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Author Topic: [ANN] Ħ [HODL] No Staking, 1% Standard Interest per Day, 750% APR For HOdlers  (Read 472921 times)
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July 06, 2016, 06:47:33 PM
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Fixed in Nature

The POW Algorithm considered a technical detail and is subject to change to favor CPU and consumer grade hardware with the intention of keeping mining participatory and distributed.

ALL OTHER PARAMETERS ARE SET IN STONE. There will be no changes to mining subsidies, interest rates, distribution etc.


After I read the above forced change by bag-hodlers to screw over miners, maybe the OP should change this inaccurate section of the OP.
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July 06, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
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Fixed in Nature

The POW Algorithm considered a technical detail and is subject to change to favor CPU and consumer grade hardware with the intention of keeping mining participatory and distributed.

ALL OTHER PARAMETERS ARE SET IN STONE. There will be no changes to mining subsidies, interest rates, distribution etc.


After I read the above forced change by bag-hodlers to screw over miners, maybe the OP should change this inaccurate section of the OP.

I suppose we could vote on it, wait, that's how we got here in the first place.

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July 07, 2016, 12:25:00 AM
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How can I unlock this?
https://i.imgur.com/ugHIhzq.png

Send the coins to yourself.
That should fix the "problem" Wink
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July 07, 2016, 12:32:18 AM
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Fixed in Nature

The POW Algorithm considered a technical detail and is subject to change to favor CPU and consumer grade hardware with the intention of keeping mining participatory and distributed.

ALL OTHER PARAMETERS ARE SET IN STONE. There will be no changes to mining subsidies, interest rates, distribution etc.


After I read the above forced change by bag-hodlers to screw over miners, maybe the OP should change this inaccurate section of the OP.

Agreed.

I know right, when you look at the features & graphs, etc and the new fork of HODL doesn't even reflect the info shown in great detail of the old version.

You need to fix it if you want to inform newcomers of the changes & don't give them false hope.

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July 07, 2016, 12:50:41 AM
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seeing impressive movement from yobit good volume and healthy trade thanks dev just keep it up so those who invest will be guarantee to have some profits after they finished the 12 months stake, i hope price will continuously rise up from time to time.
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July 07, 2016, 03:53:39 AM
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seeing impressive movement from yobit good volume and healthy trade thanks dev just keep it up so those who invest will be guarantee to have some profits after they finished the 12 months stake, i hope price will continuously rise up from time to time.

And yet it won't continue to rise. As more 6 and 12 month terms come up, you can be sure most of the big bag hodlers who voted to kill the coin by ending mining will dump immediately.
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July 07, 2016, 04:16:46 AM
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Ok, changes made to ANN to remove 'fixed in nature' section.

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July 07, 2016, 04:18:51 AM
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by my count just now, there is over 230K of quite dubious looking "anonymous" hash on the pools.
and there has always been volume moving on the exchanges.
ever since alcurex first listed the coin.
so roll on next weekend.
and let's hope we will be saying "au revoir" to those pool miners that have been unfairly mining and dumping HOdl -
day in, and day out. - making us all depressed! and worried!
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"Unfair" just because you don't have the resources to mine yourself? I very much doubt botnet owners are messing with this coin at volume, if there is a total net hash rate of <400k. That is less than 400 dual-cpu e5 systems, and less than 1000 average home PCs.

Anyone who said you are moving to another CPU coin after 86000, can you make a suggestion? Is XMR the next best once HODL dies? OR are there other good CPU-only right now?


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Ok, changes made to ANN to remove 'fixed in nature' section.

SMH...you missed the entire point. You violated a hard and fast rule set forth at the inception of the coin. That is a death sentence for any coin.
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July 07, 2016, 04:30:21 AM
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I've a motion that I'd like HOdler's input on -

http://nutocracy.herokuapp.com/arguments/that-an-open-source-gpu-solo-miner-would-be-a-welcome-development

Previously I hadn't encouraged the development of a GPU miner software as my judgement was that GPU miners would likely be dumpers. Now that miners will be required to be HOdlers, I think a GPU miner would be a welcome development as it will help to raise the network hashrate in the absence of pool dumpers. Please vote your views on this issue. The motion is advisory in nature.

