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September 16, 2021, 12:14:15 PM
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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card.  
Wow. He is really full of himself. I understand why he doesn't want the Nets to let him go, he want to prove himself first putting the Nets to a championship game so that his value will go up again. Because right now, if they let him go, his value will surely go down due to injuries and that bad playoffs event against the Bucks.
His agent is wise also saving his ass from losing a lot of money, use the retirement card because this means like a buyout, right? Correct me if I am wrong.
Smart move by Irving, but not too smart to help the team win a championship, with his attitude, there's no way he will win a championship again, and with this news, I think the NBA championship betting odds will change and will make the LA Lakers be the favorites to win the championships. I'm convince now that the Nets really has a problem and that is Irving, he just want to showcase his personal ability, not really a way to jive with the team to build a chemistry.



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September 16, 2021, 02:26:42 PM
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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card.  
Wow. He is really full of himself. I understand why he doesn't want the Nets to let him go, he want to prove himself first putting the Nets to a championship game so that his value will go up again. Because right now, if they let him go, his value will surely go down due to injuries and that bad playoffs event against the Bucks.
His agent is wise also saving his ass from losing a lot of money, use the retirement card because this means like a buyout, right? Correct me if I am wrong.
Smart move by Irving, but not too smart to help the team win a championship, with his attitude, there's no way he will win a championship again, and with this news, I think the NBA championship betting odds will change and will make the LA Lakers be the favorites to win the championships. I'm convince now that the Nets really has a problem and that is Irving, he just want to showcase his personal ability, not really a way to jive with the team to build a chemistry.
There's no more pride on the star players of the NBA, they were idolized by the fans with the way they play but they seem to become a toxic and try to play in a legal way just to seek more money. I know this is business, but being a star player, one should become a model and maintain his reputation until he retires.

Why would Irving talk about retirement?

He is only 29 years old and he still has more seasons to play, I would say he is still in his prime right now, the only problem is he gets easily injured.

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September 16, 2021, 03:03:28 PM
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Nets should just pull the trigger to end this quickly if they really want him out but it sounds stupid to let Irving go at this point when the league is about to start. They should know by now the importance of a deep roster since they were eliminated last season because of injuries.

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September 16, 2021, 03:15:40 PM
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I know this is business, but being a star player, one should become a model and maintain his reputation until he retires.
My first thought when OG shared it but just didn't write it.
Kids are looking up to them and one way to give back is being a role model for them. It's not mandatory but that's how stars should act if my memory serves me right.

A good read for the Chicago Bulls fans here.
Four reasons why revamped Bulls can make serious noise in East this season: Expectations rising in Windy City
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2. Ball fills a hole that hasn't been filled since D-Rose
3. Williams' development after strong rookie campaign
4. DeRozan + Vucevic + LaVine = tons of points
Their offense is now stretched with different options and they can really be a scary team in the East.
Who will handle them? Billy Donovan. The same guy who handled the OKC after losing great players and WB was the only one left. Somehow he still managed to bring OKC to the playoffs despite the losses.

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September 16, 2021, 03:48:08 PM
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Wow. He is really full of himself. I understand why he doesn't want the Nets to let him go, he want to prove himself first putting the Nets to a championship game so that his value will go up again.
As he knows that once he has been traded again and failed to help any team that will acquire him, his value will fall.

Not new to Kyrie. He's been known to be like that and this time it's the Nets who need to deal with him.

Because right now, if they let him go, his value will surely go down due to injuries and that bad playoffs event against the Bucks.

Right! That injury might be the question if trade happened, and he failed to help bring his new team to win a title.

His agent is wise also saving his ass from losing a lot of money, use the retirement card because this means like a buyout, right? Correct me if I am wrong.

Following you with that statement, if that's true since he still young he can just rest for a while then comeback and announce that he will going to play again. Banking the money and rest for some time. Cool idea!

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September 16, 2021, 04:40:02 PM
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Nets should just pull the trigger to end this quickly if they really want him out but it sounds stupid to let Irving go at this point when the league is about to start. They should know by now the importance of a deep roster since they were eliminated last season because of injuries.

And team chemistry as well. If they kept him on their roster, there could be some friction in the locker room or if Irving keeps going into the public with his issues with the management, maybe sooner or later someone will step up and tell Irving that he might take it negatively. So it's better for them to start the season not just healthy but have a positive attitude towards winning a champion because that is their main goal. No need for some distractions and drama around.
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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card.  
Wow. He is really full of himself. I understand why he doesn't want the Nets to let him go, he want to prove himself first putting the Nets to a championship game so that his value will go up again. Because right now, if they let him go, his value will surely go down due to injuries and that bad playoffs event against the Bucks.
His agent is wise also saving his ass from losing a lot of money, use the retirement card because this means like a buyout, right? Correct me if I am wrong.
Smart move by Irving, but not too smart to help the team win a championship, with his attitude, there's no way he will win a championship again, and with this news, I think the NBA championship betting odds will change and will make the LA Lakers be the favorites to win the championships. I'm convince now that the Nets really has a problem and that is Irving, he just want to showcase his personal ability, not really a way to jive with the team to build a chemistry.

