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June 30, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
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Norrie had some really unexpected difficulties with Munar today - I expected that one to end really fast and in straight sets.
Ultimately he wasn't in any real danger because he won the last 2 sets quite easily - but I'm sure he expected it to be a quicker match.

Tomorrow we have Krajinović vs Kyrgios, that one should be interesting.
Was just checking markets for today and I am quite disappointed. Not one match that really interests me. This one you mentioned could be good, but I am afraid to bet on it. Both players had way too much problems in first match when you account for their opponents lack of quality.

Nothing interesting on women's side as well. Swiatek @1.01 is unplayable, maybe only some handicap on Kvitova.

True. There are not many interesting matches today. But there is one that I find interesting. Filip Krajinović - Nick Kyrgios. If Kyrgios does not complain as much as he did in his first round, he can go very far in this tournament. He plays very well on grass and he should win this match.
Yes, Nick is a good grass player no doubt about it, but then again, the attitude though, that what makes Nick affect his performance in what like 3-4 years already. He is good no doubt only if he can focus on the game.

I think it's gonna be a slow second round for the ladies, we will see how Nadal vs Berankis in the second round. Surprising 3 set win by Alcaraz over Griekspoor. Unfortunately, fan favorite Andy Murray has been booted out in 4 sets by Isner.

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June 30, 2022, 11:44:57 AM
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There are not many interesting matches today. But there is one that I find interesting. Filip Krajinović - Nick Kyrgios. If Kyrgios does not complain as much as he did in his first round, he can go very far in this tournament. He plays very well on grass and he should win this match.
Yes, Nick is a good grass player no doubt about it, but then again, the attitude though, that what makes Nick affect his performance in what like 3-4 years already. He is good no doubt only if he can focus on the game.

I think it's gonna be a slow second round for the ladies, we will see how Nadal vs Berankis in the second round. Surprising 3 set win by Alcaraz over Griekspoor. Unfortunately, fan favorite Andy Murray has been booted out in 4 sets by Isner.

I saw the latter part of Kyrgios's first round match. He was playing a Brit (Paul Jubb) who is ranked outside the top 200 and has never done anything before. It was a 5-setter, and although Kyrgios won that final set 7-5, he was actually break-point down when serving at 5-5. If he'd lost that one point, then Jubb would have been serving for the match, and likely would have gone through. The fact that Krygios was so close to losing a match that he should have won without any trouble makes me sceptical that he's going to go far. I know he's volatile, and you can never tell what he's going to do, how he's going to play... but nevertheless this match was a bit of a warning sign.






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June 30, 2022, 01:11:11 PM
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Given what happened at the GS in Australia with Djokovic, and the limitations of Covid, and given the announcements that unvaccinated foreign players will not be able to play in America, I find it a little strange that at Wimbledon no one cares about it, there are no restrictions, testing, nothing...
There were even rumors that some tennis players at the GS in Paris were infected with Covid but still played because they didn't have to get tested and didn't even tell anyone.
Is this about double standards to save the tournament and allow all tennis players to play, regardless of the health hazard?
On the other hand, it seems that in America, domestic players will be able to play unvaccinated but not foreigners. There really are a lot of double standards and hypocrisy here and Djokovic and others has a right to be angry.

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June 30, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

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June 30, 2022, 02:58:18 PM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

Whatever he does, he'll never be my favorite while betting. He's just too unpredictable and his talent doesn't really mean a thing when he just switches off and decides not to play anymore.

I quite dislike him as a character as well but I will root for him against Tsitsipas - I made a bet that Tsitsipas is going out in the 3rd round at the beginning of the tournament.

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June 30, 2022, 03:18:24 PM
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On the other hand, it seems that in America, domestic players will be able to play unvaccinated but not foreigners. There really are a lot of double standards and hypocrisy here and Djokovic and others has a right to be angry.

interesting topic, and often elaborated by all my friends and collegues, due to Djokovic, but I have to say that all countries have their rights to exercise whatever they like on their soil, as all people have certain rules in their own house

back to tournament, Nadal just started, Kyrgios was very good
Isner get me some money yesterday, Alcaraz proved that he has some skills on grass as well, and Norrie basically survived

Garin is using his chance, third round following Berrattini covid positive result
 
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

I havent seen a better Kyrgios in a long time. He was playing perfect his serve was just perfect and his return on serve. If he continues like this we will see him at least in the semi finals. I just wonder how long he will play this good until he starts doing stupid stuff

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June 30, 2022, 07:40:54 PM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

Whatever he does, he'll never be my favorite while betting. He's just too unpredictable and his talent doesn't really mean a thing when he just switches off and decides not to play anymore.