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July 07, 2016, 04:33:27 AM
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If the majority votes to roll back the hodl requirement, will you undo this change in the future?
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July 07, 2016, 05:35:22 AM
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I've a motion that I'd like HOdler's input on -

http://nutocracy.herokuapp.com/arguments/that-an-open-source-gpu-solo-miner-would-be-a-welcome-development

Previously I hadn't encouraged the development of a GPU miner software as my judgement was that GPU miners would likely be dumpers. Now that miners will be required to be HOdlers, I think a GPU miner would be a welcome development as it will help to raise the network hashrate in the absence of pool dumpers. Please vote your views on this issue. The motion is advisory in nature.

makes sence, hodled "Aye!"  Smiley

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July 07, 2016, 06:07:50 AM
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I've a motion that I'd like HOdler's input on -

http://nutocracy.herokuapp.com/arguments/that-an-open-source-gpu-solo-miner-would-be-a-welcome-development

Previously I hadn't encouraged the development of a GPU miner software as my judgement was that GPU miners would likely be dumpers. Now that miners will be required to be HOdlers, I think a GPU miner would be a welcome development as it will help to raise the network hashrate in the absence of pool dumpers. Please vote your views on this issue. The motion is advisory in nature.

makes sence, hodled "Aye!"  Smiley

I don't think I'm going to vote anymore.  All these decisions are being steamrolled one way or the other by the top hodlers.  My vote means nothing up against someone with 20 times the voting power that I have so what's the point?

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July 07, 2016, 06:28:05 AM
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I've a motion that I'd like HOdler's input on -

http://nutocracy.herokuapp.com/arguments/that-an-open-source-gpu-solo-miner-would-be-a-welcome-development

Previously I hadn't encouraged the development of a GPU miner software as my judgement was that GPU miners would likely be dumpers. Now that miners will be required to be HOdlers, I think a GPU miner would be a welcome development as it will help to raise the network hashrate in the absence of pool dumpers. Please vote your views on this issue. The motion is advisory in nature.

makes sence, hodled "Aye!"  Smiley

I don't think I'm going to vote anymore.  All these decisions are being steamrolled one way or the other by the top hodlers.  My vote means nothing up against someone with 20 times the voting power that I have so what's the point?

Well, than again, someone who has 20x voting power also has 20x higher risk when something goes wrong. Did you think of it that way?

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July 07, 2016, 07:12:14 AM
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I've a motion that I'd like HOdler's input on -

http://nutocracy.herokuapp.com/arguments/that-an-open-source-gpu-solo-miner-would-be-a-welcome-development

Previously I hadn't encouraged the development of a GPU miner software as my judgement was that GPU miners would likely be dumpers. Now that miners will be required to be HOdlers, I think a GPU miner would be a welcome development as it will help to raise the network hashrate in the absence of pool dumpers. Please vote your views on this issue. The motion is advisory in nature.

makes sence, hodled "Aye!"  Smiley

I don't think I'm going to vote anymore.  All these decisions are being steamrolled one way or the other by the top hodlers.  My vote means nothing up against someone with 20 times the voting power that I have so what's the point?

There's no other reliable way to do it. However, voting is only part of a Nutocracy, active discussion and debate is vital too. I think the course of the recent fork was steered significantly by discussion from a drastic cut in block rewards to hodling block rewards. It might be for smaller hodlers that they have greater impact through influence and persuasion of larger hodlers.

