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Author Topic: How will this change the world of mining?? GTX 1080 / 1070  (Read 134091 times)
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May 08, 2016, 07:32:35 AM
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Difficulty increase 10 fold?  With 1/3 the price at twice the speed...

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May 08, 2016, 07:55:59 AM
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More like 40% more speed at half the power of current NVidia cards used in mining, from the early benchmarks I've been seeing, *IF* their mining potential matches their increased clockrate.

 Have to see if the changes to the archetecture make them more efficient on some coins that current higher-end NVidia cards do NOT mine efficiently on like Ethereum.


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May 08, 2016, 09:55:19 AM
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Difficulty increase 10 fold?  With 1/3 the price at twice the speed...

WoW!

hype is really big with those cards I would recommend waiting a bit when they are out and get tested will see a post for sure on cryptominingblog
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May 08, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
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Completely and utterly irrelevant to bitcoin mining, so no. Moving thread to where it might be relevant.

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May 08, 2016, 10:49:30 AM
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The memory bandwidth does not increase, it is still 256bit for 1070. So even if the Core clock increase, it might not be faster.
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May 08, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
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The memory bandwidth does not increase, it is still 256bit for 1070. So even if the Core clock increase, it might not be faster.

on 970 it was 192+64, which is not the same thing as having a fully 256, so yes there is an increase
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May 08, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
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DDR ram is not good in random access..But the mem clock is higher. I expect etherum to run around 25-30MHASH.

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May 08, 2016, 05:17:55 PM
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DDR ram is not good in random access..But the mem clock is higher. I expect etherum to run around 25-30MHASH.

So that is slowly than the R9 390. R9 390 can run 27 MH/s if it is undervolt and underclock with similar power consumption.
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May 08, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
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DDR ram is not good in random access..But the mem clock is higher. I expect etherum to run around 25-30MHASH.

i'm expecting more toward 30, but for the 1070, not for the 1080

DDR ram is not good in random access..But the mem clock is higher. I expect etherum to run around 25-30MHASH.

So that is slowly than the R9 390. R9 390 can run 27 MH/s if it is undervolt and underclock with similar power consumption.

current amd will not have the same power consumption as the new nvidia, there is no way to do so, the new 1070 will consume half of one 970, 1080 as a target of 180w, so one 1070, should be 120 in target or less

so no matter how much you undervolt, you will not be able tor each that value
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May 08, 2016, 07:01:55 PM
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I'm curious how the 1070 will compare to the nanos.
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May 08, 2016, 07:23:24 PM
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If the memory bandwidth is similar or a bit faster, it might do 30 MH/s at 120W, that is better than 390.
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May 08, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
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This will change mining:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r9-480-perf-is-close-to-r9-390x.html
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May 08, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
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AMD Polaris 10 or the 480 just has 256 bit memory bus. So it might not be faster than 390 in the Etheruem mining.
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May 09, 2016, 05:27:05 AM
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My current planning is to build a new GTX970 rig (triple or quad, not sure yet, finding a GOOD triple-card motherboard is proving impossible as NOBODY wants to put slots in SANE places to allow for all 3 cards to get cooling air).

 I'll try it on Ethereum just to see, but it's not INTENDED to be an Ethereum miner except perhaps as a short-term "make back a little of the cost to build it" idea before I put it into it's REAL intended usage (similar to my existing triple GTX950 and double GTX960 rigs, but they'll have a couple months longer of mining before I switch them).


What I'm going to be REAL curious to see is what AMD comes up with on their top-end ZEN APUs for an on-chip GPU. Given the amount of shrink 14nm FinFet allows over their existing process, I would be supprised at less than 1024 stream units, and wouldn't be shocked at 1500ish...

 ... DESPITE announced plans to make the first Zen APUs at least octocore.


 With the clock rate increases the new process allows, I expect AMD to at least match NVidia's 30-40% clock rate jump on their next-gen gear - GPUs as well as CPUs/APUs - pretty much across the board, even on the first gen at the new node.



 Picture this for AMD's next "flagship" product. 6144 Stream units. Base clock around 1400 Mhz, boost more like 1600. Minor increases in IPU efficiency from already-announced "tweeks" to the architecture adding another 5-10% performance. TDP 20-40% lower than a Nano.

 Then they build the "dual" version, having to downclock 5% or so to avoid overheating.

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 Yes, 2016 and 2017 look to be VERY interesting times for new hardware in the cryptocoin mining arena.

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May 09, 2016, 06:05:25 AM
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my dilemma now, is do i need to sell my rig now and wait for the new gpu and so no mining for two month, until new ccminer come out, or better to keep mining until they come out, but risking to losing some % on my gpu sales?

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May 09, 2016, 06:40:39 AM
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my dilemma now, is do i need to sell my rig now and wait for the new gpu and so no mining for two month, until new ccminer come out, or better to keep mining until they come out, but risking to losing some % on my gpu sales?

I would keep mining untill the new cards are released
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May 09, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
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They will be too expensive for ETH mining. Not be worth the power efficiency in the end.
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May 09, 2016, 07:50:51 AM
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my dilemma now, is do i need to sell my rig now and wait for the new gpu and so no mining for two month, until new ccminer come out, or better to keep mining until they come out, but risking to losing some % on my gpu sales?

When those new graphics comes out, the price will be higher than the MRSP. So you still have time to sell your old cards.
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May 09, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
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They will be too expensive for ETH mining. Not be worth the power efficiency in the end.

it's not about power efficient only, they are also much faster up to 50%
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May 09, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
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They will be too expensive for ETH mining. Not be worth the power efficiency in the end.

it's not about power efficient only, they are also much faster up to 50%

If the memory access speed is not 50% faster, the Ethereum mining will not be 50% faster. I think it is just the power efficiency. We will find out next month.
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