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August 30, 2023, 01:05:24 PM
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Against a team with deadly offensive guards, GSW will be forced to bench CP3. Actually, it is okay to bench him since he is already 38 and will be 40 by the end of his contract. The issue though is that CP3 will be paid $30 million per year which is too high for someone to play 20sh minutes per game, especially during the playoffs if they can qualify.

Anyway, it remains to be seen if this GSW experiment will work. I still value young Poole over CP3 but I understand that GSW needs to let go of him since they prefer Draymond.
Yes, no doubt that Jordan Poole has a good contribution to them when they have a championship run. Nevertheless, last season was very different as Draymond and Poole has a scuffle prior to the season and it set the tone for the Warriors and then they completely collapse after the first round. I thought that the issues has been solved already.

But it seems that it was still very evident as we have seen Poole complaining every time he didn't got the ball and then he was bench by Kerr. As for CP3, maybe a good 10 minutes or even 15 minutes might be good for him as a Warrior as he is no longer at his prime and could also be prone to injury.
I would guess that keeping Draymond is a proof that there is going to be hard time for them going forward. Why is that? Well Poole was the one that got punched, but they still sent him away and did not back him up and just wanted to protect Draymond in that situation.

I can understand the loyalty because he is the guy they won 4 rings with and he is the master at the passing for klay and curry and memorized all the plays and does all the dirty things that others can't do to keep them clean etc etc. But that doesn't mean that other players will not see this and go "well I could be punched there and kicked off" and just not want to go there. I would guess this was a tough decision, they made the wrong one emotionally, but probably the right one by the team.

Nothing's personal here; it wasn't the punching incident that led the Warriors to decide on trading Poole. Instead, it was his performance in the playoffs, which I believe was subpar or uncharacteristic of him. I assume the issue between them was already resolved since they played together during the regular season. However, Poole's inconsistency might have played a role, which no team would want from a player they invested a lot of money in.

Yes, that is indeed the reason why Jordan Poole was traded and not anyone else in the roster or Draymond Green. The punching incident was already buried and was not one of the factors why that specific trade took place. If only Poole showed consistency while everyone else in the team is giving their best, he could've remained as the Warriors and wear their jerseys again but since he wasn't, he can only blame himself because after having a good run, he then became a liability to the team.

Warriors will not trade Poole if he's consistent on his performance but he didn't achieve what their management expect so that one provably the main reason why Poole got traded. Thay punching incident is just additional factor since if that happen and Poole is contributing like a star player to Warriors for sure they will not let this guy go anywhere. I guess this is good trade done by then as they eliminate the huge salary of Poole and can give it to Green and to other more useful players on their team.

I disagree. That punching incident wasn't included on the factor on why the Warriors decided to trade Poole, it was his performance in the playoffs which made the Warriors did what they did and in-fact, Poole had it coming to himself because he was not on his usual self during that time. And if Draymond Green was also inconsistent, I won't be surprised either if both of them will not wear the same uniform they had next season but it was just Poole.

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August 30, 2023, 01:10:01 PM
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Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

The Warriors can make it happen if ever Giannis will insist that he will only seek shelter in the Warriors roof but if no team will be named, I bet almost all of the teams in the league will submit their requests to so that they can land Giannis in their roster because that is already a chance. Knowing Giannis, he's the kind of player who doesn't care which team he plays, he just wanted to be surrounded with some players who also want to win because that is also what he said recently about his situation in the Bucks.
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August 30, 2023, 02:00:19 PM
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Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

The Warriors can make it happen if ever Giannis will insist that he will only seek shelter in the Warriors roof but if no team will be named, I bet almost all of the teams in the league will submit their requests to so that they can land Giannis in their roster because that is already a chance. Knowing Giannis, he's the kind of player who doesn't care which team he plays, he just wanted to be surrounded with some players who also want to win because that is also what he said recently about his situation in the Bucks.

Yeah Warriors was known to always exceed with their cap and willing to risk more money and pay if ever that Giannis will be available, they can take that risk for the sake of another title.

I can say that if that kind of mega trade will happen, its something that might bring more titles to this
franchise, with splash bros still have that great connections, adding Giannis will surely bring big impact,
knowing how good Giannis and how dedicated he is in terms of wanting to win another title.
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August 30, 2023, 02:06:33 PM
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The Warriors can make it happen if ever Giannis will insist that he will only seek shelter in the Warriors roof but if no team will be named, I bet almost all of the teams in the league will submit their requests to so that they can land Giannis in their roster because that is already a chance. Knowing Giannis, he's the kind of player who doesn't care which team he plays, he just wanted to be surrounded with some players who also want to win because that is also what he said recently about his situation in the Bucks.

