2024 NBA Season

[yazher]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

[Baofeng]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

[Natalim]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Draymond was just an ordinary NBA Player if he didn't won a championship. Because he played with the best team in the NBA that's why he became popular, and in fairness to him although he does not have an exceptional talent, but the team really struggle if Draymond Green is not around, especially in big games.

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Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Age is one big barrier in NBA and have denied some players enough time to play games because they won't be as active as they were. Draymond green still have time to play game but we all know he's aging and we don't expect good performance from him as before. He still delivered and has a solid defend but interms of running and doing the ups and downs, we would expect low from him. Warriors will extend contract with him but not to his satisfaction due to age and he would earned respect in the team.

[Kelvinid]

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Age is one big barrier in NBA and have denied some players enough time to play games because they won't be as active as they were. Draymond green still have time to play game but we all know he's aging and we don't expect good performance from him as before. He still delivered and has a solid defend but interms of running and doing the ups and downs, we would expect low from him. Warriors will extend contract with him but not to his satisfaction due to age and he would earned respect in the team.

Age is the biggest factor but if you are exceptional, you can still earn big minutes, just like Lebron James, despite being old already, he is still the one leading his team, so Draymond can still play his usual, being smart in the court and able to help his team to win. I understand Draymond, he wants a big contract because he wants to prepare for his future now that he is already married.

[danherbias07]

We are underestimating him too much, Green is a star player for a reason, of course, he will still be effective in other teams because of the coaching staff will make sure that once they acquire him they have a system that will fit for him, imagine giving him a max salary and not using him effectively, that's insane.

Not really underestimating him, it's his playstyle that will be difficult to insert into one team.
I know he is good, especially on the defensive end but it's the offense that he lacks. He is used to feeding offensive players like the splash brothers and it will not be easy for a new team how they can maximize that type of skills if they don't have the same type of roster and coaching style.
All of that should be considered first before bringing him in and how much they can offer for his contract.

And like what you said, Zion also has outside shots that he can take if he has a good look. Regular season is
approaching, we will see good improvements from NOP with Zion playing.

Zion with an improved Brandon Ingram who carried the team last year and then CJ McCollum, it's actually a scary team. 

[carlisle1]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Draymond was just an ordinary NBA Player if he didn't won a championship. Because he played with the best team in the NBA that's why he became popular, and in fairness to him although he does not have an exceptional talent, but the team really struggle if Draymond Green is not around, especially in big games.

The timing was right for Draymond, when he play for GSW the splash bro and Iggy was really performing well,
plus those big that help them to win the title.

Maybe his presence really helps them in winning the game and giving GSW 4 rings, but classifying as an elite star I don't see him
close to those mentioned names above, just like what you said, he's just an ordinary player who understands the game well
and playing with the right sets of players who are working together.

[jakelyson]

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We are underestimating him too much, Green is a star player for a reason, of course, he will still be effective in other teams because of the coaching staff will make sure that once they acquire him they have a system that will fit for him, imagine giving him a max salary and not using him effectively, that's insane.

I do not know if other teams will offer him with a max contract though. In a year or two, he will be on the decline. Offering him max is just overestimating his value. I think he will receive decent offers but a max, I doubt it.

Not really underestimating him, it's his playstyle that will be difficult to insert into one team.

Then you have to consider this one as well when calculating his value in other teams. He is lucky he has Steph and Klay in the team, and Kerr as his coach because he fits too much in their system.

And like what you said, Zion also has outside shots that he can take if he has a good look. Regular season is
approaching, we will see good improvements from NOP with Zion playing.

Zion with an improved Brandon Ingram who carried the team last year and then CJ McCollum, it's actually a scary team. 

... until you see him twitch his ankle again. Hopefully not too much this year.

[YuginKadoya]

I wonder where would Green go after GSW. He is not actually a player that could produce by himself. He needs a good system that can exploit his talents and he needs teammates that compliment his playstyle in order to be effective.

Sad but true, for me, I think he spent his whole career inside the Golden State Warriors for 10 years since 2012, and since he was only 22 years old, and I think he build up his playstyle just to fit in the need of the Golden State Warriors main man Stephen Curry, back then the two was a duo that is truly inseparable and he is a great defending machine although this potentially decreases his offensive stat, because he is not be forcing any big play in offense but mostly on defense, Then that is it for him, I am also curious on what team he can benefit or what team will be a benefit for him but I really go 1 team, for me, Boston Celtics is the only team I see,

So both Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole got 4-year deals in their new contracts. But Wiggins got only $109 million in his deal while Poole secured a $140 million contract. Wiggins though admitted that he is very happy at GSW so he was willing to take the pay cut in order to keep the team's core roster. Pretty sure Wiggins could've secured a more expensive contract than Poole following his solid performance last season. I'm just glad that he finally finds peace and happiness at GSW. He was once dubbed a failure after being drafted at pick 1. Jordan Poole on the other hand is now feeling better and is all in for the team this coming season. I wonder what's on Green's mind now? Green should be lucky enough to get a Wiggins-type deal because his numbers are decreasing and he is also becoming older to deserve long contracts.

