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August 24, 2022, 09:00:46 AM
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Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

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Nick Kyrgios is set for more courtroom drama after a Wimbledon fan he accused of having '700 drinks' revealed she is is suing the Australian tennis star.

Polish lawyer Anna Palus released a statement confirming legal action against the 27-year-old for his comments made during the Wimbledon final he lost against Novak Djokovic.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/nick-kyrgios-be-sued-wimbledon-tennis-fan-after-700-drinks-comment/tedbzrvxafiohbzyz2vqvq6w

For sure even if Nick will win this case, it will take a lot of toll from him and might not perform at peak continue in the US Open. Not sure about the case  if it has merit or not. So we shall see what happens next. When Nick was really doing good lately in the last couple of tournaments, this is going to bite him for sure.



I think the case has merit, the claimant is a lawyer so Nick could very well be in rough waters
with this one.

He has such a big mouth on court and it was only a matter of time before there were more
consequences from all his antics on court. Its one thing being a "showman" on court but
when he starts throwing accusations at people he really needs to consider the possible backlash.

I have warmed to him recently but I dont feel sorry for him regarding this.

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August 24, 2022, 11:16:31 AM
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^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

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^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nichts problem, I believe, is that he thinks it is somehow popular and the people like to see him freaking out. Or he really has mental issues. Otherwise he is just throwing away a world class career for the wrong reasons. It was fun to watch him rant a couple of times, but by now it's boring to me. It's just so predictable and he freaks out all the time. It is not really entertaining to watch him.

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August 24, 2022, 06:51:32 PM
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I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nichts problem, I believe, is that he thinks it is somehow popular and the people like to see him freaking out. Or he really has mental issues. Otherwise he is just throwing away a world class career for the wrong reasons. It was fun to watch him rant a couple of times, but by now it's boring to me. It's just so predictable and he freaks out all the time. It is not really entertaining to watch him.
I am also watching him for many years and mostly my feeling about him is he has really mental issues and just because of this mostly he has done things which we never expect from him now things could be changed for him because this case is surely going to have some impact on his form in US Open and if they will give him some serious punishment this can hurt him more but as we all know mostly these type cases settled out of court, so maybe we will have in this case as well because he can't afford things like this as his form is also good in last few weeks and doing much better than expectations.

Any big financial punch could be also can give him some better view about his future because he needs punishment like this for change of mentality in long run if he wants to play tennis for some more years.
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August 24, 2022, 08:00:29 PM
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In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Of course, but there are still players that go down in history forever. The probability is not very high that we will soon see a player who takes home 25 Grand Slam titles or even more. It Is not impossible, never, but is it likely? No. Look at Serena Williams, everyone was sure she is going to be the one and only record holder in GS titles and then her performances crashed. It is really, really hard to break those existing records and Nadal and Djokovic aren't done yet.

Nadal is a great example in this regard. Let me ask you: do you really think that it will ever be possible for someone to beat Nadal's French Open record? I mean, I myself just said never say never and nothing is impossible, but I must confess I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that someone is going to win the French Open 15 times (assuming that Nadal wins no more FO titles). That is just not humanly possible anymore (at least it seems impossible Cheesy ).

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August 24, 2022, 09:00:09 PM
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^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.
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August 24, 2022, 10:17:32 PM
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In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Of course, but there are still players that go down in history forever. The probability is not very high that we will soon see a player who takes home 25 Grand Slam titles or even more. It Is not impossible, never, but is it likely? No. Look at Serena Williams, everyone was sure she is going to be the one and only record holder in GS titles and then her performances crashed. It is really, really hard to break those existing records and Nadal and Djokovic aren't done yet.

Nadal is a great example in this regard. Let me ask you: do you really think that it will ever be possible for someone to beat Nadal's French Open record? I mean, I myself just said never say never and nothing is impossible, but I must confess I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that someone is going to win the French Open 15 times (assuming that Nadal wins no more FO titles). That is just not humanly possible anymore (at least it seems impossible Cheesy ).

I actually like the idea of titles being spread out between many brilliant players rather
than the sport being dominated by a handful of players including both mens and womens.
Of course its not great from a betting perspective, it would be harder to pick winners. I'm
not sure though that the game would suffer from it??

^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.


No I dont think so either, he really does need to tone down the verbal abuse though,
its just ugly.

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August 25, 2022, 03:17:44 AM
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Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

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Nick Kyrgios is set for more courtroom drama after a Wimbledon fan he accused of having '700 drinks' revealed she is is suing the Australian tennis star.

