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December 03, 2020, 11:44:11 AM
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Just in: Washington Wizards John Wall and a first-round pick was traded to Rockets for Russell Westbrook. Seems a fine trade let's see what they gonna build this time for the Rockets after that worst trade we see last season.

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2020/12/2/22149403/russell-westbrook-john-wall-trade-rockets-wizards-nba-rumors-news-report
What!!!?
That's a bad trade in my opinion.
I don't know what the Wizards management is thinking about making this kind of decision.
Could they see the future that Wall might get injured again?  Grin So they'd rather take a non-prime WB than taking risk of another year of injury.
WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
For me, we ca identify if the trade is good or bad if the season already started, if john wall become healthy wherein he already not experiencing any injury then it is a good trade for Rockets because we all know that John wall is one of the best point guard because of his skills, athleticism and speed. There is also first round pick for the rockets and the Wizards only get one player which is westbrook. We all know that westbrook is a strong player but they do not have chemistry with harden and for me it is the reason why westbrook do not want to play again in rockets. 

In my opinion, the Rockets won the trade and will benefit from it in this upcoming season. as soon as we see Wall and Harden combination in the 2021 NBA season, we will see another playoff competitor teams and these two are really unstoppable on the court especially James Harden and now they also have John Wall.


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December 03, 2020, 11:58:20 AM
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Just in: Washington Wizards John Wall and a first-round pick was traded to Rockets for Russell Westbrook. Seems a fine trade let's see what they gonna build this time for the Rockets after that worst trade we see last season.

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2020/12/2/22149403/russell-westbrook-john-wall-trade-rockets-wizards-nba-rumors-news-report
What!!!?
That's a bad trade in my opinion.
I don't know what the Wizards management is thinking about making this kind of decision.
Could they see the future that Wall might get injured again?  Grin So they'd rather take a non-prime WB than taking risk of another year of injury.
WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
For me, we ca identify if the trade is good or bad if the season already started, if john wall become healthy wherein he already not experiencing any injury then it is a good trade for Rockets because we all know that John wall is one of the best point guard because of his skills, athleticism and speed. There is also first round pick for the rockets and the Wizards only get one player which is westbrook. We all know that westbrook is a strong player but they do not have chemistry with harden and for me it is the reason why westbrook do not want to play again in rockets. 

In my opinion, the Rockets won the trade and will benefit from it in this upcoming season. as soon as we see Wall and Harden combination in the 2021 NBA season, we will see another playoff competitor teams and these two are really unstoppable on the court especially James Harden and now they also have John Wall.



I believe this is like a CP3 and Harden duo, but Wall is better than CP3 IMO, so I guess both players will benefit from each other. CP3 should bring the ball here and act like a PG, don't let Harden bring the ball and just do a one on one, otherwise, Wall's talent will not be maximize.

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December 03, 2020, 12:00:01 PM
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Well yes, these two players are unstoppable but then they need more strong players if they wanted to win in championship league. If this is the only trade they will going to make still they could not beat the lakers with good players in that team. Lebron still be one of the difficult players to match with. This guy is already an epic or legend in playing basketball and never it happen that Lebron had had no show up in championship finals since they became champion when he was playing in Miami Team.
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December 03, 2020, 12:05:09 PM
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Well yes, these two players are unstoppable but then they need more strong players if they wanted to win in championship league. If this is the only trade they will going to make still they could not beat the lakers with good players in that team. Lebron still be one of the difficult players to match with. This guy is already an epic or legend in playing basketball and never it happen that Lebron had had no show up in championship finals since they became champion when he was playing in Miami Team.

What they need is a legit big man, they should stop playing small ball, Lakers will eat them alive, even the Nuggets will crush them.
In their line up, https://www.nba.com/rockets/roster

They only have 2 legit center, Chandler and Cousins, but hey! cousins could go down anytime, and Chandler is also not getting any younger.

They need to fill that big HOLE.

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December 03, 2020, 12:47:04 PM
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Well yes, these two players are unstoppable but then they need more strong players if they wanted to win in championship league. If this is the only trade they will going to make still they could not beat the lakers with good players in that team. Lebron still be one of the difficult players to match with. This guy is already an epic or legend in playing basketball and never it happen that Lebron had had no show up in championship finals since they became champion when he was playing in Miami Team.

What they need is a legit big man, they should stop playing small ball, Lakers will eat them alive, even the Nuggets will crush them.
In their line up, https://www.nba.com/rockets/roster

They only have 2 legit center, Chandler and Cousins, but hey! cousins could go down anytime, and Chandler is also not getting any younger.

