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December 19, 2023, 08:31:59 PM
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Draymond had that bad reputation already so he was targeted, and the fact that he could eaisly react, do some stupid things, I think he has been a part of the startegy of their opponents in order to win. Yes, there are players who started to provoke Draymond in a safest way because they know how high tempered he is, but you know man, there's this what we called as "acting skills", in the NBA, Draymond doesn't have that, he's so real.

I agree, that Draymond Green is so genuine that he can not control his anger he needs to control that anger issue of his because it will surely cause the team success with their defense as Draymond Green is the provider of great defense but his contribution to the team is not just defense but surely he also contributed to the Warriors mighty offensive play, as he is not getting great points in his previous plays, but those dirty plays on Draymond Green will surely continue and now the team knows of the Golden State Warriors weakness to Draymond Green other teams will surely exploit that,


So there's always the two sides of the story but it was just seen when Draymond Green is the one that seems to be the bad guy. I didn't know the other incidents that been done by him but it's true that these fines won't stop him.

I think that he should just stop being like that. It's an attitude problem that's gonna be hard to remove. Whoever goes first is a matter of fact but the actions that he also does doesn't make him a protector of his mates.

He's way just too physical and if there will be no heavier fines, this time, it's time for him to just stop being too aggressive with any contacts that's been done to him or to any of his teammates. Sometimes it's just too overreacting, maybe him or us fans.

There are always 2 sides to the story, but apparently Draymond Green is not the type of person to just sit idly and do nothing well, Draymond Green is a man of action and he will not let that one slide that is for sure, but maybe you are right if he can control himself and not retaliates I think the other team or that particular player will not make a move that make him pissed, because maybe the other teams really know that Draymond Green is quick to explode as this is going to be a bad day for the Warriors play if they try to eject him,

^^ I think the media hates James Harden. Remember the video circulating online that telling James Harden is the problem and not the System.
Big win for the Clippers last game! 8 game win streak. These 4 All stars hopefully help and lead the team to their first championship. Great game for Harden, taking over the 4th quarter in just a few minutes. They've been up big already and I love their mentality now. I'm noticing their style with a barrage of offense from the 1st to the 3rd until Kawhi doesn't need to return in the 4th. Harden usually takes over as well as Powell and PG. Only injury will ruin again this momentum.

Right now the Los Angeles Clippers are on their 8-winning streak, after their close game loss against the Golden State Warriors, it seems that they are doing quite well and that 4 legendary players are taking their quality play to the table I just noticed that they are using Russell Westbrook with just a short time only I think for a couple of games now, but I think they are just probably using him in their rotation,

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December 19, 2023, 10:46:04 PM
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Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

I mean they just won against one of the best offensive teams right now in the league Indiana Pacers, and they're currently on an 8 game winning streak. They have a record of 13-2 in their last 15 games, and right now, they are in the top 5 in terms of defense, and offense which is quite rare nowadays. Everybody is talking about Harden and his acquisition, but aside from that, there are 3 reasons that I think the Clippers are playing better right now.

1. Westbrook's adjustment from being a starter to now a bench player. For me, this is the main reason why they're playing better now. 2 ball handlers can't be playing together at the same time, and it's a good thing that he adjusted for the betterment of the team. Now he's mentoring those young players, and he's willing to adjust if that means winning the title... or will they? Cheesy
2. Kawhi and PG are more healthy than they are. F*ck the load management. Now they're playing better already. Kawhi didn't miss any game while PG missed only 1 game. Now look where they are right now. They're better, and I just hope that either one of them will not get injured when the playoff comes.
3. Harden is back to his old self. I believe Harden is starting to come back to his old self already. Not the Harden when he's in the Rockets where he's a scorer, but the Harden we used to see when he was at Brooklyn, and Philly. The passer-type Harden and this is a good thing for the Clippers.

