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August 29, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
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He will have less weight on his shoulders, as Curry, an MVP himself, can also carry the team. I would like to see this happen, as it would bring back the unstoppable Warriors.
He'll have someone who can he rely to and there's no doubt with that. Both have their own championship experiences and became champions so a combination of that and relying to each other's strength will definitely something big to get troubled with by other teams.

This is what everyone was talking about when Giannis expresses his thoughts regarding his relationship with the Bucks. Everybody wants to see Giannis and Curry play together. To be honest, Giannis addition to the GSW will automatically buy them a ticket at the finals and the Warriors will become relevant again. Could this be better than when KD was with the Warriors? That's what I was thinking about. Though for sure, this will open up a lot of wide open threes for Curry as Giannis can't be stop with 1 man defending the paint.

It will be an interesting comparison because we know that Durant did really improved the already strong Warriors in his arrival and while Giannis is also an unstoppable player who is also a scoring machine himself but it's still a mystery whether if their tandem is much more stronger compared to when Durant was with the Warriors. Anyway, we will see that soon if ever the Bucks cannot rectify something in their roster as that was the reason why Giannis made a sign about his future move in 24-25 season and I very much agree that with Giannis's arrival in the Warriors will definitely make the team much stronger compared to what they are now.

The Warriors are currently facing challenges unlike when Durant joined the team, when they were already dominant and had won championships. This time around, they find themselves in a different situation, where they're in need of a strong big man to regain their status as championship contenders. If such a scenario were to unfold, there's optimism that the Warriors could secure multiple championships before Curry's retirement. Considering Curry's age of 35, time might be limited, but the addition of a dominant big man could potentially rejuvenate the team's competitiveness and lead to successful runs in the league.

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August 29, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
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For sure Seth Curry once played in the Golden State Warriors you can say he is no average player indeed, even though he is not an all star caliber he is something that can surely be a mini Stephen Curry, for sure with Giannis Antetokounmpo the team of the Milwaukee Bucks will be a different threat and for sure Seth Curry is still a blooming player with the age of 33 years old he is on the middle of his prime and likely still improving, so for sure this will be a Shining hope for the Milwaukee Bucks,


Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for Seth Curry, as he has always been in his brother's shadow. In his entire NBA career, he has changed 8 teams, and it seems he can't find the team that can bring him to his full potential. By the way, if you check his stats, you may notice that his prime was in the 21/22 season when he averaged 15 points per game. Unfortunately, his playing time was significantly reduced after the trade to the Nets, and he started to perform worse.

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For sure Seth Curry once played in the Golden State Warriors you can say he is no average player indeed, even though he is not an all star caliber he is something that can surely be a mini Stephen Curry, for sure with Giannis Antetokounmpo the team of the Milwaukee Bucks will be a different threat and for sure Seth Curry is still a blooming player with the age of 33 years old he is on the middle of his prime and likely still improving, so for sure this will be a Shining hope for the Milwaukee Bucks,


Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for Seth Curry, as he has always been in his brother's shadow. In his entire NBA career, he has changed 8 teams, and it seems he can't find the team that can bring him to his full potential. By the way, if you check his stats, you may notice that his prime was in the 21/22 season when he averaged 15 points per game. Unfortunately, his playing time was significantly reduced after the trade to the Nets, and he started to perform worse.
I would only feel sorry for him if he's actually as great as Steph and still doesn't get the playing time or recognition he deserves. They're not equally talented so someone will be on the shadows. One is a decent role player who probably reached his peak already while the other is a consistent game changer.

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August 29, 2023, 02:12:22 PM
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For sure Seth Curry once played in the Golden State Warriors you can say he is no average player indeed, even though he is not an all star caliber he is something that can surely be a mini Stephen Curry, for sure with Giannis Antetokounmpo the team of the Milwaukee Bucks will be a different threat and for sure Seth Curry is still a blooming player with the age of 33 years old he is on the middle of his prime and likely still improving, so for sure this will be a Shining hope for the Milwaukee Bucks,


Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for Seth Curry, as he has always been in his brother's shadow. In his entire NBA career, he has changed 8 teams, and it seems he can't find the team that can bring him to his full potential. By the way, if you check his stats, you may notice that his prime was in the 21/22 season when he averaged 15 points per game. Unfortunately, his playing time was significantly reduced after the trade to the Nets, and he started to perform worse.
I would only feel sorry for him if he's actually as great as Steph and still get the playing time or recognition he deserves. They're not equally talented so someone will be on the shadows. One is a decent role player who probably reached his peak already while the other is a consistent game changer.

That is their reality and they can't do nothing about it as they already know that they cannot have it both ways unless both of them are really talented and skillful enough to become incomparable but we know that there are some cases where siblings have dominated a sports or some other fields but that's not very common and for the Curry brothers, they are just a regular siblings who only have one dominant player and the other one is just playing decent.

