CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[bronepoezd]

is there any chance to get coins back?

[eddie13]

I feel pretty bad for everyone that just lost coin there...

As for me.. Estimated Acct BTC Value0.00000309

[Gleb Gamow]

Hey Vern,
No worries on reporting it to law enforcement. There's a lot of people out there that will take care of that for you now. Not reporting those stolen coins to the authorities and having admitted everything now, means that you are guilty of obstruction of justice at a minimum.

So I'll give you another fucking option:


Here are our options:
1.   We shut down the website and file bankruptcy, letting users file claims via the bankruptcy process and letting the court make the disbursements.
-   or –
2.   Somebody else comes in to purchase and run Cryptsy while also making good on requested withdrawals.
-   or –
3.   If somehow we are able to re-aquire the stolen funds, then we allow all withdrawal requests to process.
-   or –
4.   We notify law enforcement and they seize you and your wife's personal assets in connection with the criminal enterprise that you have been runningfor the past year. Then you go to jail. In addition, expect a deluge of civil suits.

I'm drafting a complaint to the Florida AG right now.

master-P[aul Vernon]: Okay, I return all the money. Please give me a couple weeks and promise not to dox me, mmmkay?

[shitalsmenon]

And ya forgot to Thank all you guys for keeping at it , sparing time to keep beginners like me and many as safe as could ! You all are and were doing great job of keeping this community as safe as could directly or indirectly ! Great work guys ! We need you people always be there here in this community !  

[Gleb Gamow]

for missing BTC - cryptsy produced an explanation

but why all other altcoins are blocked?

very good questions . We need more details about the alts holdings.

edit : ahh , he said

About a year and a half ago, we were alerted in the early AM of a reduction in our safe/cold wallet balances of Bitcoin and Litecoin, as well as a couple other smaller cryptocurrencies.

plz define "a couple other"  

One of the "couple other smaller cryptocurrencies" is DASH.

450,000+ DASH, enough to control its 'decentralized governance' forever, moved four hours after the BTC and LTC.

The Evan's Gate cultists on on suicide watch, as they realize what will happen when that many get dumped into a very (thanks to Crypty's absence) shallow pool of bids.

signs point to at least some Dash being stolen...

Withdrawal issues are being caused by lack of funds in Craptsy wallets... which means, someone stole them...

Any idea how much Dash is 'stuck' at Craptsy? (this is how much was stolen)

I see a block, 4 hours(?) after the 13,000 BTC was stolen from Craptsy, which shows 456,501 Dash being moved (stolen?):
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/block.dws?110242.htm

Any chance Craptsy would confirm/deny that ~450k Dash was stolen?

oh shit 450,000 DASH if true its worse than the Mintpal theft

Don't feel sorry for them, they deserve it after

1. white knighting for Cryptsy while many others were trying to sound the alarm and warn people

2. attacking Poloniex, the exchange that disclosed a theft but earned back the money and repaid everyone

3. refusing to stop putting their trust into individuals like BigVern and Evan Daftfield.

Getting burned to a crisp is the only way those people will learn.

Speaking of MintPal, wait till you read the forthcoming email dump. HAHAHA

[Spoetnik]

The final chat log:

edit: added a couple more lines.

o0o0au: @Lurker: bonds and the like yes... but I added less lies by people in charge

Lurker: @TheVisitor: yes and unlike you I understand English

Lurker: @o0o0au: +1

NerdLifeLabs: I also hate losing you guys maybe we need a site to reg our user names with contact info so we can keep in touch

Lurker: yeah, chat looks REALLY broken!  NOT!!!

Quicksilver: @NerdLifeLabs: I suggested that earlier but no one seems interested in doing something constructive yet.

o0o0au: amusing I wouldn't chat ban though as money goes to cryptsy!!!

TheVisitor: @o0o0au:  What money?

o0o0au: @TheVisitor: well potential bankruptsy claims maybe

o0o0au: left over altcoins... crumbs?

