Health and Religion

[Losvienleg]

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself

implying those who disagree with socialism are less intelligent than you when you can't even use the word correctly in a sentence, socialism is a system where the means of production are owned by the whole community and workers get to keep more of what they produce instead of having it taken awsy from them by a capitalist class of exploiters, it is not giving free things to scroungers and unproductive minorities

Giving free money to unproductive and illetrated minorities is more the European socialism. To confuse it, I rather say neo-socialism, because this has nothing to do with the real socialism.

[Elwar]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

[organofcorti]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

[Elwar]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

Everyone is the same?

[organofcorti]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

Everyone is the same?

Well, it would make it easier.

Why do you think atheism is a religion? It certainly doesn't espouse supernatural beliefs.

[Elwar]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

Everyone is the same?

Well, it would make it easier.

Why do you think atheism is a religion? It certainly doesn't espouse supernatural beliefs.

Just the sheer amount of people that are always trying to convert me to athiesm.

[Losvienleg]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

Atheism isn't a religion because there's no God and ritual practices, which define a religion. They also doesn't have a "book" to rely on.

[Elwar]

I have some friends that are always trying to convert me to their athiesm religion. I'm just not convinced. But they do proselytize quite a bit.

It's interesting that while most theists here call atheists "anti-religion", other theists call it a religion. It rather confusing, so can you guys present us with a unified front?

Atheism isn't a religion because there's no God and ritual practices, which define a religion. They also doesn't have a "book" to rely on.

There are no atheism books? No meetings or conventions/gatherings? No common beliefs which are espoused by respected elders for others to follow during their path to becoming the best atheist they can be?

[eon89]

become the best atheist you can be. That's funny.

[Elwar]

become the best atheist you can be. That's funny.

With some work, you too can become a better atheist.

You can start here:
Top 10 Books that Made Me a Better Atheist

[eon89]

become the best atheist you can be. That's funny.

With some work, you too can become a better atheist.

You can start here:
Top 10 Books that Made Me a Better Atheist

You know what? I'll take you up on that and start reading them.

[Moloch]

1) Socialism is a no-brainer for intelligent people - it just makes sense to help those less fortunate than yourself

implying those who disagree with socialism are less intelligent than you when you can't even use the word correctly in a sentence, socialism is a system where the means of production are owned by the whole community and workers get to keep more of what they produce instead of having it taken awsy from them by a capitalist class of exploiters, it is not giving free things to scroungers and unproductive minorities

Giving free money to unproductive and illetrated minorities is more the European socialism. To confuse it, I rather say neo-socialism, because this has nothing to do with the real socialism.

I'm sorry you were misinformed about what socialism actually is... try doing a little research before buying the bullshit propaganda you were spoon-fed as a child

I didn't make the claim that Atheists are Socialists... I'm only pointing out that you guys know nothing about socialism beyond the propaganda in your elementary school textbooks

[designerusa]

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

hahahah, yes i agree with you this world is too crazy to have a child.. religion sucks my brain too.. i will be a retarded till the end of my life..

[blackbird307]

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

hahahah, yes i agree with you this world is too crazy to have a child.. religion sucks my brain too.. i will be a retarded till the end of my life..

You do not have to get like that. Just push religion aside from your life. You will live better.

[Spendulus]

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

hahahah, yes i agree with you this world is too crazy to have a child.. religion sucks my brain too.. i will be a retarded till the end of my life..

I was also, at one time, said to be one of the smart people.  Then I realized, all on my own, how really stupid they were.   Then I realized I was different.  My IQ was going sideways.  Theirs were up, down, and mine was a line in a sparse matrix called sudoko being played by ignorant monkeys with pencils.  Suddenly I got interested in erasers, Eraser Head, and E Racers.  Grand Theft Auto rules!  Now my goal is to do some jobs for the big guy, get wheels and a dame, maybe a pad.

