2024 NBA Season

[karabiber]

KD cited the Miami Heat as one of the teams he would like to be traded to. The Heat will then want to seize all opportunities. But if Miami and Brooklyn are to agree on a trade, a third team must be involved in the deal. This complicates things. Because Adebayo and Simmons cannot play in the same team due to their contract type. I think there will be a solution to this. I think KD will go to the Heat this season.

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[OgNasty]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

[mirakal]

^^ For sure, the commissioner is not going to be happy with that. Yes players have freedom, but in this case, and if I'm not mistaken, this is a super max contract being given to KD and then after a few years and he still has like 2 years in his contract, he suddenly request a trade? It is close to being disrespectful to Brooklyn, after emptying their pockets not just for him but for Irving as well, he will suddenly ditch the Nets because it's not going his way? Yeah, for sure new rules are going to be set in by the NBA to address this kind of scenario.

That's a pure disrespect, Durant already had a big salary and yet he still want to leave the team, there must be a problem within the organization, but I think it's not fair to request for a trade when the management has not met their expectation yet from Durant.

I agree, surely that was a slap to the management after what they done for Durant and he should stop these nonsense while trying use his freedom to opt out from the Nets. He should learn that he was also a part of the mistake last season because he was also not there to help the team as he was injured, if he wasn't injured that time, he could've at least avoided the situation where the team was swept in the 1st round and I bet Harden is still in the Nets.

[chaser15]

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

I think it's not about anything about the performance of DeAndre Ayton. It's clear in the locker room that Ayton and the Suns management aren't on good terms for long that's why it lead for considering Ayton to be traded. Prior to the 2021-22 season, the Suns think that Ayton is not in the tier of Luka Doncic and Trae Young that's why a max contract has not been offered to him. Since the Suns choked and got upset by the Dallas Mavericks last playoffs, that push more the consideration of trading Ayton to other players.

The Kevin Durant to Phoenix trade will not work and is not possible. Brooklyn Nets won't be satisfied to just receive Ayton in return. It should also involve other Suns' key players. If that's the only offer that Suns will do, then it's better for the Nets to just keep Durant and work on his current contract even if the latter will not play. In the first place, Durant will violate the terms and will take the consequences if he does that. If only Durant didn't accept the contract extension last season, he should be free to do whatever he wants.

He made a mistake. That's the problem when a superstar feels they are entitled to do everything. I hope Durant will be kept by the Nets and they will not get a good trade package. Durant should feel the effect of what he did. Agreeing to max contract then asking to be traded, what a joke by him. Nets even have good words for him when that sign happened thinking Durant will build a legacy on the team.

[livingfree]

They've got already a good roster and got some new addition from the draft for which we can also see new potentials from there.

But if it's for KD, we still need to see what's really for him and what team is really serious of taking him and getting that crazy deal for the trade that he wants for Nets.

And from that good roster, I think this is settled that the Golden State Warriors will not need anything, for now, for me I think the teams that will truly need Kevin Durant were the Miami Heat and the Phoenix Suns, but for the Miami Heat having difficulty in getting him due to lack of resources, and for the Phoenix Suns inability to get back Deandre Ayton, they need a bigger all-around man, so likely Kevin Durant can land on these teams or even on the other rumored teams that likely needs him, so let's just wait and see,

Not yet settled unless it comes from officially that they won't do the trade anymore. I haven't seen any news yet but most of them are all about its interest for taking KD and also allowing first picks just for him.

This is a big trade that they do ask and if an interested team really wants him, they'll just going to offer something that cannot be declined or hard to decline trade.

[Harkorede]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

Yeah, it puts Phoenix Suns in tough spot, but I really can't blame De Andre Ayton, he was becoming no so significant to the team as he once was and during the playoffs it was pretty evident that sometimes for things to workout well for the Suns he needed to be on the bench, no player would of Ayton's caliber would like that.  I however don't see Durant as step up for them either, I mean no disrespect to his abilities or work ethics but we all also know he influential he can be within that squad and that could have quite an effect on the chemistry they've built over the past 2-3 years.

[dwyane36]

They already rid of their coach, Vogel so that is a good move already.