I quite dislike him as a character as well but I will root for him against Tsitsipas - I made a bet that Tsitsipas is going out in the 3rd round at the beginning of the tournament.

Krygios' performance can differ a lot from day to day. He is a little unreliable player about this topic. However the morale of this kind of players must have increased to upper level absolutely as some of the favourites have said goodbye to the tournament already now. But I don't think of making any bet on this tournament. Whoever I bet on has said goodbye to the tournament in first round.

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June 30, 2022, 09:03:12 PM
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I read an interview with van de Zandschulp. He said that Kyrgios is a clown because he mainly wants to entertain people on the track itself. You can see that a lot of people are in favor of Kyrgios, but I think he is being too lax about it. He can play tennis very well, but he is not going to win a Grand Slam for the time being. By the way, Alcaraz made a good impression, he could also score high. He is better on gravel than on grass. Van Rijthoven's fairy tale continues to last. Only player who has won all his matches on the ATP to date.

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July 01, 2022, 06:31:03 AM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

Whatever he does, he'll never be my favorite while betting. He's just too unpredictable and his talent doesn't really mean a thing when he just switches off and decides not to play anymore.

I quite dislike him as a character as well but I will root for him against Tsitsipas - I made a bet that Tsitsipas is going out in the 3rd round at the beginning of the tournament.

Krygios' performance can differ a lot from day to day. He is a little unreliable player about this topic. However the morale of this kind of players must have increased to upper level absolutely as some of the favourites have said goodbye to the tournament already now. But I don't think of making any bet on this tournament. Whoever I bet on has said goodbye to the tournament in first round.

Ah we all know Kyrgios' weakness as well as his talent and we get frustrated
watching him 99% of the time but I cant believe he doesnt care and that deep down he doesnt
want to do well. I think he is on the verge of doing something great.

Why do I think that?

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

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July 01, 2022, 08:22:51 AM
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A little better day at Wimbledon for me today, at least judging by markets. I have my eyes set on surprise in Alcaraz match. Otte has been very good on grass this season and I expect him to even win the match but for added security I placed bets on +5.5 handicap and to take at least one set. I coupled that with Van Rijtoven ML.

It is abot time to get a winning ticket so fingers crossed.

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July 01, 2022, 08:30:17 AM
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A little better day at Wimbledon for me today, at least judging by markets. I have my eyes set on surprise in Alcaraz match. Otte has been very good on grass this season and I expect him to even win the match but for added security I placed bets on +5.5 handicap and to take at least one set. I coupled that with Van Rijtoven ML.

It is abot time to get a winning ticket so fingers crossed.

usually, I read your tips and generally agree, but today I am on other side of both bets
Alcaraz is not grass player, but good enough to beat Otte on any surface, so I am going with him again, and regarding Van Rijtoven, he is at the point where he has to lose sometime, and probably sooner than later, but I am going with handicap on Basil, @1.4 Rijthoven is no value, IMO

but today, handicap on Djokovic has to pass, Kecmanovic should get more than 10 gems in the match
and Norrie should go through against Johnson
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July 01, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
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A little better day at Wimbledon for me today, at least judging by markets. I have my eyes set on surprise in Alcaraz match. Otte has been very good on grass this season and I expect him to even win the match but for added security I placed bets on +5.5 handicap and to take at least one set. I coupled that with Van Rijtoven ML.

It is abot time to get a winning ticket so fingers crossed.
Will tail you the Otte vs Alcaraz match, but I will go with +4.5 handicap on Otte. We will know if Alcaraz is a well rounded player if he keeps on winning on grass. But we all know that his specially is clay so this is going to be a big test for him to go against Otte who is a very good grass player.

Just a single bet for me, I don't what to be destroyed in a parlay just like the last time when Hurkacz lost his match.

Best of luck.

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My small bet for the day:

Backing Isner to do himself a favour and get another good showing, Sinner's rightly the favourite but think the American's serve is really doing him wonders... plus of course to avenge his straight set defeat last year. Over 25/10, and I parlayed that with Humbert for almost 6/1.

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

I have to say though, and this isn't sexist I hope, it's simply the way I think works for either (multiple) side(s) of a partnership -- if you're doing it for someone else, it's not sustainable.

But well if that's true, then all the better for everyone enjoying the game. Just that I've seen it in football myself, no one can help you out of a spiral if you don't do it for yourself (not on your own, mind you, but for yourself).

