2024 NBA Season

[Oasisman]

Although Kyrie belongs to all stars of the NBA, it will harm his reputation if he gets traded from time to time, it only leaves one indication for those who understand, and that means he has an attitude problem that's why he would not fit in any team that values chemistry more than individual talents.

Good luck with his future, he is still young, he will get traded more unless he retires early, which is a bad idea as that's throwing money.

He's a great player and one of the best point guard in the NBA, but his attitude would slowly kill his career.
He left Cleveland in bad terms, and left Boston also with bad terms, he always have problem towards his teammates. I don't know what is the real problem with his attitude. He seems very obsessed to lead a team and become a leader on and off the court.
He's a great player but he can't carry a team. He might not win another ring If he don't team up with another superstar.
Safe enough to say that he's not gonna be a good leader, and will never lead a team.

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[LogitechMouse]

Nets should just pull the trigger to end this quickly if they really want him out but it sounds stupid to let Irving go at this point when the league is about to start. They should know by now the importance of a deep roster since they were eliminated last season because of injuries.

The only problem with this team only is the injuries and probably the inexperienced coach. Now another problem has added and its Kyrie .
Letting Kyrie stay in the Nets might be a double edged sword for the team. Kyrie might still help the team if he wants to or on the other side, he will not play the way he wanted to be because he wants to get traded.

He is only 29 years old and he is at the middle of his prime. He can still play at least 8-9 years and yet he is saying about retirement. Maybe he is just saying it just to grab more attention but for sure he will not do it. He is still an all-star player but injuries limits him to be at his best. When he has an opportunity to win last season, he got injured and they eliminated. Now they got another opportunity and he is thinking about being traded. An egoistic player that isn't deserve to be in the NBA TBH. We know that he is an all-star but his attitudes?? We don't need attitudes like that in the league (at least for me).

[Questat]

Nets should just pull the trigger to end this quickly if they really want him out but it sounds stupid to let Irving go at this point when the league is about to start. They should know by now the importance of a deep roster since they were eliminated last season because of injuries.

The only problem with this team only is the injuries and probably the inexperienced coach. Now another problem has added and its Kyrie .
Letting Kyrie stay in the Nets might be a double edged sword for the team. Kyrie might still help the team if he wants to or on the other side, he will not play the way he wanted to be because he wants to get traded.

He is only 29 years old and he is at the middle of his prime. He can still play at least 8-9 years and yet he is saying about retirement. Maybe he is just saying it just to grab more attention but for sure he will not do it. He is still an all-star player but injuries limits him to be at his best. When he has an opportunity to win last season, he got injured and they eliminated. Now they got another opportunity and he is thinking about being traded. An egoistic player that isn't deserve to be in the NBA TBH. We know that he is an all-star but his attitudes?? We don't need attitudes like that in the league (at least for me).

Kyrie is undoubtedly good, if he was not injured during the ECF, the nets could have easily dominated the Bucks and play the Suns in the Finals, which I think will easily beat the Suns as the big 3 of the Nets is too much for the Suns' players. Irving probably have an attitude problem, the team has to discipline him and they should let him feel that it's not him who will be followed, it's always the management decision.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

There's a lot of rumors that Irving is really a big problem with the Nets management. Early this year, he broke a safety protocol implemented by the NBA, and then Kyrie become estrange with his team mates and his coach. And it seems that Kyrie is not a communicator, or at least not opening up with the management and his team itself. I still remember Nash defending him, when being ask when is Kyrie going to play. And this childish act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8AlpFrM6Q

Stepping on the Boston Celtics logo, Lol.

I saw that particular game after they beat the Celtics, that's a big disrespect on the team that gives him a chance to play and lead the team. It's just that his attitude would never please a team and I think he doesn't like to play with other star players along as he wants the focus to be on him. Kyrie stepping on the Celtics logo is something, I read in the comments on the video clip you shared and it's hilarious because it's true.

Lol, I didn't saw that, but somewhat it is true, Kyrie has some anger management to deal with.

Maybe there's already a drama in the locker room but it is kept secret by Nash and the team members. But I think he is a big part why Durant join the Nets because of Kyrie, if he is going to be traded then maybe Durant will opt too. So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.

[Botnake]

So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.

These two have different situations, Kyrie was disliked because of his attitude, but the way he played, he is really good. On the other hand, we have Simmons who is disliked by the management because he choked in the playoffs, Irving does not choke, Harden and Lebron even choke better. 

