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August 16, 2022, 03:47:08 PM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
More like big 3 headaches for the organization to me Seriously, if these 3 get their acts together, they are nightmares to their opponents. Fortunately for other teams, they are full of dramas. Indeed that's true. 3 players who could play the guard position. 2 of them can play the forward with a good shot blocking capability. 2 of them are one of the top in average steals. Simmons just went further down because he didn't play last season but Kyrie is still on the top 6. But we all saw how good Simmons at pickpockets. All they need are active roleplayers that are not prone to injuries. They have Seth and Nic and those two will be a headache to any opponent they will be facing. I don't think they realize that yet. I mean the trio.
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August 16, 2022, 04:05:38 PM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
The Nets have the big trio only on paper. So it seems to me the Nets' chances of reaching the finals next season will probably be close to zero because, as you said, they might have some problems with team chemistry. Moreover, Durant and Irving are the kind of players who care more about individual achievement than team results, while Simmons looks like he has no motivation at all. Let's compare Ben Simmons to Klay Thompson because both players missed a lot of games for one reason or another. As I see it, the big difference between these two players is that Thompson had a lot of enthusiasm and desire to get back on the court as soon as possible, and we could notice that in his interviews. At the same time, Simmons doesn't seem to have any enthusiasm about coming back at all. So I'd say the Nets have "the big duo and a half" now, not the big trio.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE00RhFG.png&t=665&c=hc7oob3lYCEoHQ) A lot of basketball fans around the world reacted to this photo wherein Brooklyn superstar KD played with Boston's main man Jayson Tatum. It seems that there is still a secret ongoing trade deal and maybe they are testing the 2 superstars' chemistry. Jaylen Brown fans aren't happy seeing this. But for me, a Brown believer ever since, I don't care if he will be traded in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is a rich team and if Jaylen will play there then there is a big possibility that he will become their main guy unlike in Boston. Kyrie is not young anymore with an attitude and bad shooter Ben Simmons got an attitude too.
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I had a chance to watch the Lakers docuseries on Hulu last night and it was very interesting in comparison to HBO’s Winning Time. HBO’s is more entertaining hands down. It’s entire first season was covered in the first episode of the Hulu series. Hulu’s used all real footage though, so it was cool seeing the real people the actors were playing. I love seeing how it played out in real life as opposed to the HBO series and I can’t wait to see more of both.
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
More like big 3 headaches for the organization to me Seriously, if these 3 get their acts together, they are nightmares to their opponents. Fortunately for other teams, they are full of dramas. That's the disappointing part. These three, along with whoever they get, could play at a level where they could win a title. When all three playing at their 100% and playing amazingly, they definitely deserve to win the title for sure, they are at least in the discussion. But instead, they are just headaches that keep on bothering the team instead of actually playing, Simmons with his fake injury that doesn't get better and his childish acts, Durant with his request to leave, which he always does to teams, and Irving with him being a weirdo overall. I do not think that this team has what it takes to be at 100% ever, not with these players at least, maybe if they get decent trade returns.
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August 16, 2022, 09:33:49 PM |
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I still think that fully healthy Nets for a whole year could end up being great. Last year, at the start of the season the talks were about Lakers vs Nets finals, with harden instead of Simmons obviously, we all saw the result of that.
And neither one of those 2 teams made it at least through the Conference Finals because each team is having their own sort of problem at that time and only the Nets made it to the playoffs but were swept by the Boston Celtics in the first round. While Lakers were also struggling in the regular season because AD was injured and WB cannot find his rhythm.
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August 16, 2022, 09:49:41 PM |
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And neither one of those 2 teams made it at least through the Conference Finals because each team is having their own sort of problem at that time and only the Nets made it to the playoffs but were swept by the Boston Celtics in the first round.
While Lakers were also struggling in the regular season because AD was injured and WB cannot find his rhythm.
Well, it's just not their time to shine because they both have lots of problems in their team which is the biggest disadvantage for them compared to the synchronized teams that get through the conference finals. Anyway, that's all in the fast and right now, they need to focus on their play on how to be effectively winning more games in able for them not to struggle to compete at play-in tournaments and will just gonna swept by the number 1 teams in the playoffs.
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Nets are now rank number 8 with +1600 odds, honestly, I like it as it's very attractive. Do you think it's worth a shot? Worth a shot for a hardcore Brooklyn Nets fan. But for being just a gambler, I won't take that for the simple reason that I don't prefer that team even though Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving will stay. The odds will also change while the season is approaching depending on what will happen on their roster. Exactly right! Even the players and management of the Brooklyn Nets doesn't know how will they keep these 3 drama queens in place so that they will work as a team, the odds are good but betting for Nets this time is not quite a good idea for sure. As for me, I'd go for the Golden State Warriors and the Boston Celtics but I'll just wait for the season to start first.