They need to fill that big HOLE.

I couldn't agree more, they were doing good during the regular season with their small ball play but they were expose in the playoffs, most especially when they meet the Lakers where they only won 1 game, so I think not acquiring big man is a good solution, hopefully more big man will come on board in the team.

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December 03, 2020, 01:01:21 PM
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Its already been set and this games would really be interesting to watch knowing that those powerhouses will surely clash on Christmas Day!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30423809/nba-christmas-day-games-schedule-storylines-how-watch-stream-all-five-games
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/12/01/reported-nba-christmas-day-games-include-mavericks-at-lakers-celtics-at-nets/

Lakers VS Mavs would be the main highlight for this one as mentioned.
Nice thanks for those links.

It's no longer a rumor and we will see those matches on Christmas day. This is even greater than a bonus.



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December 03, 2020, 02:42:58 PM
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The Lakers fans got another good news, and one more player has a huge contract. Anthony Davis decided to stay with the Lakers, and he is going to sign a maximum contract with them today. So, he will earn $190 mln for five years.

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With regards to them being a playoff contender, with their current roster I don't think so unless WB and Beal will be a good duo like AD-LBJ that they can carry the team as a whole.
Westbrook never had an effective duo, when he paired with, they were almost perfect but in reality they don't really have a good chemistry, that's why Durant wants out of OKC because he believe with Westbrook they will never win a championship. We also see Westbrook and PG tandem, it doesn't work because westbrook had an awful shooting percentage and bad decision making, same with Harden Tandem, so I don't really expect here.

Westbrook is good if he is the one who will just score, but then what would it lead to the team?
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No disrespect to WB but I think that is how I will stretch it too.  Grin
He had never been a good partner and he ain't a wingman too. He's good, there's no doubt about that but there is always something lacking in him.
A good center or a forward maybe a good choice to mix with him. But another point guard? Argh. I don't know.

Yeah, let's just see where this will go when the game starts.
I hope there is a betting line on how bad decisions are with all these trades.
Like, if the Wizards will have a 0-20 record then I win.  Grin JK
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December 03, 2020, 03:53:59 PM
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I am not looking at wall-westbrook trade as good for one side or bad for another side, it makes no sense for me to at all, it is just a useless trade basically. Sure rockets "may" have taken the worse of the trade if wall is not as good as he used to be, this dude missed full 2 years of basketball, MJ took smaller break when he went and played baseball, just to remind you how long wall hasn't played.

However when he played, he was one of the fastest and he likes to pass so he could be actually a decent addition, or maybe he is worse and he won't be help at all. However westbrook is not that awesome neither, we saw that last year when they played. It means I could see this trade being nothing but useless, just exchange of bad assets at this point honestly.

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December 03, 2020, 04:20:36 PM
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With regards to them being a playoff contender, with their current roster I don't think so unless WB and Beal will be a good duo like AD-LBJ that they can carry the team as a whole.
Westbrook never had an effective duo, when he paired with, they were almost perfect but in reality they don't really have a good chemistry, that's why Durant wants out of OKC because he believe with Westbrook they will never win a championship. We also see Westbrook and PG tandem, it doesn't work because westbrook had an awful shooting percentage and bad decision making, same with Harden Tandem, so I don't really expect here.

Westbrook is good if he is the one who will just score, but then what would it lead to the team?
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No disrespect to WB but I think that is how I will stretch it too.  Grin
He had never been a good partner and he ain't a wingman too. He's good, there's no doubt about that but there is always something lacking in him.
A good center or a forward maybe a good choice to mix with him. But another point guard? Argh. I don't know.

Yeah, let's just see where this will go when the game starts.
I hope there is a betting line on how bad decisions are with all these trades.
Like, if the Wizards will have a 0-20 record then I win.  Grin JK

And I will bet with you too Grin I've got same observation when KD left OKC, knowing that they are performing well and they almost beat the warriors in the second round.  WB is just a scoring champion but not effective as a valuable teammate, he needs to adjust more if he wanted to win a title.

But from this trade, I see Rockets if they'll keep Haden they still have the advantage, Wall it's not the same as WB, he knows
how to pass the ball and work with his teammates, enough for Harden to keep his spot and do his usual routine.

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December 03, 2020, 05:23:09 PM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

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The Lakers fans got another good news, and one more player has a huge contract. Anthony Davis decided to stay with the Lakers, and he is going to sign a maximum contract with them today. So, he will earn $190 mln for five years.
Lakers can't loose him.

