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March 16, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

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March 16, 2016, 09:47:57 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?
Well it's not very overpriced compared to its potential

That'll time show. I think its seriously enough.
For the last days guys keep in mind:
Keep calm and don't get forced to buy more, just because your amounts are shrinking. Keep some money for your rent...
If we gonna spend all double we investors still have exactly the same amount of lisk...
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March 16, 2016, 09:50:12 PM
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I will wait until it hits 1 dollar

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March 16, 2016, 09:51:28 PM
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Great looking is not enough and not even the main point. You explained it yourself. A good logo is simple. This one needs too much detail to be understood...
It should look good on a webpage, it should look good on a t-shirt, it should look good on a pencil, and it should be recognizable with nearly no light. Just look at the ethereum logo... the lines are so clear, that even a nearly blind person can recognize it.

If you ask me to draw Ethereum logo I won't be able to do it. I remember that it's simple but I don't remember how it looks like. On the other hand Lisk logo is a crystal on a socle.

no. its a blue cristal on a dark grey socle with tons of surfaces. Do you know how many? What do you think can people easier remember. The surfaces of ethereum or the ones of lisk?
And if you change one surface its a different logo... its just any cristal then not the logo any more...

It's not 80s, it's 2016. There were certain rules that couldn't be broke because of printing limitations. Lisk doesn't need to be printed in one ink on packages or envelopes.

Take a look at 2015 trends: https://www.logolounge.com/article/2015logotrends#.VunU2Pl96Uk





There's more to look at.

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March 16, 2016, 09:55:50 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?
Well it's not very overpriced compared to its potential

Definitely overpriced.

Lisk just cloned Crypti & has same supply as Crypti, I don't see why Lisk should be at 7500 while Crypti is at 1500

Pretty certain price will drop after launch.

Another newbie that can predict the future  Smiley

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March 16, 2016, 09:58:47 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?
Well it's not very overpriced compared to its potential

Definitely overpriced.

Lisk just cloned Crypti & has same supply as Crypti, I don't see why Lisk should be at 7500 while Crypti is at 1500

Pretty certain price will drop after launch.

Another newbie that can predict the future  Smiley
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March 16, 2016, 10:00:58 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0


OMG!! I was thinking on investing .. Thanks for this.!!!!!      Your right a complete copy WTF !!!
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March 16, 2016, 10:05:42 PM
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It's not 80s, it's 2016. There were certain rules that couldn't be broke because of printing limitations. Lisk doesn't need to be printed in one ink on packages or envelopes.
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jesus, should we really start that discussion again that we had on nfd? just because some people think they invent new rules it doesn't mean, they are right.
And noone said, that this logo does not work now, but we could do better and more secure for sure.

A logo should be simple. You can always make a simple logo more complex but not a complex one easy. The current one needs work to be made easier and then it could be really good.
A logo should be timeless. You bring out logos, that will have serious problems, if times change. And honestly nearly all are bad...
And sorry to say. But a logo should still work one ink... also if times change... and all of yours do somehow
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March 16, 2016, 10:06:25 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?
Well it's not very overpriced compared to its potential

Definitely overpriced.

Lisk just cloned Crypti & has same supply as Crypti, I don't see why Lisk should be at 7500 while Crypti is at 1500

Pretty certain price will drop after launch.

Another newbie that can predict the future  Smiley
they are always the best fudder and the best shiller! I wish to be newbie again!

Crypti was plagued with massive setbacks etc.

The time they wasted on fixing it costs money and people lose faith and hop to the next rocket hoping it will go moonbound.

LISK has a platform and a big heap of money to make it an epic platform.

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March 16, 2016, 10:08:01 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0

You don't get it do you? There's no Crypti anymore. No devs behind it, no money, no community, no nothing. Everything and everybody moved from Crypti to Lisk. The tech will be developing here and nowhere else.

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March 16, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0
OMG!! I was thinking on investing .. Thanks for this.!!!!!      Your right a complete copy WTF !!!

Yes, Lisk is a fork from Crypti. The main difference is in their vision of future development, funding and team members who are resilient.

They will have enough funds to work on Lisk for years to come, that should give Lisk and incredible edge over Crypti.

Lisk is the successor of Crypti. Foundation members from Crypti have fully supported the transition. Also, they have stated they will support the Crypti network for a maximum of 6 months.

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March 16, 2016, 10:18:15 PM
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It's not 80s, it's 2016. There were certain rules that couldn't be broke because of printing limitations. Lisk doesn't need to be printed in one ink on packages or envelopes.
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jesus, should we really start that discussion again that we had on nfd? just because some people think they invent new rules it doesn't mean, they are right.
And noone said, that this logo does not work now, but we could do better and more secure for sure.

A logo should be simple. You can always make a simple logo more complex but not a complex one easy. The current one needs work to be made easier and then it could be really good.
A logo should be timeless. You bring out logos, that will have serious problems, if times change.


Well, you can check trends from 2000 to 2015 and you won't find simplifications. Times has changed. There might be a need to create a simple version of Lisk logo. But it's the last thing in their To Do list, I can assure you. That Brazilian designer can make a simple one ink version of Lisk logo and that'll be enough.

NFD... Good old times. Seems like it was hundred years ago.

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March 16, 2016, 10:24:13 PM
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It's not 80s, it's 2016. There were certain rules that couldn't be broke because of printing limitations. Lisk doesn't need to be printed in one ink on packages or envelopes.
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jesus, should we really start that discussion again that we had on nfd? just because some people think they invent new rules it doesn't mean, they are right.
And noone said, that this logo does not work now, but we could do better and more secure for sure.