It's not a good practice when players insist they only want to play on a particular team. Lillard and Harden's statements this offseason are prime examples of this. Both insisted on being traded only to the teams they wanted. The result was expected: one got a warning, while the other was fined. So, if Giannis really wants to leave the Bucks, he shouldn't focus on just one team.
By the way, I've also heard rumors that the Lakers and Knicks might be places that he might be interested in the future.

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August 30, 2023, 02:28:39 PM
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By the way, I've also heard rumors that the Lakers and Knicks might be places that he might be interested in the future.

I don't think Giannis would be happy joining LeBron. In my opinion, he doesn't seem to fit with the team anymore, and I doubt they can accommodate Giannis considering LeBron and Davis already receive hefty salaries. Additionally, having three big men in the starting lineup doesn't appear favorable; it seems a bit odd in my opinion Smiley

Perhaps if a player who wants to be traded doesn't vocalize their preferred team, fans would not speculate as much. This would be better for the NBA, as fans might become disappointed and potentially withdraw their support from the team due to such speculation.

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August 30, 2023, 03:25:11 PM
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I think he proved his point. A talent like that shouldn’t be stuck in Milwaukee forever. He brought them the championship like he said he would and he’ll play out his contract. I say let him move to California and set some all time records with Curry in between shooting movies and commercials. He deserves it. His story is a great one.

Giannis needs to ripe the fruit of his success as much as he wants right now because he deserved it and as you said, he gave the Buncks the championships they really wanted and now it's time to have his own choice as a player or someone who want to fulfill his dreams. I guess his planning to have some bigger fans club and he wants to have some further experience in order not to waste his talent and current fame. so when he retires he still gets some offers from endorsers and big companies.

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August 30, 2023, 08:13:07 PM
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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

It's not personal, he just wants to win.
He said in an interview that he almost quit basketball in 2020 due to some mental issues. Then he won the championship and it was "the best feeling ever". That's what motivates him and keeps him going.

Yes, we can't blame him, although if I recall it, he says something about KD joining super teams? Obviously, Giannis just trolling KD, but now it seems that he could have change his mind and maybe do a KD move just to get another ring.

I guess he wants to prevent to fall in this hole again, and this is only possible if he can compete.
The Bucks last year have been the oldest team in the league and some big changes will and have to happen if they want to stay competitive. So if they improve the roster he stays, if they don't, good bye Giannis. Nobody can be mad about that after everything he gave to this team.

Add injuries to it as well, Middleton got injured and was not the same offensive player as he was. So it was a totally different team after winning their first ring. Maybe it was just the mindset as well, but we will see for sure Giannis will give everything he had again for this season. But if they fall for another disappointment, then who knows, he could be packing his bags though to join other teams.

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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

This could result with him going to Warriors if he wants to, and Warriors could trade some players away to make some cap space but to be fair they do not have much. Not like Giannis will accept just bare minimum salary and just go there, vet min for him would be very tiny, he could keep on making a lot more than that. I think he is capable of getting even more than Jalen Brown at this point so it should be important for him to stay.

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August 30, 2023, 08:23:07 PM
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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

This could result with him going to Warriors if he wants to, and Warriors could trade some players away to make some cap space but to be fair they do not have much. Not like Giannis will accept just bare minimum salary and just go there, vet min for him would be very tiny, he could keep on making a lot more than that. I think he is capable of getting even more than Jalen Brown at this point so it should be important for him to stay.
If Giannis does leave the Bucks whatever team he goes to will make him the highest paid player currently. Unless it really is all about championships he might take a team friendly deal that puts him on a team with a good shot at winning, but he will still get paid very well. He's not going to join a team for 20 million a year is all i'm saying. I cannot really see the Bucks letting him go for nothing as well, they will want to get some sort of compensation.

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August 30, 2023, 08:38:27 PM
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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

This could result with him going to Warriors if he wants to, and Warriors could trade some players away to make some cap space but to be fair they do not have much. Not like Giannis will accept just bare minimum salary and just go there, vet min for him would be very tiny, he could keep on making a lot more than that. I think he is capable of getting even more than Jalen Brown at this point so it should be important for him to stay.
If Giannis does leave the Bucks whatever team he goes to will make him the highest paid player currently. Unless it really is all about championships he might take a team friendly deal that puts him on a team with a good shot at winning, but he will still get paid very well. He's not going to join a team for 20 million a year is all i'm saying. I cannot really see the Bucks letting him go for nothing as well, they will want to get some sort of compensation.

And it's possible that he is also looking for a huge paycheck, Brown from Boston Celtics has sign a whopping five-year, $304 million supermax extension. Maybe he can bargain higher with the Bucks once his contract expires.