Yep, the Lakers made the right decision by terminating Vogel's contract as he clearly didn't handle well with the team last season. At the same time, Darvin Ham as the new head coach of the Lakers doesn't inspire hope, and I don't expect the Lakers will be able to achieve any success with him. The problem is that Ham has no experience as a head coach because he has only worked as an assistant coach until now.

[wheelz1200]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

Yeah, it puts Phoenix Suns in tough spot, but I really can't blame De Andre Ayton, he was becoming no so significant to the team as he once was and during the playoffs it was pretty evident that sometimes for things to workout well for the Suns he needed to be on the bench, no player would of Ayton's caliber would like that.  I however don't see Durant as step up for them either, I mean no disrespect to his abilities or work ethics but we all also know he influential he can be within that squad and that could have quite an effect on the chemistry they've built over the past 2-3 years.

Have to disagree.  Durant with cp3 finding him in his spots.  Could be the best year Durant ever had on a team.  Durant can create his own but with a maestro giving him extra looks in the right spot, I need to see them paired.  Durant is a huge step up.  Imagine the room book will get with Durant out there too.  Could be video gamish.

[Captain Corporate]

Plus Durant is a great defender when he wants to, add in the great defense cp3 also has, that team would be great in defense as well. I am not saying that Suns would get Durant, would be very very hard to get Durant without giving up Booker and we all know they won't give up Booker. So what they have is bunch of role players that are semi-decent and some picks, thats about it. If Nets agree to that, they would be a bad team for sure, but they would at least have "something" instead of nothing. In that case, both the amazing passing of CP3 and defense, on top of amazing scoring of Durant and Defense, added with Booker scoring bunch of points as well along with them? That team is an instant championship team, I would put them as the favorites to win a title right away if they have that trio.

[OgNasty]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

Yeah, it puts Phoenix Suns in tough spot, but I really can't blame De Andre Ayton, he was becoming no so significant to the team as he once was and during the playoffs it was pretty evident that sometimes for things to workout well for the Suns he needed to be on the bench, no player would of Ayton's caliber would like that.  I however don't see Durant as step up for them either, I mean no disrespect to his abilities or work ethics but we all also know he influential he can be within that squad and that could have quite an effect on the chemistry they've built over the past 2-3 years.

Have to disagree.  Durant with cp3 finding him in his spots.  Could be the best year Durant ever had on a team.  Durant can create his own but with a maestro giving him extra looks in the right spot, I need to see them paired.  Durant is a huge step up.  Imagine the room book will get with Durant out there too.  Could be video gamish.

Durant is definitely a step up and they would immediatley become the favorites if they got him for Ayton and some picks or role players.  I think going forward though this would hurt their chances as keeping a young core together and they'd see an exodus of talent for better pay in the years to come.  With Durant you're going all in on winning a championship now while CP3 can still play at a high level.  You know if they don't win immediately Durant will be looking for his next stop.

[goinmerry]

They already rid of their coach, Vogel so that is a good move already. And obviously, Westbrook is not a fit for them, so that too will be the best move for their franchise and we can say that it was a wrong trade for them witt Washington.

Before, I think too that firing Vogel is a good move but is that really considered as one of the solutions for the Lakers' mess last season?

My answer is NO. The team struck with injuries and poor adjustment last season. That's the thing that I can't blame on their coach. Not saying Westbrook is good but since he already has experience playing a season for the Lakers, I can expect him to make some good adjustments next season.

There's no need for the Lakers to actually get another big package in exchange for Westbrook. It's another chemistry building again which the Lakers suck.
Keep everything on the core and just revamp the bench. Give it a season more before considering breaking again the core players. The cycle will just never stop.

[jossiel]

There's no need for the Lakers to actually get another big package in exchange for Westbrook. It's another chemistry building again which the Lakers suck.
Keep everything on the core and just revamp the bench. Give it a season more before considering breaking again the core players. The cycle will just never stop.

That's actually the key.

They just need to explore more with their options on what they actually have right now and that's the bench. Also, you're right, it will take time for another chemistry to be built and that could affect early games that they've got.

I'm sure that most teams would like to win their early games and it's no longer just a testing phase as it's always serious for them when it's all about those matches.