The tandem of Lebron and Davis is still on.

WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.
We'll never know unless we see them inside the court together. It may be the same as with Harden's and WB's play but it could also be different. We wait until they play together.



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December 03, 2020, 07:24:23 PM
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I am not looking at wall-westbrook trade as good for one side or bad for another side, it makes no sense for me to at all, it is just a useless trade basically. Sure rockets "may" have taken the worse of the trade if wall is not as good as he used to be, this dude missed full 2 years of basketball, MJ took smaller break when he went and played baseball, just to remind you how long wall hasn't played.

However when he played, he was one of the fastest and he likes to pass so he could be actually a decent addition, or maybe he is worse and he won't be help at all. However westbrook is not that awesome neither, we saw that last year when they played. It means I could see this trade being nothing but useless, just exchange of bad assets at this point honestly.

That 2 years off is a LONG time in professional sports.  He is going to take some time adjusting.  I think for both teams this trade was a gamble.  In the end the best part of the deal might be that first round pick if it ends up being a high lottery pick.  Washington is gambling that wall isn't going to be his old self and houston is take a stab at it, all the while have a #1 if it falls flat and he gets hurt again.  John wall always had promise but the dude can't stay on the court.

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December 03, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.
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December 03, 2020, 10:19:13 PM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.

We can't argue that both players are still on their superstar status now, both teams certainly sees it's an opportunity to get a new player to lead their team, that's why they agreed. If by record of the player they acquire, Washington has the advantage of that trade as they got a previous MVP who average a triple double during the time if I'm not mistaken, but Westbrook has been declining lately, but who knows he can get back to his old self playing with the Wizard.

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December 03, 2020, 10:25:46 PM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.

This is probably a good thing for Wall.  D'Antoni likes playing real fast up and down and wall will do that well (if healthy).  This might not be the last moves these teams make so it might be more clear as the season comes near.

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December 03, 2020, 10:31:26 PM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.

This is probably a good thing for Wall.  D'Antoni likes playing real fast up and down and wall will do that well (if healthy).  This might not be the last moves these teams make so it might be more clear as the season comes near.

I thought D'Antoni had already left the Rockets, so we can't expect the same style of play we've seen in the last season, it might not be a fast pace again, and a small type of play.

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December 04, 2020, 01:40:35 AM
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What!!!?
That's a bad trade in my opinion.
I don't know what the Wizards management is thinking about making this kind of decision.
Could they see the future that Wall might get injured again?  Grin So they'd rather take a non-prime WB than taking risk of another year of injury.
WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.

It's a good trade for Wizards since aside from John Wall suffers a serious injury and not playing for 2 years already, he asked the Wizards to trade him. If a player asks for a trade, should be grant immediately as no reason at all for that player to remain on that team. And as far as I know, it's only Rockets and Pistons that negotiate for a trade.

Wall and Beal tandem are sharing the role together, same for what will happen on Westbrook and Beal tandem so the adjustment would not be difficult for them.

But even Wall isn't traded, the Wizards team as a whole is still considered as a team in the bottom next season compared to other teams in the East.

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December 04, 2020, 03:49:18 AM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.

We can't argue that both players are still on their superstar status now, both teams certainly sees it's an opportunity to get a new player to lead their team, that's why they agreed. If by record of the player they acquire, Washington has the advantage of that trade as they got a previous MVP who average a triple double during the time if I'm not mistaken, but Westbrook has been declining lately, but who knows he can get back to his old self playing with the Wizard.

And this could be the last hurray for both of them, probably a good 2-3 years barring that no injury to Wall and Westbrook. So with a fresh new start, we might see a second wind to both of them 1st season and then after that we will see if they still got it to be on top of their game and still maintain that superstar status they have.

Win-win situation for both teams and players. And we might see Westbrook averaging triple triple again. And Wall averaging in the 20's ppg together with Harden.

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December 04, 2020, 04:49:27 AM
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Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.
With Wall out, it's Beal's team now and not WB.
He's a newcomer in the East and will look at him as a rookie again.
It's sad to see WB being passed on to different teams. He used to be a player that sticks in one team long term.
At 32 years old, he can still do so much, and yet he is being moved a lot being treated like he's already a veteran.

This is not really shocking news.
Anthony Davis signs new deal with Lakers
We all know he is signing back to the Lakers. We just don't know how much the contract will be.
So now its done.
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