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March 18, 2016, 02:30:38 PM
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https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf

"11. Modifications to the Agreement."

- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.

I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...  Grin)

it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.



cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...
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March 18, 2016, 02:33:16 PM
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https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf

"11. Modifications to the Agreement."

- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.

I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...  Grin)

it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.



cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...

Lol indeed, people will just get other people to create an account and still get whatever they want.

There is almost no way to avoid them from coming in.

The only way to counter is for more people to jump in, and for people to invest even more lol.

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March 18, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
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We asked for decentralization, so this is what we get. Welcome to the wild west. buckle up and enjoy the ride  Grin
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March 18, 2016, 02:38:20 PM
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I'm not saying this will happen, but don't be surprised if this thing hits 10-15k BTC before the ICO ends.

Everyone's speculation about ETH money flowing into Lisk was correct, the only caveat being that the noticeable portions of that money are only now entering the space.

Any smart investor in an ICO that's relatively successful is going to buy up the majority of the chunks at the end of the ICO because that's when you can seal the amount that's being shared. Everyone else has already dropped in their money so they can calc how much money they need to pump in to get x amount. (As most people are already spent.)

Yes the agreement clause can be edited, but at the same time you would be deterring the larger investors, and it is their choice to risk enormous amounts of capital on... something you can't even access yet.
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March 18, 2016, 02:39:46 PM
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https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf

"11. Modifications to the Agreement."

- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.

I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...  Grin)

it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.



cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...

Lol indeed, people will just get other people to create an account and still get whatever they want.

There is almost no way to avoid them from coming in.

The only way to counter is for more people to jump in, and for people to invest even more lol.


additional clause: Onename identity required to participate.
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March 18, 2016, 02:40:29 PM
Last edit: March 18, 2016, 08:44:47 PM by deadpoolx
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Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post.
You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
yes.
I admit to both making an error and panic.  Onward.

I also complained before.

But the fact is this couldn't be avoid anyway, because the same whales could split the purchases in multiple accounts.

Just free market.
Let's just hope that users don't enter the whales panic selling game when this begin.
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March 18, 2016, 02:41:29 PM
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I'm not saying this will happen, but don't be surprised if this thing hits 10-15k BTC before the ICO ends.

Everyone's speculation about ETH money flowing into Lisk was correct, the only caveat being that the noticeable portions of that money are only now entering the space.

Any smart investor in an ICO that's relatively successful is going to buy up the majority of the chunks at the end of the ICO because that's when you can seal the amount that's being shared. Everyone else has already dropped in their money so they can calc how much money they need to pump in to get x amount. (As most people are already spent.)

This WILL happen... people are pushing each other without thinking any more...
but this is not eth... it can be big as well, but only time can tell, if it will...
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March 18, 2016, 02:42:47 PM
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Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post.
You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
yes.
I admit to both making an error and panic.  Onward.

I also complained before.

But the fact is this couldn't be avoid anyway, course the same whales could split the purchases in multiple accounts.

Just free market.
Let's just hope that users don't enter the whales panic selling game when this begin.
Nothing can stop the whale, we can only thanks that we've noticed this one, if someone is scared, don't invest.

I know why your pray will never be answered!
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March 18, 2016, 02:43:37 PM
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anyone selling before the price hits $10 is krill.
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March 18, 2016, 02:44:44 PM
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anyone selling before the price hits $10 is krill.

Maybe it won't even come that far ?
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March 18, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
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anyone selling before the price hits $10 is krill.

Maybe it won't even come that far ?

maybe it can reach there, but I doubt this year...
and I am pretty sure, you can buy lisk at ipo price in a few months again before...
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March 18, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
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Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post.
You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
yes.
I admit to both making an error and panic.  Onward.

panic is the liquidity of crypto Smiley

no worries. on we march...
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March 18, 2016, 03:01:49 PM
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I hope some of the ICO money will be spent on putting up some serious buy orders. Im not talking about a pump, but some orders atleast so the fudders can get out with their original sum if they absolutely want too(before the price is mooning Cool ).

Buy high and sell low
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March 18, 2016, 03:03:16 PM
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Can we see the address where all this ICO BTC is located ??

they post videos with the total every once in a while

Videos of what? I would like to see the address where the funds are located...

Just follow your transaction to the adress where the bitcoins are stored. Not so hard. I posted the adress a while back (around page 150). It was an adress with 1K BTC, I assume there are more adresses like that.


Ok thanks, so we have 3000 BTC in this address 35z7BVppgRCmGwsBZkV78QBuNn2Z673JBk

how about the rest? Anyone can provide the address or is it private so nobody can track the funds when they start buying cars and jewelry..
 
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March 18, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
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I hope some of the ICO money will be spent on putting up some serious buy orders. Im not talking about a pump, but some orders atleast so the fudders can get out with their original sum if they absolutely want too(before the price is mooning Cool ).

Lol no, let those bloddy fudders who bought lose their money.

Why waste development money to buy out stupid trolls.

Let them bleed lol.


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March 18, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
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Lisk is the fourth most funded project in the history and there's still 62 hours till the end of ICO.

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Lisk: 7400 BTC + 65M XCR
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

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March 18, 2016, 03:12:51 PM
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Lisk is the fourth most funded project in the history and there's still 62 hours till the end of ICO.

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Lisk: 7400 BTC + 65M XCR
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

what is the XCR as a % of the total?
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March 18, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
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What makes this project remotely different than any other cryptocurrency launch??

Is it the fact that Lisk is one of the FIRST crypto 2.0
Projects accepted by Microsoft azure and the coin hasn't
even been launched yet...

Is it that Microsoft sees potential in Lisk when it could have easily picked, choose, decided, any other 6xx + crypto projects??

The whales know when a project like Lisk has been accepted/partnered with one of the largest software corporations in the world & the coin hasnt even been released yet... now that speaks enormous volume of Lisk and what lies ahead for this young promising project.

Read between the lines.. (mainstream adoption)

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March 18, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
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https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf

"11. Modifications to the Agreement."

- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.

I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...  Grin)

it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.



cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...

i thought that perhaps Lisk might be reaching for a higher standard of probity. there are better ways of doing things than we have yet seen in the crypto space.
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March 18, 2016, 03:17:33 PM
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What makes this project remotely different than any other cryptocurrency launch??

Is it the fact that Lisk is one of the FIRST crypto 2.0
Projects accepted by Microsoft azure and the coin hasn't
even been launched yet...

Is it that Microsoft sees potential in Lisk when it could have easily picked, choose, decided, any other 6xx + crypto projects??

The whales know when a project like Lisk has been accepted/partnered with one of the largest software corporations in the world & the coin hasnt even been released yet... now that speaks enormous volume of Lisk and what lies ahead for this young promising project.

Read between the lines.. (mainstream adoption)

Peer2peer360




And if it droppes a little i have about another 10 btc ready to pick up some cheaper lisk Wink

Only i hope there will be a Dapp that makes people run a deleagte togheter cause with one person buying about 15% of the ico he can easly set up 15 delegates, thats what worries me that one gonna try to control many delegates

cause with 15 delegates he will get like 1,5 million coins in year 1. making it able to make more delegates for year 2.
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