[Vaculin]

So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.

These two have different situations, Kyrie was disliked because of his attitude, but the way he played, he is really good. On the other hand, we have Simmons who is disliked by the management because he choked in the playoffs, Irving does not choke, Harden and Lebron even choke better. 

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/

I think Kyrie should just let this go if the two teams will agree on it.
The nets already have Durant and Harden which could score all night, and adding Simmons in the lineup will improve their defensive presence, the only problem I see is with the 76ers as I heard both Irving and Embiid doesn't have a good attitude being a teammate,

[stadus]

We know that he is an all-star but his attitudes?? We don't need attitudes like that in the league (at least for me).

It's done by voting, once you have good stats and you entered into voting, you might probably be chosen to be in the all-star game, this is what happen with Irving. Also, we can't blame people voting for him as the majority of the fans do not know news about the player's attitude or anything related to that which is not a big deal for most of us.

If the player plays well, he gets fans, that's how it works.

[Pamadar]

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/

I think Kyrie should just let this go if the two teams will agree on it.
The nets already have Durant and Harden which could score all night, and adding Simmons in the lineup will improve their defensive presence, the only problem I see is with the 76ers as I heard both Irving and Embiid doesn't have a good attitude being a teammate,

That's a big problem in case the process of trade between these two team proceed. But I doubt Sixers will gamble to that since Embiid is really important to them, they will try to convince Simmons to play one more season instead of having any problem with Embiid if Irving paired with him.

We know that he is an all-star but his attitudes?? We don't need attitudes like that in the league (at least for me).

It's done by voting, once you have good stats and you entered into voting, you might probably be chosen to be in the all-star game, this is what happen with Irving. Also, we can't blame people voting for him as the majority of the fans do not know news about the player's attitude or anything related to that which is not a big deal for most of us.

If the player plays well, he gets fans, that's how it works.

He sells his talent and there's no doubt that he really has it all and fans really love how he showcases everything.

In terms of attitude, fans don't have any deeper knowledge about that they only saw Irving played, and that's all they need to
Idolized him. Only those near him and the management who's paying him who really been affected by this attitude issues.

[sana54210]

So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.

These two have different situations, Kyrie was disliked because of his attitude, but the way he played, he is really good. On the other hand, we have Simmons who is disliked by the management because he choked in the playoffs, Irving does not choke, Harden and Lebron even choke better. 

Even irvings play has changed during this period, not that he became a bad player but he is not as good as he used to be and that plays into this situation as well. If this was the Irving from 5-10 years ago, during 2012 or so or 2013 to 2016-17 dude was a beast but nowadays I do not think that he is THAT good anymore. Don't get me wrong, his stats looks amazing when you check it on paper, but he doesn't play the team ball required to play with other 2 stars, like Durant learned that while he was playing at Warriors and now happy to share the ball if he has to, and happy to shoot whenever he needs to, and Harden has been one of the best passers in the league for a while and still score a lot.

Kyrie is not like that, not only he shoots more than he should in many occasions that he shouldn't, but also he changes the game style whenever he wants to and putting his teammates in a tough spot, his defense is getting worse as well.

[Minor Miner]

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/
I think Kyrie should just let this go if the two teams will agree on it.
The nets already have Durant and Harden which could score all night, and adding Simmons in the lineup will improve their defensive presence, the only problem I see is with the 76ers as I heard both Irving and Embiid doesn't have a good attitude being a teammate,

That's a big problem in case the process of trade between these two team proceed. But I doubt Sixers will gamble to that since Embiid is really important to them, they will try to convince Simmons to play one more season instead of having any problem with Embiid if Irving paired with him.

I think Kyrie just said that out of anger or frustration or might be just to seek some attention. He'll be just fine in my opinion.
Well at this point I just think nets are just kind of stacking their team. They have some prolific scorers as you said as Durant, Harden, and Simmons can obviously be really helpful on defense. But it would be interesting to see their chemistry. Speaking of chemistry, Irving and Embiid can cause a lot of serious problems on the court if they continue to behave like that. I mean the opposing coaches and players are not stupid. They will obviously try to take advantage of it.

[OgNasty]

That's one great example why the Nets should trade him, antics like that outside the court and then the Nike shoe comment. If it's not going to be healthy for his team mates, specially Durant and Harden then he should let go of him. Again, for me Durant + Harden could be enough to bring the Nets to the championship stage. They can't totally rely on Irving now, trade him for other good PG and then some players.