There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself. I still remember Nash defending him, when being ask when is Kyrie going to play. And this childish act:

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Stepping on the Boston Celtics logo, Lol.

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September 16, 2021, 05:46:58 PM
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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card. 
Kyrie has always been a horrible person, not saying he is a bad basketball player, he is a good basketball player but he was always a weird one. Maybe we should be calling him that as his nickname? Instead of "the chosen one" we should make it like "the weird one", I can think of all the memes joking about him Cheesy.

I would say that there is a good chance we could see him ousted from the league very soon, if he can't deal with Nets and become a better locker room person and actually provide something to the team, then he is going to be bought out and fired basically, some other teams will give it a chance but he would be way too out of control after that and he would be ousted from the league even though he could still play. No way any team would get a good player if he has a horrible personality, Kyrie is not MJ or Kobe, he needs to be at least decent.

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There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself. I still remember Nash defending him, when being ask when is Kyrie going to play. And this childish act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8AlpFrM6Q

Stepping on the Boston Celtics logo, Lol.

I saw that particular game after they beat the Celtics, that's a big disrespect on the team that gives him a chance to play and lead the team. It's just that his attitude would never please a team and I think he doesn't like to play with other star players along as he wants the focus to be on him. Kyrie stepping on the Celtics logo is something, I read in the comments on the video clip you shared and it's hilarious because it's true.




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There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself. I still remember Nash defending him, when being ask when is Kyrie going to play. And this childish act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8AlpFrM6Q

Stepping on the Boston Celtics logo, Lol.

I saw that particular game after they beat the Celtics, that's a big disrespect on the team that gives him a chance to play and lead the team. It's just that his attitude would never please a team and I think he doesn't like to play with other star players along as he wants the focus to be on him. Kyrie stepping on the Celtics logo is something, I read in the comments on the video clip you shared and it's hilarious because it's true.





Lol! Anger management. . Kyrie seems to have that issue that's why he cannot appreciate the opportunity that he has. Back when he was still a rookie, he challenge Kobe in their game and he was playing Kobe one on one, and he was really good although he lost in that battle. I never thought he would grow like an entitled man, thinking that he is the best player in the NBA and he deserves what he wants.

I get it, he already won a championship, but that was because Lebron joined back the Cavaliers back then and he can never win a championship without a player better than him in the same team.

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Although Kyrie belongs to all stars of the NBA, it will harm his reputation if he gets traded from time to time, it only leaves one indication for those who understand, and that means he has an attitude problem that's why he would not fit in any team that values chemistry more than individual talents.

Good luck with his future, he is still young, he will get traded more unless he retires early, which is a bad idea as that's throwing money.

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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card.  
He is a great player we all know that but his ego and his attitude destroys his reputation in the NBA. His sudden decisions like this is the one that is harming his career.
Now he created another drama regarding trading and retirement shit. I might agree that he will get traded but retired? I don't think so Cheesy.

I don't know if his attitude like that will be changed but if he will get traded to another team again, good luck to them because they will get a player who decides like crazy Cheesy. A drama king. He is kind to other people though especially those in need Smiley.

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There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself.
It seems that Irving has a terrible temper if these rumors are true. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the Brooklyn Nets still have problems with mutual understanding on the court during next season, considering that Irving is more worried about his stats per game rather than team results.

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Nice to see that Kyrie Irving is still his same toxic self.  After a myriad of wild antics last year it seems the Nets have decided that they might want to move on from the diva guard.  In response to the Nets showing an interest in trading Kyrie, his agent has come out and said publicly that Kyrie will retire before playing with another team, seeming to tank his trade value and force the Nets to keep him on the roster.  Today Kyrie tweeted, My mask is off. Now take yours off. No fear.  He then clarified that this had nothing to do with Covid.  Assumingly, this is his response to the team's trade desire and him playing his "retirement" card.  
He is a great player we all know that but his ego and his attitude destroys his reputation in the NBA. His sudden decisions like this is the one that is harming his career.
Now he created another drama regarding trading and retirement shit. I might agree that he will get traded but retired? I don't think so Cheesy.

I don't know if his attitude like that will be changed but if he will get traded to another team again, good luck to them because they will get a player who decides like crazy Cheesy. A drama king. He is kind to other people though especially those in need Smiley.

Yes, he is a star player in NBA that's why he is egoistic, as much as we admire Irving inside the court, but this kind of attitude will alienate him from the rest of his team mates.

Not sure though if he can change for the better, I mean he is already solid with the Nets, good contract and good team mates and has a higher chance to win another ring. But he seems to be uncontrollable, that the management is willing to rid him off and traded.