A logo should be simple. You can always make a simple logo more complex but not a complex one easy. The current one needs work to be made easier and then it could be really good.
A logo should be timeless. You bring out logos, that will have serious problems, if times change.


Well, you can check trends from 2000 to 2015 and you won't find simplifications. Times has changed. There might be a need to create a simple version of Lisk logo. But it's the last thing in their To Do list, I can assure you. That Brazilian designer can make a simple one ink version of Lisk logo and that'll be enough.

NFD... Good old times. Seems like it was hundred years ago.

yeah maybe it has time. But just to give another hint on the advantage of a good logo like eth:
Their logo is so simple, that they could even put it as a new unicode character like €...
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March 16, 2016, 10:31:42 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0
OMG!! I was thinking on investing .. Thanks for this.!!!!!      Your right a complete copy WTF !!!

Yes, Lisk is a fork from Crypti. The main difference is in their vision of future development, funding and team members who are resilient.

They will have enough funds to work on Lisk for years to come, that should give Lisk and incredible edge over Crypti.

Lisk is the successor of Crypti. Foundation members from Crypti have fully supported the transition. Also, they have stated they will support the Crypti network for a maximum of 6 months.


I'm not clear on the fork ? Meaning the differences in Lisk and Crypti ? I went to the above link, and Crypti has the exact same plan down to the use of java script and  App Store ?  The difference is Crypti has actually developed all of this ? Is lisk using  everything from Crypti i.e. their open source code ?
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March 16, 2016, 10:37:50 PM
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How many investors are coming! I believe Lisk will be huge success! Tongue
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March 16, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0
OMG!! I was thinking on investing .. Thanks for this.!!!!!      Your right a complete copy WTF !!!

Yes, Lisk is a fork from Crypti. The main difference is in their vision of future development, funding and team members who are resilient.

They will have enough funds to work on Lisk for years to come, that should give Lisk and incredible edge over Crypti.

Lisk is the successor of Crypti. Foundation members from Crypti have fully supported the transition. Also, they have stated they will support the Crypti network for a maximum of 6 months.


I'm not clear on the fork ? Meaning the differences in Lisk and Crypti ? I went to the above link, and Crypti has the exact same plan down to the use of java script and  App Store ?  The difference is Crypti has actually developed all of this ? Is lisk using  everything from Crypti i.e. their open source code ?

just think of this as a rebranding and second round of funding.


Ok .. I'm not here to bash Lisk, so this will be my last post. I've made up my mind.. Second round of funding.. Ok except the company who actually came up with this didn't reach its potential,  or we wouldn't be talking about Lisk being its successor. I don't see how a second round is going to change that ? I mean, I see no differences in their plan from Crypti. I just feel like when Lisk  say's  from the ground up ?? I'll leave it at that as well .. I just hope this isn't how it appears, and wish everyone success.
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March 16, 2016, 10:53:48 PM
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Hi, can anyone please send me one XCR to 1693795196483532683C, it seems my wallet does not work with 0 balance.

Will be much appreciated and will pass it forward.
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March 16, 2016, 11:00:02 PM
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Feels a little overpriced at the moment. What do you guys think ?

The tech behind Lisk is built from the ground, it's solid and has a great potential. There's a huge development and marketing fund. I don't see how it's overpriced.

Sorry but Lisk is NOT built from the ground.

Lisk was 100% cloned from Crypti:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.0

You don't get it do you? There's no Crypti anymore. No devs behind it, no money, no community, no nothing. Everything and everybody moved from Crypti to Lisk. The tech will be developing here and nowhere else.

What ? No Devs behind Crypti anymore ?! Please stop spreading non-sense.

Crypti Lead Dev just said recently he's busy building Blockchain 2.0 for Crypti

Crypti Lead Dev said "I'm focusing on my own blockchain 2.0 project, which we will announce soon". Lisk is a new Crypti, end of story.

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March 16, 2016, 11:02:52 PM
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What ? No Devs behind Crypti anymore ?! Please stop spreading non-sense.

Crypti Lead Dev just said recently he's busy building Blockchain 2.0 for Crypti

I'm sure Boris will speak for himself here, but in essence he is working on a new project unrelated to Crypti AFAIK. However, he shall be advising us on future directions and is in regular contact with us.

LISK (quite rightly so), is supporting the Crypti network with delegates and a block explorer throughout the course of the ICO.

The funding and tremendous support we are receiving, will help ensure the technology evolves into something far greater than ever before.

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March 16, 2016, 11:15:39 PM
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Ok .. I'm not here to bash Lisk, so this will be my last post. I've made up my mind.. Second round of funding.. Ok except the company who actually came up with this didn't reach its potential,  or we wouldn't be talking about Lisk being its successor. I don't see how a second round is going to change that ? I mean, I see no differences in their plan from Crypti. I just feel like when Lisk  say's  from the ground up ?? I'll leave it at that as well .. I just hope this isn't how appears, and wish everyone success.

Crypti was led by a different team which we were a part of, but certainly not in control of.

Max and I are providing new leadership, a better execution of ideas, and an overall greater sense of transparency and openness towards the community.

There are areas of the source code which need to be rethought, some features are missing, dapps need to be developed, therefore the scope for change is quite enormous.

You can follow our work on GitHub, there you will see for yourself the changes we are making.

Thank you.

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