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August 16, 2022, 10:26:19 PM |
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This will be another test for them if they can make this rooster work out since if they will have good chemistry together then maybe they achieve what they want to reach, they are still title contender knowing Durant and Irving still capable to have a good run plus if Simmons will play without adding toxicity to them then might we will see them on finals next season, but this is still unclear until they agree to adopt their roles and erase their pride to play as a team.
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now. Durant Irving Simmons. This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come. the worst nightmare for a coach and a manager of some team Is when they have the best players in the league, they have all material and financial resources but at the end of the league they are not the champions, and they have to see another team with less resources than them and with average players winning the league. Without a doubt, this hurts the coaches and management of any club that is in this situation, I hope this doesn't happen to them.
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August 16, 2022, 10:33:09 PM |
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A lot of basketball fans around the world reacted to this photo wherein Brooklyn superstar KD played with Boston's main man Jayson Tatum. It seems that there is still a secret ongoing trade deal and maybe they are testing the 2 superstars' chemistry.
Expect negotiations going on behind closed doors as long as the trade window is still open. I'm not really sure what the fuss is all about to be honest. Yes there's a noise going around of potential team up but players from opposing teams have practiced together in the past.
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August 16, 2022, 11:01:57 PM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
They are Big 3 just because of their names. Ok, let's say they are not divas and all on their best status, with no trade dramas or whatever, here are my concerns about Ben Simmons. - Ben Simmons is used in the PG position. Sixers is also a team where there are not much isolation plays. Joel Embiid does it on the low-post or perimeter shooting but most of the time, the Sixers are sharing the ball always in every possession. Here in Brooklyn Nets, there's only 1 usual play mosthat t of the time which is, the offense is only designed for Kyrie or Durant and mostly, isolation plays. - Kevin Durant is a ball-hog. Once he is set for isolation, his teammates should not expect now to receive the ball. Durant will force his offense even if he is well-defended. - At some point, what I mentioned about Durant can also apply to Irving. The bottom line, Ben Simmons will surely have a hard time adjusting to his new role as a backcourt duo with either of these Nets superstars though chemistry can be formed while continuously playing at each other.
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August 16, 2022, 11:38:48 PM |
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I mean if both Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant reverse their requests to be traded away from Brooklyn, I could see this team being very good with another year under their belts as well as having time to gel with Ben Simmons. But whether they can beat the Warriors or not I’m not too sure. I think if they all play to their fullest abilities and stay healthy, they could..Durant is a top 3 player on the planet and Kyrie is top 10..so that should be enough for them to compete with anyone.
Yes, that's true, well remembered! I believe that one of the main problems for the poor performance of the Nets was the lack of chemistry in the team among others factors, for example, injuries. The Nets are an excellent team, I have no doubts about that, I even believe that if they improve the synchrony and have more chemistry, the Nets can be a team that has a chance to beat the Warriors.
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August 16, 2022, 11:43:47 PM |
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A lot of basketball fans around the world reacted to this photo wherein Brooklyn superstar KD played with Boston's main man Jayson Tatum. It seems that there is still a secret ongoing trade deal and maybe they are testing the 2 superstars' chemistry.
Expect negotiations going on behind closed doors as long as the trade window is still open. I'm not really sure what the fuss is all about to be honest. Yes there's a noise going around of potential team up but players from opposing teams have practiced together in the past. It's normal to see players from opposing teams do practices together it just so happened that there's a rumor trade between the teams so it's really normal to see it that way, maybe yes the negotiation still open and knowing that all matter is the business different teams will be okay to trade up as long as they've got decent offers. Still on the a rolling talks in between.
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August 17, 2022, 12:38:55 AM |
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Speaking of trades, there seems to be a renewed interest on Donovan Mitchell from the Hornets and the Wizards. It's going to be interesting to hear as well what will be the package that both teams are offering Utah in exchange of Mitchell. Backcourt of Beal/Mitchell? or Ball/Mitchell? which make sense? This was reported by: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1559604416906272768
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August 17, 2022, 12:42:06 AM |
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This will be another test for them if they can make this rooster work out since if they will have good chemistry together then maybe they achieve what they want to reach, they are still title contender knowing Durant and Irving still capable to have a good run plus if Simmons will play without adding toxicity to them then might we will see them on finals next season, but this is still unclear until they agree to adopt their roles and erase their pride to play as a team.
