticed mistakes in pre-season matches. I think it's wrong to make an image about someone by seeing his previous mistakes. It's not necessarily the same things that will be repeated in another place or with new faces. So, let's motivate him somehow so that he can do well and even more well. He just needs to focus on his goal and avoid the negative things circulating about him. And his relation with the players must be as strong and friendly as possible.

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

It's entertaining to read what all the posters here make out of the players' and the clubs' names. Leverkusen is turned into Bayern Leverkusen and now Erik ten Hag sounds a like a guy who was born in China, going by the name "ten hang" now. To summarise the fantasy wordings from the Bundesliga thread, the coach ten hang will soon be coaching Bayern Leverkusen, lol.

It is not just prejudices about ten Hag. He has a history as a coach who can't get along very well with many players or people in general. I think contrasting Xabi Alonso and ten Hag makes sense as they both have a fundamentally different idea of how communication should work. Alonso did well, I suspect that ten Hag won't reach that same level of acceptance in Leverkusen and he certainly won't break any records.

[TelolettOm]

Unfortunately, in this opening match, Ten Hag was actually embarrassed by being defeated by Flamengo U20, even though it was a friendly match.

Wait, so this is true! I was scrolling down on Facebook and saw a post by Fabrizio on his page were he posted, Flamingo U20  4 Vs Bayern Leverkusen 0 HT, like four goals to nothing against Leverkusen and it's not even their main but by the U20. I went online to check to confirm if it wasn't a prank by Fabrizio. How really did this Leverkusen side turn out like this under Ten Hang, it might be just a friendly match but common, against U20's?

Yes, at first I also saw it in some memes and thought it was just a mockery of Ten Hag, but when I found it on Leverkusen's Twitter, ah, this is true. And even more so on Google. Even though this is just a friendly match, is it possible that Ten Hag is that relaxed and not that serious about preparing his squad? After all, it's the first match; he should understand the club's expectations under his coaching.

It's not easy, but even if they lose a friendly match, it shouldn't mean they have to be slaughtered, especially by a U20 club.  
here is what reaction from Ten hag after this bad defeat

Source: reaction from Ten hag after this bad defeat

[Hyphen(-)]

Leverkusen manager Ten Hag may not even be able to finish a season. Remember the last match they played? They lost 5-1 to Flamengo's under-20 team. This is a shameful performance for Bayer Leverkusen. Even if they had used substitutes, they shouldn't have conceded such a large margin to the Brazilian youngsters. Bayer Leverkusen played a terrible game. I think they'll perform nothing more than mediocre in the Bundesliga next year.

Unfortunately, many of you guys are looking down on Ten Hag’s ability to transform or retain Leverkusen’s standard just because he failed to bring Manchester U utter back to glory, forgetting that he was one of the best managers when they signed him from Ajax. I am confident about Ten Hag. I think he can do better in Leverkusen than he did in Manchester United if the team can give him the chance to sign all his desired players.

Using one match to judge a coach isn’t proper; he is new to the club, he needs some time to settle down and study his players, and he also needs to put them through his tactics so that they can just be on the same page to move the team to the next step. These preseason games will be where he will make sure the players get it right before the beginning of next season.

[Raflesia]

I know how we can't seriously take the result from the pre-season tour. However, seeing Leverkusen to lose against boys 5-1 is just crazy. This really shows how Brazillian's quality in the football. The good thing is that Leverkusen used 75% of their U18 players in this game. So the result has nothing to do with the future of Leverkusen in Bundesliga.

I used this game to showcase how strong flamengo as a club. I hope to see Leverkusen to use their main squad in the next games to know how storng they're right now.

Will there be a second Manchester United in the Bundesliga now?
This was a friendly, but Leverkusen's crushing defeat against an under-20 club was clearly a blow and a bad start for Ten Hag.

He knows he's being scrutinized by many, especially given his current reputation, which hasn't been particularly good since his failure at Manchester United. He should have given his best in his current coaching role, but the score in their first friendly was quite disappointing.
Hopefully, this is just the beginning and will be followed by good results later, as it would be very disappointing if this kind of performance continues, and it would be a blow for Leverkusen if their season starts with this kind of performance.

[Akbarkoe]

It's too early to start judging ten hang because of his preseasons games which are just for the purpose of practice and keeping fit we have to wait until the new season starts before we can start throwing stones at him and again we should not expect ten hang to replicate what Xabi Alonso was able to do in Leverkusen because anyone expecting ten hang to do so well be disappointed as Xabi was super exceptional while at Leverkusen

It's certainly reasonable to hold back on Ten Hag's expectations in his first season with Leverkusen, especially since the team isn't particularly equipped with top players. I don't think we should expect too much next season unless Leverkusen can pull off more unexpected surprises. I also won't judge Ten Hag negatively for those preseason games, as the true assessment will have to be seen in the more serious matches that will come next season. That will be more appropriate to conclude after Ten Hag's first season with Leverkusen.

So, what can we expect from Eric Ten Hag? He hopes he can return to the pinnacle of his coaching career and achieve the same success he achieved during his time with Ajax Amsterdam. This isn't just his first season coaching Leverkusen, but it's also his first coaching a Bundesliga club. He does have considerable coaching experience, but he lacks the experience to coach a Bundesliga club. And if, with ETH, Bayer Leverkusen can't maintain its status as a title contender, then hiring ETH as Leverkusen's new coach would be a poor decision by the club's owners. It's still too early to judge ETH, but the signs of Leverkusen's decline under ETH are already evident.