Spidersbox: @NerdLifeLabs:you can keep in touch on cryptopia, and other ex

mwxpra: what's wrong with system

o0o0au: so isn't cold storage offline how did that get attacked if it was manual moves?

o0o0au: doesn't it seem weird to staff to not confirm those crazy amounts against balances?

TheVisitor: I cant believe we can still use chat when it is locked and others are frozen out, so odd.

Lurker: @o0o0au: starting to catch the nonsense, BRAVO

TheVisitor: @Lurker: just refresh ull see.

Lurker: @TheVisitor: I have

HairyT596: Well they did secretly pay back 2,000 BTC per year for 1.5 years.  Re-institute trading fees, and limit withdrawals to a fair necessary rate and rebuild trust.  Probably a 3rd party angel investor would restore lost confidence - I believe they are doing their best to repair the hole.

Quicksilver: @o0o0au: "...we were alerted in the early AM of a reduction in our safe/cold wallet balances..."

HairyT596: No reason for this place to die on account of this.

HairyT596: Except the whole confidence thing.

Lurker: @HairyT596: trust can be earned

HairyT596: At least we have a reasonable explanation and it doesn't read like the manifesto of a scammer.

HairyT596: But it's very late coming.

HairyT596: It makes sense why.  Catch-22 really.

HairyT596: But what about the mining?  Was that diverted?  Cuz, well, I never got word that they were no longer going to pay out.

Lurker: @HairyT596: that is an issue

DarthRomes: So what happens to all of the alt coins currently?  Are they going to be sold to recover Cryptys losses?  Why not allow their owners to withdraw them.

HairyT596: @Lurker:Particularly for me.  I have quite a few of them.

jk9694: wow

NerdLifeLabs: :Im sorry guys chats being shut down

jk9694: by Nerd, see you in the google hangouts and in NETcoin chat

mwxpra: ?

Jagrapolite: ppl banning ppl?!

Jagrapolite: no way

Jagrapolite: bans eh ?

barbee23743: bans will make em dance

luciferdark873: пpивeт вceм

luciferdark873: вывoд нe пoчинили?

pmalek: Freedom of speech ?! No? Not a nice way to go Cryptsy...

pablitos830: did cryptsy

pablitos830: ya fue  chat tambien

Eddie13: Cryptsy is dead?

Eddie13: for real?

Eddie13: RIP

pmalek: Guys if you want to continue converstaion regarding Cryptsy join us on @Crypsty channel on http://webchat.freenode.net

pmalek: #Cryptsy

pmalek: freenode

Eddie13: THE END

Eddie13: END END END

Eddie13: end

Eddie13: Can't ban this!!

Eddie13: na na na na

Eddie13: na na

bangbangbang: 111

[GoldSeal]

The final chat log:

o0o0au: @Lurker: bonds and the like yes... but I added less lies by people in charge

Lurker: @TheVisitor: yes and unlike you I understand English

Lurker: @o0o0au: +1

NerdLifeLabs: I also hate losing you guys maybe we need a site to reg our user names with contact info so we can keep in touch

Lurker: yeah, chat looks REALLY broken!  NOT!!!

Quicksilver: @NerdLifeLabs: I suggested that earlier but no one seems interested in doing something constructive yet.

o0o0au: amusing I wouldn't chat ban though as money goes to cryptsy!!!

TheVisitor: @o0o0au:  What money?

o0o0au: @TheVisitor: well potential bankruptsy claims maybe

o0o0au: left over altcoins... crumbs?

Spidersbox: @NerdLifeLabs:you can keep in touch on cryptopia, and other ex

mwxpra: what's wrong with system

o0o0au: so isn't cold storage offline how did that get attacked if it was manual moves?

o0o0au: doesn't it seem weird to staff to not confirm those crazy amounts against balances?

TheVisitor: I cant believe we can still use chat when it is locked and others are frozen out, so odd.