They can't just trade Kyrie Irving. He still has 2 years left in the contract that amounting to a decent value.

In the upcoming season, as per my research on the web, Irving will earn a base salary of $34,916,200 and an incentive bonus of $412,500. No teams will afford to risk that amount for Kyrie now.

The best thing to do for the Nets is, if they can still tolerate him, wait for next season as Irving will have his player option. It's good to decide coming from Irving itself that he won't play for the Nets.

The problem with that is if they let him play for them this year he will not only be a distraction, but he’s gonna leave anyway since there’s bad blood now. So they trade him now, or lose one of their top assets for nothing. I’d say fuck it and trade him if I owned the team. Let him retire. NBA owners need to stop letting these millionaires take advantage of them. Kyrie signed a deal without a trade clause. Teach him a lesson. It’s a business…

[Botnake]

That's one great example why the Nets should trade him, antics like that outside the court and then the Nike shoe comment. If it's not going to be healthy for his team mates, specially Durant and Harden then he should let go of him. Again, for me Durant + Harden could be enough to bring the Nets to the championship stage. They can't totally rely on Irving now, trade him for other good PG and then some players.

They can't just trade Kyrie Irving. He still has 2 years left in the contract that amounting to a decent value.

In the upcoming season, as per my research on the web, Irving will earn a base salary of $34,916,200 and an incentive bonus of $412,500. No teams will afford to risk that amount for Kyrie now.

The best thing to do for the Nets is, if they can still tolerate him, wait for next season as Irving will have his player option. It's good to decide coming from Irving itself that he won't play for the Nets.

The problem with that is if they let him play for them this year he will not only be a distraction, but he’s gonna leave anyway since there’s bad blood now. So they trade him now, or lose one of their top assets for nothing. I’d say fuck it and trade him if I owned the team. Let him retire. NBA owners need to stop letting these millionaires take advantage of them. Kyrie signed a deal without a trade clause. Teach him a lesson. It’s a business…

That's a hard lesson for Irving, and I think it's not likely to happen as business owners do take care of every single value they invest for a player to make the team better. But anyway, I still love to see that and I hope the owner has the balls to make such kind of action and accept the loss for the remaining years Irving will not play for the team.

[harizen]

That's a big problem in case the process of trade between these two team proceed. But I doubt Sixers will gamble to that since Embiid is really important to them, they will try to convince Simmons to play one more season instead of having any problem with Embiid if Irving paired with him.

I think that trade is not possible to happen. Irving will stay and play with the Nets for the next season. He is just creating drams like before.

Moving forward to Sixers, it's no secret plan already that Simmons will be traded in the future instead of Joel Embiid. Prior the start of Season 2020-21, Sixers made it clear (I'm sure I read it elsewhere and share it here) that it was the season we might see the final Simmons-Embiid duo.

Still no news for the future of Ben Simmons but I'm sure he will play at the different jersey next season.

[Jating]

So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.

These two have different situations, Kyrie was disliked because of his attitude, but the way he played, he is really good. On the other hand, we have Simmons who is disliked by the management because he choked in the playoffs, Irving does not choke, Harden and Lebron even choke better. 

Even irvings play has changed during this period, not that he became a bad player but he is not as good as he used to be and that plays into this situation as well. If this was the Irving from 5-10 years ago, during 2012 or so or 2013 to 2016-17 dude was a beast but nowadays I do not think that he is THAT good anymore. Don't get me wrong, his stats looks amazing when you check it on paper, but he doesn't play the team ball required to play with other 2 stars, like Durant learned that while he was playing at Warriors and now happy to share the ball if he has to, and happy to shoot whenever he needs to, and Harden has been one of the best passers in the league for a while and still score a lot.

Kyrie is not like that, not only he shoots more than he should in many occasions that he shouldn't, but also he changes the game style whenever he wants to and putting his teammates in a tough spot, his defense is getting worse as well.

When he move to the Celtics, he became the alpha of the team and take many shots and he thought that he can carry the team with the young Jason Tatum back them. But he got injured and then it was a different Irving, just playing iso one on one and try to score, and then there are times that he will take the play during crucial seconds and try to win the game for the team. So no team ball for him in the last 2 years and maybe that what frustrates him is that he can't score the way he wanted to.

[batang_bitcoin]

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/

He wants to stay with his current team and that's probably a real thing if he's traded. But can he do something with that if there's a bind with the contract that he has signed before? I don't think that he can just do whatever he wants as he needs to honor his contract and if it tells that the team can trade him and continue the contract with another team's contract, then he'll still play. It's possible that his contract will be bought for this trade by the team where he's going to be traded and there's nothing he can do with it but to bear with it.