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Nothing's personal here; it wasn't the punching incident that led the Warriors to decide on trading Poole. Instead, it was his performance in the playoffs, which I believe was subpar or uncharacteristic of him. I assume the issue between them was already resolved since they played together during the regular season. However, Poole's inconsistency might have played a role, which no team would want from a player they invested a lot of money in.

Same with your take. Personally, I agree with that statement. His performance made the franchise trading him, they gave him Max
but instead of playing with that worth, he didn't show up, especially during the playoff.

Things that may solidify the decision of sending him out and find someone who can bring the same impact and possible to open some cap to acquire
another additional role players.

It's done and we may see the impact when the season starts, either we see Poole to become more successful or maybe
trading him will start to break his career down.

I don’t think it was his performance as much as it was his inability to listen and follow instructions. There is a clip going around of Draymond trying to speak to him as he’s coming off the floor only to be ignored, and then Steph tries to talk to him and it’s the same thing. Poole is a great player, but he couldn’t stick with the Warriors system and that’s ultimately what got him moved.

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For sure Seth Curry once played in the Golden State Warriors you can say he is no average player indeed, even though he is not an all star caliber he is something that can surely be a mini Stephen Curry, for sure with Giannis Antetokounmpo the team of the Milwaukee Bucks will be a different threat and for sure Seth Curry is still a blooming player with the age of 33 years old he is on the middle of his prime and likely still improving, so for sure this will be a Shining hope for the Milwaukee Bucks,


Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for Seth Curry, as he has always been in his brother's shadow. In his entire NBA career, he has changed 8 teams, and it seems he can't find the team that can bring him to his full potential. By the way, if you check his stats, you may notice that his prime was in the 21/22 season when he averaged 15 points per game. Unfortunately, his playing time was significantly reduced after the trade to the Nets, and he started to perform worse.
I would only feel sorry for him if he's actually as great as Steph and still get the playing time or recognition he deserves. They're not equally talented so someone will be on the shadows. One is a decent role player who probably reached his peak already while the other is a consistent game changer.

That is their reality and they can't do nothing about it as they already know that they cannot have it both ways unless both of them are really talented and skillful enough to become incomparable but we know that there are some cases where siblings have dominated a sports or some other fields but that's not very common and for the Curry brothers, they are just a regular siblings who only have one dominant player and the other one is just playing decent.

Yup, both players have their own talents  but they are being separated  by the impact that they are bringing to their team.

I agree that steph is far different from Seth as we all witnessing how they both performing, though Seth is trying but the success Steph already gained was already too far, Steph already being qualified  as one of those decent  superstar  who played the game.
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Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

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August 29, 2023, 09:04:35 PM
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Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

We really don't know, but if there is smoke, there is a fire. Meaning, there are a lot of news of Giannis moving to Warriors, so it could be true or not but we will see. Perhaps it could still be based on Klay's performance? He could be a a trade bait next year, just saying.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

Any team will be a perfect fit for Giannis. He just need to surround himself with good players to win another ring. And maybe that's why he is pursuing the Warriors as they not just have a solid team, but they have the experience already with Steph Curry.

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Against a team with deadly offensive guards, GSW will be forced to bench CP3. Actually, it is okay to bench him since he is already 38 and will be 40 by the end of his contract. The issue though is that CP3 will be paid $30 million per year which is too high for someone to play 20sh minutes per game, especially during the playoffs if they can qualify.

Anyway, it remains to be seen if this GSW experiment will work. I still value young Poole over CP3 but I understand that GSW needs to let go of him since they prefer Draymond.
Yes, no doubt that Jordan Poole has a good contribution to them when they have a championship run. Nevertheless, last season was very different as Draymond and Poole has a scuffle prior to the season and it set the tone for the Warriors and then they completely collapse after the first round. I thought that the issues has been solved already.

But it seems that it was still very evident as we have seen Poole complaining every time he didn't got the ball and then he was bench by Kerr. As for CP3, maybe a good 10 minutes or even 15 minutes might be good for him as a Warrior as he is no longer at his prime and could also be prone to injury.
I would guess that keeping Draymond is a proof that there is going to be hard time for them going forward. Why is that? Well Poole was the one that got punched, but they still sent him away and did not back him up and just wanted to protect Draymond in that situation.

I can understand the loyalty because he is the guy they won 4 rings with and he is the master at the passing for klay and curry and memorized all the plays and does all the dirty things that others can't do to keep them clean etc etc. But that doesn't mean that other players will not see this and go "well I could be punched there and kicked off" and just not want to go there. I would guess this was a tough decision, they made the wrong one emotionally, but probably the right one by the team.
To be fair, we really don't know if that is the right or wrong decision for the Warriors. But obviously they have a choice and they put their money on the line for Draymond Green, because at the end, maybe the Dunleavy sees the contributions of Green to the Warriors and then Poole still very young and I would say his success put too much on his head.

