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January 21, 2022, 12:31:53 AM
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It might happen though, I read from articles that Vogel is being treated on a game to game basis. So against the Jazz, he got lucky and escape with a win.

But not against a tough team in the Pacers, heck they even had a good lead but was not able to sustain it because Pacers are hitting their outside shots. So maybe another lost by them will mean that Vogel's stint as a Lakers coach is over.
Either they need to have a good trade, or they just need to fire Vogel. I know that he won them a championship and that is why he had some credit but after last season being so bad and this season going so bad, I do not think that he should be kept forever.

Yes, he won a championship, does that mean he should stay here for 30+ years? Obviously if he keeps going eventually he would be fired, isn't this enough time to realize he is not enough? I am not even joking, Lebron as a Player/Coach would be better. He is already calling his own shots, and I do not think that he would be worse than most of the coaches in the NBA, would be very difficult to handle both at the same time but if anyone can, then he can.

Firing Vogel literally does nothing since all these guys are old vets anyway.  They compiled one of the leagues oldest team, and that never works.  What they need is a trade or let some of the younger ayers play.  And they need AD back.  Vogel is basically a puppet Bron is running the show when he is on the court anyway.

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January 21, 2022, 02:38:14 AM
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Firing Vogel literally does nothing since all these guys are old vets anyway.  They compiled one of the leagues oldest team, and that never works.  What they need is a trade or let some of the younger ayers play.  And they need AD back.  Vogel is basically a puppet Bron is running the show when he is on the court anyway.

You're right. It makes no sense for the Lakers to fire the coach in the middle of the season. As for Anthony Davis, he will most likely return to the court within the next two weeks. There is no doubt that the team's results may be better after his return, but the problem is that the Lakers cannot rely on him because he is too prone to injury.


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January 21, 2022, 04:20:01 AM
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It might happen though, I read from articles that Vogel is being treated on a game to game basis. So against the Jazz, he got lucky and escape with a win.

But not against a tough team in the Pacers, heck they even had a good lead but was not able to sustain it because Pacers are hitting their outside shots. So maybe another lost by them will mean that Vogel's stint as a Lakers coach is over.
Either they need to have a good trade, or they just need to fire Vogel. I know that he won them a championship and that is why he had some credit but after last season being so bad and this season going so bad, I do not think that he should be kept forever.

Yes, he won a championship, does that mean he should stay here for 30+ years? Obviously if he keeps going eventually he would be fired, isn't this enough time to realize he is not enough? I am not even joking, Lebron as a Player/Coach would be better. He is already calling his own shots, and I do not think that he would be worse than most of the coaches in the NBA, would be very difficult to handle both at the same time but if anyone can, then he can.

Firing Vogel literally does nothing since all these guys are old vets anyway.  They compiled one of the leagues oldest team, and that never works.  What they need is a trade or let some of the younger ayers play.  And they need AD back.  Vogel is basically a puppet Bron is running the show when he is on the court anyway.

But will the Lakers keep their coach if they are in a losing streak despite all the veterans they have in the line up? They are allowing younger guys to play, THT has been getting playing time, Russ was bench in the 4th. At the end of the day, the coach has a big responsibility and that is what the Lakers management is looking at this time. Although it is sad if ever they fire Vogel because like 2 or 3 seasons ago, he give them their championship.

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January 21, 2022, 05:17:53 AM
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Let's talk about the Warriors vs Pacers game, Indiana is hanging on the game and it seems the Warriors can't really get out and explode and take at least a double digit lead.

Curry though started hot in the fourth quarter and they are in for just a 3 point lead.

6 minutes to go in the game, let's see if Warriors can win and still have the best home court record in the NBA.

Edit: The game went into OT.

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January 21, 2022, 06:12:26 AM
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^Indiana Pacers won the game! That was unexpected. They are undermanned without Sabonis, LeVert, Brogdon, and Turner. All names that played are unknown which are mostly 3rd stringers that only play during garbage time. Wow! Somehow they got thru it, keep the game close and even win it.
Warriors on the other hand have something to talk about. Turnovers. 21 of it and most of it cannot be missed while watching the game.
I think that's the reason why Steve Kerr was furious during the 4th quarter before Curry made all the 6 points at the end of the regulation. They could've won it there if JTA fouled the big man before passing to Holiday for a 3 point that tied for overtime.