[ultrloa]

There's no need for the Lakers to actually get another big package in exchange for Westbrook. It's another chemistry building again which the Lakers suck.
Keep everything on the core and just revamp the bench. Give it a season more before considering breaking again the core players. The cycle will just never stop.

That's actually the key.

They just need to explore more with their options on what they actually have right now and that's the bench. Also, you're right, it will take time for another chemistry to be built and that could affect early games that they've got.

I'm sure that most teams would like to win their early games and it's no longer just a testing phase as it's always serious for them when it's all about those matches.

The problem last season to them is they are really in bad shape because they suffer from injuries and heavy upset due to their current environment. If they just build up this core and find solution to the problem for sure they can give a shot to their current line up since they are actually a respective stars on their past teams. Maybe fans and them expect to much to their current line up that's why frustration surrounds them while the season is running.

[agustina2]

There's no need for the Lakers to actually get another big package in exchange for Westbrook. It's another chemistry building again which the Lakers suck.
Keep everything on the core and just revamp the bench. Give it a season more before considering breaking again the core players. The cycle will just never stop.

That's actually the key.

They just need to explore more with their options on what they actually have right now and that's the bench. Also, you're right, it will take time for another chemistry to be built and that could affect early games that they've got.

I'm sure that most teams would like to win their early games and it's no longer just a testing phase as it's always serious for them when it's all about those matches.

I have to agree with you both. Give Westbrook a chance since he already has experience playing with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. In fairness to him, he didn't act as a leader wherever he is playing with LBJ and AD on the floor at the same time unlike on his previous teams. He is just following Lebron as a playmaker and he's just there waiting for the play to design for him. That's a good character of him but it's just that his shooting percentage becomes worst last season.

If the Lakers will get again another Superstar level, prime or post-prime, they have to rebuild again that chemistry over and over again.

[Dave1]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

Yeah, and I don't think that the Suns are willing to offer him that contract, it was obvious last year. And if they can't get Durant, then they will have to suffer the consequences of allowing Ayton to leave. Or Booker might be leverage now, so it's really up to them if they are willing or else forget about the Durant sweepstakes. And good for Ayton, but there will be more burden on his shoulder as he needs to proved himself that he is all worth of that max contract that the Pacers are going to offer.

[LogitechMouse]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

It turns out that the Suns matched the Pacer's historic $133M offer sheet for Ayton. Now the Suns will keep Ayton and will prohibit him from trading without the player's consent for a full year.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34245243/phoenix-suns-match-indiana-pacers-4-year-133-million-offer-sheet-deandre-ayton

The Suns lost McGee which is a huge addition to them defensively and losing Ayton means they might be at the bottom spot next season defensively. I'm not hearing any news regarding Biyombo if they will resign him. I also don't know what will be the future of Ayton with the Suns after what happened with him and Coach Monty against the Mavericks last season.
Also just to add, I saw a post on Facebook regarding a proposed trade between the Pelicans and the Nets.
The Nets asked for Ingram, Nance Jr and multiple first round picks for KD. The Pelicans declined on it. Does this show that KD's value in the market really is that low? Any thoughts.

[wheelz1200]

Shots fired:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet.  Now Suns hands are tied.  Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal.  2 days tick tock Phoenix.  Should be interesting to see what happens here.  

Ya, this is bad news for Phoenix. I think it basically gives them 2 days to get Durant or else they have nothing to offer. Ayton was one of the main factors in the run to the Finals for them and they might end up losing him for nothing. This is going to set them back quite a bit. They are terrible at managing their picks. Just a reminder that they could have had DeAaron Fox & Luka Doncic and instead those two picks wound them up with nothing (or maybe Durant, we’ll see.)

It turns out that the Suns matched the Pacer's historic $133M offer sheet for Ayton. Now the Suns will keep Ayton and will prohibit him from trading without the player's consent for a full year.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34245243/phoenix-suns-match-indiana-pacers-4-year-133-million-offer-sheet-deandre-ayton

The Suns lost McGee which is a huge addition to them defensively and losing Ayton means they might be at the bottom spot next season defensively. I'm not hearing any news regarding Biyombo if they will resign him. I also don't know what will be the future of Ayton with the Suns after what happened with him and Coach Monty against the Mavericks last season.
Also just to add, I saw a post on Facebook regarding a proposed trade between the Pelicans and the Nets.
The Nets asked for Ingram, Nance Jr and multiple first round picks for KD. The Pelicans declined on it. Does this show that KD's value in the market really is that low? Any thoughts.