The chemistry is starting to build up already, and we've seen it in their past games. The only question right now is will they sustain this type of performance until the end of the season? If they will play like this all throughout the whole season, I believe they will be at the top 4 at least. Smiley

They have always been second fiddle.  It's like the Mets and Yankees.  No matter how good the Mets are they don't get a lot of air time because everything equates ny baseball with the yankees.  Same thing with the clips and Lakers.  Knicks just played both, got blown put by the Clippers and handled the Lakers.  2 completely different vibes in the stadium even though they play on the same court. 

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December 19, 2023, 11:28:29 PM
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Kenneth Lofton Jr. waived by the Grizzlies to give Ja space for his come back. While the Lakers seemingly shows interest on taking him.

What do you think is the future of this kid? He doesn't average a lot in terms of points but there's always room for improvement to this kid.

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December 19, 2023, 11:42:51 PM
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BTW, we have the Warriors hosting the Celtics tomorrow, I'm guessing, Warriors will lose.  Grin

I don't have to think on what team to bet as I like the Celtics on this. The Warriors are in a win streak, back at home hosting the hottest team now in the East, so I would back on the better team there. The Warriors will now be tested if they can still win against a strong team despite missing Draymond Green, so I guess it's no brainer than the Celtics will win.

If you are betting, the spread now is -5.5 for the Cetlics, quite high on the road but this Celtics team is capable of bringing a double digit win.

I already have the Celtics at the handicap beat. Definitely with how the Celtics are blending, there chances to defeat are very high. While the Warriors is a good team with Curry, but they are build different now. I mean Klay still struggling and so is Andrew Wiggins, not sure why the Warriors are moving like this, maybe their age as really catching up with them.

Ja Morant is back, so we will see if he still has that swagger to help his team to go back to their form. Might take some games for him though to adjust as their number 1 offensive player. 13th spot on the West, losing record of 6-19, losing 5 straight games. Let's see how he will turn around this team.

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December 19, 2023, 11:47:26 PM
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So there's always the two sides of the story but it was just seen when Draymond Green is the one that seems to be the bad guy. I didn't know the other incidents that been done by him but it's true that these fines won't stop him.

I think that he should just stop being like that. It's an attitude problem that's gonna be hard to remove. Whoever goes first is a matter of fact but the actions that he also does doesn't make him a protector of his mates.

He's way just too physical and if there will be no heavier fines, this time, it's time for him to just stop being too aggressive with any contacts that's been done to him or to any of his teammates. Sometimes it's just too overreacting, maybe him or us fans.

There are always 2 sides to the story, but apparently Draymond Green is not the type of person to just sit idly and do nothing well, Draymond Green is a man of action and he will not let that one slide that is for sure, but maybe you are right if he can control himself and not retaliates I think the other team or that particular player will not make a move that make him pissed, because maybe the other teams really know that Draymond Green is quick to explode as this is going to be a bad day for the Warriors play if they try to eject him,
Well, this can even be a tactic let's say that they go to the finals.

The opposing team will just have to piss him off and they're all good to go and there goes one of their key players is gone out of the game indefinitely.

That's why he just need to calm down as well, whether he's a man of action and won't sit around tolerating things. He has to weigh things no matter what the situation is.

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December 19, 2023, 11:53:00 PM
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Many here are talking about the Warriors and other teams, but no one is talking about how the Clippers are playing right now.
Why is that?

I mean they just won against one of the best offensive teams right now in the league Indiana Pacers, and they're currently on an 8 game winning streak. They have a record of 13-2 in their last 15 games, and right now, they are in the top 5 in terms of defense, and offense which is quite rare nowadays. Everybody is talking about Harden and his acquisition, but aside from that, there are 3 reasons that I think the Clippers are playing better right now.

1. Westbrook's adjustment from being a starter to now a bench player. For me, this is the main reason why they're playing better now. 2 ball handlers can't be playing together at the same time, and it's a good thing that he adjusted for the betterment of the team. Now he's mentoring those young players, and he's willing to adjust if that means winning the title... or will they? Cheesy
2. Kawhi and PG are more healthy than they are. F*ck the load management. Now they're playing better already. Kawhi didn't miss any game while PG missed only 1 game. Now look where they are right now. They're better, and I just hope that either one of them will not get injured when the playoff comes.
3. Harden is back to his old self. I believe Harden is starting to come back to his old self already. Not the Harden when he's in the Rockets where he's a scorer, but the Harden we used to see when he was at Brooklyn, and Philly. The passer-type Harden and this is a good thing for the Clippers.