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January 21, 2022, 09:38:31 AM
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But will the Lakers keep their coach if they are in a losing streak despite all the veterans they have in the line up? They are allowing younger guys to play, THT has been getting playing time, Russ was bench in the 4th. At the end of the day, the coach has a big responsibility and that is what the Lakers management is looking at this time. Although it is sad if ever they fire Vogel because like 2 or 3 seasons ago, he give them their championship.


Sad but there's nothing he can do about that in case Lakers management decide to let him go, yes he brings them a title but it's a business

and knowing the changing paces that surround this league, he already knows what are the possibilities in case he can no longer perform what

the management is expecting from him.

We don't know what will be the fate of coach Vogel or the fate of those rumors players that will be in the trading talks.

We can only wait till there's final announcement about the changes that Lakers will do before the deadline.
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January 21, 2022, 10:08:29 AM
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Indiana Pacers have been on a really great run in the recent times. They played two really tough away games consecutively and managed to win both of them. First, they defeated Lakers and last night they managed to defeat Warriors by 121-117. Curry played really superbly this time and did everything he could to carry his team to a victory. He got 39 points but still couldn't help for a win. Because the rest of the players were too ineffective. Thompson is still recovering now.

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January 21, 2022, 10:22:11 AM
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Indiana Pacers have been on a really great run in the recent times. They played two really tough away games consecutively and managed to win both of them. First, they defeated Lakers and last night they managed to defeat Warriors by 121-117. Curry played really superbly this time and did everything he could to carry his team to a victory. He got 39 points but still couldn't help for a win. Because the rest of the players were too ineffective. Thompson is still recovering now.
Well, I thought that they are going to win the game because they have a 3 point lead, with less than 10 seconds to go. But Holiday drain a 3 in the corner to tie the score and they failed on the next possession. And in the overtime, they've missed a lot of shots that could have made them the winner in this game. Congrats to Pacers, back to back win, it's tough but still they got the W and it's huge.

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January 21, 2022, 10:33:15 AM
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Indiana Pacers have been on a really great run in the recent times. They played two really tough away games consecutively and managed to win both of them. First, they defeated Lakers and last night they managed to defeat Warriors by 121-117. Curry played really superbly this time and did everything he could to carry his team to a victory. He got 39 points but still couldn't help for a win. Because the rest of the players were too ineffective. Thompson is still recovering now.
Well, I thought that they are going to win the game because they have a 3 point lead, with less than 10 seconds to go. But Holiday drain a 3 in the corner to tie the score and they failed on the next possession. And in the overtime, they've missed a lot of shots that could have made them the winner in this game. Congrats to Pacers, back to back win, it's tough but still they got the W and it's huge.

Really amazes me how the Pacers steal this one for the Warriors. From the beginning, you can see that it will be really close as the Warriors didn't take a good lead in this game. And it compounded them with the way they shoot, it was really horrendous that Curry was the only one hitting 3's for the first 3 quarters. And Poole and Wiggins and JTA can't produce enough score to help the team. Klay played too but he wasn't a factor as well. It was just Curry who carry the team but it was not enough. And what a game from Duarte, this rookie is for real, hitting tough shots with good body control.

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Indiana Pacers have been on a really great run in the recent times. They played two really tough away games consecutively and managed to win both of them. First, they defeated Lakers and last night they managed to defeat Warriors by 121-117. Curry played really superbly this time and did everything he could to carry his team to a victory. He got 39 points but still couldn't help for a win. Because the rest of the players were too ineffective. Thompson is still recovering now.
Well, I thought that they are going to win the game because they have a 3 point lead, with less than 10 seconds to go. But Holiday drain a 3 in the corner to tie the score and they failed on the next possession. And in the overtime, they've missed a lot of shots that could have made them the winner in this game. Congrats to Pacers, back to back win, it's tough but still they got the W and it's huge.

Really amazes me how the Pacers steal this one for the Warriors. From the beginning, you can see that it will be really close as the Warriors didn't take a good lead in this game. And it compounded them with the way they shoot, it was really horrendous that Curry was the only one hitting 3's for the first 3 quarters. And Poole and Wiggins and JTA can't produce enough score to help the team. Klay played too but he wasn't a factor as well. It was just Curry who carry the team but it was not enough. And what a game from Duarte, this rookie is for real, hitting tough shots with good body control.

The other 3 point shooters are not hitting their shots, most especially for Poole who only made 1 of 7 attempts. What happen to this guy? He was suppose to be a big supporter for Curry in terms of production, but he struggle in this game which results for the Lakers to lose.