[dwyane36]

Moving forward to Sixers, it's no secret plan already that Simmons will be traded in the future instead of Joel Embiid. Prior the start of Season 2020-21, Sixers made it clear (I'm sure I read it elsewhere and share it here) that it was the season we might see the final Simmons-Embiid duo.

Still no news for the future of Ben Simmons but I'm sure he will play at the different jersey next season.

It looks like the 76ers aren't satisfied with the offers they got for Simmons. Also, there are rumors that the 76ers expect him to play for them next season. It's funny because the 76ers aren't going to trade him for weak players, and other teams aren't going to offer their all-star players for Simmons.

[agustina2]

Moving forward to Sixers, it's no secret plan already that Simmons will be traded in the future instead of Joel Embiid. Prior the start of Season 2020-21, Sixers made it clear (I'm sure I read it elsewhere and share it here) that it was the season we might see the final Simmons-Embiid duo.

Still no news for the future of Ben Simmons but I'm sure he will play at the different jersey next season.

It looks like the 76ers aren't satisfied with the offers they got for Simmons. Also, there are rumors that the 76ers expect him to play for them next season. It's funny because the 76ers aren't going to trade him for weak players, and other teams aren't going to offer their all-star players for Simmons.

Weird. If that's the case then there's no team is interested in him? Or Sixers just needs a much bigger deal since that Simmons. That playoffs performance where Simmons got choked might impact and affect the decision of other teams. One thing, maybe teams aren't needed anymore a replacement for their current players so they are not joining the Simmons trade party.

Sixers need to think twice. Several potential first-round picks will do. It's not healthy anymore for Simmons to stay with the Sixers.

[Reid]

I think that trade is not possible to happen. Irving will stay and play with the Nets for the next season. He is just creating drams like before.

Moving forward to Sixers, it's no secret plan already that Simmons will be traded in the future instead of Joel Embiid. Prior the start of Season 2020-21, Sixers made it clear (I'm sure I read it elsewhere and share it here) that it was the season we might see the final Simmons-Embiid duo.

Still no news for the future of Ben Simmons but I'm sure he will play at the different jersey next season.

This season or next season? How can he play now if he won't even answer 76ers management and players' calls?
The kid is being hard-headed to be traded to the extent of even paying up millions of dollars missing the training camp.
Something bad is going on inside their management and they cannot control Ben anymore. GM won't jeopardize the team's chance for a championship just because of that. 30+ million in salary cap is a large amount and they could find help from a good player with that.

I found one rumor that 76ers would rather take Rubio for Ben than Kevin Love if ever they will trade with the Cavs.

[TravelMug]

I think that trade is not possible to happen. Irving will stay and play with the Nets for the next season. He is just creating drams like before.

Moving forward to Sixers, it's no secret plan already that Simmons will be traded in the future instead of Joel Embiid. Prior the start of Season 2020-21, Sixers made it clear (I'm sure I read it elsewhere and share it here) that it was the season we might see the final Simmons-Embiid duo.

Still no news for the future of Ben Simmons but I'm sure he will play at the different jersey next season.

This season or next season? How can he play now if he won't even answer 76ers management and players' calls?
The kid is being hard-headed to be traded to the extent of even paying up millions of dollars missing the training camp.
Something bad is going on inside their management and they cannot control Ben anymore. GM won't jeopardize the team's chance for a championship just because of that. 30+ million in salary cap is a large amount and they could find help from a good player with that.

I found one rumor that 76ers would rather take Rubio for Ben than Kevin Love if ever they will trade with the Cavs.

That's good trade in my opinion, we all know that Sixers lacks a play maker, or needed someone that can distribute the ball, need not to score more as Joel can do that, although Rubio has some games wherein he can really be dominant and score more points + his assist and overall basketball IQ. But still, the decision is on the Sixers management, if they really wanted to trade Ben or play with him next season and then have some negative impact on the team.

[LGD2Business]

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/

I don't think he will really retire at age 29, he just gave an ultimatum to not get traded. That's fair enough, you can't push players out of the team easily. I understand from Kyrie's response this is not the case though. I don't see him in Sixers jersey, this trade chance is so slim. Actually he also said in 2018 that he doesn't plan a long career. I still don't think he would retire in less than 3 years though.