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Coming to many crypto forums it feels a little like the sky is falling on cryptocurrency but for all the talk of the short term position of coins, there is little talk of how factors external to the performance of crypto markets, with their whale manipulators, will potentially effect the price.
Just opening a window in here....
The outlook for the global economy in the next 9 months is pretty sketchy. Growth is slowing in China and the Yuan is entering a period of Devaluation. GDP predictions in a number of western nations are being revised down. The potential UK exit from the EU will likely negatively effect both GBP and the Euro price regardless of the outcome. Hyperinflation is now starting to effect several developing nations economies. All of this is coming off the back of some of the largest (failed) QE projects in history worldwide. Add to this mix that large financial institutions are now seeming offering products very much like the CDOS that caused the craziness we saw in 2007-8 (only this time if that house of cards collapses there isn't any hope that even the strongest national economies will be able to cover those losses with bail outs).
My question is this: If we see a global implosion/ currency crisis this year (with the potential for bail-ins), would we see a greater number of investors trying to shield losses from bail-ins/ fiat devaluations using cryptocurrency investment (think Cyprus, but global). If this situation comes to pass I feel we are likely to see a great many REAL whales with an eye to making long term investments across the crypto currency space as they flee a fiat time bomb. At that point whoever is holding, whatever amount, is likely to become very happy indeed - caveat: as long as infrastructure is in place to enable currency transactions and POS for goods and services without ever touching fiat.
My 2 pence ladies and gents. Please feel free to rip to shreds.
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March 18, 2016, 10:02:02 PM |
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People selling Ethe to buy Lisk... This is going mad.
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March 18, 2016, 10:05:30 PM |
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excuse my ignorance , so does lisk run normal dpos outline in the above paper? like will ONLY the top 101 delegates get the forging rewards? so in reality, this will be done by 101 tech savy users (maybe less unique users tho its not recommended) on virtual servers, with big companies, and about 99.9% uptime so theres really no point in considering this an entry level dpos coin anyone can stake is there? like in reality, there will be very little voting as noones gonna pay the lisk and half wont understand the whole process except that they get no rewards, and it costs to vote for others to get ALL the rewards ;\ correct me if im understadnig this wrong, or is that the whole point of delegates? i understand the best uptime secures the network the best, but its will NOT be everyday users getting pos rewards just for holding? i guess thats the point of dpos over pos? so basically all lisk will end up exchanges till people choose to distribute but we all have boughten in, who will buy but whales? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) this is gonna be so interesting! haha
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March 18, 2016, 10:40:22 PM |
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People selling Ethe to buy Lisk... This is going mad.
I know right! It sure is and we love it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 18, 2016, 10:50:06 PM |
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People selling Ethe to buy Lisk... This is going mad.
Not really ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Lisk seemed to look cool and they will also see the community grow up here, cheers
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March 18, 2016, 10:53:33 PM |
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I somehow managed to get the majority of my Lisks without bonus -_-
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March 18, 2016, 11:18:38 PM |
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Yes I know that but I waited too much to buy more so my largest buys are without bonus.
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March 18, 2016, 11:19:41 PM |
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When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
people are asking this question once every hour!! In 1 to 3 weeks lisk will be listed in an exchange When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
whenever the exchanges feel like doing it Not when they want but when dev will release source and allow exchanges to add it Thanks for the info ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hopefully no longer than a week after. There should be no rush adding Lisk into an exchange as the psychology of the markets will take a toll on those who did not invest in the ICO. With that said, I believe the launch will occur the first few weeks after the ICO is over. After that, it should go live within a week or two on exchanges. Keep in mind Lisk is in early development and the network needs to be heavily tested before being deemed stable.Also, is everyone ready to become a pivotal par of Lisk and register a delegate!? Are you on crack, shill ? Lisk is a fork of Crypti, therefore the network is already stable and doesn't need to be tested before the launch. These 2 scammers that convinced Boris (the founder of Crypti) to take part into this grotesque act just became millionaires without doing anything but forking crypti and rebranding it to lisk.
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The absolute worst people in history, ranked by the wisdom of the crowd: "Vlad the Impaler", "Mihnea the Evil", "Ivan the Terrible" and "Evan the Instaminer".
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March 18, 2016, 11:36:59 PM |
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-snip-
watch me make some money.
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You don't pay enough.
