[ANN][ANC] Anoncoin (anoncoin.net) | Privacy-centric currency | I2P darknet

[Cryptoslave]

ANONCOIN 0.9.6.13

Anoncoin Core & PurpleI2P present:

ANCI2Pd 1.0.13.0 - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle - 13 june 2017

The first stand-alone cryptocurrency and C++ I2Pd router bundle!

Featuring the latest version of Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 & i2pd 2.14.0

Easy to install, easy to use, your IP address is completely obfuscated by the I2P integration!

Recent deanonymization attacks that exploit weaknesses in the Bitcoin peer-to-peer (P2P) networking protocols are impossible for Anoncoin thanks to the I2P traffic routing.

Enjoy!

To install, just execute the self-extracting file, go in the chosen folder and then execute StartANCI2PdPortable.exe



ANCI2Pd 1.0.13.0 Windows version (32 bits) only:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.13.0


https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin
https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd

Special thanks to Orignal, R4SAS, Omen and all contributors from i2pd team and irc2p ru channel


For those who prefer the full installer over the anci2pd bundle:

Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 Setup for win32 and win64:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/5e441d8

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[Cryptoslave]

ANONCOIN 0.9.6.12

ANONCOIN NEW VERSION 0.9.6.12 RELEASED - 12 OCTOBER 2016 - HARDFORK @ BLOCK 585555

We announce the official release of the new master based on Anoncoin 0.9.6.12.

This new version (v0.9.6.12-3fd47af) is an obligatory update of Anoncoin with an HARDFORK @ block 585555

Featured changes in this version are the following:

Difficulty algorithm tuned:
- PID tuning to make diff adjustment less aggressive:
      NMAXDIFFINCREASE "200" -> 150 (less difficulty increase, to avoid huge spike in diff)
      NMAXDIFFDECREASE "170" -> 130 (less difficulty decrease, to avoid lots of easy mined block)
      DMININTEGRATOR 170 -> 176 (less difficulty increase on long term because it is not needed as testnet showed)
      DMAXINTEGRATOR 190 -> 195 (more difficulty decrease as we have seen multipool jumping on/off in long term slow the blockchain)
      WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_UP 4 -> 9 (taking more blocks into the average up slow down diff increase and avoid huge spike in diff)
      WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_DOWN 6 -> 20 (taking much more blocks into the average down slow down the difficulty decrease and hence avoid too many easy blocks in a row)
      PID_PROPORTIONALGAIN 1.7 -> 1.6 (reduce aggressiveness of proportional term)
      PID_INTEGRATORTIME 172800 -> 129600 (integral term of 1.5 day to adjust quickly to abnormal number of emitted block)
      PID_INTEGRATORGAIN 5 -> 8 (the integral term now has more weight in the difficulty calculation, the ranges are respectively of (180-176)*8=32 vs 50 for difficulty going up and of (195-180)*8=120 vs 50 for difficulty going down. So compared to the previous settings, the difficulty can adjust more readily to a slow blockchain to achieve 180 sec avg per block.)
     PID_DERIVATIVEGAIN 0 -> 3 (adjust quickly to change of block time ie at apex of difficulty it will drop quicker, and at lowest turn up quicker)

- Auto-adjustment of difficulty via getblocktemplate to a low one if no block is found in 30 minutes

- The difficulty is now expressed again into a positive >1 number, because people and services complained of 0-1 range

- Blockchain synchronization issues fix (in case no block is found for a long time because of miner exodus, mining will be allowed up to one week old unsynchronized chain)

- Bug because of toolchain build of protobuf solved


Old version featured the following:

- Full I2P-SAM support
- An upgraded to bitcoin 0.10.99 code
- Many excellent improvements such as for instance header-first synchronisation, leading to much quicker I2P synchronisation and block download
- Deterministic fork selection
- A rewritten communication protocol (I2P and clearnet)
- No more using IRC for synching peers
- Anoncoin's test network (testnet) and regression test mode (regtest) available
- A new Kimoto Gravity Well v 2.0 using curves that is much quicker to calculate (it will be useful only for blocks before the hardfork and for first synching as KGW will be obsoleted by PID)
- A second new innovative difficulty algo "GroundRod RetargetPID" using a PID (Proportional - Integral - Derivative) controller, that will be enforced at block 555555 as the new difficulty retargetting system
- Real hashes calculation and not pseudo difficulty (we will be the only Scrypt coin to use true hashes in calculus of difficulty)
- Multisig Anoncoin address
- An improved mining through I2P only, to go forward a fully I2P darknet coin
- Themes support in anoncoin-qtt (currently for Win32, OS-X and linux, not for win64)
- SAM support ported to 0.10.99 and working with both Java and C++ implementation of I2P (Orignal's i2pd, LibI2Pd)
- New I2P and DNS seednodes
- Headless building with toolchain
- New alert key management
- Auto generation of I2P addresses provided the java I2P router is configured with default options during setup
- Bug fixes

Every Anoncoin user shall update to this 9.6.12 version ASAP. This is a mandatory upgrade, as after block 585555 the old peers will be disconnected. The version 9.6.11 will be obsolete when the HARDFORK block 585555 will be mined. This will occur the 27 October or in about 2 weeks.

To update to the new version (v0.9.6.12-3fd47af), simply rebuild master following this guide:
To build from source: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source

Windows build are available here:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/v0.9.6.12

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/download/v0.9.6.12/anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win64-setup.exe
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win64-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 AC0B96AB335BE6E7E78B7D325AF4EBB3 SHA-1 DDB9A4BF777A870D874D872FCB381EF05FBF5E38

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/download/v0.9.6.12/anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win32-setup.exe
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win32-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 564AE5FAC81FC550389071FB9C2BF927 SHA-1 7F7A9E2C303682EA9056DA55136D25C391BE3873

CS

About Anoncoin:
 
- Launch date: June 6, 2013.
- Type: Proof of work with Scrypt hashing algorithm.
- Total coin supply: 3,103,954 ANC.
- Block target speed: 3 minutes (before block 87777, it was every 3.42 minutes)
- Block difficulty retargeting:
        Block 555555 upward: GroundRod Retarget PID - retarget every block using Proportional-Integrative-Derivative developed in house by GroundRod algorithm
        Block 555554-87777: Kimoto Gravity Well - retarget every block
        Block 87777-1: ~1680 blocks using classic BTC algorithm
- Premine: 1000 blocks (4200 ANC) that were returned to the community by community donations and a public faucet.
- Anonymity: Built in support of I2P and Tor. Zerocoin to be implemented in a future release.
- Current block reward: 2.5 ANC per block.
- Block reward schedule: 4.2 ANC for blocks until 42,000; 7 ANC until block 77,777; a 10 ANC bonus block for 77778; 5 ANC until block 306,600; and then halving of block rewards every 306,600 blocks (approximately every 638 days).

Official windows and OSX builds: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/v0.9.6.12
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win64-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 AC0B96AB335BE6E7E78B7D325AF4EBB3 SHA-1 DDB9A4BF777A870D874D872FCB381EF05FBF5E38
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win32-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 564AE5FAC81FC550389071FB9C2BF927 SHA-1 7F7A9E2C303682EA9056DA55136D25C391BE3873

To build from source: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source

Exchanges:

Clearnet:
Nova Exchange ANC/BTC. correct chain!


Darknet:
Exchanged.I2P (link needs I2P client). First Ever Darknet CryptoCurrency Exchange. Trade altcoins anonymously. ANC/BTC.
Clearnet proxy link correct chain!
Tor correct chain!
I2p correct chain!
Bitcointalk thread

Charts:
Sosobtc ANC/CNY BTC38
Dc-charts ANC/CNY BTC38

Marketcap and mining difficulty
CoinGecko
CoinMarketcap
Coinwarz shall update

Block explorers
Cryptoid
Dark Gamex

Mining Pools
hash-to-coins.com correct chain!
prohashing.com correct chain!
tompool.org correct chain!
xpool.net P2Pool correct chain!
ypool.ga correct chain!
correct chain!

[url=http://ispace.co.uk/]ispace.co.uk disabled
multipool.us disabled

I2P powered


With full mining compatibility over I2P, I2P darknet exchange (ExchangeD.i2p) and complete I2P integration built in the wallet, Anoncoin can gives a full experience of the I2P darknet.

TOR powered

GitHub link: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/v0.9.6.12

Official site: https://anoncoin.net/

Official wiki: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

A message from Meeh concerning the change of leadership

Previous threads:
Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)
Official Anoncoin Information, FAQ & Description thread. I2P/Tor explained [Mod]

Special thanks to our developers and long term fans: Meeh, K1773R, BroTroxer, Gnosis, Lunokhod, Cryptoslave, GroundRod, Mrebum, Abyss, Ssuag, Orignal, Alacast, Geekz, N00n & all others

This build could not have been done without the long term commitment and excellent work of GroundRod who updated all the codebase to 0.10.99, developed the difficulty retarget algorithm GroundRod PID, reworked SAM support, reworked the communication protocol, implemented the regtest mode, developed a new alert key management, worked on the test suites and implemented the toolchain build.

[Cryptoslave]

Guide to install I2P and run Anoncoin 0.9.6.12 anonymously through I2P:

Quick summary worth a read, especially if you had a previous 8.5.6 installation If there was a previous installation of Anoncoin 8.5.6, delete everything in anoncoin data directory BUT KEEP WALLET.DAT

Graphical guide to install I2P on windows and configure the SAM bridge to run Anoncoin on I2P

Graphical guide to install Anoncoin on windows and configure Anoncoin with the anoncoin.conf file

How to build anoncoin from source

Text guide to install and start I2P on Linux systems using CLI

Using the command line to generate a random anoncoin address and run anoncoind with I2P

Classic wallet during the header-first synchronisation:



Classic wallet showing mixed mode connections to clearnet and I2P:



GroundRod Retarget PID information

Follow the link if you want to read more on the new difficulty retarget system employed by Anoncoin from block 585555

[Godson_Mansa]

welcome to 2014. were anon coins are all the rage.

[jwinterm]

Nice. Glad to see continued development

[generous]

supply? wallet? ico?

[entertheabyss]

Now Trading Anonymously on ExchangeD.I2P

ExchangeD.I2P (link needs I2P client). First Ever Darknet CryptoCurrency Exchange. Trade altcoins anonymously. ANC/BTC. Clearnet proxy link.

[Scott J]

Does this coin still plan to introduce the zerocoin tech?

Any details on this would be greatly appreciated

[konstant111]

ICO?

[steve321]

AnonCoin blockchain, freshly synced, is available for download at CryptoChainer.com.  This snapshot is from the new wallet.  This is a very old coin, and takes nearly forever to sync from scratch.

[Cryptoslave]

AnonCoin blockchain, freshly synced, is available for download at CryptoChainer.com.  This snapshot is from the new wallet.  This is a very old coin, and takes nearly forever to sync from scratch.

Hi steve321,

http://216.14.113.56/cryptochainer.chains/chains/AnonCoin_blockchain.zip : The requested URL /cryptochainer.chains/chains/AnonCoin_blockchain.zip was not found on this server.

Also, it may have been the case the blockchain was slow to synch on 0.8.5.6, but with this new client 0.9.6.11 featuring Headers-first synchronisation it is much more quick!

Here is a test I did today:

21h50: start a freshly installed Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 64 bit with no blockchain and no bootstrap.dat, on a win7 laptop

21h50-23h30: Synchronisation of the block-headers takes 1h40 (see the first part of the graph, with smallest bandwidth).
It may seems the client is doing nothing as the blocks increment slowly, but the progress can be followed by checking the bandwidth use or by typing 'getchaintips' in the debug console.



23h30: begin block download from 16 peers in parallel (the blocks increment quickly and bandwidth increase alot). Header-first synchronisation as adapted in Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 download the headers from 2 peers in parallel but the blocks from all the peers, here from 16 peers which is the max outbound connections possible.



1h30: Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 was fully synched after 3h40 and 506 MB.



So I would not say "this coin takes nearly forever to sync from scratch!"

Synching through an I2P-only session takes about three time as long without bootstrap. The bootstrap can be downloaded following those instructions.

[Cryptoslave]

Does this coin still plan to introduce the zerocoin tech?

Any details on this would be greatly appreciated

Since 2014 and the price crash, Gnosis went away for more than a year. The coin development went almost to a halt because Meeh and Gnosis were both absent. Fortunately, following calls to the community by Lunokhod and me, GroundRod stepped in as the new Lead Developer in early 2015. GroundRod started first by reworking all the code to bitcoin 0.9.x then later up to Bitcoin 0.10.99 codebase. In doing so he put alot of new functionnality from Bitcoin and repaired the many problems the old Anoncoin wallet 0.8.5.6 has such as poor protocol communication, I2P SAM module issues, innacurate transaction fees and the crap difficulty algo KGW was removed for a PID at next Hardfork. I helped him by giving idea and debugging this new wallet last year until he went away in September 2015. Then development stopped until I finished the GroundRod 0.9.6.9 build with the help of Orignal (C++ I2P router i2pd dev). This led to this very 0.9.6.11 build. A few months ago, Gnosis went back to the team with a friend of him, Ssuag. They plan to both finish the zerocoin implementation, Gnosis for the main Zerocoin code and Ssuag for Zerocoin GUI in Anoncoin. We believe in trustless mixing on the blockchain. Right now we acknowledge as good trustless option only Zerocoin and CoinShuffle. Compared to zcash, which use a one-out-of-many to trust setup, or even to the failed zerocoin implementation such as in zerovert, zerocoin in anoncoin will be setup in a trustless manner using RSA UFOs (generalized RSA moduli of unknown complete factorization) which Gnosis did generate previously.