So we will see if the right decision if the Warriors will go at least in the top 4 of the Western conference with CP3. That is the big question, but for Poole, since he is still young then he should move forward and become one of the best like Curry and Thompson.

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August 29, 2023, 09:18:43 PM
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Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

We really don't know, but if there is smoke, there is a fire. Meaning, there are a lot of news of Giannis moving to Warriors, so it could be true or not but we will see. Perhaps it could still be based on Klay's performance? He could be a a trade bait next year, just saying.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

Any team will be a perfect fit for Giannis. He just need to surround himself with good players to win another ring. And maybe that's why he is pursuing the Warriors as they not just have a solid team, but they have the experience already with Steph Curry.

Agreed.  Pretty much any team at this point outside a couple of the younger teams would make them an instant contender.  That's how good giannis is.  But agreed a team with a lot of good 3 and d guys that could open up the paint is where he needs to be to flourish.  He is killer on the drive and doesn't need to be a spot up shooter.

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I definitely wouldn’t say it’s impossible. If Giannis plays out his contract he could go wherever he wants. It’s just a matter of who wants to make the room for him or pay insane luxury tax penalties. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the Warriors would pay whatever and buyout whoever in order to pair up Curry and Giannis.

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I definitely wouldn’t say it’s impossible. If Giannis plays out his contract he could go wherever he wants. It’s just a matter of who wants to make the room for him or pay insane luxury tax penalties. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the Warriors would pay whatever and buyout whoever in order to pair up Curry and Giannis.
That will be ridiculous if the Warriors can keep their old roster intact while taking Giannis too. That way high of luxury tax and I don't think the Warriors owners could handle that anymore. It's suicide.
They will have to give up a lot of players to make it happen although like you said, it is possible with the right management.

Just imagining those two playing together gives me the goosebumps. One that should be defended in the three-point line to avoid building momentum attacking the rim and another that also must be defended in the three-point line because of his scary shooting career. It's crazy. An opponent will need two good defenders and what if a switch happens it's over.  Cheesy

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August 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

It's not personal, he just wants to win.
He said in an interview that he almost quit basketball in 2020 due to some mental issues. Then he won the championship and it was "the best feeling ever". That's what motivates him and keeps him going.

I guess he wants to prevent to fall in this hole again, and this is only possible if he can compete.
The Bucks last year have been the oldest team in the league and some big changes will and have to happen if they want to stay competitive. So if they improve the roster he stays, if they don't, good bye Giannis. Nobody can be mad about that after everything he gave to this team.

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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

It's not personal, he just wants to win.
He said in an interview that he almost quit basketball in 2020 due to some mental issues. Then he won the championship and it was "the best feeling ever". That's what motivates him and keeps him going.

I guess he wants to prevent to fall in this hole again, and this is only possible if he can compete.
The Bucks last year have been the oldest team in the league and some big changes will and have to happen if they want to stay competitive. So if they improve the roster he stays, if they don't, good bye Giannis. Nobody can be mad about that after everything he gave to this team.

I think he proved his point. A talent like that shouldn’t be stuck in Milwaukee forever. He brought them the championship like he said he would and he’ll play out his contract. I say let him move to California and set some all time records with Curry in between shooting movies and commercials. He deserves it. His story is a great one.

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I definitely wouldn’t say it’s impossible. If Giannis plays out his contract he could go wherever he wants. It’s just a matter of who wants to make the room for him or pay insane luxury tax penalties. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the Warriors would pay whatever and buyout whoever in order to pair up Curry and Giannis.
Can you please tell me which players can the Warriors give to the Bucks just to get Giannis? Because looking at their current roster, I don't think that the Bucks are interested in getting some Warriors players. They have 2 first round picks for the next 2 years. The Bucks are the oldest team in the NBA last season, and they need younger players definitely. If they want to get younger players, they need to get it from another team, and not the Warriors.

Yes it's still possible, but what are the chances of it to happen? All of the teams right now are interested in him already, and keeping an eye on him after his statement in one of his interview. The only question now is which team has the players, and draft picks that's enough to get Giannis. Unfortunately, I don't see the Warriors up there getting him, and TBH I don't also think that the Warriors will try to get him. I mean they have Looney as their starting Center, and that rookie as their back-up. Why the need for a 3rd one?

That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.
You're leaning towards the loyalty of a player thus, you see this one as disappointing, eh?