Doubt as well that Warriors can give him that money because they have a lot of superstars already. Or if Giannis is not looking for money and just another championship, then he had to have a huge paycut in order to join GSW.
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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

Most probably yeah! Giannis already expressed that he wants to be on a team that could give him additional rings and he will not be staying with the Bucks if he couldn't win one anymore. So, the Warriors will be a perfect spot for him in his free agency. NBA fans are actually looking forward to this and the Bucks not gonna be the same anymore if Giannis leave, well not unless if they can make a significant improvement with the team next season.

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August 30, 2023, 09:15:05 PM
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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

This could result with him going to Warriors if he wants to, and Warriors could trade some players away to make some cap space but to be fair they do not have much. Not like Giannis will accept just bare minimum salary and just go there, vet min for him would be very tiny, he could keep on making a lot more than that. I think he is capable of getting even more than Jalen Brown at this point so it should be important for him to stay.
If Giannis does leave the Bucks whatever team he goes to will make him the highest paid player currently. Unless it really is all about championships he might take a team friendly deal that puts him on a team with a good shot at winning, but he will still get paid very well. He's not going to join a team for 20 million a year is all i'm saying. I cannot really see the Bucks letting him go for nothing as well, they will want to get some sort of compensation.

He can't be the highest paid player unless he stay with The Bucks though, since your current team is able to offer a significantly more amount of money that ant other team can.  Otherwise he's simply capped out and will get the same max contract as any other top player signing a deal this coming year, or any other year for that matter. ( Unless things have changed salary cap wise)

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I hadn’t heard details about the Eric Lewis referee drama so I guess the NBA did a good job keeping it under wraps. However, it appears Eric Lewis has now “retired” after the NBA reviewed his social media accounts, so one can only imagine what it is he did. One thing is for sure though, his retirement wasn’t optional for him.

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August 30, 2023, 09:55:11 PM
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I would guess that the only way Giannis could go to Warriors would be as a free agent, considering he has just one year left on his contract and by the looks of it Bucks are not getting any better, so he could leave for free and that means we are going to end up seeing Giannis as a free agent.

Most probably yeah! Giannis already expressed that he wants to be on a team that could give him additional rings and he will not be staying with the Bucks if he couldn't win one anymore. So, the Warriors will be a perfect spot for him in his free agency. NBA fans are actually looking forward to this and the Bucks not gonna be the same anymore if Giannis leave, well not unless if they can make a significant improvement with the team next season.
I wonder how the Bucks are feeling with that thought from their star player who has been honed on their wing. But anyway, change is really going to happen no matter what and this is employment for Giannis and has that goal of having more rings on his career run. If he goes into free agent, and he really wants to get into the Warriors, then no one can stop that transfer of having a new home. Maybe it won't change for now but I think that there could still be some changes that we don't know could happen whether Giannis leaves or stays. We also have to wait until his contract ends with the Bucks.

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Most probably yeah! Giannis already expressed that he wants to be on a team that could give him additional rings and he will not be staying with the Bucks if he couldn't win one anymore. So, the Warriors will be a perfect spot for him in his free agency. NBA fans are actually looking forward to this and the Bucks not gonna be the same anymore if Giannis leave, well not unless if they can make a significant improvement with the team next season.

Long way to go and for sure, there might be a change of decision depending on where the Milwaukee Bucks will end up next season. If able to compete again for the Finals and let's say Milwaukee Bucks is able to get into the championship list, an extension is sure guarantee to happen for Giannis.

Giannis will enter free agency after the 2024-25 season and along the way, there will be lots of happenings that can change his mind.

Too early to discuss his future with the Bucks but the fact that he opened up something about being departed from the team, the Bucks have to do something.
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I hadn’t heard details about the Eric Lewis referee drama so I guess the NBA did a good job keeping it under wraps. However, it appears Eric Lewis has now “retired” after the NBA reviewed his social media accounts, so one can only imagine what it is he did. One thing is for sure though, his retirement wasn’t optional for him.

Yeah, graceful exit for him, although he has been investigated already and if they found him guilty, then we don't know what will be the disciplinary actions for him. But it seems for me though, he was either force to retired after 19 years, or retiring for a good exit with his name intact although it could also be a sign that he is guilty.

For those who are are not familiar, he is one referee that is very controversial, I mean his call specially against the Lakers. And then he was accused of having a burner account in Twitter to defend himself, or other referees for that matter.