In fact the development schedule can be found on the wiki. Release A is finished and is this very build with hardfork@block 555555. Release B is worked upon by me currently and will feature multi-POW (YEScrypt, Lyra2RE2, Scrypt) to have CPU-GPU-ASIC mining on the Anoncoin network. Release C will be zerocoin with RSA-UFO by Gnosis and Ssuag.

[causestud]

any bounties for translations devs? thanks and good luck on your new dev team takeover

[Scott J]

Does this coin still plan to introduce the zerocoin tech?

Any details on this would be greatly appreciated

Since 2014 and the price crash, Gnosis went away for more than a year. The coin development went almost to a halt because Meeh and Gnosis were both absent. Fortunately, following calls to the community by Lunokhod and me, GroundRod stepped in as the new Lead Developer in early 2015. GroundRod started first by reworking all the code to bitcoin 0.9.x then later up to Bitcoin 0.10.99 codebase. In doing so he put alot of new functionnality from Bitcoin and repaired the many problems the old Anoncoin wallet 0.8.5.6 has such as poor protocol communication, I2P SAM module issues, innacurate transaction fees and the crap difficulty algo KGW was removed for a PID at next Hardfork. I helped him by giving idea and debugging this new wallet last year until he went away in September 2015. Then development stopped until I finished the GroundRod 0.9.6.9 build with the help of Orignal (C++ I2P router i2pd dev). This led to this very 0.9.6.11 build. A few months ago, Gnosis went back to the team with a friend of him, Ssuag. They plan to both finish the zerocoin implementation, Gnosis for the main Zerocoin code and Ssuag for Zerocoin GUI in Anoncoin. We believe in trustless mixing on the blockchain. Right now we acknowledge as good trustless option only Zerocoin and CoinShuffle. Compared to zcash, which use a one-out-of-many to trust setup, or even to the failed zerocoin implementation such as in zerovert, zerocoin in anoncoin will be setup in a trustless manner using RSA UFOs (generalized RSA moduli of unknown complete factorization) which Gnosis did generate previously.

In fact the development schedule can be found on the wiki. Release A is finished and is this very build with hardfork@block 555555. Release B is worked upon by me currently and will feature multi-POW (YEScrypt, Lyra2RE2, Scrypt) to have CPU-GPU-ASIC mining on the Anoncoin network. Release C will be zerocoin with RSA-UFO by Gnosis and Ssuag.

Thanks for the detailed update!

I'm glad to see work progressing here

[tomothy]

Hey Cryptoslave, Do you have an eta as to when we will hit block that results in hard fork? I thought it was early June but recognize that could just be the original launch. Also, have there been any discussion about getting re-listed post hard fork on any exchanges? I'm assuming this hardfork will also fix the stuck coin issue (i.e., cryptsy screwing up broadcast, having to get rawtxid, begging killer or another miner to mine stuck transaction?). Thanks again. Haven't stopped never stopping lol.

[Cryptoslave]

Hey Cryptoslave, Do you have an eta as to when we will hit block that results in hard fork? I thought it was early June but recognize that could just be the original launch. Also, have there been any discussion about getting re-listed post hard fork on any exchanges? I'm assuming this hardfork will also fix the stuck coin issue (i.e., cryptsy screwing up broadcast, having to get rawtxid, begging killer or another miner to mine stuck transaction?). Thanks again. Haven't stopped never stopping lol.

Hi tomothy

It will fork in 19440 blocks, which shall be around Wednesday 6 July 2016, at 8h30 GMT.

I asked Bittrex but they seems to not look forward to as there was not much volume before (because all volume for western market was on Crapsy, sadly). Also exchanges still remember the TX fees problems and they don't like this, although some like BTC38 or exchangeD or Cryptopia never complained of this. And Crapsy we know was using this bad TX broadcasting as an excuse to cover their scam, they also did it with several coin to pay BigVern is 1.5 million house he gave to his wife and divorced so gov cannot take it away from him when he will get hopefully sued for fraud. So basically every ANC holder on Crapsy (there were 350000 ANC iirc) paid for BigVern swimming pool and he made up the TX bad broadcasting as an excuse. But then Bittrex also complained so I cannot think they did not have some problem at some point. Nevertheless now the TX fee logic and IPV4/I2P connectivity is completely fixed and I also have put back an hidden feature in the console called 'resendwallettransactions'.

Code:

23:56:37

help resendwallettransactions


23:56:37

resendwallettransactions

Immediately re-broadcast unconfirmed wallet transactions to all peers.
Note: the wallet code periodically re-broadcasts automatically.
Returns: array of transaction ids that were re-broadcast.

Thank you for your long term care about Anoncoin

[sorrros]

This all looks excellent! Thanks guys for your time and efforts in this project - you rock!

[sorrros]

This all looks excellent! Thanks guys for your time and efforts in this project - you rock!

Looks excellent and works perfectly, the screens with traffic and peers are quite nice.

[Tommo_Aus]

Running the latest wallet synced to the same block as https://prohashing.com/explorer/Anoncoin but my wallet is reporting 0.00000135 difficulty?

[sunsofdust]

Running the latest wallet synced to the same block as https://prohashing.com/explorer/Anoncoin but my wallet is reporting 0.00000135 difficulty?

Since I update to v0.9.6.11-eaf7af2 I am seeing the same thing for all the blocks.

getmininginfo
{
"blocks" : 538434,
"currentblocksize" : 0,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000135,
"errors" : "This is a HARDFORK build for block 555555",
"genproclimit" : -1,
"networkhashps" : 3302921396,
"pooledtx" : 1,
"chain" : "main",
"generate" : false
}

[Cryptoslave]

Running the latest wallet synced to the same block as https://prohashing.com/explorer/Anoncoin but my wallet is reporting 0.00000135 difficulty?

Since I update to v0.9.6.11-eaf7af2 I am seeing the same thing for all the blocks.

getmininginfo
{
"blocks" : 538434,
"currentblocksize" : 0,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000135,
"errors" : "This is a HARDFORK build for block 555555",
"genproclimit" : -1,
"networkhashps" : 3302921396,
"pooledtx" : 1,
"chain" : "main",
"generate" : false
}

Hi,

Yes that is right. The difficulty displayed is a difficulty number between 0 and 1, relative to the minimum difficulty equal to 1, which becomes more difficult the smaller it is.

Code:

00:28:14

help getdifficulty


00:28:14

getdifficulty

Returns the proof-of-work required difficulty now at the tip of the block chain.

Result:
n.nnn (numeric) The minimum difficulty is defined as 1 and this result is linear relative to that value.
Smaller values indicate harder, larger an easier difficulty and all blocks will have a value < 1.

Examples:
> anoncoin-cli getdifficulty 
> curl --user myusername --data-binary '{"jsonrpc": "1.0", "id":"curltest", "method": "getdifficulty", "params": [] }' -H 'content-type: text/plain;' http://127.0.0.1:9376/

You can see it changing from block to block too, obviously.

Code:

00:09:03

getchaintips


00:09:04

[
{
"height" : 538504,
"hash" : "0000000000d929ff1592eb4adecb1d1e9d733510a3e984c995be35108903ab7e",
"shad" : "b0201d1fe8e462f6a6ed56090d9974435357bc14d79149065b623a3eba12a266",
"branchlen" : 0,
"status" : "active"
}
]


00:09:06

getdifficulty


00:09:06

0.00000135



00:17:59

getdifficulty


00:17:59

0.00000139

If you run cgminer against anoncoin you will see the difficulty moving in the reverse way, in this case the higher it is the more difficult it is. Cgminer made his own interpretation of the block difficulty, which did not change between the wallet version.

Code:

Connected to 127.0.0.1 diff 11.8M without LP as user Cryptoslave
Block: b381edee13ef64ef...  Diff:11.8M Started: [00:13:58]  Best share: 13

 [2016-06-01 00:22:53] Network diff set to 11.5M
 [2016-06-01 00:22:53] New block detected on network
 [2016-06-01 00:23:21] Network diff set to 11.8M
 [2016-06-01 00:23:21] New block detected on network

The old wallet displayed the difficulty as a number which was a multiple of the minimum difficulty. That is why you cannot directly tell what difficulty relates to the old wallet difficulty for the user, as they are displayed differently, but the difficulty algorithms (Kimoto Gravity Well v2 and GroundRod Retarget PID) understand the difficulty very well, as the proof-of-work required difficulty algorithm did not change between KGW v1 and KGW v2. But after block 555555 with the change of the difficulty algorithm to GroundRod PID, the way the proof-of-work required is calculated will change and this is the reason why this is an hardfork.
In truth the PID Difficulty is a number of 256 bits such as 0x00000000010a2d19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999, and the PID use this number as it is, but the displayed number by getdifficulty was simplified as shown above.

[Conqueror]

New wallet is great, thanks for all the work on it!

[hananl1styo]

translation for indonesian

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1500646.0

[Tommo_Aus]

Running the latest wallet synced to the same block as https://prohashing.com/explorer/Anoncoin but my wallet is reporting 0.00000135 difficulty?

Since I update to v0.9.6.11-eaf7af2 I am seeing the same thing for all the blocks.

getmininginfo
{
"blocks" : 538434,
"currentblocksize" : 0,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000135,
"errors" : "This is a HARDFORK build for block 555555",
"genproclimit" : -1,
"networkhashps" : 3302921396,
"pooledtx" : 1,
"chain" : "main",
"generate" : false
}

Hi,

Yes that is right. The difficulty displayed is a difficulty number between 0 and 1, relative to the minimum difficulty equal to 1, which becomes more difficult the smaller it is.

So after block 555 555 we'll see the standard difficulty number or will it still be between 0 and 1? How do we get a comparable scrypt difficulty?

[shojayxt]

People need to learn how to read the ANN.  It really isn't that hard and the answers to these questions are there.

supply? wallet? ico?

ICO?

[MickyCOB]

New wallet looks great   

[Cryptoslave]

So after block 555 555 we'll see the standard difficulty number or will it still be between 0 and 1? How do we get a comparable scrypt difficulty?

The standard difficulty will from now on be always between 1 and 0. This is what the PID is programmed to use, and is the target requested by the block at the tip.
1 is the lowest difficulty.
The more leading zero there is after the decimal separator, the more difficult it is to find a block.
The lower the significant figure, at constant number of leading zero, the more difficult it is.
Difficulty zero will never happen, but could be displayed if hashrate reach thousands of GH/s, because in fact the difficulty as displayed by getdifficulty is just a troncated representation of the minimum hexadecimal target to find the block at the tip of the chain, which is a 256 bit number.

I am sure people will get habituated, meanwhile just use the reciprocal, ie 1/difficulty to get an idea.

Otherwise, your miner program will display the difficulty in the reciprocal format.

[Tommo_Aus]

So after block 555 555 we'll see the standard difficulty number or will it still be between 0 and 1? How do we get a comparable scrypt difficulty?

The standard difficulty will from now on be always between 1 and 0. This is what the PID is programmed to use, and is the target requested by the block at the tip.
1 is the lowest difficulty.
The more leading zero there is after the decimal separator, the more difficult it is to find a block.
The lower the significant figure, at constant number of leading zero, the more difficult it is.
Difficulty zero will never happen, but could be displayed if hashrate reach thousands of GH/s, because in fact the difficulty as displayed by getdifficulty is just a troncated representation of the minimum hexadecimal target to find the block at the tip of the chain, which is a 256 bit number.

I am sure people will get habituated, meanwhile just use the reciprocal, ie 1/difficulty to get an idea.

Otherwise, your miner program will display the difficulty in the reciprocal format.

Ok... so to compare ANC difficulty to other scrypt coins?

[Cryptoslave]

This is a Scrypt coin, obviously nothing was changed has to how much the hashrate and proof of work target are related to maintain the targetspacing for a typical average network hashrate.

If you want to use a value for your Scrypt multipool automatic switching to the most profitable coin, I leave it to yourself to calculate the best profitability vs other coin. All the difficulty values are in fact not comparable already, being different for different target spacing, and to use the reciprocal of anoncoin difficulty in your jumping script is not difficult. I will not help you further for that as we prefer to support the long term miner over multipools, and also because I do not see what issue you have in this.

So after block 555 555 we'll see the standard difficulty number or will it still be between 0 and 1? How do we get a comparable scrypt difficulty?

The standard difficulty will from now on be always between 1 and 0. This is what the PID is programmed to use, and is the target requested by the block at the tip.
1 is the lowest difficulty.
The more leading zero there is after the decimal separator, the more difficult it is to find a block.
The lower the significant figure, at constant number of leading zero, the more difficult it is.
Difficulty zero will never happen, but could be displayed if hashrate reach thousands of GH/s, because in fact the difficulty as displayed by getdifficulty is just a troncated representation of the minimum hexadecimal target to find the block at the tip of the chain, which is a 256 bit number.

I am sure people will get habituated, meanwhile just use the reciprocal, ie 1/difficulty to get an idea.

Otherwise, your miner program will display the difficulty in the reciprocal format.

Ok... so to compare ANC difficulty to other scrypt coins?

