2024 NBA Season

[wheelz1200]

Based on what everyone has seen in the Vegas league and preseason who does everyone have as the ROY?  I know cade and jalen green are getting the early nod but I think Evan mobley has a leg up.  He is gonna get a ton of minutes and as a true big man he is going to get the stats (rbs and paint points) to garner the ROY or at least have the opportunity.  My only hope is that he doesn't sit outside the paint.  Gonna put a little dough on him for roy.

No candidate for now. Not much hype and speculation about the early guess of who will be the possible contender for the Rookie of the Year unlike in the previous seasons that there's already a hot player on the discussion even the season is not officially commenced yet.

And I do agree, we should not judge them about the preseason games because it is just like for fun, nothing too serious about it. Their performance may change in this upcoming regular season, then, we may see what is the real deal here. But basing the preseason, is not really valid for me. Bookies are busy again with this season. A lot are looking forward to this season because of the pandemic last year.

What do you mean by based on the preseason, what's not valid for you?

Anyways, pre-season games are not for fun even there's a lack of competition. It's a testing phase, especially for bench players. If these players will not perform well in pre-season, coaches won't know if they are fit to blend with the main core lineup. That's the reason why starters mostly rest and let other players on the squad play those games.

Probably because cade hasn't had much time on the court due to a sprained ankle.  Jalen has looked a little inefficient when he is on the floor, but it is pre season.  He is on the floor with other guys who probably won't see much burn.  Knicks finally got quentin grimes off the bench this preseason.  Hoping he can make a good impact for 10-15 minutes a game, they definately need better guard play then they got last year in the playoffs.

[chaser15]

Steph Curry doing 40+ points in the pre-season game is dangerous. As everyone said, games are not played seriously in pre-season so just think what if he played seriously in that game. He comes back now to his usual shape which started last season where he carry alone the Warriors where he always produces good numbers even they are losing.

Draymond Green is the missing key for the Warriors. He should also come back at his best during the time they are dominating the league for years. Curry's big numbers are useless if there's no backup. We have seen that last season.

[dwyane36]

I believe that there is a good chance that they could end up with something that is literally the exactly the same thing. I mean sure we could have this team a lot better if they stay healthy but we could literally see the same exact thing this season as well, with older players end up getting injured constantly and that would be the horrible situation where they end up winning nothing. They are definitely a good team, but way too old, so injuries will definitely play into the result.

Of course, veterans are more prone to injury. However, I doubt that injuries will be the main problem for the Lakers this season, considering that many players had enough time to rest during the offseason. Anyway, the Lakers have a good bench, and coach Vogel will be able to find a replacement for Davis and James if they are injured again.

[Dave1]

Steph Curry doing 40+ points in the pre-season game is dangerous. As everyone said, games are not played seriously in pre-season so just think what if he played seriously in that game. He comes back now to his usual shape which started last season where he carry alone the Warriors where he always produces good numbers even they are losing.

Draymond Green is the missing key for the Warriors. He should also come back at his best during the time they are dominating the league for years. Curry's big numbers are useless if there's no backup. We have seen that last season.

Not unusual for Steph to score 40 points in pre-season or regular season. Remember that he was the scoring champion last year, averaging more than 30 ppg. So this is just a "natural' game for him.

But I agree that the teams will need to so step up their game, Green and others.

Just scary to see Curry + Klay Thompson again, scoring 30 points each.

[danherbias07]

If I understand you correctly, in this case of Dončić, that would be illegal, right?

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1443591620901761040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443591620901761040%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%7Ctwc

Yes, something like that. It's obviously an offensive foul for the offensive player is the one looking for the contact and the defensive player is trying to avoid it or just in vertical position. Usually shooters took advantage of that knowing you will take the bait of a fake. Again, it can be a "no call or an offensive foul.
We might witness a lot of technical fouls when this shooters starts to show a bad temper whenever the referee will not even call anything. 

Probably because cade hasn't had much time on the court due to a sprained ankle.  Jalen has looked a little inefficient when he is on the floor, but it is pre season.  He is on the floor with other guys who probably won't see much burn.  Knicks finally got quentin grimes off the bench this preseason.  Hoping he can make a good impact for 10-15 minutes a game, they definately need better guard play then they got last year in the playoffs.

I think what we should consider is whom will have the higher minutes to put numbers in the stat sheets.
Both Pistons and Rockets who have the number 1 and 2 pick need those rookies because of lack of main core players. Evan Mobley (3rd pick Cavs) may not get the minutes that he want because of Jarrett Allen as their main center.
Let's give them 10 games of the regular season then maybe we could analyze it while setting aside injuries.