Andrew Wiggins can sure demand more but in insight, this is also a good contract for him, and right now the Golden State Warriors core is in for a good season, I really wish there will be no injuries this time, and now that James Wiseman is on the team it will be a more different Warriors compared with the last season, while Green is in the midst of getting the trust back to him he will need to have property show the management that he still a viable asset for the team, but right now it is getting slimmer for Draymond Green, next year will be another headache for the Golden State Warriors on the Salary of most of their players,

[DanWalker]

If only Draymond Green expressed his concern over his desire for the max contract prior to signing a 4-year $100 million in 2020-21, maybe things today might have changed. Asking for such kind of huge contract at this point in his career is really a no-brainer to grant. Now entering his post-prime period, he is even lucky that his current contract is still considered one of the good contracts out there providing his stats is not that appealing anymore. Being a team advisor, especially to young cores is not a factor.

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.

I agree with you. As he has reached the end of his prime, asking for such a huge contract was not the right option for him in my opinion. Maybe he could have asked for a bit less. This is because he should know that he won't be able to deliver the same quality of games as he used to even a few years back. Yes, I have to say that he is quite lucky that his contract is even being considered. I feel that he may have a hard time saying goodbye to GSW because he has served them for quite a long time and also hope that he will let his contract with GSW expire, by this he will get a well-deserved farewell.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.
We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Draymond was just an ordinary NBA Player if he didn't won a championship. Because he played with the best team in the NBA that's why he became popular, and in fairness to him although he does not have an exceptional talent, but the team really struggle if Draymond Green is not around, especially in big games.

If we set the standard very high, it will not be possible for Green alone to accomplish a great deal. If we are talking about Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, those are the absolute elite in the game. That is a reason why they were still performing even at a very old age. There is no way we can compare Green to those players, since in my opinion, he is simply not the same level of player as those players. It's safe to say he is above average in his field. However, there is a big difference between being above average and being one of the best.

At this stage, I also think it is quite a big mistake to give Green a big contract at this point in time. Truth be told, I think he's not worth the money he's asking for.

[wheelz1200]

Anyone else getting excited for the regular season!  October is the best month, baseball playoffs, football going strong and nba starting up not to mention the college sports. 

Someone give me a bold prediction for this year.  Could be nba champ, mvp winning, scoring title, etc.

Here's mine:

RJ Barrett averages 25 points a game leading the Knicks to a spot in the eastern conference finals eventually losing to the Bucks.  There.

[jossiel]

I agree with you. As he has reached the end of his prime, asking for such a huge contract was not the right option for him in my opinion. Maybe he could have asked for a bit less. This is because he should know that he won't be able to deliver the same quality of games as he used to even a few years back. Yes, I have to say that he is quite lucky that his contract is even being considered. I feel that he may have a hard time saying goodbye to GSW because he has served them for quite a long time and also hope that he will let his contract with GSW expire, by this he will get a well-deserved farewell.

And he's might not able to ask that again since he's already pass his prime.

He's still lucky that he's got a good contract and for sure that he's going to stay with the winning team that he's been with and would still like to have that championship for this season.

Didn't he said that he wants to get into the Lakers? That's what I can remember from some news that I've seen.

[Yogee]

... Someone give me a bold prediction for this year.  Could be nba champ, mvp winning, scoring title, etc.

Here's mine:

RJ Barrett averages 25 points a game leading the Knicks to a spot in the eastern conference finals eventually losing to the Bucks.  There.

Bold prediction indeed hehe.

I'll go for Zion and the Pelicans dominating the Nuggets in the semis and tgen the Warriors in the West Finals. Teams could be in reverse order but NOP will win just the same.

It would be nice to see both Ja and Zion duke it out in this season's playoffs.

[Baofeng]

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore.

Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants.

Draymond was just an ordinary NBA Player if he didn't won a championship. Because he played with the best team in the NBA that's why he became popular, and in fairness to him although he does not have an exceptional talent, but the team really struggle if Draymond Green is not around, especially in big games.

It's probably they miss Green leadership or his contribution like their best defensive man and then setting up their two scorer, in Steph and Klay and now they have 3 in Poole.