[Cryptoslave]

This is a Scrypt coin, obviously nothing was changed has to how much the hashrate and proof of work target are related to maintain the targetspacing for a typical average network hashrate.

If you want to use a value for your Scrypt multipool automatic switching to the most profitable coin, I leave it to yourself to calculate the best profitability vs other coin. All the difficulty values are in fact not comparable already, being different for different target spacing, and to use the reciprocal of anoncoin difficulty in your jumping script is not difficult. I will not help you further for that as we prefer to support the long term miner over multipools, and also because I do not see what issue you have in this.

So after block 555 555 we'll see the standard difficulty number or will it still be between 0 and 1? How do we get a comparable scrypt difficulty?

The standard difficulty will from now on be always between 1 and 0. This is what the PID is programmed to use, and is the target requested by the block at the tip.
1 is the lowest difficulty.
The more leading zero there is after the decimal separator, the more difficult it is to find a block.
The lower the significant figure, at constant number of leading zero, the more difficult it is.
Difficulty zero will never happen, but could be displayed if hashrate reach thousands of GH/s, because in fact the difficulty as displayed by getdifficulty is just a troncated representation of the minimum hexadecimal target to find the block at the tip of the chain, which is a 256 bit number.

I am sure people will get habituated, meanwhile just use the reciprocal, ie 1/difficulty to get an idea.

Otherwise, your miner program will display the difficulty in the reciprocal format.

Ok... so to compare ANC difficulty to other scrypt coins?

OK I understood your question, which indeed was a meaningful question! Thank you to have asked it. 

The new command 'getnetworkhashps' is what you need to get the most accurate approximation.

Code:

02:59:18

help getnetworkhashps


02:59:18

getnetworkhashps [blocks] [height]

Returns the estimated network hashes per second, optionally for a given height and based on the last n blocks.

Arguments:
1. blocks (numeric, optional, default='tipfiltersize') Hint: The 'getretargetpid 1' query tells you the tip filters size.
2. height (numeric, optional, default=0) Default to current chain tip, or specify at what height the calculation is to be made.

NOTES: Block spacing is measured, so at least 2 blocks are needed to calculate one spacing interval, the more the better.
Pass in [height] to estimate the network speed at the time when a certain block was mined. Pass in [blocks] to override the # of
blocks used in the calculation, any value < 2 sets the min of 2 blocks. Expect a poor estimate, with so few.

Result:
(numeric) Estimated hashes per second, the calculation made is the chain work proofs (latest - oldest) / time delta.

Examples:
> anoncoin-cli getnetworkhashps 
> anoncoin-cli getnetworkhashps 200 350000
> curl --user myusername --data-binary '{"jsonrpc": "1.0", "id":"curltest", "method": "getnetworkhashps", "params": [] }' -H 'content-type: text/plain;' http://127.0.0.1:9376/
> curl --user myusername --data-binary '{"jsonrpc": "1.0", "id":"curltest", "method": "getnetworkhashps", "params": [5000,390000] }' -H 'content-type: text/plain;' http://127.0.0.1:9376/

By default, it use the tipfilter size which is 21 block, but then the value will fluctuate according to the time it took to find those 21 blocks as given by the TipsAvg. If you want to know on a broader timescale, you shall use at least 120 blocks, which is the last 6 hours average. You can see from the GroundRod PID graphs that both the TipsAvg and Difficulty value will be then precise enough for the calculation of the getnetworkhashps.

Code:

03:15:02

getnetworkhashps


03:15:02

3268971239


03:15:04

getnetworkhashps 21


03:15:04

3268971239


03:15:06

getnetworkhashps 2


03:15:06

393059443


03:15:10

getnetworkhashps 120


03:15:10

4120719633


03:15:16

getnetworkhashps 480


03:15:16

3780644272

The value of your hashrate, divided by the 'getnetworkhashps' value will be the most precise to know how much percentage blocks you shall get on a time period, especially after the PID is activated which shall render the mining much more stable on a several blocks time period than KGW.

[HPt]

Is there a working blockchain explorer for Anoncoin? (The blockchain explorers listed at https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Block_chain_explorers are either out of date or not available at all.)

[jwinterm]

Is there a working blockchain explorer for Anoncoin? (The blockchain explorers listed at https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Block_chain_explorers are either out of date or not available at all.)

There's at least a crappy one here:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/BlockExplorer?id=190

[Cryptoslave]

Is there a working blockchain explorer for Anoncoin? (The blockchain explorers listed at https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Block_chain_explorers are either out of date or not available at all.)

There's at least a crappy one here:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/BlockExplorer?id=190

We have updated the https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Block_chain_explorers page and have three working explorer now.

[geometric_series]

Great to see the new version wallet ,that means the dev is still working on this coin.

[smarterhash]

nodes please?

[CartmanSPC]

Thank you for putting the fork at least a month out...I don't follow every coin closely and only just now realized ANC was forking by chance from another thread (myriad). Hate it when coins decide to fork and only give a couple weeks notice. Now I got to get to work compiling the new version in Linux...tomorrow.

Edit: Compiled with no issues.

[manfred87]

so cryptopia is still on chain v0.8.5.1-132-g73a4219-beta, did you contact them?

The old wallet displayed the difficulty as a number which was a multiple of the minimum difficulty. That is why you cannot directly tell what difficulty relates to the old wallet difficulty for the user, as they are displayed differently, but the difficulty algorithms (Kimoto Gravity Well v2 and GroundRod Retarget PID) understand the difficulty very well, as the proof-of-work required difficulty algorithm did not change between KGW v1 and KGW v2. But after block 555555 with the change of the difficulty algorithm to GroundRod PID, the way the proof-of-work required is calculated will change and this is the reason why this is an hardfork.
In truth the PID Difficulty is a number of 256 bits such as 0x00000000010a2d19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999, and the PID use this number as it is, but the displayed number by getdifficulty was simplified as shown above.

so will pools have to change something after block 555555? ( will stratum difficulty change etc? )

nodes please?

-addnode=109.133.156.15:49362
-addnode=211.149.175.37:52736
-addnode=84.55.23.199:55863
-addnode=211.149.175.37:51950
-addnode=192.99.13.67:54869
-addnode=108.61.10.90:56562

[Cryptoslave]

so cryptopia is still on chain v0.8.5.1-132-g73a4219-beta, did you contact them?

Thank you for noticing, yes I contacted them again today and they are upgrading now.

The old wallet displayed the difficulty as a number which was a multiple of the minimum difficulty. That is why you cannot directly tell what difficulty relates to the old wallet difficulty for the user, as they are displayed differently, but the difficulty algorithms (Kimoto Gravity Well v2 and GroundRod Retarget PID) understand the difficulty very well, as the proof-of-work required difficulty algorithm did not change between KGW v1 and KGW v2. But after block 555555 with the change of the difficulty algorithm to GroundRod PID, the way the proof-of-work required is calculated will change and this is the reason why this is an hardfork.
In truth the PID Difficulty is a number of 256 bits such as 0x00000000010a2d19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999, and the PID use this number as it is, but the displayed number by getdifficulty was simplified as shown above.

so will pools have to change something after block 555555? ( will stratum difficulty change etc? )

Normally not, indeed as already stated the difficulty for miners is calculated on the nBits target. So no change has to be made.

A bit more info on the difficulty... You can see the new target by typing "getretargetpid" in the console

Code:

15:57:37

getretargetpid


15:57:37

{
"retargetheight" : 546970,
"allowmintime" : 1466256114,
"retargettime" : 1466258267,
"adjustedtime" : 1466258267,
"prevdiff" : "1c0240e1(231)",
"spacingerror" : "+52.7429(210)",
"rateofchange" : "-14.4158(190)",
"integratorheight" : 546969,
"integrationtime" : 172794,
"integratorblocks" : 974,
"proportionterm" : 89.66285966,
"integratorterm" : 167.94450154,
"derivativeterm" : -0.00000000,
"pidoutputtime" : 257.60736120,
"prevdiffx256" : "000000000240e1e32fa7578cbe9d5e32fa7578cbe9d5e32fa7578cbe9d5e32fa",
"hitlimits" : false,
"nextdiffbits" : "1c033add",
"nextdifflog2" : 38.30849247,
"nextdiffx256" : "00000000033add5f3bc530b02247f5f3bc530b02247f5f3bc530b02247f5f3bb",
"tipspacing" : 215.95000000,
"blkspacing" : 87,
"prevshad" : "4d2392a5d6d13d9b5580fabf5f3dc9ea4b246d0400c583f1b1b3e647fd696eaa"
}

The new difficulty target is given by "nextdiffbits" or "nextdiffx256". The pools software will use this number as described in https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty

The profitability of mining for the casual user when the PID will engage at block 555555, when there will be quite variation in difficulty block to block to maintain the targetspacing to 180, shall best be known on an averaged value. The difficulty value returned by "getdifficulty" is only for next block, and not an average. Two values can thus be used to assess an recent average of difficulty.

First is "prevdiff" or "prevdiffx256" which is the smoothed average of difficulty on the last 21 blocks (tipfilter). Once again the smaller the more difficult. "Prevdiff" is the blue line in the next chart, "Newdiff" is the red line in the chart and the actual difficulty, the limits down (green) and up (purple) of the PID are seen too.

The second way to know indirectly the difficulty on average was stated in a post above, and it is by typing 'getnetworkhashps #'. With # being the number of blocks, 21 (Tipfilter) or 120 (6 hours) are good numbers.

Code:

16:27:04

getnetworkhashps 120


16:27:04

2877270143


16:28:37

getnetworkhashps 21


16:28:37

2184023236

With the getnetworkhashps value and your own hashrate it is easy to know how much blocks you shall receive in an interval of time. There are 480 blocks a day in anoncoin, 2.5 ANC per block right now, knowing your hashrate and net hashrate and doing the math you can calculate profitability in ANC per day.

Code:

My hashrate = 100 MH/s = 100000000
getnetworkhashps 120 = 2877270143
Proportion of hashrate = 100000000/2877270143 = 0.035
ANC per day = 2.5 * 480 * 0.035 = 42

But to answer your question, both BFGminer and cgminer interpret nBits correctly on 0.9.6.11 with GR RetargetPID enabled, so Stratum shall works similarly.

nodes please?

-addnode=109.133.156.15:49362
-addnode=211.149.175.37:52736
-addnode=84.55.23.199:55863
-addnode=211.149.175.37:51950
-addnode=192.99.13.67:54869
-addnode=108.61.10.90:56562

There are hardcoded DNSseednodes (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/chainparams.cpp#L124) and hardcoded seednodes (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/chainparams.cpp#L29) and hardcoded I2P nodes (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/chainparams.cpp#L36). There is no need to add other nodes.

[CartmanSPC]

Crash on launch with the win64 version of anoncoin-qtc.exe. Anyone else?

Edit: Same with the win32 version.
Edit2: Had to delete everything except wallet.dat and rebuild blockchain from scratch.

[Cryptoslave]

Crash on launch with the win64 version of anoncoin-qtc.exe. Anyone else?

Edit: Same with the win32 version.
Edit2: Had to delete everything except wallet.dat and rebuild blockchain from scratch.

Yes, you have to empty the data directory but not and rebuild from scratch, with or without bootstrap.dat

Also the old anoncoin.conf is not compatible with the new one, use the anoncoin.conf.sample or anoncoin.conf.txt provided in anoncoin/doc directory.

see https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_your_Anoncoin_wallet#Setting_up_your_client_to_use_I2P_.289.6.11.29
and https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_install_Anoncoin

Thank you, I updated The Guide to install Anoncoin

CS

[6436346346]

so cryptopia is still on chain v0.8.5.1-132-g73a4219-beta, did you contact them?

Hi,

we have been unable to compile the new wallet, have spent a week trying, followed all the guides, tried every conceivable Linux version/combination, still never compiles and just returns an error

Code:

  ............
  CXX    libanoncoin_server_a-main.o
main.cpp: In function 'bool LoadBlockIndexDB()':
main.cpp:3109:32: error: 'BlockHashCorrectionMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp:3177:19: error: 'BlockMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp: In function 'bool ProcessMessage(CNode*, std::string, CDataStream&)':
main.cpp:4135:18: warning: unused variable 'fFromChanged' [-Wunused-variable]
main.cpp:4659:24: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Wsign-compare]
make[2]: *** [libanoncoin_server_a-main.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Any ideas?

[Cryptoslave]

so cryptopia is still on chain v0.8.5.1-132-g73a4219-beta, did you contact them?

Hi,

we have been unable to compile the new wallet, have spent a week trying, followed all the guides, tried every conceivable Linux version/combination, still never compiles and just returns an error

Code:

  ............
  CXX    libanoncoin_server_a-main.o
main.cpp: In function 'bool LoadBlockIndexDB()':
main.cpp:3109:32: error: 'BlockHashCorrectionMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp:3177:19: error: 'BlockMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp: In function 'bool ProcessMessage(CNode*, std::string, CDataStream&)':
main.cpp:4135:18: warning: unused variable 'fFromChanged' [-Wunused-variable]
main.cpp:4659:24: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Wsign-compare]
make[2]: *** [libanoncoin_server_a-main.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Any ideas?

Hi,

I have never seen this error before. Also there is nothing about the errors at 3109 and 3177 that I can find on the net about bitcoin.