[gagux123]

^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.

The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.

If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.

Yes, you're right, but this 12/13 Lakers team technically speaking, was an excellent team, as virtually all of the top players were AllStars.
But unfortunately that Lakers team didn't have an expected result.

So, pre-season is a "warm-up" as I said earlier and fans can't take it off like it's a regular season or playoffs. Does not make sense.

Look, if the Lakers team in this season is very well aligned and has a good chemistry between the players and especially without injuries, I even believe that this team was one of the best teams the Lakers ever had, of course behind Kareen & Magic Jhonson, Kobe & Shaq and also behind the 09/10 team.

Yes, something like that. It's obviously an offensive foul for the offensive player is the one looking for the contact and the defensive player is trying to avoid it or just in vertical position. Usually shooters took advantage of that knowing you will take the bait of a fake. Again, it can be a "no call or an offensive foul.
We might witness a lot of technical fouls when this shooters starts to show a bad temper whenever the referee will not even call anything. 

Hmm, thank you so much for the explanation @danherbias07
It was similar what I mentioned earlier. Well, I believe now in NBA there will be less staging and more plays lol

[btc_angela]

I believe that there is a good chance that they could end up with something that is literally the exactly the same thing. I mean sure we could have this team a lot better if they stay healthy but we could literally see the same exact thing this season as well, with older players end up getting injured constantly and that would be the horrible situation where they end up winning nothing. They are definitely a good team, but way too old, so injuries will definitely play into the result.

Of course, veterans are more prone to injury. However, I doubt that injuries will be the main problem for the Lakers this season, considering that many players had enough time to rest during the offseason. Anyway, the Lakers have a good bench, and coach Vogel will be able to find a replacement for Davis and James if they are injured again.

As compare to last season wherein Lakers have short amount of time resting, so yeah maybe most of them rested and then go to the gym to lift weight, and strengthen their body because they are not getting any younger and they need to prepared for another gruelling season. And we can only wish that they won't get injured so that we may see the full potential of this veterans and experience players.

[Jating]

^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.

The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.

If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.

Yes, you're right, but this 12/13 Lakers team technically speaking, was an excellent team, as virtually all of the top players were AllStars.
But unfortunately that Lakers team didn't have an expected result.

So, pre-season is a "warm-up" as I said earlier and fans can't take it off like it's a regular season or playoffs. Does not make sense.

Look, if the Lakers team in this season is very well aligned and has a good chemistry between the players and especially without injuries, I even believe that this team was one of the best teams the Lakers ever had, of course behind Kareen & Magic Jhonson, Kobe & Shaq and also behind the 09/10 team.

Yeah, but what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

[Viscore]

^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.

The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.

If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.

Yes, you're right, but this 12/13 Lakers team technically speaking, was an excellent team, as virtually all of the top players were AllStars.
But unfortunately that Lakers team didn't have an expected result.

So, pre-season is a "warm-up" as I said earlier and fans can't take it off like it's a regular season or playoffs. Does not make sense.

Look, if the Lakers team in this season is very well aligned and has a good chemistry between the players and especially without injuries, I even believe that this team was one of the best teams the Lakers ever had, of course behind Kareen & Magic Jhonson, Kobe & Shaq and also behind the 09/10 team.

Yeah, but what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

That's good, there should only be one Alpha in the team, and Lebron is not called a king for no reason, so he should lead the LA lakers like he always does when he joined the team. Westbrook will not win an MVP this season as his numbers will surely drop, but in the playoffs, he might have a chance if Lebron will allow him to do the play like his old way, and if it's effective.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.

The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.

If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.

Yes, you're right, but this 12/13 Lakers team technically speaking, was an excellent team, as virtually all of the top players were AllStars.
But unfortunately that Lakers team didn't have an expected result.

So, pre-season is a "warm-up" as I said earlier and fans can't take it off like it's a regular season or playoffs. Does not make sense.

Look, if the Lakers team in this season is very well aligned and has a good chemistry between the players and especially without injuries, I even believe that this team was one of the best teams the Lakers ever had, of course behind Kareen & Magic Jhonson, Kobe & Shaq and also behind the 09/10 team.

Yeah, but what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

That's good, there should only be one Alpha in the team, and Lebron is not called a king for no reason, so he should lead the LA lakers like he always does when he joined the team. Westbrook will not win an MVP this season as his numbers will surely drop, but in the playoffs, he might have a chance if Lebron will allow him to do the play like his old way, and if it's effective.

