How will this change the world of mining?? GTX 1080 / 1070

[fredeq]

Paper launch is NOT "available" - though NVidia paper-launching the GTX 1080 less than a month before actual availability (presuming they meed the announced May 27 "available for sale" date) was semi-impressive.

I agree, I only wanted to point out that we will know by 1st of June for sure
I have a feeling that top Polaris will still outperform 390x. Hoping for a nice 480x.

According to the following link, "480x" is just 5% faster than the 390x.

http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks

Yep already seen those and pretty much what I have expected.
I have a hunch that polaris will be more energy efficient - and still 480x is not the same level as 1070, more like 1060.
Also wondering about the OC capabilities. Clock is much lower than on 1070, doubt they will give 1060 1,26Ghz core.

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[crysx]

hi all ...

its all just started ...

for the time being - this is the show to watch until its feasible to own ...

for any real hardcore miner with a farm - that is the logical next step ...

but then again ... some people have more money that sense ... so why not ...

#crysx

[tidus1097]

The new Nvidia card will not be much more improvement when it comes to mining I don't think. Its way overpriced for its output.

[fredeq]

Yeah and 1070 looks like a 980 in terms of TDP.
Not sure it will gain much by overclocking either.
From what I have seen in games, it feels like Maxwell in 14nm.

[Amph]

hi all ...

its all just started ...

for the time being - this is the show to watch until its feasible to own ...

for any real hardcore miner with a farm - that is the logical next step ...

but then again ... some people have more money that sense ... so why not ...

#crysx

i dobut big farm will switch to any new gpu any time soon, they would require a huge investment each time something new come out

also big farm have very cheap electricity, adding a bit of efficiency is not going to change muh for them

[adaseb]

So nobody has tried this 1070/1080 yet with ETH mining? It seems its already in stores.

[QuintLeo]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

[Mometaskers]

The new Nvidia card will not be much more improvement when it comes to mining I don't think. Its way overpriced for its output.

These new nVidia cards might be better for some mining algorithms, but not for the Etheruem mining.

[Amph]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

[Genoil]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

The maximum of the 1080 is 40MH, just like the max of 290 is 40MH, because of the bandwidth of 320GB/s (simply divide by 8KB/hash). I've heard through the grapvine that Pascal will be able (but does not yet) support (TLB) page sizes of 2MB and 8MB. When this would be enabled, we might finally see hashrates up to copyspeed (40MH) on NVidia. What we've seen with current drivers is much less; 650KH/s on Win7, 6MH/s on Win10 and 24MH/s on Linux (OpenCL).

[RastoMan]

Have you seen anybody achieve the 40 MH/s on the 290 or 390?

Why the 390x is the same speed as the 390?

[vaulter]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

The maximum of the 1080 is 40MH, just like the max of 290 is 40MH, because of the bandwidth of 320GB/s (simply divide by 8KB/hash). I've heard through the grapvine that Pascal will be able (but does not yet) support (TLB) page sizes of 2MB and 8MB. When this would be enabled, we might finally see hashrates up to copyspeed (40MH) on NVidia. What we've seen with current drivers is much less; 650KH/s on Win7, 6MH/s on Win10 and 24MH/s on Linux (OpenCL).

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

[Amph]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

The maximum of the 1080 is 40MH, just like the max of 290 is 40MH, because of the bandwidth of 320GB/s (simply divide by 8KB/hash). I've heard through the grapvine that Pascal will be able (but does not yet) support (TLB) page sizes of 2MB and 8MB. When this would be enabled, we might finally see hashrates up to copyspeed (40MH) on NVidia. What we've seen with current drivers is much less; 650KH/s on Win7, 6MH/s on Win10 and 24MH/s on Linux (OpenCL).

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

oh finally a good news, so 27 at 130w, do you have proof of the wattmeter? 27MH at 130w is very good, but apparently the nano is doing somehting like 20-22 at 80w, so it's not worse at all...

still they will be pretty expensive, so i would avoid buying right now, you can buy a 970 for cheap(230 euro, used) that does 20.5MH/140w

[vaulter]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

The maximum of the 1080 is 40MH, just like the max of 290 is 40MH, because of the bandwidth of 320GB/s (simply divide by 8KB/hash). I've heard through the grapvine that Pascal will be able (but does not yet) support (TLB) page sizes of 2MB and 8MB. When this would be enabled, we might finally see hashrates up to copyspeed (40MH) on NVidia. What we've seen with current drivers is much less; 650KH/s on Win7, 6MH/s on Win10 and 24MH/s on Linux (OpenCL).