But as I have said, his game is going down and I would agree with Poole, as per report this is what he said that's why Green was so mad at him, is that Draymond is a single triple. So that says a lot about the numbers he put in last season. And if that numbers goes down again this season, then maybe the Warriors will not sign him up for a good contract.

[harizen]

We are underestimating him too much, Green is a star player for a reason, of course, he will still be effective in other teams because of the coaching staff will make sure that once they acquire him they have a system that will fit for him, imagine giving him a max salary and not using him effectively, that's insane.

That's not underestimating but a valid analysis.

Green is more effective clearly when he's with the Splash Brothers. He already used giving these 2 a clear shot. I'm also with others that he might struggle on other teams, especially since his trade will happen at this point of his career where we can assume he's not already in his prime.

Understanding the team's system is easy but it's not that simple to execute for some players especially Green that whose entire career is playing for the Warriors.

[jakelyson]

... Someone give me a bold prediction for this year.  Could be nba champ, mvp winning, scoring title, etc.

Here's mine:

RJ Barrett averages 25 points a game leading the Knicks to a spot in the eastern conference finals eventually losing to the Bucks.  There.

Bold prediction indeed hehe.

I'll go for Zion and the Pelicans dominating the Nuggets in the semis and tgen the Warriors in the West Finals. Teams could be in reverse order but NOP will win just the same.

It would be nice to see both Ja and Zion duke it out in this season's playoffs.

That is quite a bold prediction or maybe wishful thinking. I have yet to see Zion play a full season so I am not making any prediction that they will beat any of these two strong teams. Let's say that this year, zion will be perfectly healthy and will be able to play in the playoffs, I do not think they can easily get past these two teams. Compared to a very young and inexperienced Pelicans, these two teams are already seasoned in the playoffs. Especially GSW, which already went through multiple NBA Finals. Unless these two teams suffered injuries from their core players, the young Pelicans will not beat them.

I like though that JA and Zion face each other in the playoffs.

[...] as per report this is what he said that's why Green was so mad at him, is that Draymond is a single triple.

I have not read this report. The warriors did not release any reason why the altercation and they are mum about it. Or did I miss this one?

[LogitechMouse]

So both Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole got 4-year deals in their new contracts. But Wiggins got only $109 million in his deal while Poole secured a $140 million contract. Wiggins though admitted that he is very happy at GSW so he was willing to take the pay cut in order to keep the team's core roster. Pretty sure Wiggins could've secured a more expensive contract than Poole following his solid performance last season. I'm just glad that he finally finds peace and happiness at GSW. He was once dubbed a failure after being drafted at pick 1. Jordan Poole on the other hand is now feeling better and is all in for the team this coming season. I wonder what's on Green's mind now? Green should be lucky enough to get a Wiggins-type deal because his numbers are decreasing and he is also becoming older to deserve long contracts.

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.

Now that the young players Poole and Wiggins' contracts are now extended, both Green and Klay are in the hot seat right now.
They still have a guaranteed one-year deal, but will the Warriors management try to extend it? That's a big question.

Let's forget the Poole-Green incident because they are in good terms already. Poole's contract is higher than Wiggins but nevertheless, seeing both of them having a 4-year contract with the GSW is already a good thing or maybe age does a big factor in this one.

I don't know if Green and Klay's contract will be extended, and it must've been hard for GM Bob Myers to make a decision knowing that both of them are a huge part of the past dynasty that gave them 3 titles. Let's just hope that they will be given at least 1–2-year contract maybe.

[Hypnosis00]

I don't know if Green and Klay's contract will be extended, and it must've been hard for GM Bob Myers to make a decision knowing that both of them are a huge part of the past dynasty that gave them 3 titles. Let's just hope that they will be given at least 1–2-year contract maybe.

These two are the star players of the team, there's no way they won't be extended, probably they'll not get a max salary but the management will surely consider them still playing with the team. Actually, it's not only about the talent, it's about the chemistry of the team and it has been Klay, Curry, and Draymond Green who made this team a championship team.

[Japinat]

Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Yeah, he might be traded because the Warriors' management choose to give Poole a good contract than giving Green a max contract.

4 years contract, that's  $35 million per year, higher than Draymond Green which only making $25 million this season.
I wonder how he is feeling now, a young player getting bigger salary than him, and how about Andrew Wiggins contract extension, what would be the effect?

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

That is for sure, there's no way he couldn't hear about it. Even rumors are half true these days mainly about his situation. Personally, I don't even think that they'll give Green a max extension because that doesn't benefit the team anymore as they are prioritizing the younger ones who could be the next generation for the franchise. As for Green, he won't have a hard time going in any team in the league but the contract he'll get is not that high either.