Lebron has been with great players and winning championship, with Miami, (Dwade and Bosh), and then with Cavs (Kyrie) and two seasons ago with the Lakers (Davis).

But one things for sure, with all those great players, Lebron is the King. He might give Westbrook time to shine, but when it is about who are going to make the last shot, Lebron will have the luxury of that. Winning shot for his team, not AD, not Russ and not Melo.

[Ziskinberg]

Lebron has been with great players and winning championship, with Miami, (Dwade and Bosh), and then with Cavs (Kyrie) and two seasons ago with the Lakers (Davis).

But one things for sure, with all those great players, Lebron is the King. He might give Westbrook time to shine, but when it is about who are going to make the last shot, Lebron will have the luxury of that. Winning shot for his team, not AD, not Russ and not Melo.

I don't anymore see that Lebron had a successful last shot, in the season where the Lakers won a championship, it was Davis who made the last shot and a game-winner (I know you guys still remember that). Lebron is great, no question about that, but he is not a clutch player like Kobe and Jordan, sorry to say but it's the reality.

[Pamadar]

Lebron has been with great players and winning championship, with Miami, (Dwade and Bosh), and then with Cavs (Kyrie) and two seasons ago with the Lakers (Davis).

But one things for sure, with all those great players, Lebron is the King. He might give Westbrook time to shine, but when it is about who are going to make the last shot, Lebron will have the luxury of that. Winning shot for his team, not AD, not Russ and not Melo.

I don't anymore see that Lebron had a successful last shot, in the season where the Lakers won a championship, it was Davis who made the last shot and a game-winner (I know you guys still remember that). Lebron is great, no question about that, but he is not a clutch player like Kobe and Jordan, sorry to say but it's the reality.

He always has that luxury as he's the main man, but knowing LeBron he's more on passing the ball than taking the shot.

Compared to Kobe and MJ, who will do everything to make the last shot and very brave to take full responsibilities in case they'll missed it,

With the Lakers current roster, LeBron might conserve his energy and let those new stars to play without any interference, as long as
all of them have the same goal, and that's to win the title. They still have this full regular season to deal with and prove that age is not a problem if players / team are determined to win.

[freedomgo]

Lebron has been with great players and winning championship, with Miami, (Dwade and Bosh), and then with Cavs (Kyrie) and two seasons ago with the Lakers (Davis).

But one things for sure, with all those great players, Lebron is the King. He might give Westbrook time to shine, but when it is about who are going to make the last shot, Lebron will have the luxury of that. Winning shot for his team, not AD, not Russ and not Melo.

I don't anymore see that Lebron had a successful last shot, in the season where the Lakers won a championship, it was Davis who made the last shot and a game-winner (I know you guys still remember that). Lebron is great, no question about that, but he is not a clutch player like Kobe and Jordan, sorry to say but it's the reality.

He always has that luxury as he's the main man, but knowing LeBron he's more on passing the ball than taking the shot.

Compared to Kobe and MJ, who will do everything to make the last shot and very brave to take full responsibilities in case they'll missed it,

With the Lakers current roster, LeBron might conserve his energy and let those new stars to play without any interference, as long as
all of them have the same goal, and that's to win the title. They still have this full regular season to deal with and prove that age is not a problem if players / team are determined to win.

He is not anymore the type of player who is chasing to have impressive stats, with his ball handling ability, he can just play as a PG and direct the play on the floor. Westbrook and Davis will just have to wait since the kick-out pass is possible if Lebron will drive the ball inside. Since Lebron is only now chasing the hall of fame record, he will not be so aggressive to prevent injury and he would be able to play more seasons.

[carlisle1]

He is not anymore the type of player who is chasing to have impressive stats, with his ball handling ability, he can just play as a PG and direct the play on the floor. Westbrook and Davis will just have to wait since the kick-out pass is possible if Lebron will drive the ball inside. Since Lebron is only now chasing the hall of fame record, he will not be so aggressive to prevent injury and he would be able to play more seasons.

Smart as a pro! the chance of seeing him playing with his son might happen,

Lakers are very supportive they are letting him to stay healthier, without any major injuries' and with the type of game he have now,

It's very possible to see him to continue playing, No need to carry the team the way he does when he still on his prime, now he have lots of options

and coach Vogel also have Rondo to back him up when it's needed, he can rest LeBron whenever he needed some air, let Rondo create plays for Davis

and Russ.