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Indiana Pacers have been on a really great run in the recent times. They played two really tough away games consecutively and managed to win both of them. First, they defeated Lakers and last night they managed to defeat Warriors by 121-117. Curry played really superbly this time and did everything he could to carry his team to a victory. He got 39 points but still couldn't help for a win. Because the rest of the players were too ineffective. Thompson is still recovering now.
Well, I thought that they are going to win the game because they have a 3 point lead, with less than 10 seconds to go. But Holiday drain a 3 in the corner to tie the score and they failed on the next possession. And in the overtime, they've missed a lot of shots that could have made them the winner in this game. Congrats to Pacers, back to back win, it's tough but still they got the W and it's huge.

Really amazes me how the Pacers steal this one for the Warriors. From the beginning, you can see that it will be really close as the Warriors didn't take a good lead in this game. And it compounded them with the way they shoot, it was really horrendous that Curry was the only one hitting 3's for the first 3 quarters. And Poole and Wiggins and JTA can't produce enough score to help the team. Klay played too but he wasn't a factor as well. It was just Curry who carry the team but it was not enough. And what a game from Duarte, this rookie is for real, hitting tough shots with good body control.

The other 3 point shooters are not hitting their shots, most especially for Poole who only made 1 of 7 attempts. What happen to this guy? He was suppose to be a big supporter for Curry in terms of production, but he struggle in this game which results for the Lakers to lose.

I'm wondering on when does Jordan Poole and Curry doing on Lakers  Cheesy Just kidding for sure its a type since for sure you mean Warriors with that maybe you always think about Lakers since there are so many dramas happening on that team recently. But anyways bad days always struck so we cannot expect for a player to produce good quality numbers on every game maybe at that game Poole is having a bad day so that's the result. For sure they do better knowing how competitive the Warrior line up this season.

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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.

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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.
It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.
It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

Agree about there issue is much lighter to Lakers. But compared to Lakers, There roster will not gonna last much longer if they manage to enter the payoffs compared to Lakers that has a firepower to become a champion by there current roster, there only problem is just they are over extending and adjusting too much since most of there roster is a previous star and has pride. Maybe loading off some extra baggage will gonna help them to bring back to life.

So sad to see that LeBron strategy to gather strong player is already back firing on his face.

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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.
It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

Agree about there issue is much lighter to Lakers. But compared to Lakers, There roster will not gonna last much longer if they manage to enter the payoffs compared to Lakers that has a firepower to become a champion by there current roster, there only problem is just they are over extending and adjusting too much since most of there roster is a previous star and has pride. Maybe loading off some extra baggage will gonna help them to bring back to life.

So sad to see that LeBron strategy to gather strong player is already back firing on his face.

Lebron will likely fail this season, there's no chance that the Lakers will be a championship team as they are still haven't figured out the right chemistry so everyone could contribute effectively. They are just hype because they form a super team, popular names are in their team but they are not in synch every time they play, well, maybe there are some games they are impressive but in most games they disappointed the fans.
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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.
It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

Agree about there issue is much lighter to Lakers. But compared to Lakers, There roster will not gonna last much longer if they manage to enter the payoffs compared to Lakers that has a firepower to become a champion by there current roster, there only problem is just they are over extending and adjusting too much since most of there roster is a previous star and has pride. Maybe loading off some extra baggage will gonna help them to bring back to life.

So sad to see that LeBron strategy to gather strong player is already back firing on his face.

Lebron will likely fail this season, there's no chance that the Lakers will be a championship team as they are still haven't figured out the right chemistry so everyone could contribute effectively. They are just hype because they form a super team, popular names are in their team but they are not in synch every time they play, well, maybe there are some games they are impressive but in most games they disappointed the fans.
We are at the halfway through the season already and they are having a hard time getting their wins. Its like they will win one and then lose one.

Right now they are below 500 again with 22-23. TBH, I don't know why the GM of Lakers built this kind of roster. A roster full of old players and most of them are past their prime already like Howard, Melo, Ariza and most of them are already average players that can't be reliable on. Ohhh wait also add Anthony Davis who is injury prone and isn't playing for how many games already. They are paying him that much and in the end he will get injured. He is a great defender and his absence really affects the team as a whole. Like you, I don't also think that they will be at the top this playoffs or worse I don't even think that they will enter the playoffs with how they are playing and if they will enter the playoffs this season most likely they will get eliminated at the first round like what happened last season to them.