Lurker: @o0o0au: starting to catch the nonsense, BRAVO

TheVisitor: @Lurker: just refresh ull see.

Lurker: @TheVisitor: I have

HairyT596: Well they did secretly pay back 2,000 BTC per year for 1.5 years.  Re-institute trading fees, and limit withdrawals to a fair necessary rate and rebuild trust.  Probably a 3rd party angel investor would restore lost confidence - I believe they are doing their best to repair the hole.

Quicksilver: @o0o0au: "...we were alerted in the early AM of a reduction in our safe/cold wallet balances..."

HairyT596: No reason for this place to die on account of this.

HairyT596: Except the whole confidence thing.

Lurker: @HairyT596: trust can be earned

HairyT596: At least we have a reasonable explanation and it doesn't read like the manifesto of a scammer.

HairyT596: But it's very late coming.

HairyT596: It makes sense why.  Catch-22 really.

HairyT596: But what about the mining?  Was that diverted?  Cuz, well, I never got word that they were no longer going to pay out.

Lurker: @HairyT596: that is an issue

DarthRomes: So what happens to all of the alt coins currently?  Are they going to be sold to recover Cryptys losses?  Why not allow their owners to withdraw them.

HairyT596: @Lurker:Particularly for me.  I have quite a few of them.

jk9694: wow

NerdLifeLabs: :Im sorry guys chats being shut down

jk9694: by Nerd, see you in the google hangouts and in NETcoin chat

mwxpra: ?

Jagrapolite: ppl banning ppl?!

Jagrapolite: no way

Jagrapolite: bans eh ?

barbee23743: bans will make em dance

luciferdark873: пpивeт вceм

luciferdark873: вывoд нe пoчинили?

pmalek: Freedom of speech ?! No? Not a nice way to go Cryptsy...

pablitos830: did cryptsy

pablitos830: ya fue  chat tambien

Eddie13: Cryptsy is dead?

Eddie13: for real?

Eddie13: RIP

pmalek: Guys if you want to continue converstaion regarding Cryptsy join us on @Crypsty channel on http://webchat.freenode.net

pmalek: #Cryptsy

pmalek: freenode

Eddie13: THE END

So who was the final person to ever be banned on Cryptsy, well before all customers were effectively banned.

[GoldSeal]

is there any chance to get coins back?

There is a class action filed by Silver Law. You should contact them. Also, you will get contacted by the trustee overseeing the bankruptcy proceedings. Eventually, in a year or two you will likely get paid in fiat. It's unlikely that yo will see actual coins. The actual amount you receive all depends on when those coins get liquidated to raise money for the creditors. So don't expect to get current prices when they do pay off and certainly not the full amount.

[MemberCount+1]

He really need to give all details on the other alt transactions as well.

We need to see the ltc and other coins "steal" events. all of them.

Also the code for the trojan, logs, etc.

I assume that Vern got paid...  

Vern bought a million dollar house about a year ago.

Yeah, but if he would've used that money, there still would've been about five million dollars outstanding, thus wouldn't have made much of a difference, so new house it was so that he could enjoy fucking the living shit outta his petite Asian wife till she left his scammy ass and is probably now fucking Bubba's throughout Miami, not counting the well-hung white dudes every day of the week. HAHAHA

If he knew a crime occurred, didn't report it, and collected even a single penny after the fact, he's guilty of compounding a felony. That blog is his confession. He's toast now.

i only had about .35 btc in there, is it worth me joining the lawsuit? and do you have their contact info? of you cant public ally post it , can you PM it to me? thanks!

The same value, can I join this Group?

[eddie13]

So who was the final person to ever be banned on Cryptsy, well before all customers were effectively banned.

Me

[GoldSeal]

He really need to give all details on the other alt transactions as well.

We need to see the ltc and other coins "steal" events. all of them.

Also the code for the trojan, logs, etc.