[CryptoBuds]

He is not anymore the type of player who is chasing to have impressive stats, with his ball handling ability, he can just play as a PG and direct the play on the floor. Westbrook and Davis will just have to wait since the kick-out pass is possible if Lebron will drive the ball inside. Since Lebron is only now chasing the hall of fame record, he will not be so aggressive to prevent injury and he would be able to play more seasons.

Smart as a pro! the chance of seeing him playing with his son might happen,
Lakers are very supportive they are letting him to stay healthier, without any major injuries' and with the type of game he have now,
It's very possible to see him to continue playing, No need to carry the team the way he does when he still on his prime, now he have lots of options
and coach Vogel also have Rondo to back him up when it's needed, he can rest LeBron whenever he needed some air, let Rondo create plays for Davis
and Russ.

^ Lebron might not have to carry his team almost alone like he had to do in his previous teams. Lakers are a stacked team with star players, so the pressure on Lebron is not that much for carrying them alone. Davis, Carmelo, Dwight all can play a part in this. And Lebron not having to work that hard like he had to do means that he will play longer in the NBA and he will get to please our eyes with more of his plays and I love that.

[OgNasty]

Lebron has been with great players and winning championship, with Miami, (Dwade and Bosh), and then with Cavs (Kyrie) and two seasons ago with the Lakers (Davis).

But one things for sure, with all those great players, Lebron is the King. He might give Westbrook time to shine, but when it is about who are going to make the last shot, Lebron will have the luxury of that. Winning shot for his team, not AD, not Russ and not Melo.

I don't anymore see that Lebron had a successful last shot, in the season where the Lakers won a championship, it was Davis who made the last shot and a game-winner (I know you guys still remember that). Lebron is great, no question about that, but he is not a clutch player like Kobe and Jordan, sorry to say but it's the reality.

I think it has more to do with style than clutch-ness. LeBron isn’t a finesse player, he’s a power player. In last second situations that isn’t what you want, so he demands attention and passes the ball to the open man like he’s supposed to. This play style is the same reason Giannis is easily shut down by good defensive teams while Durant does not.

[gagux123]

Yeah, but what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

Yes, absolutely, and I have no doubts about that!
LeBron is the best player to lead the team, we saw what he did in Miami and Cleveland.

Westbroook is an excellent player to cheer up his teammates and the crowd and give strength to the team, and Carmelo can also be something positive on the team, an experienced and skilled player.

[stadus]

Yeah, but what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

Yes, absolutely, and I have no doubts about that!
LeBron is the best player to lead the team, we saw what he did in Miami and Cleveland.

He was still younger that time, and in Cleveland, he was hungry to win for the first team he ever played in the NBA.
It's a different scenario now as Lebron is not getting any younger, so he needs some big support from his fellow NBA superstar whom he is playing with now, most particularly from Westbrook.

Westbroook is an excellent player to cheer up his teammates and the crowd and give strength to the team, and Carmelo can also be something positive on the team, an experienced and skilled player.

If there's chemistry, there would be no problem, Westbrook has to show that he is ready to accept his new role, not the role back in OKC and Washington.

[sana54210]

what I see in this season's line up, Lebron will still be the alpha of the team no matter what. Even if there is Westbrook or Carmelo, it will still be Lebron who will lead the team. And as we can see, Westbrook or Carmelo already acknowledge it in public.

As compare to the previous Lakers of 12/13, all of them wanted to be the alpha and that's the reason maybe the team crumbles and never make it to the finals even if they look solid on papers.

Nobody will be "alpha" in a team where Kobe plays, they knew it even back then and they know it now with Lebron. That team did not do well because of injuries, Nash was injured, Howard was injured, Kobe got injured, they were all injured and an aging Kobe had to play nearly all minutes by the end to bring that team any success which is why he was out.

Long story short the only thing that can keep this team from winning the chip is exactly the same as that team; injuries. If this team has a lot of injuries then I can see them losing bunch of games as well, and not win the ring, but if they are not injured then nobody will be able to stop them, not even Nets with Kyrie in it.

[Russlenat]

but if they are not injured then nobody will be able to stop them, not even Nets with Kyrie in it.

I doubt that at least that's not what the bookmakers believe as the NBA future betting odds are based on the chance of the team to win the championship.
As you can see in (https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/), Brooklyn Nets is the top favorite to win the title, that's considering the current status of the team and it did not change even Irving has some issue with his team that threatens to retire if he gets traded.