Thus I tried to compile it again in a Mint 17.1 VM, after erasing all data and following https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source#Ubuntu_64_bit_or_Debian_8

Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install g++ git automake
sudo apt-get install autoconf make libtool pkg-config libqt4-network libqtgui4

No problem with those. I did not execute this line: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev  git libdb++-dev libssl-dev

Code:

cd
git clone https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.git
cd anoncoin
./autogen.sh
cd depends
make -j`nproc`

I had an issue here with retrieving the libboost library from anoncoin.net... 404 not found ... had to retry 3 times then it downloaded it correctly.

Code:

dir
cd ..
./configure --prefix=`pwd`/depends/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
make -j`nproc`

No issues, anoncoind, anoncoin-qtc and all others were built correctly.

It seems your issue is occuring at the very early stage of the last make -j`nproc`.

Did you have any problem with the former make? During the build of the toolchain? Maybe the toolchain conflict with your dependencies?


BTW as a reminder, block 555555 is in 9 days so the hardfork will occur very soon, everybody shall update ASAP!

[6436346346]

so cryptopia is still on chain v0.8.5.1-132-g73a4219-beta, did you contact them?

Hi,

we have been unable to compile the new wallet, have spent a week trying, followed all the guides, tried every conceivable Linux version/combination, still never compiles and just returns an error

Code:

  ............
  CXX    libanoncoin_server_a-main.o
main.cpp: In function 'bool LoadBlockIndexDB()':
main.cpp:3109:32: error: 'BlockHashCorrectionMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp:3177:19: error: 'BlockMap' has no member named 'reserve'
main.cpp: In function 'bool ProcessMessage(CNode*, std::string, CDataStream&)':
main.cpp:4135:18: warning: unused variable 'fFromChanged' [-Wunused-variable]
main.cpp:4659:24: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Wsign-compare]
make[2]: *** [libanoncoin_server_a-main.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/anoncoin/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Any ideas?

Hi,

I have never seen this error before. Also there is nothing about the errors at 3109 and 3177 that I can find on the net about bitcoin.

Thus I tried to compile it again in a Mint 17.1 VM, after erasing all data and following https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source#Ubuntu_64_bit_or_Debian_8

Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install g++ git automake
sudo apt-get install autoconf make libtool pkg-config libqt4-network libqtgui4

No problem with those. I did not execute this line: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev  git libdb++-dev libssl-dev

Code:

cd
git clone https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.git
cd anoncoin
./autogen.sh
cd depends
make -j`nproc`

I had an issue here with retrieving the libboost library from anoncoin.net... 404 not found ... had to retry 3 times then it downloaded it correctly.

Code:

dir
cd ..
./configure --prefix=`pwd`/depends/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
make -j`nproc`

No issues, anoncoind, anoncoin-qtc and all others were built correctly.

It seems your issue is occuring at the very early stage of the last make -j`nproc`.

Did you have any problem with the former make? During the build of the toolchain? Maybe the toolchain conflict with your dependencies?


BTW as a reminder, block 555555 is in 9 days so the hardfork will occur very soon, everybody shall update ASAP!

Ok, so the problem will be the anoncoin.net link, why is it contacting anoncoin.net for libboost?

Our wallet servers are locked down and cannot contact external sites, is this a custom build of libboost?

if this is a custom build can you please direct me to the source code so we can review it? I am not keen to download unreview code onto our wallet server.


Thanks

[6436346346]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

[entertheabyss]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

Has btc38 announced they are going to upgrade their wallet?

As always ExchangeD.I2P is running the latest anoncoin version and trading flawlessly

You can trade anonymously over i2p or
access exchanged.i2p over the normal internet

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092682.0

Trade like a pro

[jwinterm]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

[entertheabyss]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

If an exchange is having issues its best getting out early an often as opposed to getting your coins frozen. It would be better for anoncoin if cryptopia figured it out, but if they dont
its important to move your coins to either your own local wallet or to another exchange (such as exchanged.i2p).

Dont get Vern'd

[jwinterm]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

If an exchange is having issues its best getting out early an often as opposed to getting your coins frozen. It would be better for anoncoin if cryptopia figured it out, but if they dont
its important to move your coins to either your own local wallet or to another exchange (such as exchanged.i2p).

Dont get Vern'd

I appreciate the advice, but I'd rather not be forced to liquidate my coins at a lower price, or open an account elsewhere to move them off. I tried visiting your clearnet site but was getting repeated certificate warnings (ignore first https invalid cert warning and another would pop right up) using chrome on my phone. Guess I should look at btc-38 or btc-e, I think one of them trades ANC.

I really don't see how a hardfork can affect old coins that Cryptopia already has in its wallet. I have been getting a bit suspicious of them since they added that EDRcoin that supposedly does hundreds of BTC volume per day with extremely thin order books and trades nowhere else. Hope I'm not gonna get verngoxed for my 0.15 BTC I have there, but kinda too lazy to do anything about it honestly, plus there's a few coins I like to support that I don't think trade anywhere else.

[Cryptoslave]

(...)
Ok, so the problem will be the anoncoin.net link, why is it contacting anoncoin.net for libboost?

Our wallet servers are locked down and cannot contact external sites, is this a custom build of libboost?

if this is a custom build can you please direct me to the source code so we can review it? I am not keen to download unreview code onto our wallet server.


Thanks

Sorry I had mistaken... I did build the dependencies using the toolchain (first make) and here is the libraries it download:

Code:

2016-06-27 22:25:18 URL:http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/boost/boost/1.57.0/boost_1_57_0.tar.bz2 [60821561/60821561] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/boost-1_57_0/boost_1_57_0.tar.bz2.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:26:36 URL:https://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-1.0.1j.tar.gz [4432964/4432964] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/openssl-1.0.1j/openssl-1.0.1j.tar.gz.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:27:30 URL:https://fukuchi.org/works/qrencode//qrencode-3.4.3.tar.bz2 [370709/370709] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/qrencode-3.4.3/qrencode-3.4.3.tar.bz2.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:28:15 URL:http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/freetype/freetype2/2.5.3/freetype-2.5.3.tar.bz2 [1703842/1703842] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/freetype-2.5.3/freetype-2.5.3.tar.bz2.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:28:34 URL:http://tenet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/expat/expat/2.1.0/expat-2.1.0.tar.gz [562616/562616] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/expat-2.1.0/expat-2.1.0.tar.gz.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:28:42 URL:https://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus/dbus-1.8.6.tar.gz [1861784/1861784] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/dbus-1.8.6/dbus-1.8.6.tar.gz.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:29:01 URL:https://www.x.org/releases/individual/proto/xproto-7.0.26.tar.bz2 [305321/305321] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/xproto-7.0.26/xproto-7.0.26.tar.bz2.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:31:02 URL:http://ftp.fau.de/qtproject/archive/qt/4.6/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.4.tar.gz [160837056/160837056] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/qt46-4.6.4/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.4.tar.gz.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:35:02 URL:http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz [22842330/22842330] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/bdb-4.8.30/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz.temp" [1]
2016-06-27 22:35:23 URL:http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/miniupnpc-1.9.20140701.tar.gz [76735/76735] -> "/home/yo/anoncoin/depends/work/download/miniupnpc-1.9.20140701/miniupnpc-1.9.20140701.tar.gz.temp"

So those are open source public libraries, none are hosted on anoncoin.net (I misread the log).

But yes you have to allow outgoing connections to build the toolchain otherwise it will never work.

Good luck!

CS

[entertheabyss]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

If an exchange is having issues its best getting out early an often as opposed to getting your coins frozen. It would be better for anoncoin if cryptopia figured it out, but if they dont
its important to move your coins to either your own local wallet or to another exchange (such as exchanged.i2p).

Dont get Vern'd

I appreciate the advice, but I'd rather not be forced to liquidate my coins at a lower price, or open an account elsewhere to move them off. I tried visiting your clearnet site but was getting repeated certificate warnings (ignore first https invalid cert warning and another would pop right up) using chrome on my phone. Guess I should look at btc-38 or btc-e, I think one of them trades ANC.

I really don't see how a hardfork can affect old coins that Cryptopia already has in its wallet. I have been getting a bit suspicious of them since they added that EDRcoin that supposedly does hundreds of BTC volume per day with extremely thin order books and trades nowhere else. Hope I'm not gonna get verngoxed for my 0.15 BTC I have there, but kinda too lazy to do anything about it honestly, plus there's a few coins I like to support that I don't think trade anywhere else.

i2p.rocks is a i2p inproxy run by a well respected i2p dev
the certs are not invalid, they are self-signed, because wildcard * certs are expensive
the site works 100% fine you just have to ignore the PITA cert warnings

the hardfork wont "affect" the coins other then making withdrawals impossible until the client is updated

[Cryptoslave]

Has btc38 announced they are going to upgrade their wallet?

https://twitter.com/Cryptoslave/status/739502842566848514
http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/anc/10361.html

[6436346346]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

We can setup an offsite precompiled wallet so you can withdraw even after the fork if you just log a support ticket with your ANC address, no coins will be lost or stolen

[entertheabyss]

URGENT!!

Can everyone please withdraw ANC from Cryptopia before the hardfork, we are running out of time to get the new wallet compiled and don't want coins getting trapped.


Thanks

What? No. I have a few hundred ANC on Cryptopia, and I'm traveling so not in a position to compile a wallet and move them off for at least a week. Get your shit together Cryptopia.

We can setup an offsite precompiled wallet so you can withdraw even after the fork if you just log a support ticket with your ANC address, no coins will be lost or stolen

cryptopia is a great site and it would be a shame if you delisted anoncoin because of this confusion

toolchains is just downloading dependancies like boost and bdb its not getting any extra libs then what other coins such as bitocoin use you can verify the urls yourself

[jwinterm]

Man, great job wrecking the price Cryptopia

I agree they're a decent exchange in general. I like the stand they took on ETH, but I am still shaded the fuck out by EDRcoin. Hopefully they get this sorted shortly and I can grab a few more before price recovers.

[6436346346]

Man, great job wrecking the price Cryptopia

I agree they're a decent exchange in general. I like the stand they took on ETH, but I am still shaded the fuck out by EDRcoin. Hopefully they get this sorted shortly and I can grab a few more before price recovers.

Look, if the EDRC guys want to give us fees for trading among themselves then I dont care, they are doing it on multiple exchanges, and personally I don't really care, and normal trader can see its not real volume.

If we started blocking coin devs from pumping there own coins we would have no users.


As for us being "Crypsty" for having compile issues with ANC due to it contacting untrusted sites during compile time which is impossible with our wallet server security, then so be it, plenty of other sites to trade ANC without us "verning" you guys.



Spend all week trying to do something for the ANC community, then just get shit on for it, just another day in crypto.

[jwinterm]

Man, great job wrecking the price Cryptopia

I agree they're a decent exchange in general. I like the stand they took on ETH, but I am still shaded the fuck out by EDRcoin. Hopefully they get this sorted shortly and I can grab a few more before price recovers.

Look, if the EDRC guys want to give us fees for trading among themselves then I dont care, they are doing it on multiple exchanges, and personally I don't really care, and normal trader can see its not real volume.

If we started blocking coin devs from pumping there own coins we would have no users.


As for us being "Crypsty" for having compile issues with ANC due to it contacting untrusted sites during compile time which is impossible with our wallet server security, then so be it, plenty of other sites to trade ANC without us "verning" you guys.



Spend all week trying to do something for the ANC community, then just get shit on for it, just another day in crypto.

Poor guys, (supposedly) soaking up hundreds of dollars in fees from EDRcoin scammers everyday, and still having to put up with shit from uppity shitcoin holders

I wouldn't say that I'm ANC community, I just have a few hundred coins on your exchange. I'm glad you guys got cryptonote integration working, and like I said, I'm glad you dumped ETH, but cmon, if you can't compile a wallet for a week and you can't deal with a little (mostly) good natured ribbing on shitcointalk, maybe you're in the wrong business...

[tomothy]

Re: Cryptopia & Wallet compile

Is the above-mentioned discussion and wallet issues singular to Cryptopia? If there is a concern about downloading unknown/unverified libraries from an unknown location, wouldn't other places/exchanges/users share a similar concern? Would this simply be a hosting issue and we need to upload the requisite libraries someplace else? Just wondering as there are already few exchanges offering and maintaining the coin as it is. Sorry if what I just typed didn't make sense, I don't understand all this code stuff so... lol.

[HPt]

Man, great job wrecking the price Cryptopia

I agree they're a decent exchange in general. I like the stand they took on ETH, but I am still shaded the fuck out by EDRcoin. Hopefully they get this sorted shortly and I can grab a few more before price recovers.

Look, if the EDRC guys want to give us fees for trading among themselves then I dont care, they are doing it on multiple exchanges, and personally I don't really care, and normal trader can see its not real volume.

If we started blocking coin devs from pumping there own coins we would have no users.


As for us being "Crypsty" for having compile issues with ANC due to it contacting untrusted sites during compile time which is impossible with our wallet server security, then so be it, plenty of other sites to trade ANC without us "verning" you guys.



Spend all week trying to do something for the ANC community, then just get shit on for it, just another day in crypto.

Poor guys, (supposedly) soaking up hundreds of dollars in fees from EDRcoin scammers everyday, and still having to put up with shit from uppity shitcoin holders

I wouldn't say that I'm ANC community, I just have a few hundred coins on your exchange. I'm glad you guys got cryptonote integration working, and like I said, I'm glad you dumped ETH, but cmon, if you can't compile a wallet for a week and you can't deal with a little (mostly) good natured ribbing on shitcointalk, maybe you're in the wrong business...