The chemistry is starting to build up already, and we've seen it in their past games. The only question right now is will they sustain this type of performance until the end of the season? If they will play like this all throughout the whole season, I believe they will be at the top 4 at least. Smiley

On the NBA betting thread, I highlighted this LA Clippers team because I had been winning in most of my bets for them. Cheesy I thought Ty Lue's rotation was not good at first but he may have a secret strategy behind all of it. He paired Westbrook with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George with James Harden and as much as possible they will only play with each other the whole game. Little did we know, he was trying to build chemistry for those pairs because Kawhi had never played with WB and Harden with PG13.
History base, Harden already played with WB at OKC Thunder and Rockets, PG13 with WB on the same team. So Coach Lue didn't have a problem with WB so he put him on restricted minutes and then as a bench player and WB happily accepted that which also made their team stronger because he was ready to step back.
Now WB is playing below 20 minutes and yet they are successfully winning in a streak. Every time he comes in, he won't waste any minute both defensively and offensively and his stats definitely show that. The better part of it is the turnovers got lesser with Harden handling the ball.
I think Coach Lue made a successful experiment with his star players.

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December 20, 2023, 12:11:53 AM
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I never really liked westbrook, even during his years when he averaged triple double, which I agree that was a big feat and a great achievement, I always thought that the entire team was designed to get him those stats and they didn't care about winning at all, they didn't look like they were winning any games at all, they just let him get the stats. Now that he is out and everyone knows he is not that great player, I feel even better about not liking him. You may think its great that Kawhi and PG13 are not doing any load management, but if they get some injury and close the season early, I can sense what the look for Clippers will be. I have zero hopes for them, they look terrible.

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Ja Morant is finally back and he did it with an awesome display of what he is capable of doing. In his return to the Grizzlies, Ja Morant led the way as they came back strong from 24 points down to beat the Pelicans, 115-113. What made the return more exceptional was when Morant made the buzzer shot to close the match.

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Ja Morant is finally back and he did it with an awesome display of what he is capable of doing. In his return to the Grizzlies, Ja Morant led the way as they came back strong from 24 points down to beat the Pelicans, 115-113. What made the return more exceptional was when Morant made the buzzer shot to close the match.

The Memphis Grizzlies have 56 more matches left to play this season. The arrival of Morant could be late for them but if they can win 36 of those matches then they have a case to join the other playoff teams.
Poor defense by Pelicans. Anyway hopefully Ja Morant learned a lesson from that 25 games suspension and will start taking care his career more seriously! With him back in the league, the NBA will be more exciting and entertaining to watch. Hopefully, in the next game he can reduce his turnovers since in his season debut he had 5 turnovers. But still it was a great performance with a buzzer beater in the comeback appearance and season debut. Still hoping Memphis can make playoffs this season.

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December 20, 2023, 07:13:41 AM
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Ja Morant is finally back and he did it with an awesome display of what he is capable of doing. In his return to the Grizzlies, Ja Morant led the way as they came back strong from 24 points down to beat the Pelicans, 115-113. What made the return more exceptional was when Morant made the buzzer shot to close the match.

The Memphis Grizzlies have 56 more matches left to play this season. The arrival of Morant could be late for them but if they can win 36 of those matches then they have a case to join the other playoff teams.
Poor defense by Pelicans. Anyway hopefully Ja Morant learned a lesson from that 25 games suspension and will start taking care his career more seriously! With him back in the league, the NBA will be more exciting and entertaining to watch. Hopefully, in the next game he can reduce his turnovers since in his season debut he had 5 turnovers. But still it was a great performance with a buzzer beater in the comeback appearance and season debut. Still hoping Memphis can make playoffs this season.
Let's forget about that turnover; most didn't expect him to have a great performance in his first game due to chemistry issues. If you look at the first half, it was apparent that this team wasn't going to win. However, in the second half, it was surprising to see them come back and even beat the Pelicans.