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

oh finally a good news, so 27 at 130w, do you have proof of the wattmeter? 27MH at 130w is very good, but apparently the nano is doing somehting like 20-22 at 80w, so it's not worse at all...

still they will be pretty expensive, so i would avoid buying right now, you can buy a 970 for cheap(230 euro, used) that does 20.5MH/140w

Its nv-smi - didnt have time to catch with wattmeter - but thats stock - i think you could go lower with power target as you do with 970

[Amph]

Try finding a store with one IN STOCK.

 8-(



 Someone had a review unit they posted some ETH hashrates on - it was..... VERY VERY underwhelming, a 970 outhashes it.

 Not sure how much of that is "new drivers not optimised for OpenCL or CUDA compute yet" and how much of it is "archetecture changes made it work WORSE on Ethereum than NVidia cards already do"....

they perform surely better on any other algo, due too low consumption and better hash, so i think it may be true that it is just a matter of bad optimization, or lacking of something necessary

genoil said that their potential could be around 40MH, for the 1080, which would be an instant buy.....but anyway, still too pricy for my taste

The maximum of the 1080 is 40MH, just like the max of 290 is 40MH, because of the bandwidth of 320GB/s (simply divide by 8KB/hash). I've heard through the grapvine that Pascal will be able (but does not yet) support (TLB) page sizes of 2MB and 8MB. When this would be enabled, we might finally see hashrates up to copyspeed (40MH) on NVidia. What we've seen with current drivers is much less; 650KH/s on Win7, 6MH/s on Win10 and 24MH/s on Linux (OpenCL).

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

oh finally a good news, so 27 at 130w, do you have proof of the wattmeter? 27MH at 130w is very good, but apparently the nano is doing somehting like 20-22 at 80w, so it's not worse at all...

still they will be pretty expensive, so i would avoid buying right now, you can buy a 970 for cheap(230 euro, used) that does 20.5MH/140w

Its nv-smi - didnt have time to catch with wattmeter - but thats stock - i think you could go lower with power target as you do with 970

can you try to set tdp at 60% with msi afterburner? not sure if recognized yet, and then measure again with smi

smi is pretty accurate, but there is a 5% error, for example in my case it say 135w mining ethereum at 20.5MH per 970, but it's actually toward 140-145w maximum

[Bokelka]

Finally good news. I will hold on buying the AMD R9 390 and wait for the price of 1070 to drop to reasonable levels.

[Genoil]

26.7MH out of 32MH of full bandwidth is about 83%. That's what most cards approximately do. Still a mystery why the 1080 did only 24.5. Should be around 32MH if you take the 80% efficiency rule.

[antantti]

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

oh finally a good news, so 27 at 130w, do you have proof of the wattmeter? 27MH at 130w is very good, but apparently the nano is doing somehting like 20-22 at 80w, so it's not worse at all...

still they will be pretty expensive, so i would avoid buying right now, you can buy a 970 for cheap(230 euro, used) that does 20.5MH/140w

Its nv-smi - didnt have time to catch with wattmeter - but thats stock - i think you could go lower with power target as you do with 970

can you try to set tdp at 60% with msi afterburner? not sure if recognized yet, and then measure again with smi

smi is pretty accurate, but there is a 5% error, for example in my case it say 135w mining ethereum at 20.5MH per 970, but it's actually toward 140-145w maximum

vaulter, MSI afterburner 4.3.0 beta should have support for 1070/1080. Any chance you could try it?

[vaulter]

Ok folks - I have a bad news and a  good news - we won't see 40mhs on 1080... but I've tested 1070 today and for some reason - it does at 125-130w... 26.7mhs - so overall its very reasonable to buy if you consider price and resale value - its definitely better then fury nano (considering other algos
The only problem its in linux now and I dont know when they get wddm 1 driver working and whats happening with july release of Win 10 and wddm 2

oh finally a good news, so 27 at 130w, do you have proof of the wattmeter? 27MH at 130w is very good, but apparently the nano is doing somehting like 20-22 at 80w, so it's not worse at all...

still they will be pretty expensive, so i would avoid buying right now, you can buy a 970 for cheap(230 euro, used) that does 20.5MH/140w

Its nv-smi - didnt have time to catch with wattmeter - but thats stock - i think you could go lower with power target as you do with 970

can you try to set tdp at 60% with msi afterburner? not sure if recognized yet, and then measure again with smi

smi is pretty accurate, but there is a 5% error, for example in my case it say 135w mining ethereum at 20.5MH per 970, but it's actually toward 140-145w maximum

vaulter, MSI afterburner 4.3.0 beta should have support for 1070/1080. Any chance you could try it?

I can try it but not for ethereum - this perf is on linux only - there is no fix for windows yet (low hashrate)
And i dont know how to change power target under linux
But comparing with 970 i do get 140w with the same settings where i get 125w on 1070 at stock settings

[antantti]

smi-tool should work on linux as well.