I think the fact that Cryptopia doesn't simply compile untrusted code rather makes them different from Cryptsy. Wasn't it malicious code injected by some coin (lucky7coin or so) that brought Cryptsy down in the first place..?

[jwinterm]

...

I think the fact that Cryptopia doesn't simply compile untrusted code rather makes them different from Cryptsy. Wasn't it malicious code injected by some coin (lucky7coin or so) that brought Cryptsy down in the first place..?

Supposedly, but I think it's widely believed that Vern just took the money and ran (to China), and the lucky7 exploit thing was just an excuse/ruse.

Re: Cryptopia, they didn't open an issue on GitHub, and I'm assuming they didn't ask for help on irc. If you come to the land of trolls asking for help at the last minute, don't be surprised if you get trolled.

[Cryptoslave]

...

I think the fact that Cryptopia doesn't simply compile untrusted code rather makes them different from Cryptsy. Wasn't it malicious code injected by some coin (lucky7coin or so) that brought Cryptsy down in the first place..?

Supposedly, but I think it's widely believed that Vern just took the money and ran (to China), and the lucky7 exploit thing was just an excuse/ruse.

Re: Cryptopia, they didn't open an issue on GitHub, and I'm assuming they didn't ask for help on irc. If you come to the land of trolls asking for help at the last minute, don't be surprised if you get trolled.

The libraries downloaded by the toolchain are public and open source.

Those very same libraries (boost, openssl, qrencode, qt, berkeley-db, miniupnc,...) are used by many altcoin and Bitcoin. For more info Building headless Bitcoin and Bitcoin-qt on Windows. Compare the libraries on official Bitcoin github https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md

BTW the OSX DMG Build was added today https://anoncoin.net/downloads/0.9.6.11/Anoncoin-0.9.6.11.dmg Checksum: MD5 40FFC15255518EC30D6678EA3469C313 SHA-1 0C4E8F229EE09F8F1CDD8F500496F510A21A8A0A

[Cryptoslave]

...

I think the fact that Cryptopia doesn't simply compile untrusted code rather makes them different from Cryptsy. Wasn't it malicious code injected by some coin (lucky7coin or so) that brought Cryptsy down in the first place..?

Supposedly, but I think it's widely believed that Vern just took the money and ran (to China), and the lucky7 exploit thing was just an excuse/ruse.

Re: Cryptopia, they didn't open an issue on GitHub, and I'm assuming they didn't ask for help on irc. If you come to the land of trolls asking for help at the last minute, don't be surprised if you get trolled.

The libraries downloaded by the toolchain are public and open source.

Those very same libraries (boost, openssl, qrencode, qt, berkeley-db, miniupnc,...) are used by many altcoin and Bitcoin. For more info Building headless Bitcoin and Bitcoin-qt on Windows. Compare the libraries with for instance https://gist.github.com/kostaz/19729e6d53adc5d1606c

BTW the OSX DMG Build was added today https://anoncoin.net/downloads/0.9.6.11/Anoncoin-0.9.6.11.dmg Checksum: MD5 40FFC15255518EC30D6678EA3469C313 SHA-1 0C4E8F229EE09F8F1CDD8F500496F510A21A8A0A

I have updated a procedure for building anoncoind, anoncoin-cli and anoncoin-qtc without the toolchain on Ubuntu and Debian, for people who need it. Also good to check the Bitcoin guide https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md

Code:

If you want to build anoncoind and anoncoin-cli without using the toolchain.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install g++ git automake
sudo apt-get install autoconf make libtool pkg-config libqt4-network libqtgui4

After the dependencies got installed, download anoncoin and configure the building process.

cd
git clone https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.git
cd anoncoin
./autogen.sh
./configure

If you encounter any error.

sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev git libdb++-dev libssl-dev

If you encounter configure: error: libdb_cxx headers missing.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8++-dev

Now launch the configure again.

./configure

If you want to compile the GUI (anoncoin-qtc). After "make", anoncoin-qtc will be found in src/qt/.

sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler
./configure --with-gui=qt4

Now after a succesful configure ending, launch the build.

make -j`nproc`

You now have built src/anoncoind, src/anoncoin-cli and maybe src/qt/anoncoin-qtc.

The executables are quite big because they are built with GCC and you can strip the debug symbols, which reduces the executable size by about 90%.

strip src/anoncoind
strip src/anoncoin-cli
strip src/qt/anoncoin-qtc

Setup of first run in command line.

Code:

Anoncoind and anoncoin-cli will have been created in anoncoin/src folder. To run it the first time, with no previous datadir (if it exists from a previous version please remove everything in ~/.anoncoin but not wallet.dat).

mkdir ~/.anoncoin
cp doc/anoncoin.conf.sample ~/.anoncoin/anoncoin.conf
nano ~/.anoncoin/anoncoin.conf

In anoncoin.conf, change rpcuser, rpcpassword

For clearnet-only comment onlynet=i2p and in i2p.options set enabled=0

For I2P-only uncomment onlynet=i2p and in i2p.options set enabled=1

For I2P and clearnet (mixed mode) comment onlynet=i2p and in i2p.options set enabled=1

For I2P router configuration and settings check https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_your_Anoncoin_wallet#Using_the_command_line_to_generate_a_random_anoncoin_address_and_run_anoncoind_with_I2P

Execute anoncoind and anoncoin-cli

src/anoncoind
src/anoncoin-cli getinfo
src/anoncoin-cli getchaintips

[tomothy]

Thanks for the hard work cryptoslave. The name seems especially fitting with all the work you've been putting out. Thanks.

[Cryptoslave]

Thanks for the hard work cryptoslave. The name seems especially fitting with all the work you've been putting out. Thanks.

Thank you tomothy, yep hence the name

So I have received confirmation from BTC38, cryptopia and exchanged.i2p: they are all on the good version (0.9.6.11)

[Cryptoslave]

Only vircurex to go... They're slow, let's see if they update or drop ANC

I contacted them for the second time.... we will see if they answer.

Hardfork is in 4 days! Please update your wallets everybody! All people on 0.8.5.6 will be disconnected soon from the correct blockchain (0.9.6.11)!

Thanks

[BitcoinNational]

...

I think the fact that Cryptopia doesn't simply compile untrusted code rather makes them different from Cryptsy. Wasn't it malicious code injected by some coin (lucky7coin or so) that brought Cryptsy down in the first place..?

Supposedly, but I think it's widely believed that Vern just took the money and ran (to China), and the lucky7 exploit thing was just an excuse/ruse.

Re: Cryptopia, they didn't open an issue on GitHub, and I'm assuming they didn't ask for help on irc. If you come to the land of trolls asking for help at the last minute, don't be surprised if you get trolled.

bump

Sallah says he's now come to the same conclusion Silver has reached about Big Vern's story.

"You do the math," Sallah says. "If you think someone hacked in, why would he have written that kind of confessional letter, posted it, and moved to China?... If it's not corporate looting, it's at least extreme corporate malfeasance."

[himikk]

ANC added to hash-to-coins.com

[Cryptoslave]

ANC added to hash-to-coins.com

Pool added!

All miners shall take note that prohashing.com and multipool.us are on the incorrect chain so please use another pool!

CS

[K1773R]

vircurex.com also trades ANC and you have to inform them about the wallet upgrade. I have been trading lots of ANC over there and so far I have not had any problems with deposits or withdrawals

Only vircurex to go... They're slow, let's see if they update or drop ANC

vircurex is run by the known scammer kumala, AVOID or lose your coins.

[HPt]

Did the blockchain fork after the hard fork?
My transfer of 9.9 ANC from AMXraoVxaBvkiwWHbYRkQW7nmo6vHNHBrQ to ASoVC4BfzXKvuCp96ckq41QsxnWLh3gxnx has a lot of confirmations, but it doesn't show up in the explorer http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

[Cryptoslave]

Did the blockchain fork after the hard fork?
My transfer of 9.9 ANC from AMXraoVxaBvkiwWHbYRkQW7nmo6vHNHBrQ to ASoVC4BfzXKvuCp96ckq41QsxnWLh3gxnx has a lot of confirmations, but it doesn't show up in the explorer http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

Hi,

Yes, the hardfork worked correctly.  

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin is still on the old chain but is being updated at the moment.

Your transaction was done on the correct chain.

Sadly, I am not very happy with the tuning of the retarget algo with 90% of our hashrate being multipools it retarget too strongly both upward and downward and consequently the remaining faithful miners (around 400 MH/s) have to mine very difficult blocks (even up to 100 times more difficult than some of the quick blocks mined by multipools). The chain is thus for the moment about 30% too slow with very broad block time.

So I will check how to tune the moving averages differently to not have so much variation with this particular 90%+ intermittent multipool hashrate as well as the proportional term of the PID to have a smoother ride with retargetting less aggressively in those worse mining conditions. In a couple of weeks a new hardfork (0.9.6.12, same codebase) will be proposed with the new settings for the PID after we testnet it and will be announced here as well as with the alert key.

CS

[cryptoadoption15]

Did the blockchain fork after the hard fork?
My transfer of 9.9 ANC from AMXraoVxaBvkiwWHbYRkQW7nmo6vHNHBrQ to ASoVC4BfzXKvuCp96ckq41QsxnWLh3gxnx has a lot of confirmations, but it doesn't show up in the explorer http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

Hi,

Yes, the hardfork worked correctly.  

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin is still on the old chain but is being updated at the moment.

Your transaction was done on the correct chain.

Sadly, I am not very happy with the tuning of the retarget algo with 90% of our hashrate being multipools it retarget too strongly both upward and downward and consequently the remaining faithful miners (around 400 MH/s) have to mine very difficult blocks (even up to 100 times more difficult than some of the quick blocks mined by multipools). The chain is thus for the moment about 30% too slow with very broad block time.

So I will check how to tune the moving averages differently to not have so much variation with this particular 90%+ intermittent multipool hashrate as well as the proportional term of the PID to have a smoother ride with retargetting less aggressively in those worse mining conditions. In a couple of weeks a new hardfork (0.9.6.12, same codebase) will be proposed with the new settings for the PID after we testnet it and will be announced here as well as with the alert key.

CS

How is the difficulty re-targeting looking now after you have had a few more weeks to evaluate it post fork?

[Cryptoslave]

Did the blockchain fork after the hard fork?
My transfer of 9.9 ANC from AMXraoVxaBvkiwWHbYRkQW7nmo6vHNHBrQ to ASoVC4BfzXKvuCp96ckq41QsxnWLh3gxnx has a lot of confirmations, but it doesn't show up in the explorer http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

Hi,

Yes, the hardfork worked correctly.  

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin is still on the old chain but is being updated at the moment.

Your transaction was done on the correct chain.

Sadly, I am not very happy with the tuning of the retarget algo with 90% of our hashrate being multipools it retarget too strongly both upward and downward and consequently the remaining faithful miners (around 400 MH/s) have to mine very difficult blocks (even up to 100 times more difficult than some of the quick blocks mined by multipools). The chain is thus for the moment about 30% too slow with very broad block time.

So I will check how to tune the moving averages differently to not have so much variation with this particular 90%+ intermittent multipool hashrate as well as the proportional term of the PID to have a smoother ride with retargetting less aggressively in those worse mining conditions. In a couple of weeks a new hardfork (0.9.6.12, same codebase) will be proposed with the new settings for the PID after we testnet it and will be announced here as well as with the alert key.

CS

How is the difficulty re-targeting looking now after you have had a few more weeks to evaluate it post fork?

Hi,

I did a post with the current data from mainet on the wiki: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1

I hope it answer your questions!

As stated above I am still tuning the PID to limit the dispersion in block time.

Thank you for your question!

CS

[cryptoadoption15]

Did the blockchain fork after the hard fork?
My transfer of 9.9 ANC from AMXraoVxaBvkiwWHbYRkQW7nmo6vHNHBrQ to ASoVC4BfzXKvuCp96ckq41QsxnWLh3gxnx has a lot of confirmations, but it doesn't show up in the explorer http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

Hi,

Yes, the hardfork worked correctly.  

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin is still on the old chain but is being updated at the moment.

Your transaction was done on the correct chain.

Sadly, I am not very happy with the tuning of the retarget algo with 90% of our hashrate being multipools it retarget too strongly both upward and downward and consequently the remaining faithful miners (around 400 MH/s) have to mine very difficult blocks (even up to 100 times more difficult than some of the quick blocks mined by multipools). The chain is thus for the moment about 30% too slow with very broad block time.

So I will check how to tune the moving averages differently to not have so much variation with this particular 90%+ intermittent multipool hashrate as well as the proportional term of the PID to have a smoother ride with retargetting less aggressively in those worse mining conditions. In a couple of weeks a new hardfork (0.9.6.12, same codebase) will be proposed with the new settings for the PID after we testnet it and will be announced here as well as with the alert key.

CS

How is the difficulty re-targeting looking now after you have had a few more weeks to evaluate it post fork?

Hi,

I did a post with the current data from mainet on the wiki: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1

I hope it answer your questions!

As stated above I am still tuning the PID to limit the dispersion in block time.

Thank you for your question!