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July 07, 2016, 09:08:32 AM
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if you make everyone use the wallet to mine, at least add automatic throttling to it so it wont overload the system, both wolfs miner and joblos miner did this and it was awesome

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July 07, 2016, 09:13:51 AM
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Something idea for the next update. It will be nice if I can click term deposit list on some order, days, block, value, etc you know what I mean Smiley
this would be a really nice feature

I am CPU mining Aquachain right now. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3138231
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July 07, 2016, 09:31:55 AM
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if you make everyone use the wallet to mine, at least add automatic throttling to it so it wont overload the system, both wolfs miner and joblos miner did this and it was awesome

@freetrade

Okay - added as an enhancement request -

https://github.com/HOdlcoin/HOdlcoin/issues/66

For now, command line options can be used to set the thread number.

HOdlings sorting is an existing enhancement request - but it's not as straightforward to implement as you would think.

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July 07, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
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There has to be a bright spot to all this...well, I can go on vacation and anything I mine while i'm gone will HOdl automatically....yeah, not much of a bright spot.

ok, so can someone tell me how I avoid having to have multiple wallets on multiple machines in multiple locations?  without mining to a pool that may or may not be there in a year when they can send me my coins?  I'd like to keep this all on one wallet address (something which is not a problem now mining to the pools).  Would it be possible to do this if I set up my own pool just for my machines?  And if so, how in the world do I do that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1383479.msg14073859#msg14073859

Excellent thank you.  I'll give this a shot.

4 machines have been dedicated to this setup to see if it is working correctly.  No machine with 2.0 has found a block.  Is anyone else doing this (multiple machines mining to the same wallet address using 2.0 and a .bat file to specify address and threads, machines are not on the same network) that can confirm it is working?  I would love to know that I'm not wasting my time.

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July 07, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
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There has to be a bright spot to all this...well, I can go on vacation and anything I mine while i'm gone will HOdl automatically....yeah, not much of a bright spot.

ok, so can someone tell me how I avoid having to have multiple wallets on multiple machines in multiple locations?  without mining to a pool that may or may not be there in a year when they can send me my coins?  I'd like to keep this all on one wallet address (something which is not a problem now mining to the pools).  Would it be possible to do this if I set up my own pool just for my machines?  And if so, how in the world do I do that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1383479.msg14073859#msg14073859

Excellent thank you.  I'll give this a shot.

4 machines have been dedicated to this setup to see if it is working correctly.  No machine with 2.0 has found a block.  Is anyone else doing this (multiple machines mining to the same wallet address using 2.0 and a .bat file to specify address and threads, machines are not on the same network) that can confirm it is working?  I would love to know that I'm not wasting my time.

Is it possible to change the RAM usage on a windows wallet, if so how?



If you missed it and don't feel like reading through the thread to use -miningaddress="address" and or optimize your miner see below

1. Make sure your wallet is closed

2. Make sure your Hodlcoin-qt.exe is on your Desktop

3. Bring up Run (Press [Window] + [R] on your keyboard)

4. Paste below in Run
%userprofile%\Desktop\HOdlcoin-qt.exe  -gen=1 -minermemory=2 -genproclimit=4 -miningaddress="address"

*Note put your address in place of "address" like this "HEX8QLWqQ7p7MFNiN8CMrMjC2CYAy8pwi9"
**Note minermemory should be "1" or "2" on windows any higher and you ger a Runtime error
***Note minermemory is the amount of Ram your using and must be multiplied by genproclimit to equal totale Threads you would like to use example (-minermemory=2 -genproclimit=4 is 8 Threads)

That mingingaddress thing never worked for me, either way I tried it. With the quotes or without. Wasted about two days mining while experimenting with this.

What I plan to do is what worked for me in the past. Open the wallet on the PC, go to console and type setgenerate true 8 or whatever amount of cores you want to use. Just use the same wallet.dat file on each pc and you're good.



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July 07, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
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If the majority votes to roll back the hodl requirement, will you undo this change in the future?

This

Freetrade, please answer this. It's critical to the future of the coin. You said you did the change because of majority vote, so using that logic a vote to move back should also be honored, right? Or any other successful vote that gets majority support? If not, it proves what most of us believe that you intended to make the change to protect your own hodlings and used the "vote" to justify it.
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