For a player who missed a lot of games and came back as the top scorer with 34 points and a high shooting percentage, that's truly impressive. Ja Morant's performance proves that he is the one and only superstar of the team. And as we have seen before, without him, the team struggles, but now they're back to looking like a playoff team.

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Detroit Pistons is near to break the record for longest winning streak. Last 2 loss game for being tie on number 1 spot and last 3 games to claim the title solo. I’m not watching frequently NBA matches these days but I always check Piston progress for their record.

I will not be surprised if they beat number 1 seed like Boston and Wolves to stop their streak because I watch many games in the past that records being broke by the least expected team.

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Jazz vs Piston tomorrow! Time to -10.5 for Jazz.  Cheesy

You are a little bit early, there's no game for Pistons tomorrow but Jazz will be playing against the Cavaliers and they are +6.5.

Speaking of Jazz, I heard some rumors that Clarkson is already on the trading block, do you have any thoughts on what team he'll end up playing?
As per comments I read in social media, these are the following teams the fans would want to see Clarkson to play win.

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Detroit Pistons is near to break the record for longest winning streak. Last 2 loss game for being tie on number 1 spot and last 3 games to claim the title solo. I’m not watching frequently NBA matches these days but I always check Piston progress for their record.
They are enjoying their losing streak now as they are bound to make a history.

Detroit has lost its competitiveness as majority of the games they lose is via huge margin, they can't win like that. It would be okay if they lose by 3-5 points as there's still a chance they would improve and win. It's hard to predict which team they'll beat to stop their losing steak, however, I think they have a chance if they'll play a team that are on continues games and that their opponent will be tired due to fatigue factor.


I will not be surprised if they beat number 1 seed like Boston and Wolves to stop their streak because I watch many games in the past that records being broke by the least expected team.
With fatigue factor which is a disadvantage, it could hit any team, even teams at the top of the ranking.

Jazz vs Piston tomorrow! Time to -10.5 for Jazz.  Cheesy

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Ja Morant is finally back and he did it with an awesome display of what he is capable of doing. In his return to the Grizzlies, Ja Morant led the way as they came back strong from 24 points down to beat the Pelicans, 115-113. What made the return more exceptional was when Morant made the buzzer shot to close the match.

The Memphis Grizzlies have 56 more matches left to play this season. The arrival of Morant could be late for them but if they can win 36 of those matches then they have a case to join the other playoff teams.

Yeah, he is back, but in the beginning the Memphis was shooting very bad, first two quarters that I thought that they are going to lost this one. Zion though in foul trouble early and it might help the Memphis to have a good run in the 3rd.

But in the 4th is was a total Memphis team. Ja took over as if he is not suspended and that drive and acrobatic shots never ceases to amaze NBA fans.

No one to blame but the Pels here, they know who is going to get the ball but still failed to cover and allowing Morant to make his 1:1.

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No one to blame but the Pels here, they know who is going to get the ball but still failed to cover and allowing Morant to make his 1:1.

Pelicans are just playing through their system, mistake here is they didn't make the right adjustment. They seemed to underestimate Morant, probably thinking the player is not 100% yet as he missed plenty of games which is expected to be not in rthymt yet once he comes back. And because of that, it cost them one game because they were suppose to win the game already but they didn't play harder when the Memphis already have a big run.

This season, Zion looked to be healthy and not prone to injury but his numbers are inconsistent, that still has a negative impact on the team given he played heavy minutes.

as we can see below, his averaged really dropped singificantly.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willizi01.html

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December 20, 2023, 11:44:30 AM
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BTW, we have the Warriors hosting the Celtics tomorrow, I'm guessing, Warriors will lose.  Grin

I don't have to think on what team to bet as I like the Celtics on this. The Warriors are in a win streak, back at home hosting the hottest team now in the East, so I would back on the better team there. The Warriors will now be tested if they can still win against a strong team despite missing Draymond Green, so I guess it's no brainer than the Celtics will win.