CS

I cannot read your answer because https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 has a security certificate error. I know the problem is not unique to me because I attempted to access it fro multiple devices, browsers and IP addresses.

Can you cut and past your response here until you are able to fix the ecurity certificate error?

Based on this issue and the toolchain problem described by Cryptopia perhaps these easy certificate/build errors should be fixed before more time is spent on PID.

It is hard to convince people to use privacy/security software when these basic issues are present

[Cryptoslave]

I cannot read your answer because https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 has a security certificate error. I know the problem is not unique to me because I attempted to access it fro multiple devices, browsers and IP addresses.

Can you cut and past your response here until you are able to fix the ecurity certificate error?

Based on this issue and the toolchain problem described by Cryptopia perhaps these easy certificate/build errors should be fixed before more time is spent on PID.

It is hard to convince people to use privacy/security software when these basic issues are present

The build without toolchain was proposed here above, it is not and never was an issue at all. Just two ways of building with dependencies.

The SSL certificate is self-signed by Meeh as the wiki site is hosted on its norway server. The only thing I can do for that is to ask him to renew his signature, which I did right now; but I have no more power than this on this SSL certificate.

I can copy paste here but it will be huge post, which is why I used the wiki for that.

CS

[cryptoadoption15]

I cannot read your answer because https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 has a security certificate error. I know the problem is not unique to me because I attempted to access it fro multiple devices, browsers and IP addresses.

Can you cut and past your response here until you are able to fix the ecurity certificate error?

Based on this issue and the toolchain problem described by Cryptopia perhaps these easy certificate/build errors should be fixed before more time is spent on PID.

It is hard to convince people to use privacy/security software when these basic issues are present

The build without toolchain was proposed here above, it is not and never was an issue at all. Just two ways of building with dependencies.

The SSL certificate is self-signed by Meeh as the wiki site is hosted on its norway server. The only thing I can do for that is to ask him to renew his signature, which I did right now; but I have no more power than this on this SSL certificate.

I can copy paste here but it will be huge post, which is why I used the wiki for that.

CS

AFAIK Meeh has not been active with ANC for a long time. I assume that his failure to even update the OP of the announcement thread regularly was part of the reason you created this new thread.

Based on his long absence why are you still posting content on a site hosted on a server he controls? It seems to me that copying the important content and transferring it to a new site under your control would be a better option. For a long time you have been far more reliable than Meeh in providing updates to the community and answering questions.

You have done a lot for ANC. I think some of the old community might return if things continue to move in the right direction.

[tomothy]

Enclosed post below. Feel free to delete and make a prettier post if wanted.


GroundRod PID main ver1
Here we show the result of 5000+ blocks mining after the hardfork on block 555555 using the GroundRod PID Retarget Difficulty Algo featured in the new 0.9.6.11 version of Anoncoin.

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/pow.cpp

The PID settings used in mainet are the one from the 9.6.11 version after hardfork-block 555555.


define PID_PROPORTIONALGAIN "1.7"
define PID_INTEGRATORTIME "172800"
define PID_INTEGRATORGAIN "5"
define PID_DERIVATIVEGAIN "0"
define TIPFILTERBLOCKS_DEFAULT "21"
define USESHEADER_DEFAULT false
define NMAXDIFFINCREASE "200"
define NMAXDIFFDECREASE "170"
define DMININTEGRATOR 170
define DMAXINTEGRATOR 190
define WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_UP 4
define WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_DOWN 6
const int64_t nTargetSpacing = 180;

Here are the results so far...

It seems mining on mainet is characterized by about 10% constant hashrate and 90% multipool hashrate jumping on and off the chain. Mining quick blocks at low diff and increasing the diff until it is high enough for them to leave. The slowest block is then on hold for indefinite amount of time till the 10% constant hashrate find it, then the decrease of difficulty due to not having found a block for hours is accompanied by multipools jumping on the lower difficulty block, finding quickly many blocks while the difficulty drop and then increase to a high difficulty, which make multipools leave, repeating the cycle.

So in those very difficult mining conditions this is what we have so far at block 560555 using PID with the above settings.


Blocktime
Blocktime is too slow with around 214.6 sec instead of 180 sec, we can see when no block was found for a long time with almost vertical section and many quick blocks with almost horizontal section. The oblique parts with flatter slope are mostly due to the integral term requesting quick blocks for long times, to try to reduce the increased time toward the target of 180 sec.



Average Blocktime
This is a simple mean above all blocks since block 555149. Here we also see the avg blocktime tending to 210 sec.



Integral term
The integral term over 2 days (172800 sec) is almost always at the maximum which is equal to (190 - 180 = 10) * 5 + 180 = 230.



PIDOut
The PID output sum is characterized by periods of stability like from 1400-2000 or 3800-4400 interspersed with chaotic periods were the PIDOut achieve very high values. It is evident the higher percentage of constant mining in the stable period is enough to not have very long space without any found blocks like when the multipools alone are mining, leading to very high PIDOut due to no blocks for hours. We conclude there is some amount of constant mining relative to multipool mining which is needed to achieve stability. If nobody is mining or at a very low hashrate the high difficulty blocks then nothing can really help unless an automatically decreasing difficulty which is in fact possible with the PID (parameter useheader=1) but disabled on mainet due to lack of time consensus between peers and subsequent possible attack vector.



TipsAvg
TipsAvg is looking quite OK but it hides information about very slow blocks followed by very quick blocks.


Space
Block spacing shows the very long blocks that anoncoin is subject to. This is no new to PID, very long blocks were also found with KGW due to the same multipools inconstant hashrate. The difference between KGW and PID is PID gives much less quick block than KGW which gave around 140 at a time.



Space zoom


A zoom on the space chart shows the very quick blocks following the very long blocks. This is of course due to conjugated effect of decrease of difficulty by the PID to remove the impact of the long block and increased hashrate due to multipools jumping onto the chain to get the easy difficulty blocks.

Log of difficulty
A logarithm of difficulty shows the extent of variation of difficulty between the slow difficult block and the quick easy blocks. We can see there is two order of magnitudes between those two extremes which is a lot. This is partly due to a too strong retargetting of the difficulty with these particular proportional gain, maximum diff increase and decrease and the too short periods of 4 and 6 blocks for both moving averages.




Difficulty chart
The difficulty chart shows 400 blocks using the old Kimoto Gravity Well retarget algo followed by about 5000 blocks using the new GroundRod PID.

It is very well seen on this chart that sometimes there is only multipools mining with no constant hashrate (p.ex. 749-1378) and other times there is a constant hashrate stabilizing the fluctuation (p.ex. 1378-2092). The same conclusion can be done which is Anoncoin need some fraction of constant mining to have a well behaving chain, but miners have more incentive to mine on multipools so it is not easy to get this constant hashrate.




Conclusion

The GroundRod Retarget PID was tuned for quick retargetting in case of high fluctuation of difficulty, but with the necessity to have at least ca one hundred blocks at each hashrate levels. Here the pattern of mining is more like mine 25 easy, let others mine one hard, mine 25 easy, let others mine one hard. Consequently I am in the process of tuning the parameters of the PID to have less aggressive variation of difficulty for then the ratio between easy and hard difficulty block will be less than one hundred as it is actually, limiting the impact of higher and lower difficulty and hopefully smoothing the block distribution. The community will be updated when I will be satisfied with the new parameters. CS

[newb4now]

Conclusion

The GroundRod Retarget PID was tuned for quick retargetting in case of high fluctuation of difficulty, but with the necessity to have at least ca one hundred blocks at each hashrate levels. Here the pattern of mining is more like mine 25 easy, let others mine one hard, mine 25 easy, let others mine one hard. Consequently I am in the process of tuning the parameters of the PID to have less aggressive variation of difficulty for then the ratio between easy and hard difficulty block will be less than one hundred as it is actually, limiting the impact of higher and lower difficulty and hopefully smoothing the block distribution. The community will be updated when I will be satisfied with the new parameters. CS

Thank you for the detailed summary and analysis!

[tomothy]

That's all CS, I just copy pasted. lol. CS continues to produce!

[tranzactionezlive]

Can you please post some nodes ?

[M8BWNNRFMNdak68c]

addnodes:
213.152.161.117:55167
103.253.43.162:50438
211.149.148.149:58147
73.69.100.22:9377
88.206.141.110:55831


so why is cryptopia again "Investigating wallet issues" since a week now? ( wallet offline )

[K1773R]

Can you please post some nodes ?

Use a recent release which automatically finds peers, dont use hardcoded peers!
Also, turn on I2P.

[M8BWNNRFMNdak68c]

so cryptopia is back online.. they processed deposits and withdrawals show up as transactions..

but what about the ANC blockchain itself? it is completely fucked up!
the last block was found 8 days(!) ago..

i have 24 peers, the new version 90611 and are on block 565028. cryptopia is also on block 565028.
all other block explorers are down.
so is truely nobody mining ( because of low profitability ) ?

Code:

time		blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)	AVG(difficulty)	MAX(height)
2016-08-20	36	9	84,3581237793	0,0000212517	565.028
2016-08-18	38	10	142,3270463943	0,0000228184	564.992
2016-08-17	61	4	77,0836935043	0,000024477	564.954
2016-08-16	1	11	27.368,44140625	0,00000107	564.893
2016-08-15	32	4	61,478717804		0,0000165034	564.892
2016-08-14	346	43	762,0881061554	0,0000071297	564.860
2016-08-13	140	16	3.302,6591997147	0,0000095491	564.514
2016-08-12	1	7	112,8434906006	0,00000028	564.374
2016-08-11	21	1	28.502,58984375	0,0000020805	564.373
2016-08-10	218	27	71.414,309014082	0,0000117845	564.352
2016-08-09	1	21	6.126,3051757812	0,00000059	564.134
2016-08-07	34	9	1.208,0912075043	0,0000149368	564.133
2016-08-06	16	0	0			0,0000043375	564.099
2016-08-05	84	11	622,5356903076	0,0000225308	564.083

it does even not make sense to mine now.. because of the "retarget every block", it would be the following:
block 565029 = diff 521 ( 50 % of LTC profit, so you have to pay 200% hashing price )
block 565030 = diff very low (  hashing price low but above zero )
block 565031 = diff high again, as everybody mines the low block rapidly.

so i could either mine LTC, or i could mine 1 block ANC for double price plus 1 block ANC for free. so the average value is the same. so my conclusion would be not to mine ANC.....

so i really don't see the advantage of the hardfork??


CS: you probably put a lot of work into this document ( https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 ).. but without a proper introduction, a defintion of the different terms and a deeper discussion of the results, its just your own brainfuck, which nobody else can understand ( nor help you with )

interpretation 1: miner perscpective
you fucked it up. ( as the chain is dead now ) - sorry

interpretation 2: user perspective
the is just no demand for a working blockchain. the peak of transactions is 43 per day!
so you could not send anything for 8 days now.. but if somebody would have a urgent transaction, he would just have to add a fee of 3 ANC , so the multipools would see high profit and process the blockchain. That would be 0.48 USD, so an affordable price for a real use case.

but again, lets look at the transaction value ( mining excluded )

Code:

Month(time)	blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)
8	1.143	214	147.934,6117284298
7	10.947	1.693	82.260,2236501966

interpretation 3: security
the block reward is just too low. a double-spend attack is very cheap.
 but again see point 2: nobody would care about that as nobody uses ANC:
this month there were only 25000 USD transferred. even with an optimistic fee of 0.1 % we only get 25$ for network security

[AltcoinScamfinder]

so cryptopia is back online.. they processed deposits and withdrawals show up as transactions..

but what about the ANC blockchain itself? it is completely fucked up!
the last block was found 8 days(!) ago..

i have 24 peers, the new version 90611 and are on block 565028. cryptopia is also on block 565028.
all other block explorers are down.
so is truely nobody mining ( because of low profitability ) ?

Code:

time		blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)	AVG(difficulty)	MAX(height)
2016-08-20	36	9	84,3581237793	0,0000212517	565.028
2016-08-18	38	10	142,3270463943	0,0000228184	564.992
2016-08-17	61	4	77,0836935043	0,000024477	564.954
2016-08-16	1	11	27.368,44140625	0,00000107	564.893
2016-08-15	32	4	61,478717804		0,0000165034	564.892
2016-08-14	346	43	762,0881061554	0,0000071297	564.860
2016-08-13	140	16	3.302,6591997147	0,0000095491	564.514
2016-08-12	1	7	112,8434906006	0,00000028	564.374
2016-08-11	21	1	28.502,58984375	0,0000020805	564.373
2016-08-10	218	27	71.414,309014082	0,0000117845	564.352
2016-08-09	1	21	6.126,3051757812	0,00000059	564.134
2016-08-07	34	9	1.208,0912075043	0,0000149368	564.133
2016-08-06	16	0	0			0,0000043375	564.099
2016-08-05	84	11	622,5356903076	0,0000225308	564.083

it does even not make sense to mine now.. because of the "retarget every block", it would be the following:
block 565029 = diff 521 ( 50 % of LTC profit, so you have to pay 200% hashing price )
block 565030 = diff very low (  hashing price low but above zero )
block 565031 = diff high again, as everybody mines the low block rapidly.

so i could either mine LTC, or i could mine 1 block ANC for double price plus 1 block ANC for free. so the average value is the same. so my conclusion would be not to mine ANC.....

so i really don't see the advantage of the hardfork??