Yes, he has a foundation, so he is a philanthropist, but Irving could have some issues inside.

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I would say that there is a good chance we could see him ousted from the league very soon, if he can't deal with Nets and become a better locker room person and actually provide something to the team, then he is going to be bought out and fired basically, some other teams will give it a chance but he would be way too out of control after that and he would be ousted from the league even though he could still play. No way any team would get a good player if he has a horrible personality, Kyrie is not MJ or Kobe, he needs to be at least decent.

Kyrie does really have an ego that can't handle by anybody, pride, and mostly self-decision without understanding the post-effects of what he did but that was a small reason just to be ousted from the league. Teams can trade him anytime, anywhere and the cycle just continues.

The league is getting good benefits from this Kyrie's drama as people will tend to follow that player especially every game. And Kyrie is no doubt one of the reasons why people came to watch live. His reputation is at stake but I see no way he will be kicked from the league.

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Yes, he has a foundation, so he is a philanthropist, but Irving could have some issues inside.
He has. And it's not a shortlist.
Last time he bombarded Lebron James with different bad claims in his podcast or KD's podcast if I remember correctly.
Then about the Nike shoe, then some behind the scenes even against his ex-team Boston Celtics.
I think he is not a healthy comrade and that is why he cannot become a franchise player. It's locker room issues that gets in the way and it may be players (teammates) that are asking to kick him out because of his attitude.
This ain't new anymore and he may become the first player to be signed on all NBA teams before he retires.  Grin
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Yes, he has a foundation, so he is a philanthropist, but Irving could have some issues inside.
He has. And it's not a shortlist.
Last time he bombarded Lebron James with different bad claims in his podcast or KD's podcast if I remember correctly.
Then about the Nike shoe, then some behind the scenes even against his ex-team Boston Celtics.
I think he is not a healthy comrade and that is why he cannot become a franchise player. It's locker room issues that gets in the way and it may be players (teammates) that are asking to kick him out because of his attitude.
This ain't new anymore and he may become the first player to be signed on all NBA teams before he retires.  Grin


That's one great example why the Nets should trade him, antics like that outside the court and then the Nike shoe comment. If it's not going to be healthy for his team mates, specially Durant and Harden then he should let go of him. Again, for me Durant + Harden could be enough to bring the Nets to the championship stage. They can't totally rely on Irving now, trade him for other good PG and then some players.

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There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself.
It seems that Irving has a terrible temper if these rumors are true. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the Brooklyn Nets still have problems with mutual understanding on the court during next season, considering that Irving is more worried about his stats per game rather than team results.

I've never really thought of him as a guy with a temper.  I think he's just extremely childish and vindictive.  In his mind he thinks he's the one that built the Nets by talking KD into joining him there and he doesn't want to be left out of the run for the Finals.  Do I think he'd really retire if traded?  No.  Maybe sit out a year and make someone call his bluff, but there's too much money on the table for him to walk away.  I don't think he's obsessed with his stats either.  That's more of a James Harden thing.  On the floor, Kyrie is great.  It's what he does outside of the lines that is a major distraction to his organization.

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September 17, 2021, 08:09:25 AM
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I've never really thought of him as a guy with a temper.  I think he's just extremely childish and vindictive.  In his mind he thinks he's the one that built the Nets by talking KD into joining him there and he doesn't want to be left out of the run for the Finals.  Do I think he'd really retire if traded?  No.  Maybe sit out a year and make someone call his bluff, but there's too much money on the table for him to walk away.  I don't think he's obsessed with his stats either.  That's more of a James Harden thing.  On the floor, Kyrie is great.  It's what he does outside of the lines that is a major distraction to his organization.
I strongly agree about Kyrie's greatness. He is one of the top players in the league and dangerous agility type pointguards with unpredictable moves.
It's a rare thing to happen in the league and we may not see another like him for a lot of years.
But the damage that he is doing whenever he leaves a team is something that is not easy to ignore. Upon arriving at Nets with KD he already thrown a lot of stone from his previous teams making them look bad at handling him. He may have the skill to boast but it's getting deep in his head.

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September 17, 2021, 09:07:14 AM
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That's one great example why the Nets should trade him, antics like that outside the court and then the Nike shoe comment. If it's not going to be healthy for his team mates, specially Durant and Harden then he should let go of him. Again, for me Durant + Harden could be enough to bring the Nets to the championship stage. They can't totally rely on Irving now, trade him for other good PG and then some players.

They can't just trade Kyrie Irving. He still has 2 years left in the contract that amounting to a decent value.

In the upcoming season, as per my research on the web, Irving will earn a base salary of $34,916,200 and an incentive bonus of $412,500. No teams will afford to risk that amount for Kyrie now.

The best thing to do for the Nets is, if they can still tolerate him, wait for next season as Irving will have his player option. It's good to decide coming from Irving itself that he won't play for the Nets.

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