Polish lawyer Anna Palus released a statement confirming legal action against the 27-year-old for his comments made during the Wimbledon final he lost against Novak Djokovic.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/nick-kyrgios-be-sued-wimbledon-tennis-fan-after-700-drinks-comment/tedbzrvxafiohbzyz2vqvq6w

For sure even if Nick will win this case, it will take a lot of toll from him and might not perform at peak continue in the US Open. Not sure about the case  if it has merit or not. So we shall see what happens next. When Nick was really doing good lately in the last couple of tournaments, this is going to bite him for sure.



I think the case has merit, the claimant is a lawyer so Nick could very well be in rough waters
with this one.

Same thoughts, Nick could have chosen other fans in the crowd, unfortunately, he got the wrong individual because she is a lawyer and probably saw something that he can put Nick, whether money or jail time, something that she can get back at him.

He has such a big mouth on court and it was only a matter of time before there were more
consequences from all his antics on court. Its one thing being a "showman" on court but
when he starts throwing accusations at people he really needs to consider the possible backlash.

I have warmed to him recently but I dont feel sorry for him regarding this.

And this could be the biggest consequences of his career. I'm not sure if he is trying to be a showman or something, but he has done it since the beginning of his career.. The thing is, he can't back up all the talks and he could be fairly familiar with how some fans are really in the court.

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Tennis is way to protective for both players and supporters. Players stop playing when somebody stands from their seats or if mobile phone rings, you can't even talk during points and if supporter was yelling something during serve he immediately gets removed from crowd. I mean grow a thouger skin, just imagine some footballer standing at corner kick and not taking it while there is someone talking in the stadium. Hell he usually takes it quickly before objects start flying towards his head and you learn to enjoy insults from opponent supporters, they are picking on you because you are good.

On the other hand you have Osaka, grown woman that breaks apart when somebody yelled you suck. How protected childhood you must have to never encounter such language. My six years old doughter gets juicier insults from her peers and any youth playing some sport professionally hears much more thrown his way.

I don't like Kyrgios much but he is a bit of fresh air in oterwise very stale sport. Who wants to hear Nadal praising his opponent for good game after he destroyed him 6:1 6:1. Just seems a bit phony to me.

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Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

Probably the "lady" just wants to become famous.  Roll Eyes

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Djokovics officially announced that he will not be taking part in the 2022 US Open via his social media accounts,
https://mobile.twitter.com/DjokerNole/status/1562806952136085504
not a good news for his fans, but this was to be expected and shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

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Tennis is way to protective for both players and supporters. Players stop playing when somebody stands from their seats or if mobile phone rings, you can't even talk during points and if supporter was yelling something during serve he immediately gets removed from crowd. I mean grow a thouger skin, just imagine some footballer standing at corner kick and not taking it while there is someone talking in the stadium. Hell he usually takes it quickly before objects start flying towards his head and you learn to enjoy insults from opponent supporters, they are picking on you because you are good.

On the other hand you have Osaka, grown woman that breaks apart when somebody yelled you suck. How protected childhood you must have to never encounter such language. My six years old doughter gets juicier insults from her peers and any youth playing some sport professionally hears much more thrown his way.

I don't like Kyrgios much but he is a bit of fresh air in oterwise very stale sport. Who wants to hear Nadal praising his opponent for good game after he destroyed him 6:1 6:1. Just seems a bit phony to me.

I agree with a lot of what you say Trofo.
Kyrgios though cant be commentating on spectators the way he does. I dont mind the
giving out but getting personal is another thing.

Please lets not hope that tennis ends up the same as soccer, there is so much toxicity
both on the pitch and in the stands, nobody should have to deal with that.

As regards Osaka, its a tough one, Its very rare for someone to shout out abuse
like that, there was more to that I recon. And yea she and most players lead protected
youths that they probably cannot deal with some personal heckling. That person was still
in the wrong, its needless.

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August 25, 2022, 05:06:58 PM
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Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment
Probably the "lady" just wants to become famous.  Roll Eyes

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Angelique Kerber will not play at the US Open. The reason is that she is having a baby. The next tournament she wants to play are the Olympics in 2024 . I really hope she can manage the difficult balancing act between baby and sport. It will not be easy. The last German to do so is Tatjana Maria. She got her second child in April 2021 and reached the semifinal in Wimbledon this year.
Agree about this Lady wants to become famous. And Nick gives him a good opportunity for cashing out of this because he is famous in this field and done many things before this successfully as well.