CS: you probably put a lot of work into this document ( https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 ).. but without a proper introduction, a defintion of the different terms and a deeper discussion of the results, its just your own brainfuck, which nobody else can understand ( nor help you with )

interpretation 1: miner perscpective
you fucked it up. ( as the chain is dead now ) - sorry

interpretation 2: user perspective
the is just no demand for a working blockchain. the peak of transactions is 43 per day!
so you could not send anything for 8 days now.. but if somebody would have a urgent transaction, he would just have to add a fee of 3 ANC , so the multipools would see high profit and process the blockchain. That would be 0.48 USD, so an affordable price for a real use case.

but again, lets look at the transaction value ( mining excluded )

Code:

Month(time)	blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)
8	1.143	214	147.934,6117284298
7	10.947	1.693	82.260,2236501966

interpretation 3: security
the block reward is just too low. a double-spend attack is very cheap.
 but again see point 2: nobody would care about that as nobody uses ANC:
this month there were only 25000 USD transferred. even with an optimistic fee of 0.1 % we only get 25$ for network security

I'l willing to dedicate some hash power to this if we can get it going again. What's the latest info on pool or solo mining, software, wallet etc.?

[tomothy]

Can anyone recommend what to buy to help network? It's tough parsing through what is sensible and relatively economical (in terms of mining at a loss but not a huge loss) to buy equipment. Just wondering.

[M8BWNNRFMNdak68c]

network moves again. i really don't understand that difficulty adjustment!
block 565.030 did get an even higher diff, although 565.029 took 684065 seconds to be found!

Code:

coin	height	time		difficulty	transactions	volume		mined	spacing
9	565.038	2016-08-30 19:08:31	0,00000903	0	0		2,5	28
9	565.037	2016-08-30 19:08:03	0,00000725	0	0		2,5	24
9	565.036	2016-08-30 19:07:39	0,00000578	0	0		2,5	61
9	565.035	2016-08-30 19:06:38	0,00000457	0	0		2,5	12
9	565.034	2016-08-30 19:06:26	0,00000359	0	0		2,5	35
9	565.033	2016-08-30 19:05:51	0,00000391	0	0		2,5	115
9	565.032	2016-08-30 19:03:56	0,0000023	0	0		2,5	3.353
9	565.031	2016-08-30 18:08:03	0,00000135	1	280,397		2,5	694
9	565.030	2016-08-30 17:56:29	0,0000008	0	0		2,5	175.120
9	565.029	2016-08-28 17:17:49	0,00000047	15	1.969,82	2,88937	684.065
9	565.028	2016-08-20 19:16:44	0,00000064	0	0		2,5	331

[Apraksin]

Hadn't noticed this before now after being rather lazy on the forum.

I had about 4000 anc in an old wallet for which I have lost my password. Are they now irredeemably lost because of the hard fork?

[Chris Sokolowski]

I would be happy to put the Prohashing pool back on Anoncoin, but the daemon just returns "error: {"code":-10,"message":"Anoncoin is downloading blocks..."}" when calling getblocktemplate even though we are on the same block as Cryptopia.

[cryptohunter]

Hadn't noticed this before now after being rather lazy on the forum.

I had about 4000 anc in an old wallet for which I have lost my password. Are they now irredeemably lost because of the hard fork?

If you lost your pass then yes i would think so.

Is this coin making a comeback ....sad to see the original anon coin in such a sorry state really.

[Spidersbox]

please explain:
Difficulty 0.00000045
Network hash 5.65 GH/s

[ysell]

I've tried to install the linux wallet version on a rasberry pi and am getting the error after the make command: "make -j`nproc`"

It looks like the source of the tar file has been deleted from Google and anoncoin.net?

_{user-desktop:~/anoncoin/depends$ sudo make -j`nproc`
Fetching native_protobuf...
https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://anoncoin.net/depends-sources/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
funcs.mk:231: recipe for target '/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2' failed
make: *** [/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2] Error 8}

How can I get the make command to source the protobuf from a working source here https://github.com/google/protobuf/releases/download/v2.5.0/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2 . I presume the wget url within the anoncoin qt setup needs to be modified.

Thanks for any help

[Cryptoslave]

so cryptopia is back online.. they processed deposits and withdrawals show up as transactions..

but what about the ANC blockchain itself? it is completely fucked up!
the last block was found 8 days(!) ago..

i have 24 peers, the new version 90611 and are on block 565028. cryptopia is also on block 565028.
all other block explorers are down.
so is truely nobody mining ( because of low profitability ) ?

Thank you for this thoughtful post,

Indeed, nobody was mining for this reason. Because KGW made 150+ easy blocks when a miner found the highest difficulty block, it was a strong intensive for miners to mine after 12 h - 24 h without blocks. Then multipools automatically hoped on for the fest and difficulty went up after 150 quick blocks. Here with GR-PID the process is the same but the reward much lower as about 20 blocks are easy. So nobody care.

Code:

time		blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)	AVG(difficulty)	MAX(height)
2016-08-20	36	9	84,3581237793	0,0000212517	565.028
2016-08-18	38	10	142,3270463943	0,0000228184	564.992
2016-08-17	61	4	77,0836935043	0,000024477	564.954
2016-08-16	1	11	27.368,44140625	0,00000107	564.893
2016-08-15	32	4	61,478717804		0,0000165034	564.892
2016-08-14	346	43	762,0881061554	0,0000071297	564.860
2016-08-13	140	16	3.302,6591997147	0,0000095491	564.514
2016-08-12	1	7	112,8434906006	0,00000028	564.374
2016-08-11	21	1	28.502,58984375	0,0000020805	564.373
2016-08-10	218	27	71.414,309014082	0,0000117845	564.352
2016-08-09	1	21	6.126,3051757812	0,00000059	564.134
2016-08-07	34	9	1.208,0912075043	0,0000149368	564.133
2016-08-06	16	0	0			0,0000043375	564.099
2016-08-05	84	11	622,5356903076	0,0000225308	564.083

it does even not make sense to mine now.. because of the "retarget every block", it would be the following:
block 565029 = diff 521 ( 50 % of LTC profit, so you have to pay 200% hashing price )
block 565030 = diff very low (  hashing price low but above zero )
block 565031 = diff high again, as everybody mines the low block rapidly.

so i could either mine LTC, or i could mine 1 block ANC for double price plus 1 block ANC for free. so the average value is the same. so my conclusion would be not to mine ANC.....

You are wrong, sorry in this case the diff will do like this:

Long time with no block, we are at block x:
block x -> difficulty yyy
next block x+1 -> often more difficult (delay of one block in the retargetting system, diff will go up if the diff was increasing, but down 1.7 times if it was decreasing)
block x+2 -> much easier (1.7 times easier than x+1)
block x+3 -> much easier (1.7 times easier than x+2)
block x+4 -> much easier (1.2 to 1.7 times easier than x+3) - now the average of 6 blocks down i hit and hinder the drop of diff
block x+2 -> easier (1.2 times easier than x+1) (1.2 is set by the average limit on 6 blocks and 170%, the exact value I have the data but not on hand right now)
...
~block x+20 -> difficulty at lowest because it decreased 1.2 times each time till now (if less delay in the first block then this lowest block will be ofc before x+20, and the lowest point of difficulty higher)
block x+21 -> difficulty increase x2 when the very long block is throw out of the tipfilter and is no more used in calculation of difficulty
block x+22 -> difficulty increase x2
block x+23 -> difficulty increase x1.3-x2 - now the average of 6 blocks up is hit and hinder the increase of diff
block x+24 -> difficulty increase x1.3 (1.3 is set by the average limit on 4 blocks and 200%, the exact value I have the data but not on hand right now)
...
block x+z -> difficulty reached the maximum because lots of quick blocks appeared the last 21 blocks, this was exagerated because of drop of difficulty and simultaneous increase of hashrate due to multipool switching to mine ANC. The fest is over, difficulty more difficult than LTC so multipool go away. Nobody mine the coin because there is no faithful miner.

so i really don't see the advantage of the hardfork??

This is complicated because there is no permanent mining going on, only multipool. Those actor dont see the advantage over KGW neither, otherwise they would mine. We need some fraction of constant hashrate.

CS: you probably put a lot of work into this document ( https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver1 ).. but without a proper introduction, a defintion of the different terms and a deeper discussion of the results, its just your own brainfuck, which nobody else can understand ( nor help you with )

Do not worry nobody so far is interested in updating the code but me And if someone is interested he will understand easily, the generated csv file is easy to grasp for someone motivated.

interpretation 1: miner perscpective
you fucked it up. ( as the chain is dead now ) - sorry

Well not dead, but certainly it has not intensive to mine like when KGW was the difficulty algo. But then it was unfair too all this instamining every 8 or 12 hours.

interpretation 2: user perspective
the is just no demand for a working blockchain. the peak of transactions is 43 per day!
so you could not send anything for 8 days now.. but if somebody would have a urgent transaction, he would just have to add a fee of 3 ANC , so the multipools would see high profit and process the blockchain. That would be 0.48 USD, so an affordable price for a real use case.

but again, lets look at the transaction value ( mining excluded )

Code:

Month(time)	blocks	SUM(transactions)	SUM(volume)
8	1.143	214	147.934,6117284298
7	10.947	1.693	82.260,2236501966

I dont think multipool would hop on ANC for 3 ANC. It would be interesting to try.

interpretation 3: security
the block reward is just too low. a double-spend attack is very cheap.

Not really, once the block are released on network, and 6 blocks passed, the hashrate is already a lot because the multipools are mining at this time. I would agree if nobody jumped on the chain but this is not what happen, it is just that every miner wait another miner to mine the 1 (or 2) difficult block.

but again see point 2: nobody would care about that as nobody uses ANC:
this month there were only 25000 USD transferred. even with an optimistic fee of 0.1 % we only get 25$ for network security

Like you said user can give the fee they want, but I dont know to what extent this will motivate miner to mine the difficult block?

CS

[Cryptoslave]

I'l willing to dedicate some hash power to this if we can get it going again. What's the latest info on pool or solo mining, software, wallet etc.?

Check the first post of this thread. Mining solo with ASIC is fine. Pools are listed on the first post, but some delisted ANC recently, and all are multipools. Mining on multipools makes the problem more difficult.

There will be the release of another wallet soon, with updated PID and moving average values. Until then youcan mine using the wallet listed on the first post of this thread or master on github/anoncoin.

[Cryptoslave]

Can anyone recommend what to buy to help network? It's tough parsing through what is sensible and relatively economical (in terms of mining at a loss but not a huge loss) to buy equipment. Just wondering.

Hello tomothy,

Well the network shall be alive even with only multipool hashrate around, I have some idea to make the mining more attractive but have not finish to test it, yet.

Otherwise, apparatus is ASIC Scrypt miner above 100 MH/s is fine, and solo mining or on a p2pool or on a pure anoncoin pool without autoswitcher.

Thanks

[Cryptoslave]

network moves again. i really don't understand that difficulty adjustment!
block 565.030 did get an even higher diff, although 565.029 took 684065 seconds to be found!

Code:

coin	height	time		difficulty	transactions	volume		mined	spacing
9	565.038	2016-08-30 19:08:31	0,00000903	0	0		2,5	28
9	565.037	2016-08-30 19:08:03	0,00000725	0	0		2,5	24
9	565.036	2016-08-30 19:07:39	0,00000578	0	0		2,5	61
9	565.035	2016-08-30 19:06:38	0,00000457	0	0		2,5	12
9	565.034	2016-08-30 19:06:26	0,00000359	0	0		2,5	35
9	565.033	2016-08-30 19:05:51	0,00000391	0	0		2,5	115
9	565.032	2016-08-30 19:03:56	0,0000023	0	0		2,5	3.353
9	565.031	2016-08-30 18:08:03	0,00000135	1	280,397		2,5	694
9	565.030	2016-08-30 17:56:29	0,0000008	0	0		2,5	175.120
9	565.029	2016-08-28 17:17:49	0,00000047	15	1.969,82	2,88937	684.065
9	565.028	2016-08-20 19:16:44	0,00000064	0	0		2,5	331

It is normal, there is a delay of two blocks for the retargetting to understand it shall go down. If it was already going down it would have gone at the lowest allowed difficulty, but it was going up the previous block because of all the small blocks preceding.

I will try to do a delay of zero block for the retargetting, that is it will retarget the actual block through getblocktemplate if no one find it after a certain time, this is a part of the solution to resolve the problem. The second change will be in the moving averages to make it less aggressive by averagin more blocks. The last change will be the PID, I will introduce a derivative term.

All those changes were tested already on testnets but not with an hardfork, and some may be difficult to implement using an hardfork, but we will see.

[Cryptoslave]

Can anyone recommend what to buy to help network? It's tough parsing through what is sensible and relatively economical (in terms of mining at a loss but not a huge loss) to buy equipment. Just wondering.

How many different miners are there btw? Is it a one-miner-per-algorithm or can you mine many other different coins? When I started, there were essentially Scrypt and SHA256... now there are LOTS of them, do you need one miner per algo to be the most efficient, or how does it work? Just wondering myself also of buying some dedicated miner and mine some ANC, but if ANC does not provide any good profits I'd want to jump in to some other coin.

Many different mining algorithm, some are for common harware like CPU or GPU, some became for specialized hardware like FPGA and ASIC. Scrypt is now only ASIC minable if you want to ROI.

