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March 17, 2016, 11:21:30 AM
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Hey Iotatoken can you disclose some rough price range at which the big potential buyers are interested in? I think this is key info.


There's no reason to do that publicly before this goes from just being a 'potential' to something actual. First we need to pool enough together, otherwise it won't happen.

About how much do we need ?




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March 17, 2016, 11:29:49 AM
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Hey Iotatoken can you disclose some rough price range at which the big potential buyers are interested in? I think this is key info.


There's no reason to do that publicly before this goes from just being a 'potential' to something actual. First we need to pool enough together, otherwise it won't happen.

About how much do we need ?

~25 million iotas

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March 17, 2016, 12:01:20 PM
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Is it jl777?
No, this is much bigger than Jl777.
Is it Bobsurplus? I heard he's way fatter than James.
Bobsurplus looks like a pump&dumper. I bet David definitely avoid this kind of guy...

Guys, think out side of the anonymous world. Think real world with real names and real companies and real reputation and recorded history. Iota will only deal with those people. Again, the rerun they have brought to the coins after they invested is significant in the history.
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March 17, 2016, 12:26:19 PM
Last edit: March 17, 2016, 12:39:18 PM by yassin54
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IOTA Foundation announcement


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March 17, 2016, 12:39:53 PM
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Lookin at the Genesisblock i see in the first 10 accounts alone well over 250 Mio Iota.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262688.msg14116556#msg14116556

Whats so hard to get some big holders to give 10% of their stake? It makes much more sense to me than to ask folks with 500.000 Iota to share 100.000.



Why do you think I asked specifically for big holders for the potential deal? Precisely this.

As for foundation: everyone should contribute here, it's a community effort. Most of the big whales I have spoken to will donate 10% of their holdings, but that doesn't mean that those who hold 500K should donate 25-50K if they want IOTA to grow. The community need to be dedicated, not just idle and hodl in speculative efforts.

It's no surprise that it is only in the 'IOTA Speculation' thread where this sort of thinking shows up, virtually nowhere else.

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March 17, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
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Just the fact that they are able to buy in a large chunk, which would be a hassle to do on an exchange is bending over for these guys enough.

exactly my thoughts.

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March 17, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
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Lookin at the Genesisblock i see in the first 10 accounts alone well over 250 Mio Iota.

LOL, it's because I sorted them that way for convenience.
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March 17, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
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Lookin at the Genesisblock i see in the first 10 accounts alone well over 250 Mio Iota.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262688.msg14116556#msg14116556

Whats so hard to get some big holders to give 10% of their stake? It makes much more sense to me than to ask folks with 500.000 Iota to share 100.000.



Well I also think the big holders will benefit from donating to the foundation.

Holders with less iota would want to hold them, but if we are all sitting on our iota's and nothing is happening we are all holding nothing.

I propose that everyone in the community regardless off the amount you have contributes 5%-10% of their stake.

90%-95% of something is alway more than 100% of nothing.
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March 17, 2016, 12:45:07 PM
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Just the fact that they are able to buy in a large chunk, which would be a hassle to do on an exchange is bending over for these guys enough.

exactly my thoughts.

No, it's called negotiation and business, we stand to gain more immediately than they do from this deal. I don't get why this is so hard for people to comprehend in this speculation thread.

Just to put the absurdity of this into perspective in layman terms: Do you guys also think that Puma went up to Usain Bolt like: "We know we stand to gain a ton by your association and involvement with our brand, but you'll have to buy all your clothes at retail for full price"?

Here is the facts: if enough iotas is not pooled together at a satisfactory value for them, the deal won't happen. If the community don't see enough value in such a huge deal that is 100% their right and would indicate to me that they got some extraordinary plans up their sleeve which make them confident that we don't need such important key partnerships, and I wish them good luck while I'll sit back and wait for their huge announcement.

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March 17, 2016, 12:48:38 PM
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Just the fact that they are able to buy in a large chunk, which would be a hassle to do on an exchange is bending over for these guys enough.

exactly my thoughts.

No, it's called negotiation and business, we stand to gain more immediately than they do from this deal. I don't get why this is so hard for people to comprehend in this speculation thread.

Just to put the absurdity of this into perspective in layman terms: Do you guys also think that Puma went up to Usain Bolt like: "We know we stand to gain a ton by your association and involvement with our brand, but you'll have to buy all your clothes at retail for full price"?

Here is the facts: if enough iotas is not pooled together at a satisfactory value for them, the deal won't happen. If the community don't see enough value in such a huge deal, that is 100% their right and would indicate to me that they got some extraordinary plans up their sleeve which make them confident that we don't need such important key partnership and I wish them good luck while I'll sit back and wait for their huge announcement.

So... 50 mil to foundation and 25 mil to a big deal ?
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March 17, 2016, 12:49:06 PM
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Just the fact that they are able to buy in a large chunk, which would be a hassle to do on an exchange is bending over for these guys enough.

exactly my thoughts.

No, it's called negotiation and business, we stand to gain more immediately than they do from this deal. I don't get why this is so hard for people to comprehend in this speculation thread.

Just to put the absurdity of this into perspective in layman terms: Do you guys also think that Puma went up to Usain Bolt like: "We know we stand to gain a ton by your association and involvement with our brand, but you'll have to buy all your clothes at retail for full price"?

Here is the facts: if enough iotas is not pooled together at a satisfactory value for them, the deal won't happen. If the community don't see enough value in such a huge deal, that is 100% their right and would indicate to me that they got some extraordinary plans up their sleeve which make them confident that we don't need such important key partnership and I wish them good luck while I'll sit back and wait for their huge announcement.

So... 50 mil to foundation and 25 mil to a big deal ?

This is the current plan, yes Smiley

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March 17, 2016, 01:09:59 PM
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I own about 4 mil iota and I pledge a donation of 400,000 to be split up between the foundation and this large potential deal as David sees fit.

I encourage others to make the same pledge! Let's get this done!
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March 17, 2016, 01:11:41 PM
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I promise 100k IOTAs
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March 17, 2016, 01:12:38 PM
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10% (around 200k) of my stack for the deal and foundation.
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March 17, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
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I will give 2 millions (to be split up between the foundation and this large potential deal).
It doesn't make sense to sit with millions of worthless coins  Undecided

Whales, do like me.
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March 17, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
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I'll donate
150K for the potential deal
and 75K for the foundation.
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March 17, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
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300k for deal and foundation. About 20% of what I have. Approved by Vilfredo Pareto. Cheesy

Eh what the hell I plan to grab more by trading  on exchange anyway. 
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March 17, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
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Going to chip in my 10% aswell. 850K Iotas
Lets get this going guys!
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March 17, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
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Maybe Update funds!!  Smiley

@Yassin54 promise---> 100k
@coldmoldy promise---> 400k
@youyou_ promise---> 200k
@50cent_rapper promise---> 2M
@Rando promise ---> 225k
@bizz promise---> 300k
@HindsightHero---> 850k
@rubenbc---> 250k

Total--->4'325'000M IOTAs

all is good?  Roll Eyes
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March 17, 2016, 02:10:46 PM
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@yassin54: a table like this would help

Username    Foundation    Big Deal   
aaaaxxx IOTAxxx IOTA
bbbbxxx IOTAxxx IOTA
ccccxxx IOTAxxx IOTA
SUM xxx SUM xxx

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