[BADecker]

Atheism is poison, but only to atheists and those who follow atheism.   

[Moloch]

How embarrassing it must be to have tools like BADecker represent your religion?

[bonski]

Atheism is poison, but only to atheists and those who follow atheism.   

I think atheism is atheism is atheist is atheist they will follow what they believe and want they want to believe just like us Christians we will believe that God is real, and we respect each beliefs but what the point is some of the atheist doesn't respect us and they are always persecuting us.

[CoinCube]

Atheism is not a philosophy...
Atheism is the rejection of the Christian philosophy...
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Atheists don't believe anything in particular beyond, "Christianity is wrong"

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The only real difference between Christians and Atheists is...
Atheists do not need to have their morals dictated to them by God... we understand right from wrong without your book

I agree when you state that atheism is not a philosophy. My comment above was unclear let me restate.

Atheism is the rejection of religious philosophy. It is the nothingness that is created by the rejection of traditional values and morals. Atheism creates a void and that void tends to be filled. The path of least resistance is the embrace of Hedonism. If God is dead then everything becomes permitted.

The error is your belief that the rejection of religion is not detrimental when choosing between right and wrong. Kantianism, Aristotelianism, Stoicism are interesting moral philosophies but they are inefficient propagators limiting their relevance. Sure some few atheist may adopt something functional like Stoicism. Many more will likely fill that nothingness with something toxic. The embrace of Hedonism leads us to glorify or at least fail to criticize unhealthy behavior like the dating apocalypse. This destruction of traditional morality is probably the ultimate cause of the dramatic decline in wellbeing and fertility we see in atheists. Forced to choose a new moral code and left to their own devices many atheist choose poorly.
  
I watched the majority of that video you linked above. The first hour was dominated by two very articulate atheists ripping into the Catholic Church for horrific crimes committed in past by individuals acting in the name of the church and by the church itself. Since I am not Catholic I lost interest at a little over the 1 hour mark. I have argued elsewhere why ancient “body count” arguments are a poor metric.  

[CoinCube]

Societies need myths.  Religion is unifying people behind a common cause.  Atheists reject this myth because its irrational claims cannot be explained scientifically.

Today we have many replacements for the religion myth, making it obsolete.  
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Religion is an ancient relic that will eventually be abandoned as such.

Let me rephrase this argument. Societies need moral codes. Religion is about unifying people behind a common moral code. Atheists reject this moral code because its divine origin cannot be proven scientifically.

As of today we do not have a functional replacement for the common moral code provided by religion. This lack is evidenced by the reduced wellbeing, health and fertility of those who reject the traditional moral code in favor of atheism.

Religion is therefore an ancient relic that is likely to grow in power and influence as that those who reject it are unintentionally reducing their evolutionary fitness.

Todays western liberal atheism is a "posion" because it is an worldview that gives you and the group evolutionary disadvantages. Thus western liberal atheism societies will cease to exist and become replaced with societies with an evolutionary functional worldview. A evolutionary functional worldview does not have to be organised supernatural religion as "christian" or "muslim" it must however contain a set of values which makes the members live a evolutionary successfull life.
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Science does say how the world works and it does give you mental tools to solve particular problems but it does however not give you any values or instruction how to live your life whatsoever. For science it does not matter if you live or if you die or if you have a wife and family or if you become a drug addict. A successfull society must have someting more than science to guide its members in life.

Bingo we have a winner.

I would only add that I am not certain there is any evolutionarily functional worldview that does not include religion.  

Religion has been there from the beginnings of human culture. We have evolved and adapted in an environment with religion at its core. The idea that you can simply reject it without very deep thought on the consequences is foolish arrogance. The data in the opening post indicate that those choosing to do so end up suffering from this arrogance.

Whether you view religion as an adaptive code that developed with and shaped human history or as divine wisdom handed to us by a wiser being the conclusion is the same. As of today religion may be a requirement for a sustainable and evolutionarily functional worldview.