If you are betting, the spread now is -5.5 for the Cetlics, quite high on the road but this Celtics team is capable of bringing a double digit win.

I already have the Celtics at the handicap beat. Definitely with how the Celtics are blending, there chances to defeat are very high. While the Warriors is a good team with Curry, but they are build different now. I mean Klay still struggling and so is Andrew Wiggins, not sure why the Warriors are moving like this, maybe their age as really catching up with them.

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-4 was the only spread I can think of because it's a home game for the Warriors although I am confident Boston will win. What a disappointing game for the Celtics. They blow a nearly 20-point lead. The 4th quarter and the OT was a game of experience and heart. Steph showed his greatness and is a hell of a clutch. As the commentators are saying, the Celtics should've driven the ball and made the tougher layups rather than just take shots from the outside. Tatum and Brown aren't the Splash brothers and they are better when using their strengths and physical advantages.

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December 20, 2023, 11:54:37 AM
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Tatum and Brown aren't the Splash brothers and they are better when using their strengths and physical advantages.

That's why they'll never win a championship because their best player which is Tatum isn't as clutch as Curry. This was suppose to be the time where Tatum have to showed up his skills, but he only score 15 points here and had struggle with his shooting. I think for now, the most consistent on the team which is also the most underrated is only White, Brown and Tatum may struggle at times especially against a tougher opponents, and on the road.

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December 20, 2023, 12:05:22 PM
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Detroit Pistons is near to break the record for longest winning streak. Last 2 loss game for being tie on number 1 spot and last 3 games to claim the title solo. I’m not watching frequently NBA matches these days but I always check Piston progress for their record.

I will not be surprised if they beat number 1 seed like Boston and Wolves to stop their streak because I watch many games in the past that records being broke by the least expected team.

Jazz vs Piston tomorrow! Time to -10.5 for Jazz.  Cheesy

It's worth noting that the Pistons were really close to breaking their long losing streak in the last game vs. the Hawks. Unfortunately for them, they were unlucky again, and even Cunningham's 43 points weren't enough to beat the Hawks. Facepalm.
Anyway, it will be interesting to watch how the Pistons players perform in the next game, as the Jazz are a weak enough team to be the perfect opponent for the Pistons.

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December 20, 2023, 12:21:04 PM
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I will not be surprised if they beat number 1 seed like Boston and Wolves to stop their streak because I watch many games in the past that records being broke by the least expected team.
With fatigue factor which is a disadvantage, it could hit any team, even teams at the top of the ranking.

Fatigue factor is only possible to equate if the coach failed to rotate his players properly so this not the biggest issue to consider on basketball but rather the shooting accuracy of players on that game.

It's worth noting that the Pistons were really close to breaking their long losing streak in the last game vs. the Hawks. Unfortunately for them, they were unlucky again, and even Cunningham's 43 points weren't enough to beat the Hawks. Facepalm.
Anyway, it will be interesting to watch how the Pistons players perform in the next game, as the Jazz are a weak enough team to be the perfect opponent for the Pistons.

They usually have an issue on end game because they always losing on the last quarter while they can have a close matchup during early quarters. They have an issue with bench players which can’t cover to starters to give a break.

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December 20, 2023, 12:27:51 PM
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Fatigue factor is only possible to equate if the coach failed to rotate his players properly so this not the biggest issue to consider on basketball but rather the shooting accuracy of players on that game.


Even if the coach would rotate the players properly, there's still that fatigue factor that would happen. For example, the Lakers are playing 3 games in 4 days, we can presume that fatigue factor might hit them. Additionally, they are more tired if a game would go overtime as that means extra effort.

Players movement doesn't necessarily moving all the players in the team, that's why there's what we called starters because they are the ones that gains heavier minutes, so they'll likely get more tired than the 2nd unit or the reserves.

What would happen, if the starters are tired, they will be rested and the 2nd unit will play the team that are well rested, which gives the well rested team an edge.

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