They can trade him by mid January just not to the Pacers.  I think under rules because Pacers sheet'd him the Suns can't trade him to the Pacers for a full year but other tes who didmt offer they can trade to by mid year.  

Clearly Durant is off the board now and it's probably the heat or dude stays in Brooklyn.  Weirdly enough if kyrie and Durant stay with the jets this year I'd peg them.as the favorites.  Both playing pissed and for theor next shot (kyrie on a one year).   Dam I love the NBA.  Just hope the Knicks can play with the big dogs this year so it's interesting past March lol.

[jakelyson]

Also just to add, I saw a post on Facebook regarding a proposed trade between the Pelicans and the Nets.
The Nets asked for Ingram, Nance Jr and multiple first round picks for KD. The Pelicans declined on it. Does this show that KD's value in the market really is that low? Any thoughts.

I do not think that this scenario speaks of Durant's value but rather than the capability of the Pelicans to acquire Durant. Pelican is just a small market team, and we all know that they already signed Zion to a maximum rookie extension. And I do not think that giving up their young assets is a good move for them.

Plus, do you think Durant would want to play in a small market team?

It turns out that the Suns matched the Pacer's historic $133M offer sheet for Ayton. Now the Suns will keep Ayton and will prohibit him from trading without the player's consent for a full year.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34245243/phoenix-suns-match-indiana-pacers-4-year-133-million-offer-sheet-deandre-ayton

The Suns lost McGee which is a huge addition to them defensively and losing Ayton means they might be at the bottom spot next season defensively. I'm not hearing any news regarding Biyombo if they will resign him. I also don't know what will be the future of Ayton with the Suns after what happened with him and Coach Monty against the Mavericks last season.

Finally, Ayton getting the money that he deserves. And the four year deal is fully guaranteed. That speaks volume.

In regards with his relationship with his coach, I think they should patch things up. They are both professionals.

They can trade him by mid January just not to the Pacers.  I think under rules because Pacers sheet'd him the Suns can't trade him to the Pacers for a full year but other tes who didmt offer they can trade to by mid year. 

They can trade him, but Ayton has veto power until July next year. That means he have the last word if he wants to be traded or not.

[Reid]

They can trade him by mid January just not to the Pacers.  I think under rules because Pacers sheet'd him the Suns can't trade him to the Pacers for a full year but other tes who didmt offer they can trade to by mid year.  

Suns are now cornered with their own mistake of not giving the contract extension for Ayton as early as they could. They could've saved a lot of money in the process buy chose not to.

Clearly Durant is off the board now and it's probably the heat or dude stays in Brooklyn.  Weirdly enough if kyrie and Durant stay with the jets this year I'd peg them.as the favorites.  Both playing pissed and for theor next shot (kyrie on a one year).   Dam I love the NBA.  Just hope the Knicks can play with the big dogs this year so it's interesting past March lol.

They will be forced to play with each other even if they don't want anymore? Will that even work out? Well, I guess they have to work it out because they are being paid such huge amount of money.

Oh and just found out about the latest with the Ayton contract. It gets exciting.
Suns match Deandre Ayton's four-year, $133 million max offer sheet from Pacers, per report

[Pamadar]

Yeah, and I don't think that the Suns are willing to offer him that contract, it was obvious last year. And if they can't get Durant, then they will have to suffer the consequences of allowing Ayton to leave. Or Booker might be leverage now, so it's really up to them if they are willing or else forget about the Durant sweepstakes. And good for Ayton, but there will be more burden on his shoulder as he needs to proved himself that he is all worth of that max contract that the Pacers are going to offer.

Nothing to worry in Ayton part, he already sign his dream contract and it's secure or else pacers need to

look for another option after this season, but most players are up to the money. Sorry to say, but it's no longer the same league as
before where pride is really important, it's more on the money side and how they will earn the max that they always dream after
impressing the league from their previous performances.