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now. Durant Irving Simmons. This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come. Yes in papers they are big 3, but for sure you know that problem right? It's not just the chemistry but the whole attitude, Durant requested to be traded, he thinks he has in control, same with Kyrie, doesn't want to get vaccinated, the team suffers and come play-off time, this 2 disappears. The the drama queen Ben Simmons, can he still play next season? There are more questions right now in terms of the whole Nets organization, everything is not on the same page.
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August 17, 2022, 04:32:17 AM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now. Durant, Irving, Simmons. This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
Yes in papers they are big 3, but for sure you know that problem right? It's not just the chemistry but the whole attitude, Durant requested to be traded, he thinks he has in control, same with Kyrie, doesn't want to get vaccinated, the team suffers and come play-off time, this 2 disappears. The the drama queen Ben Simmons, can he still play next season? There are more questions right now in terms of the whole Nets organization, everything is not on the same page. On paper, this team does not have any problems. But in reality, the players we call the big 3 are actually causing some problems. There is no doubt that Durant's request to be traded is the biggest problem with the team right now. A player requesting to play for another team but eventually staying is not a positive sign at all. There will be a lot of variables that might effect his gameplay after this. It seems to me that Kyrie's problem is not that big of a deal since at least he doesn't have any problems playing for the team, doesn't he?
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August 17, 2022, 05:16:04 AM |
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This will be another test for them if they can make this rooster work out since if they will have good chemistry together then maybe they achieve what they want to reach, they are still title contender knowing Durant and Irving still capable to have a good run plus if Simmons will play without adding toxicity to them then might we will see them on finals next season, but this is still unclear until they agree to adopt their roles and erase their pride to play as a team.
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now. Durant Irving Simmons. This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come. 3 Strong egos I can say lol. These 3 are one of the best and talented players in the NBA, but as per history from different teams they've been, they have a very poor attitude and chemistry is more likely not going to work for all 3 of them. Either one of them cannot act as a leader, and cannot win a championship without the leadership of the others. KD won his 2 rings with the GWS, obviously we all knew why though he won the finals MVP but he have a lot of help to achieve that. While Irving won his ring because of LeBron.
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August 17, 2022, 05:18:28 AM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
More like big 3 headaches for the organization to me I'm expecting that they will play their best and bring the Nets to the finals. They cannot keep that drama forever, their future will be affected and I'm sure they understand that as although they are no anymore young, their value is still high. They just have to had an impressive season, teams will be making ways to make that trade possible.
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August 17, 2022, 06:44:34 AM |
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There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant Irving Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
More like big 3 headaches for the organization to me I'm expecting that they will play their best and bring the Nets to the finals. They cannot keep that drama forever, their future will be affected and I'm sure they understand that as although they are no anymore young, their value is still high. They just have to had an impressive season, teams will be making ways to make that trade possible. I think they're probably capable of taking the Nets to the finals, but I don't think it'll happen. Kyrie is already saying he'll only play 60 games. Durant is trying like hell to get out and who knows what's going on with Simmons, he won't talk to anyone. They'll almost certainly be the most dysfunctional team in the NBA. Phoenix seems to be making another push to try and get Durant, although I don't know what they have to offer. Kyrie to me seems trapped in a bad place and likely to have more drama... Ben is a wildcard. I'm looking forward to their first game in a couple months though. I hope they stick together long enough to get a look at what they could have been.
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August 17, 2022, 07:43:31 AM |
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I understand why Dray wants a max contract, he enters into a marriage life and he has bigger responsibility now especially if they will have kids in the future. I don't follow his life outside basketball, so all I can say is that congratulations to him, hopefully he will be champ again.
Yes, now I understand it too. Security first. I think that is why he was nonstop talking about it in his podcast. He just wants to be in a good life in case something bad happens like injuries or other things like sudden trades. ~ A lot of basketball fans around the world reacted to this photo wherein Brooklyn superstar KD played with Boston's main man Jayson Tatum. It seems that there is still a secret ongoing trade deal and maybe they are testing the 2 superstars' chemistry. Jaylen Brown fans aren't happy seeing this. But for me, a Brown believer ever since, I don't care if he will be traded in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is a rich team and if Jaylen will play there then there is a big possibility that he will become their main guy unlike in Boston. Kyrie is not young anymore with an attitude and bad shooter Ben Simmons got an attitude too.
I have read about this too somewhere on Twitter but I think the meeting was just for training exercises/working out which is normal for players, especially in summer. Kobe also worked out with Tatum before but Kobe didn't become a Celtic or Tatum didn't become a Lakers. This is nothing unless the management of the Brooklyn Nets is really trying to trade KD. They are not. The offers given were "okay" but the counters they threw is impossible for the other end to deal with.
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