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Pacers are really good lately and they got two important back-to-back wins. They even defeated Warriors away which is a big achievement for them. But I don't think that they will maintain a long-lasting winning streak. They are having a terrible season in general and it could continue like that. But they still have a chance for the playoff of course. If they somehow manage to qualify for it, even it would be an achievement for them I think.
It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

Agree about there issue is much lighter to Lakers. But compared to Lakers, There roster will not gonna last much longer if they manage to enter the payoffs compared to Lakers that has a firepower to become a champion by there current roster, there only problem is just they are over extending and adjusting too much since most of there roster is a previous star and has pride. Maybe loading off some extra baggage will gonna help them to bring back to life.

So sad to see that LeBron strategy to gather strong player is already back firing on his face.

Lebron will likely fail this season, there's no chance that the Lakers will be a championship team as they are still haven't figured out the right chemistry so everyone could contribute effectively. They are just hype because they form a super team, popular names are in their team but they are not in synch every time they play, well, maybe there are some games they are impressive but in most games they disappointed the fans.
We are at the halfway through the season already and they are having a hard time getting their wins. Its like they will win one and then lose one.

Right now they are below 500 again with 22-23. TBH, I don't know why the GM of Lakers built this kind of roster. A roster full of old players and most of them are past their prime already like Howard, Melo, Ariza and most of them are already average players that can't be reliable on. Ohhh wait also add Anthony Davis who is injury prone and isn't playing for how many games already. They are paying him that much and in the end he will get injured. He is a great defender and his absence really affects the team as a whole. Like you, I don't also think that they will be at the top this playoffs or worse I don't even think that they will enter the playoffs with how they are playing and if they will enter the playoffs this season most likely they will get eliminated at the first round like what happened last season to them.

Even though they are old but maybe the experience of those players are the one who's been looking for by the management but sadly they didn't click well and chemistry is their huge problem right now. Also Russ cannot perform well since there's a lot of stress on his shoulder knowing he became a scape goat of the team and blame him once they lose. So I think maybe next season they should cut this line up and find players which can fit on the system they build also they should change their coach since maybe they also have problem on that side.

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It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

I saw the game earlier and the Warriors cannot penetrate to score an easy basket in the OT last night which lead them to lose this one versus the Pacers. It was a close game in the 4th quarter and it seems like the GSW winning the game in the opening minutes of the OT but the Pacers are quick to get back the lead and finally close the game by winning by 4 points. This is the first time the Pacers won 2 in a row in the road game and they are doing good without Sabonis.
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It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

I saw the game earlier and the Warriors cannot penetrate to score an easy basket in the OT last night which lead them to lose this one versus the Pacers. It was a close game in the 4th quarter and it seems like the GSW winning the game in the opening minutes of the OT but the Pacers are quick to get back the lead and finally close the game by winning by 4 points. This is the first time the Pacers won 2 in a row in the road game and they are doing good without Sabonis.

Not a typical Warriors, they used to be good in the 4th quarter and especially in the OT, but this time they lose against the Pacers. Curry with some impressive performance but they are not playing well as a team as other players are struggling on their offence.
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It's not too late for them to come back and be in the playoff spot again. Pacers are a good defensive team, they are a good team in general but sometimes they struggle, I think they are better than what the Lakers are experiencing right now, they are improving while the Lakers aren't.

I saw the game earlier and the Warriors cannot penetrate to score an easy basket in the OT last night which lead them to lose this one versus the Pacers. It was a close game in the 4th quarter and it seems like the GSW winning the game in the opening minutes of the OT but the Pacers are quick to get back the lead and finally close the game by winning by 4 points. This is the first time the Pacers won 2 in a row in the road game and they are doing good without Sabonis.

Not a typical Warriors, they used to be good in the 4th quarter and especially in the OT, but this time they lose against the Pacers. Curry with some impressive performance but they are not playing well as a team as other players are struggling on their offence.
Turnover had been the key factor of the game. It was a close game because the Warriors are doing great on the defensive end, I think they forced Indiana Pacers with 3 times of shotclock violation, then Payton II doing what he is good at. But, whenever they have the ball they turn it over so quick that the Pacers don't even need to put so much effort to steal it. They forgot to take care of the ball and even Steph Curry was mad about it, what more with Steve Kerr. It's okay to rotate the ball but they exaggerated it.
Thumbs up to the Pacers for keeping up even while short handed.
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