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Author Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers  (Read 3073029 times)
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March 18, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
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why would someone buy 1000 btc of lisk to dump it on launch below what they paid. 

Unless they are stupid af.

What am i missing?

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March 18, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
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why would someone buy 1000 btc of lisk to dump it on launch below what they paid. 

Unless they are stupid af.

What am i missing?

A dump could cause panic and amateurs would sell so whales can buy back at lower price.

People need to put more trust in what they put their money in.


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March 18, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
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why would someone buy 1000 btc of lisk to dump it on launch below what they paid.  

Unless they are stupid af.

What am i missing?

A dump could cause panic and amateurs would sell so whales can buy back at lower price.

People need to put more trust in what they put their money in.


The problem is, that most people don't know about those techniques and they don't see the danger...

possible scenario:
after release on the first exchange the wale dumps everything down to 50% of the ipo. There is no price support, because everyone is already in (and the smarter ones know about this dump). A lot of week hands of the ico loose half of their money and the wale will buy everything back in order to have even more of the coins...
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March 18, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
Last edit: March 18, 2016, 01:33:04 PM by bitbitch
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Just let them pump the hell out of it. In the end it is ALL PnD.

Lisk is NOT a pump and dump coin and it is worth fighting right here and right now to keep it that way.

once any coin hits the exchanges it's open season for the market to decide what happens to price. the price is a reflection of all variables, and whales are a well known variable factor in crypto trading.

If after the ICO closes on Monday things look difficult Max and Oliver could have a rethink. It can come under 'force majeure'. indentured servitude is a thing of the past.

I would suggest a full refund and a new ICO, issued by an incorporated entity this time, and with limits on individual contributions to the fund. the rules need to be better thought through imho.
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March 18, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
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why would someone buy 1000 btc of lisk to dump it on launch below what they paid. 

Unless they are stupid af.

What am i missing?

A dump could cause panic and amateurs would sell so whales can buy back at lower price.

People need to put more trust in what they put their money in.


The problem is, that most people don't know about those techniques and they don't see the danger...

Yes, thats why we should warn people to not sell immediately if price crashes.

But those people are probably going to fall for it even when warned.

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March 18, 2016, 01:24:00 PM
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Hello,
What is the difference between dPoS vs PoS?
How to reward work in dPoS? An example with 10,000 LISK.
What are the benefits the dPoS  LISK user?

More info about dPoS?
Thank you

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March 18, 2016, 01:27:13 PM
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Max and Oliver are losing control of this coin.  Two people now own more Lisk than the Lisk Foundation does.  What happens when the next whale comes in with 2000 BTC?  5000 BTC?  These could very well be Ethereum "newly rich" that absolutely do not have the best interest of Lisk at heart.

We are in hostile takeover territory.

Given that its designed to be decentralized, I don't think they were supposed to have control of it in the first place.

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March 18, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
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Hello,
What is the difference between dPoS vs PoS?
How to reward work in dPoS? An example with 10,000 LISK.
What are the benefits the dPoS  LISK user?

More info about dPoS?
Thank you
Read up my friend.

https://blog.lisk.io/explaining-lisk-forging-rewards-53d295066be2#.1vugordx4

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March 18, 2016, 01:38:04 PM
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changing the rules at the last moment of the ICO would've a serious impact on dev's credibility, so I think they won't do anything about whales investing btc more than what we saw lately. We are all taken by surprise here, and so they are.
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March 18, 2016, 01:42:56 PM
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Who invests 1000 BTC in an ICO in one go (without any bonus)? Seeing my LISK deplete so fast is really frustrating.

After owning a good percentage of all Crypti available, now my LISK amount looks so so less.

Can someone make the time go faster please, end the ICO like right NOW!!  Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
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I HEREBY OFFICIALLY VOTE THAT THE LISK ICO BE DECLARED OVER AT 6000 BTC (BEFORE THE RECENT 1000 and 300 BTC DONATIONS) TO AVOID A HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF THIS COIN IN THE REMAINING 64 HOURS.

dream on...
they had to do a hard cap in the beginning already. now its against the rule...
I would like it, but I guess it doesn't work

Offer refunds for a breach of the rules.  Nobody will ask for a refund.

Yea, but why should they do that? The more we spend, the more they get...

Max and Oliver are losing control of this coin.  Two people now own more Lisk than the Lisk Foundation does.  What happens when the next whale comes in with 2000 BTC?  5000 BTC?  These could very well be Ethereum "newly rich" that absolutely do not have the best interest of Lisk at heart.

We are in hostile takeover territory.

I agree. And I say more: refund this whale's money back or this will become a joke.
Negotiate with them to be made a smaller purchase...

Without getting the big whale out i think this will fail hard cause he will have to much control.
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March 18, 2016, 01:45:08 PM
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changing the rules at the last moment of the ICO would've a serious impact on dev's credibility, so I think they won't do anything about whales investing btc more than what we saw lately. We are all taken by surprise here, and so they are.

well this whale just put all of us day one investors in a tizzy.  it's not every day someone invests almost a half a million dollars and gives everyone else a 10% haircut in their lisk total.

as i wrote earlier, if this becomes an impediment to the health of the project the ICO gets refunded under force majeure and a new ICO is issued by an incorporated entity with clear cap rules on funding.

I would suggest all investors must have a verified Onename identity. the 1k whale can fuck off.
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March 18, 2016, 01:45:24 PM
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Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
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March 18, 2016, 01:46:00 PM
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Max says we continue for 64 hours as planned.

Ofcourse they continue, free money coming in baby.
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March 18, 2016, 01:46:11 PM
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...and you guys are not considering that the 1000-BTC-whale and 300-BTC-whale could be the same guy...
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March 18, 2016, 01:46:30 PM
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How much is each lisk worth right now?
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March 18, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
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Who invests 1000 BTC in an ICO in one go (without any bonus)? Seeing my LISK deplete so fast is really frustrating.

After owning a good percentage of all Crypti available, now my LISK amount looks so so less.

Can someone make the time go faster please, end the ICO like right NOW!!  Roll Eyes

yea, I said days ago already, that this will annoy a lot of investors, especially, because there is a coin number in their account that is shrinking.
Early investors are not really rewarded. All those, that come now come because of the amount the early investors spent... and they only get up to 15% more... ridiculous...
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March 18, 2016, 01:48:52 PM
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Max says we continue for 64 hours as planned.

Ofcourse they continue, free money coming in baby.

I just hope that they can manage the pressure on their success, that is growing with every BTC...
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March 18, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
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March 18, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
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Max says we continue for 64 hours as planned.

Ofcourse they continue, free money coming in baby.
LOL exactly that, they want as much money as they can get.
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