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Wolf Rainer
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March 18, 2016, 11:37:02 PM |
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When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
people are asking this question once every hour!! In 1 to 3 weeks lisk will be listed in an exchange When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
whenever the exchanges feel like doing it Not when they want but when dev will release source and allow exchanges to add it Thanks for the info ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hopefully no longer than a week after. There should be no rush adding Lisk into an exchange as the psychology of the markets will take a toll on those who did not invest in the ICO. With that said, I believe the launch will occur the first few weeks after the ICO is over. After that, it should go live within a week or two on exchanges. Keep in mind Lisk is in early development and the network needs to be heavily tested before being deemed stable.Also, is everyone ready to become a pivotal par of Lisk and register a delegate!? Are you on crack, shill ? Lisk is a fork of Crypti, therefore the network is already stable and doesn't need to be tested before the launch. These 2 scammers that convinced Boris (the founder of Crypti) to take part into this grotesque act just became millionaires without doing anything but forking crypti and rebranding it to lisk. If it´s so easy, what are you waiting to do the same and become millionaire?
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March 18, 2016, 11:46:03 PM |
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Coming to many crypto forums it feels a little like the sky is falling on cryptocurrency but for all the talk of the short term position of coins, there is little talk of how factors external to the performance of crypto markets, with their whale manipulators, will potentially effect the price.
Just opening a window in here....
The outlook for the global economy in the next 9 months is pretty sketchy. Growth is slowing in China and the Yuan is entering a period of Devaluation. GDP predictions in a number of western nations are being revised down. The potential UK exit from the EU will likely negatively effect both GBP and the Euro price regardless of the outcome. Hyperinflation is now starting to effect several developing nations economies. All of this is coming off the back of some of the largest (failed) QE projects in history worldwide. Add to this mix that large financial institutions are now seeming offering products very much like the CDOS that caused the craziness we saw in 2007-8 (only this time if that house of cards collapses there isn't any hope that even the strongest national economies will be able to cover those losses with bail outs).
My question is this: If we see a global implosion/ currency crisis this year (with the potential for bail-ins), would we see a greater number of investors trying to shield losses from bail-ins/ fiat devaluations using cryptocurrency investment (think Cyprus, but global). If this situation comes to pass I feel we are likely to see a great many REAL whales with an eye to making long term investments across the crypto currency space as they flee a fiat time bomb. At that point whoever is holding, whatever amount, is likely to become very happy indeed - caveat: as long as infrastructure is in place to enable currency transactions and POS for goods and services without ever touching fiat.
My 2 pence ladies and gents. Please feel free to rip to shreds.
Meh, stop being trendy. That's what everyone thinks. (including me) If everyone knows that...why didn't it already happen? lol Man, in the beggining i wanted just a refugee from my brazilian real melting...now there is a whole ecosystem of great businesses, equities and, why not, virtual commodities. See, crypto is wild west, there are limitless chances to get rich! One just have to know how to measure value, just that.
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March 18, 2016, 11:50:55 PM |
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Are you on crack, shill ? Lisk is a fork of Crypti, therefore the network is already stable and doesn't need to be tested before the launch. These 2 scammers that convinced Boris (the founder of Crypti) to take part into this grotesque act just became millionaires without doing anything but forking crypti and rebranding it to lisk.
Sorry but this is not true, nor so easy as you would like to think. I therefore invite you to come to https://lisk.chat/, where I am happy to outline the changes we have made, plus the shear amount of hours and dedication required to get where we are today. GitHub commits are our friend in this regard ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The BTC raised will be used for the development and marketing of Lisk, and are not personal fortunes. Lisk is also not merely a clone as you suggest, but rather a finishing of the job, with certain areas of it completely reimplemented to a higher standard of workmanship. Thank you.
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March 19, 2016, 12:40:02 AM |
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When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
people are asking this question once every hour!! In 1 to 3 weeks lisk will be listed in an exchange When is the launch date to hit exchanges?
whenever the exchanges feel like doing it Not when they want but when dev will release source and allow exchanges to add it Thanks for the info ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hopefully no longer than a week after. Maybe because he is not a bitch and dont want to leave u and other ppl with signature and cotton t-shirt There should be no rush adding Lisk into an exchange as the psychology of the markets will take a toll on those who did not invest in the ICO. With that said, I believe the launch will occur the first few weeks after the ICO is over. After that, it should go live within a week or two on exchanges. Keep in mind Lisk is in early development and the network needs to be heavily tested before being deemed stable.Also, is everyone ready to become a pivotal par of Lisk and register a delegate!? Are you on crack, shill ? Lisk is a fork of Crypti, therefore the network is already stable and doesn't need to be tested before the launch. These 2 scammers that convinced Boris (the founder of Crypti) to take part into this grotesque act just became millionaires without doing anything but forking crypti and rebranding it to lisk. If it´s so easy, what are you waiting to do the same and become millionaire? Maybe he isnt bitch and doesnt want to leave u, and other ppl with signature and cotton t-shirt?