I assume that Vern got paid...  

Vern bought a million dollar house about a year ago.

Yeah, but if he would've used that money, there still would've been about five million dollars outstanding, thus wouldn't have made much of a difference, so new house it was so that he could enjoy fucking the living shit outta his petite Asian wife till she left his scammy ass and is probably now fucking Bubba's throughout Miami, not counting the well-hung white dudes every day of the week. HAHAHA

If he knew a crime occurred, didn't report it, and collected even a single penny after the fact, he's guilty of compounding a felony. That blog is his confession. He's toast now.

i only had about .35 btc in there, is it worth me joining the lawsuit? and do you have their contact info? of you cant public ally post it , can you PM it to me? thanks!

The same value, can I join this Group?

They won't add small holders to the class action. There is no need. During the proceedings, you'll be contacted and you'll have the opportunity to register to receive part of the payout. Same with the bankruptcy proceedings. Honestly, its best if the class action fails and the bankrupcy proceedings are where you get your money. Through the class action, the lawyer takes a huge cut.

[eddie13]

I'm still getting banned

pmalek
Guys if you want to continue converstaion regarding Cryptsy join us on @Crypsty channel on http://webchat.freenode.net
pmalek
#Cryptsy
pmalek
freenode
Eddie13
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Eddie13
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[Gleb Gamow]

i find it cute Jagropolite is STILL on their chat kissing ass. (see my SIG link SuperLurk)

And when does cyberpinoy & Terrik pop up saying.. I Told You So ?

Seems staff crying FUD by Trolls with an agenda all over the web were uhhh lying

Guess what ?

..

I TOLD YOU SO

I suspect Jagropolite has known about the issue for a while, He has been systematically FUDing EVERY other exchange, including a 23 page rant from an exchange over 1 (yes 1) withdraw issue, but proceeded to defend and ensure people cryptsy was safe during MONTHS of withdraw issues.

I suspect this was a ploy to try bring more customers to Crypsty in hopes of keeping a float.


He is also heavily involved in a few coins ADT, HTML5 and NYC, so anyone with those coins should look out for similar exploits.


This guy (or girl) knows a LOT more that he is letting on.


My 2 satoshis.

Jagropolite is a she named Joan Smith from Georgia. I have her full dox.

[4power]

@Cryptsy.

Just pull a bter.com with jua.com after bter.com got hacked  
Could potentially be one of the bigger (or biggest alt-coin) exchanges then. Just merge Cryptsy and their user database!  

http://www.coindesk.com/bter-to-return-hacked-funds-following-security-partnership/

[GoldSeal]

So who was the final person to ever be banned on Cryptsy, well before all customers were effectively banned.

Me

We have to get you a prize. seriously. WHo wants to pitch in?

[GoldSeal]

This was definitely a "mean trolls drinking potions and casting spells" type of situation.

[GoldSeal]

Is Crypsty selling everything? There is a huge dump in price at the moment, could it be linked?

I doubt it. They don't have coins.

[MemberCount+1]

...

They won't add small holders to the class action. There is no need. During the proceedings, you'll be contacted and you'll have the opportunity to register to receive part of the payout. Same with the bankruptcy proceedings. Honestly, its best if the class action fails and the bankrupcy proceedings are where you get your money. Through the class action, the lawyer takes a huge cut.

Ok thx.

[Gleb Gamow]

I am very disappointed by the Mods and Admins... "all ok, we working hard, blablabla"  

"Karl Wingnuts reporting for CNN. It seems like the Mods and Admins of Cryptsy are working hard (no pun intended). We just spoke with one of Cryptsy's support staff donning a Texas cowboy hat and opting to remain anonymous, so I'll refer to him as Jim Stockney, no relation to Ginny the Texas Whore, and he said, "It's hard to keep the pile warm at night, but we're doin' the best we can.""

[MemberCount+1]

someone sell cryptsy alt-coins!?