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August 31, 2023, 05:44:14 AM
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If Giannis does leave the Bucks whatever team he goes to will make him the highest paid player currently. Unless it really is all about championships he might take a team friendly deal that puts him on a team with a good shot at winning, but he will still get paid very well. He's not going to join a team for 20 million a year is all i'm saying. I cannot really see the Bucks letting him go for nothing as well, they will want to get some sort of compensation.
I don't think so too.
And if it's for a championship I think he will be paid more. He will not be like the James Harden type who will sacrifice his own salary for a championship or the better of a team, and besides that, he has one ring already. So being a champion will make him pricy and the experience of being there adds up.
But, I still cannot imagine Giannis being in a new uniform, it will either be an eyesore or a good one for him.
I hadn’t heard details about the Eric Lewis referee drama so I guess the NBA did a good job keeping it under wraps. However, it appears Eric Lewis has now “retired” after the NBA reviewed his social media accounts, so one can only imagine what it is he did. One thing is for sure though, his retirement wasn’t optional for him.
I was reading it just now.
Yeah, if someone retires, let what happens in Vegas stay in Vegas. Grin This time the NBA.
I think he was an official on that lay-up by Lebron James where Tatum was supposed to be called for a foul but they missed it. And it went further after Beverley showed the replay on his camera calling a technical foul.

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August 31, 2023, 05:48:51 AM
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That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.
You're leaning towards the loyalty of a player thus, you see this one as disappointing, eh?

There are certain players who value loyalty over championship, and there are some who value championship over loyalty. Giannis falls on the 2nd one, and there's nothing wrong with it. The perfect example with this is Durant back when the Thunder are up 3-1, and then they still lost to the Warriors. The next season they joined Steph, and Klay to build that OP team. What's the reason? To get a title, and Giannis is almost the same. If he feels that he can't a 2nd title in Milwaukee then what's the reason for him to stay there? He values titles more than loyalty.
It's not about loyalty. I wasn't even thinking about that. My disappointment would come from the concentration of top talents in only a few teams. You mentioned Durant so let me use him as an example too. I think joining GSW and forming the "splash family" back then should never be replicated. Great job for getting the ring that he was chasing but that move eventually made the league quite predictable and boring.
Well, I also hate that move by the Warriors as well because that killed the competition big time, but on the other hand, the Warriors have the cap space in signing him, and at the same time Durant is a free agent at that time thus, it's a perfect recipe for an acquisition. I'll say again that I'm a Warrior fan at that time, but I hated teams killing the competition.

With regards to the concentration of top talents in only a few teams, I believe that many superstars right now value the championship over loyalty. Title will be forever in their NBA career, but loyalty? Some might forget them that they stayed in the same team for many years. The only popular superstars that I know who stayed in the same team for decades are Kobe Bryant, and Nowitzki. I feel your disappointment, but I can't blame those superstars if that's what they wanted. If they care more about the titles than the loyalty then so be it, and vice versa.

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August 31, 2023, 06:49:40 AM
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Most probably yeah! Giannis already expressed that he wants to be on a team that could give him additional rings and he will not be staying with the Bucks if he couldn't win one anymore. So, the Warriors will be a perfect spot for him in his free agency. NBA fans are actually looking forward to this and the Bucks not gonna be the same anymore if Giannis leave, well not unless if they can make a significant improvement with the team next season.
Long way to go and for sure, there might be a change of decision depending on where the Milwaukee Bucks will end up next season. If able to compete again for the Finals and let's say Milwaukee Bucks is able to get into the championship list, an extension is sure guarantee to happen for Giannis.

Giannis will enter free agency after the 2024-25 season and along the way, there will be lots of happenings that can change his mind.

Too early to discuss his future with the Bucks but the fact that he opened up something about being departed from the team, the Bucks have to do something.
That would only mean one thing, they'll not get a ring this year and for sure Giannis will leave. The thing is, he is the one that decides it and it's on the management if they'll pick the right guys around him or not and that's the crucial thing they should do. I wouldn't imagine another franchise face for the Bucks but it is what it is.
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August 31, 2023, 07:41:45 AM
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Most probably yeah! Giannis already expressed that he wants to be on a team that could give him additional rings and he will not be staying with the Bucks if he couldn't win one anymore. So, the Warriors will be a perfect spot for him in his free agency. NBA fans are actually looking forward to this and the Bucks not gonna be the same anymore if Giannis leave, well not unless if they can make a significant improvement with the team next season.
Giannis Antetokounmpo is popular in NBA game after he leaded the Bucks to Championship finals wining and around the globe. He's popularly known as the Greek Freak in the game. Milwaukee Bucks should do everything within their reach to retained the top-notch player in the club, because it would be hugh loss if he moves out. Giannis only wants titles and winning rings would be the appropriate credits he deserved, furthermore the team should signed more important players that will aides in enhancing and strengthening the club interms of performance on the court.

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