There are certain players who value loyalty over championship, and there are some who value championship over loyalty. Giannis falls on the 2nd one, and there's nothing wrong with it. The perfect example with this is Durant back when the Thunder are up 3-1, and then they still lost to the Warriors. The next season they joined Steph, and Klay to build that OP team. What's the reason? To get a title, and Giannis is almost the same. If he feels that he can't a 2nd title in Milwaukee then what's the reason for him to stay there? He values titles more than loyalty.

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August 30, 2023, 10:59:23 AM
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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

It's not personal, he just wants to win.
He said in an interview that he almost quit basketball in 2020 due to some mental issues. Then he won the championship and it was "the best feeling ever". That's what motivates him and keeps him going.

I guess he wants to prevent to fall in this hole again, and this is only possible if he can compete.
The Bucks last year have been the oldest team in the league and some big changes will and have to happen if they want to stay competitive. So if they improve the roster he stays, if they don't, good bye Giannis. Nobody can be mad about that after everything he gave to this team.

I think he proved his point. A talent like that shouldn’t be stuck in Milwaukee forever. He brought them the championship like he said he would and he’ll play out his contract. I say let him move to California and set some all time records with Curry in between shooting movies and commercials. He deserves it. His story is a great one.

If he love to move to GSW or any desired team then I guess he deserve that, he already finish his task with Bucks since as you said he already gives them a championship and now its time for him to discover other things outside on his team that can improve him. Maybe they would really get a good chemistry with Curry and if their pair up would happen then this is scary knowing that both of them can able to provide good numbers on their respected area.

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If he love to move to GSW or any desired team then I guess he deserve that, he already finish his task with Bucks since as you said he already gives them a championship and now its time for him to discover other things outside on his team that can improve him. Maybe they would really get a good chemistry with Curry and if their pair up would happen then this is scary knowing that both of them can able to provide good numbers on their respected area.

In terms of chemistry, I don't see any problem with Curry because he can always adjust to any superstar playing alongside him on the team. He already proved this with Kevin Durant, where despite being the best player on the team, Curry allowed Durant to shine as the best player. As a result, they won multiple championships, with Durant winning the Finals MVP twice. Throughout this, Curry remained true to himself without criticism or envy.

I believe Curry has the potential to elevate Giannis' game as well.

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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.
You're leaning towards the loyalty of a player thus, you see this one as disappointing, eh?

There are certain players who value loyalty over championship, and there are some who value championship over loyalty. Giannis falls on the 2nd one, and there's nothing wrong with it. The perfect example with this is Durant back when the Thunder are up 3-1, and then they still lost to the Warriors. The next season they joined Steph, and Klay to build that OP team. What's the reason? To get a title, and Giannis is almost the same. If he feels that he can't a 2nd title in Milwaukee then what's the reason for him to stay there? He values titles more than loyalty.
It's not about loyalty. I wasn't even thinking about that. My disappointment would come from the concentration of top talents in only a few teams. You mentioned Durant so let me use him as an example too. I think joining GSW and forming the "splash family" back then should never be replicated. Great job for getting the ring that he was chasing but that move eventually made the league quite predictable and boring.

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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.
You're leaning towards the loyalty of a player thus, you see this one as disappointing, eh?

There are certain players who value loyalty over championship, and there are some who value championship over loyalty. Giannis falls on the 2nd one, and there's nothing wrong with it. The perfect example with this is Durant back when the Thunder are up 3-1, and then they still lost to the Warriors. The next season they joined Steph, and Klay to build that OP team. What's the reason? To get a title, and Giannis is almost the same. If he feels that he can't a 2nd title in Milwaukee then what's the reason for him to stay there? He values titles more than loyalty.

Many superstars nowadays are different from the past. In the past, most of them stayed loyal to a team but most teams would trade them when they felt they were not in their primes anymore. And it was understandable since it was business as usual. Nowadays, some superstars not only want to get a ring by joining other superstars but they are also looking for better cities and places like Los Angeles, Florida, and the other big cities. There were even questions if Lebron could be compared to Jordan's greatness if he never left Cleveland. It's a fact that it is more difficult to get a ring by staying loyal to a team especially if the team is not that rich and the city is not that big nor has great weather or good places like white sand beaches. But it is also hard to judge these superstars choosing their preferred cities or joining a superteam because it's their own careers and lives to spend and at least they do not have regrets.

Giannis still has two more seasons before he can exercise his option to continue or leave or to extend. Before signing his super contract a few years ago, there were many teams that wanted to take him. IIRC the Miami Heat was one of those teams that were expecting to have a good chance of getting him. But at the end of the day, Giannis decided to stay in the smaller city of Milwaukee. Giannis delivered also a ring to the city so it could be that he also wants to play for another team or relocate to a better place. 

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