Right now we have another sad news now officially announced Djokovic is not going to participate in US Open and also going to lose his 1200 points.
https://www.marca.com/en/tennis/us-open/2022/08/25/63079063e2704eb3358b459c.html

Now he is going to play Davis Cup for Serbia and their first match is against Spain.
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not a good news for his fans, but this was to be expected and shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

it is ironic that the news is that he actually withdrawn from the tournament, and basically cannot enter the country
not that I support his decision to not get vaccinated, and domestic rules should be respected, but the news could be that he is not allowed to play because he is not vaccinated, not that he withdrawn from tournament

nevertheless, without him and Zverev, odds are going down on Medvedev and Nadal to win the tournament
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I find it unimaginable that Djokovic continues to act so stubborn. And a lot of people also express support for Djokovic, which is the pinnacle. Just get vaccinated, you are a top athlete and in a sense you also just have an exemplary function. And if you don't want to be vaccinated, don't whine about not being allowed to participate in tournaments. Djokovic has become a spoiled and arrogant player who thinks he is above the law because he is the best tennis player in the world. Covid will never go away, so he can never play this tournament again with the US open. It's just what you want.

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I find it unimaginable that Djokovic continues to act so stubborn. And a lot of people also express support for Djokovic, which is the pinnacle. Just get vaccinated, you are a top athlete and in a sense you also just have an exemplary function. And if you don't want to be vaccinated, don't whine about not being allowed to participate in tournaments. Djokovic has become a spoiled and arrogant player who thinks he is above the law because he is the best tennis player in the world. Covid will never go away, so he can never play this tournament again with the US open. It's just what you want.
He's quite strong in his act. What I say is against law, but in my country more people had the fear and they didn't get vaccinated. Majority were with other illness which made them not to get vaccinated, but the government kept advising to vaccinate and these people opted to get certification without vaccination. Atleast Djokovic could've done that, and I don't know whether it is possible in his country.

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nevertheless, without him and Zverev, odds are going down on Medvedev and Nadal to win the tournament
I bet more for Medvedev to win the US Open again.
This is the draw for Daniil Medvedev in US Open https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/current/us-open/560/player-draw?playerId=MM58
If it goes well then in the semifinals Medevedev most likely face Tsitsipas, rivalry continues from both player

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Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.


Sorry to say, but she is just looking for attention in my eyes. Come on, it was not such a big insult also and everybody knows Kyrgios has a big mouth. I don't get it that he would get sued for these kind of comments. There has been a lot worse comments made in the past...



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August 26, 2022, 01:58:32 PM
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In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Of course, but there are still players that go down in history forever. The probability is not very high that we will soon see a player who takes home 25 Grand Slam titles or even more. It Is not impossible, never, but is it likely? No. Look at Serena Williams, everyone was sure she is going to be the one and only record holder in GS titles and then her performances crashed. It is really, really hard to break those existing records and Nadal and Djokovic aren't done yet.

Nadal is a great example in this regard. Let me ask you: do you really think that it will ever be possible for someone to beat Nadal's French Open record? I mean, I myself just said never say never and nothing is impossible, but I must confess I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that someone is going to win the French Open 15 times (assuming that Nadal wins no more FO titles). That is just not humanly possible anymore (at least it seems impossible Cheesy ).

I actually like the idea of titles being spread out between many brilliant players rather
than the sport being dominated by a handful of players including both mens and womens.
Of course its not great from a betting perspective, it would be harder to pick winners. I'm
not sure though that the game would suffer from it??

^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.


No I dont think so either, he really does need to tone down the verbal abuse though,
its just ugly.

Well, in tennis we could say that at least there was some competition among the top three Federer, Djokovic and Nadal even though that doesn't apply to the French Open specifically.

That fight between the three made tennis quite popular all around the world. But it shows that competition is so vital for any sport in order to be perceived as attractive by the public. If a sport is brutally dominated by just one player or team for too long, people get used to it and start following less (might not apply to the hardcore fans of course).

I believe that once the three retire, we will see a much more evenly competitive field afterwards.

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August 26, 2022, 09:01:42 PM
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^
Yes I think so too. Maybe the top 6 players could eventually be quite close and
players performing better on one surface more than others, it will just remain to be seen.

In terms of a sport being dominated by a very minority group of players I can give
the example in my own case of Forumla 1 and Michael Schumacher, it was great at
the start but a few seasons in and he is winning everything I switched off
and lost interest, there was no competition.

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