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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

That's always the main problem with Kyrgios, he has the talent to win it, but the chances equally exist that he gets mad for something and throws it away. Maybe this year can be different, he withdraw from the Mens double to focus on his single match and his upcoming match against Tsitsipas can also tell us something. According to the bookies, Kyrgrios is the favorite to win with an odd of 1.7.



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July 01, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

That's always the main problem with Kyrgios, he has the talent to win it, but the chances equally exist that he gets mad for something and throws it away. Maybe this year can be different, he withdraw from the Mens double to focus on his single match and his upcoming match against Tsitsipas can also tell us something. According to the bookies, Kyrgrios is the favorite to win with an odd of 1.7.
He always takes it personally vs top 10 players or someone he respects. Only when he isnt able to keep it up physically. He breaks down completely. Going to be an interesting match for sure.

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July 01, 2022, 11:18:52 AM
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Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

That's always the main problem with Kyrgios, he has the talent to win it, but the chances equally exist that he gets mad for something and throws it away. Maybe this year can be different, he withdraw from the Mens double to focus on his single match and his upcoming match against Tsitsipas can also tell us something. According to the bookies, Kyrgrios is the favorite to win with an odd of 1.7.
I did not know he plays against Tsitsipas next. This is a good match to bet on Kyrgios, I mean as good as it gets. Good odds against opponent who is not at his best on grass and against opponent who is big enough name to inspire him.

H2H is strongly on Kyrgios side as well, 3 wins and one loss, with last win coming on grass just few weeks ago.

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July 01, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
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Ah we all know Kyrgios' weakness as well as his talent and we get frustrated
watching him 99% of the time but I cant believe he doesnt care and that deep down he doesnt
want to do well. I think he is on the verge of doing something great.

Why do I think that?

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

When he's good he's great, when he's not he's not. If his girlfriend had changed his attitude, and he was playing at maximum Kyrgios every match, he'd be almost untouchable and one of the top favourites for the tournament.
But we only have to go back to his match in the earlier round against the unknown 200+ ranked Paul Jubb. At break-point down at 5-5 in the fifth, Kyrgios was nearly out. He won that game with a sudden flurry of three unreturnable serves, and from there won the match. But he was probably a single point away from going out there, just a couple of days ago.

Of course he may win the tournament, but equally, he may have another off-day or off-thirty-minutes at a crucial moment. The problem from a betting perspective is we just can never tell. I don't think I've ever placed a bet for or against him, he's too unpredictable.






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July 01, 2022, 11:58:24 AM
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My small bet for the day:

Backing Isner to do himself a favour and get another good showing, Sinner's rightly the favourite but think the American's serve is really doing him wonders... plus of course to avenge his straight set defeat last year. Over 25/10, and I parlayed that with Humbert for almost 6/1.

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

I have to say though, and this isn't sexist I hope, it's simply the way I think works for either (multiple) side(s) of a partnership -- if you're doing it for someone else, it's not sustainable.

But well if that's true, then all the better for everyone enjoying the game. Just that I've seen it in football myself, no one can help you out of a spiral if you don't do it for yourself (not on your own, mind you, but for yourself).

Yea I agree, the change or motivation has to start with yourself and others can help you
keep a momentum up. Those other people can be the key though especially a spouse or
intimate someone, they can be closer in a different way to a coach and can "influence" you
to change your way of thinking generally for the better


Ah we all know Kyrgios' weakness as well as his talent and we get frustrated
watching him 99% of the time but I cant believe he doesnt care and that deep down he doesnt
want to do well. I think he is on the verge of doing something great.

Why do I think that?

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

When he's good he's great, when he's not he's not. If his girlfriend had changed his attitude, and he was playing at maximum Kyrgios every match, he'd be almost untouchable and one of the top favourites for the tournament.
But we only have to go back to his match in the earlier round against the unknown 200+ ranked Paul Jubb. At break-point down at 5-5 in the fifth, Kyrgios was nearly out. He won that game with a sudden flurry of three unreturnable serves, and from there won the match. But he was probably a single point away from going out there, just a couple of days ago.

Of course he may win the tournament, but equally, he may have another off-day or off-thirty-minutes at a crucial moment. The problem from a betting perspective is we just can never tell. I don't think I've ever placed a bet for or against him, he's too unpredictable.

yea well I bet against him yesterday, I had a +6.5 handicap on Krajinovic yesterday thinking
he would at least give Nick a right good game, nah, 2:6, 3:6 and 1:6. So yea way too unpredictible
from Nick.

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July 01, 2022, 03:17:26 PM
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So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

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