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March 19, 2016, 01:55:14 AM |
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excuse my ignorance , so does lisk run normal dpos outline in the above paper? like will ONLY the top 101 delegates get the forging rewards? so in reality, this will be done by 101 tech savy users (maybe less unique users tho its not recommended) on virtual servers, with big companies, and about 99.9% uptime so theres really no point in considering this an entry level dpos coin anyone can stake is there? like in reality, there will be very little voting as noones gonna pay the lisk and half wont understand the whole process except that they get no rewards, and it costs to vote for others to get ALL the rewards ;\ correct me if im understadnig this wrong, or is that the whole point of delegates? i understand the best uptime secures the network the best, but its will NOT be everyday users getting pos rewards just for holding? i guess thats the point of dpos over pos? so basically all lisk will end up exchanges till people choose to distribute but we all have boughten in, who will buy but whales? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) this is gonna be so interesting! haha or the guys with 8,000,000 LISK will vote for their 101 delegates .. and have a blast . no whales , no sardiines... just Max and Oliver hoarding on to the blocks. And who in the right state of their fucking mind will vote for someone else as a delegate ... other than himself ... and tons of people buyin into this shit .. You need to do more research. BitShares is a perfect example, creators of DPOS, plenty of people vote for others as delegates. Holders have a vested interest on who end up being delegates.
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AleScamHole
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March 19, 2016, 02:15:28 AM |
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excuse my ignorance , so does lisk run normal dpos outline in the above paper? like will ONLY the top 101 delegates get the forging rewards? so in reality, this will be done by 101 tech savy users (maybe less unique users tho its not recommended) on virtual servers, with big companies, and about 99.9% uptime so theres really no point in considering this an entry level dpos coin anyone can stake is there? like in reality, there will be very little voting as noones gonna pay the lisk and half wont understand the whole process except that they get no rewards, and it costs to vote for others to get ALL the rewards ;\ correct me if im understadnig this wrong, or is that the whole point of delegates? i understand the best uptime secures the network the best, but its will NOT be everyday users getting pos rewards just for holding? i guess thats the point of dpos over pos? so basically all lisk will end up exchanges till people choose to distribute but we all have boughten in, who will buy but whales? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) this is gonna be so interesting! haha or the guys with 8,000,000 LISK will vote for their 101 delegates .. and have a blast . no whales , no sardiines... just Max and Oliver hoarding on to the blocks. And who in the right state of their fucking mind will vote for someone else as a delegate ... other than himself ... and tons of people buyin into this shit .. You need to do more research. BitShares is a perfect example, creators of DPOS, plenty of people vote for others as delegates. Holders have a vested interest on who end up being delegates. well i actually use bts, and the cost is way less ..... bts is cheap, if lisk hit 100k shat, noone will vote, people vote with bts cause its cheap and easy to get, eobot and other pools offer it in payment but not lisk, you will have to purchase it to have it to vote, and the market decides that price as far as i understand
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March 19, 2016, 03:03:23 AM |
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**claps** BRaVO a Virtuoso FUD performance!!! The best I've ever seen!!!! Important Update:Coinbase informed us that they intend to freeze the Lisk ICO funds in their Vault, following some large investments that they traced back to known Bitcoin addresses used by known individuals that are on the U.S. Department of Commerce Denied Persons List:
Our investigation findings have been shared with Coinbase and they will be released to the pubic on Monday 03/21/2016 by prominent tech news site.
Public Warning:
We've spent the past few days researching and investigating the two individuals and the Lawyer behind Lisk, with some colleagues in Germany and United Kingdom. We came across some shattering information that will be detrimental if not fatal to Lisk project.
We are forwarding all the findings to the police authorities in Germany and to the Interpol.
We advise everyone to request refunds for your investments in this IPO to avoid having funds frozen by Coinbase or by the authorities.
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March 19, 2016, 03:07:28 AM |
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This is the Paganini of FUD... I'm moved by this level of commitment and transcendental genius. **claps** BRaVO a Virtuoso FUD performance!!! The best I've ever seen!!!! Sooooooo if Coinbase found something sketchy already.....why are they waiting a few more days to........freeze the....account? lol
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March 19, 2016, 03:10:46 AM |
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How much LISK i get for 1 BTC at this moment ?
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March 19, 2016, 03:25:02 AM |
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How much LISK i get for 1 BTC at this moment ?
Around 9.5k
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March 19, 2016, 04:36:56 AM |
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Pulling repository docker.io/lisk/mainnet Error: image lisk/mainnet not found
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