Hadn't noticed this before now after being rather lazy on the forum.

I had about 4000 anc in an old wallet for which I have lost my password. Are they now irredeemably lost because of the hard fork?

No, they are lost because you have lost the password. If you find back your password, the wallet.dat is totally compatible with the new wallet, after hardfork.

I would be happy to put the Prohashing pool back on Anoncoin, but the daemon just returns "error: {"code":-10,"message":"Anoncoin is downloading blocks..."}" when calling getblocktemplate even though we are on the same block as Cryptopia.

Thank you, this is normal it is because you are stuck in initial block download because the wallet see the last block time stamp far away in the past so thinks there was blocks in between when indeed there were none.

When the next block will be found it will synchronize if you are connected to peers. I just patched a wallet to make it avoid this error and will run my ASIC to find the next block soon.

[Cryptoslave]

Hadn't noticed this before now after being rather lazy on the forum.

I had about 4000 anc in an old wallet for which I have lost my password. Are they now irredeemably lost because of the hard fork?

If you lost your pass then yes i would think so.

Is this coin making a comeback ....sad to see the original anon coin in such a sorry state really.

Well after the next tuning of parameters it will roll again.  

please explain:
Difficulty 0.00000045
Network hash 5.65 GH/s

See https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/rpcblockchain.cpp

Code:

Value getdifficulty(const Array& params, bool fHelp)
{
    if (fHelp || params.size() != 0)
        throw runtime_error(
            "getdifficulty\n"
            "\nReturns the proof-of-work required difficulty now at the tip of the block chain.\n"
            "\nResult:\n"
            "n.nnn       (numeric) The minimum difficulty is defined as 1 and this result is linear relative to that value.\n"
            "            Smaller values indicate harder, larger an easier difficulty and all blocks will have a value < 1.\n"
            "\nExamples:\n"
            + HelpExampleCli("getdifficulty", "")
            + HelpExampleRpc("getdifficulty", "")
        );

    LOCK(cs_main);
    return GetDifficulty();
}

(...)

//! Returns the floating point number that represents a multiple of the minimum
//! difficulty that was required, and found within the given block index entries
//! nBits field.  If the block index pointer given is NULL, then we use the active
//! chain tip block index as the one for which this evaluation is made.
//! minimum difficulty = 1.0, and the value goes down when difficulty is harder,
//! and up when the difficulty is easier.
double GetDifficulty(const CBlockIndex* blockindex)
{
    if (blockindex == NULL)
    {
        if (chainActive.Tip() == NULL)
            return 1.0;
        else
            blockindex = chainActive.Tip();
    }
    uint256 uintBlockDiff;
    uintBlockDiff.SetCompact( blockindex->nBits );
    return 1.0 / GetLinearWork( uintBlockDiff, Params().ProofOfWorkLimit( CChainParams::ALGO_SCRYPT ) );
}

As many people are confuse about the difficulty value returned by getdifficulty, in the next release it will return GetLinearWork( uintBlockDiff, Params().ProofOfWorkLimit( CChainParams::ALGO_SCRYPT ) ) and not the inverse of this value.

I think this is also the reason why coinwarz and coinmarketcap delisted anoncoin... so this will also be patched, people prefer a difficulty going to infinity than to zero. This was a choice of GroundRod to reflect the actual true value of difficulty which indeed becomes smaller as it becomes more difficult, but the community do not like it (and me neither BTW).

I've tried to install the linux wallet version on a rasberry pi and am getting the error after the make command: "make -j`nproc`"

It looks like the source of the tar file has been deleted from Google and anoncoin.net?

_{user-desktop:~/anoncoin/depends$ sudo make -j`nproc`
Fetching native_protobuf...
https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://anoncoin.net/depends-sources/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
funcs.mk:231: recipe for target '/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2' failed
make: *** [/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2] Error 8}

How can I get the make command to source the protobuf from a working source here https://github.com/google/protobuf/releases/download/v2.5.0/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2 . I presume the wget url within the anoncoin qt setup needs to be modified.

Thanks for any help

I did not have this issue when building today on linux, did you try again? Otherwise I posted how to build without toolchain, try it maybe?

[Cryptoslave]

txId: 2c06031eb78870342b99d9727e72061b7ab394d426a6586966adb975ab423df8 is in block 565650 with 880 confirmations right now

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz//BlockExplorer?id=190&blockHash=e4ce411c6b84afb23d6b0ff0a8797cf0202d1629e07b02491ee9e13db210b089

Confirmed to be on the same chain that the 3 seed nodes

22:15:32

getrawtransaction 2c06031eb78870342b99d9727e72061b7ab394d426a6586966adb975ab423df8


22:15:32

01000000026278383f8ab3973929b996b3edade38f4ab6f8783587323d5af9a1773224978301000 0006b483045022100de20bc6edc861ad4061b3aeb748850cba00fb5f11f9fdb9e7086cc98c19b0e 96022073a380a4a4ef5de81cc42227b7c6c69ea7b1572703e9858a4f4b50f922365ea7012103f8c ed6ca81b26e0bb8bd8a5a690841d0461bfbfebe6a7f5ebc03014d16dc18d2ffffffff4064aa8905 c862680d2d1b4c9ec583dc84275dea53f19200b669a33479a4b558000000006a473044022040841 99bd1438075ae6bc5927966399ca85350dbcddfb2041e0a9a489cbab14102200bc3f8dd528b1200 86d858a054707439e677b3ff4995efc7e05c1cf3865c8038012102032ec208d6a3eb4d538dc464e 1dd2fad15fa41fc410fb68f624554f3cb1382beffffffff0211c31400000000001976a914c6c935 d0c0244ef3e7c14e9119769131b21f0c0188ac65689102020000001976a914c19babde725dd5619 b8a374644a33af426a6be1e88ac00000000


So cryptopia is right and BTC38 shall resynchronize their wallet.

Hope it help, CS

[ysell]

I've tried to install the linux wallet version on a rasberry pi and am getting the error after the make command: "make -j`nproc`"

It looks like the source of the tar file has been deleted from Google and anoncoin.net?

_{user-desktop:~/anoncoin/depends$ sudo make -j`nproc`
Fetching native_protobuf...
https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://anoncoin.net/depends-sources/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
funcs.mk:231: recipe for target '/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2' failed
make: *** [/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2] Error 8}

How can I get the make command to source the protobuf from a working source here https://github.com/google/protobuf/releases/download/v2.5.0/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2 . I presume the wget url within the anoncoin qt setup needs to be modified.

Thanks for any help

I did not have this issue when building today on linux, did you try again? Otherwise I posted how to build without toolchain, try it maybe?

Okay it's because the Anoncoin library is setup for Intel so won't work on Raspberry Pi 1,2 or 3. SSE and SSE2 are Intel/AMD specific extensions that are not supported on ARM, ARM has it's own NEON SIMD extensions. It seems to me like I was trying to cross-compile a program for ARM and using the native Anoncoin g++ toolchain. Rasbpberry Pi seems to work in installing the bitcoin wallet because the Bitcoin library includes Arm support. Arm support sometime in the future possibly?

[Chris Sokolowski]

from what it seems cryptopia is about to remove the anc market because of wallet sync issues

Well, Cryptopia's ANC wallet is locked (again).  They typically don't have much patience for issues with coin clients, regardless of the cause.  So I would not be surprised if they announced they were removing ANC even if the cause was not the developer's fault.

[M8BWNNRFMNdak68c]

Thank you four the reply, CS  

Like you said user can give the fee they want, but I dont know to what extent this will motivate miner to mine the difficult block?

it's quite simple. let's say the diff is 130 and the price 0.00017753
empty block: Reward 2.5 -> Profit 0.0684496
block with fee 2.5: Reward 5 -> Profit 0.1368992
a modern multipool should see the difference.. ( coinbasevalue )

[M8BWNNRFMNdak68c]

Cryptopias Wallet is working. but they gave up, market is closed.

ANC / BTC market is closing

Unfortunately Cryptopia have been unable to keep a stable wallet running for ANC, Despite many attempts to resolve the orphan transaction issue with our wallet we still have an 80% transaction failure rate which is causing heavy support loads on the staff to reprocess orphaned transactions. It is with regret that we have now decided to delist ANC as it is unfair to our users to have coins stuck during the constant maintenance periods of the Cryptopia ANC wallet. Please close all open orders and cease all deposits and withdraw all ANC before 30/01/2016.

[kelsey]

This is sad, ANC market going to crash. ANC was my favourite coin, but thank you Cryptopia for helping my coins out. THanks

you do realise ANC is listed on btc38 a chinese exchange much much bigger then cryptopia?

[botija]

That looks like the same logo as that Ark coin. I wonder if they stole it. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfWWhhgD.jpg&t=569&c=8vS8gk8_iUNbXA

[botija]

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Receivers-Motion-for-Authorizing-to-Liquidate-Certain-Cryptocurrencies-Secured-by-the-Receiver.pdf


There are lots of ANC that will all be sold at some point... and we won't get our funds back. I had several  thousands of ANC in Cryptsy

Man that sucks. I hope you're part of the class action lawsuit.

[Cryptoslave]

Yes 159K is a lot of Anoncoin... time to put buy wall on BTC38

So otherwise, a new hardfork will be done at block 585000 or at 590000 depending of when I am happy with the last tuning of the PID parameters (the integral gain and time). Other PID parameter and moving average are set now, and there was added an automatic lowering of the difficulty if no block is found in 30 minutes, mining allowed during long synchronisation and the difficulty back to greater than number 1 for simplicity sake and by request from users and third party website.

I will commit this week and the hardfork will be in 20-30 days.

[tomothy]

Thanks CS, keep up the good work. I know ZC was talked about before with Gnosis; before that ran into difficulty. I know that ZCash is nearing launch/completion. Have you had an opportunity to review their code as compared to what had been previously developed with regards to ANC. Is there any overlap or ability to incorporate new features from Zcash into ANC and continue to be supported under i2p? Just wondering. Thanks in advance and again, keep up the hard work!

[Cryptoslave]

Hi,

No, Zerocash is a totally different tech than zerocoin, despite the name. Zerocash is most inclusive and have small proof using zkSnark but there is a trusted setup, albeit multiparty.

Zcoin is the old moneta, it is a shaddy scam coin made by former vertcoin dev, and matt green former master student, Poramin Insom. Firstly the dev scammed ppl with premined zerovert, a merge mined with vertcoin scamcoin. Then he along another friend of him who has somewhat shaddy reputation on the web, for reason I dont care of, took the zerovert code along with a couple subsidies apparently and developped moneta. Finally after they remained quite for almost a year they renamed their project to zcoin probaly to create confusion along zcash launch.

Even if not for those shaddy technique, I cannot recommand their implementation of zerocoin. Indeed, they used for the master key one RSA factoring challenge number. It is dubious to think this number factorisation was generated long ago by RSA Lab for the challenge without keeping the data somewhere.

For trustless zerocoin implementation RSA-UFO is the best IMO.  We generated some of them long ago, but Gnosis somehow put the project on hold and I cannot tell if he will continue or not at this point working on it.

To answer your question, I asked Gnosis a few month back, if he would use Moneta code for speeding up its implementation of zerocoin in anoncoin, but he said it was best he continue from where he was because he used RSA-UFO. Then I did not insist and since then I dont have news. Zcash is totally not compatible, but they have an I2P dev in the team called Str4d.

[ysell]

I've tried to install the linux wallet version on a rasberry pi and am getting the error after the make command: "make -j`nproc`"

the error:

_{user-desktop:~/anoncoin/depends$ sudo make -j`nproc`
Fetching native_protobuf...
https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://anoncoin.net/depends-sources/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
funcs.mk:231: recipe for target '/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2' failed
make: *** [/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2] Error 8}

How can I get the make command to source the protobuf from a working source here https://github.com/google/protobuf/releases/download/v2.5.0/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2 .Is there a file with the link to the

Thanks for any help

I did not have this issue when building today on linux, did you try again? Otherwise I posted how to build without toolchain, try it maybe?

I've tried various Ubuntu versions on an Intel i5 laptop, I'm now on Xubuntu 16.04 and still having no luck.

It looks like the source of the tar file has been deleted from Google and anoncoin.net. If I run "sudo protoc --version" it shows that I am running the correct protobuf (libprotoc 2.5.0) so I don't know why it's not using the native installed version.  The protobuf source that is called while in the /depends directory, and when using the make command is a source that is dead: "https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2" . I tried running "make -i" to ignore this error and move onto using the native protobuf that I installed from Github, but this does not create the GUI when running Anoncoin.

I tried using your instructions for starting Anoncoin without the toolchain, but all I get is "Anoncoin in running on clearnet" without the GUI or splashscreen appearing. Is there anyway of changing the file to change the Protobuf source or alternatively running the make command to source the protobuf from a pre installed directory?

Thanks for your help so far Cryptoslave

[Cryptoslave]

I've tried to install the linux wallet version on a rasberry pi and am getting the error after the make command: "make -j`nproc`"

the error:

_{user-desktop:~/anoncoin/depends$ sudo make -j`nproc`
Fetching native_protobuf...
https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://anoncoin.net/depends-sources/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2:
2016-09-05  ERROR 404: Not Found.
funcs.mk:231: recipe for target '/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2' failed
make: *** [/home/user/anoncoin/depends/sources/download-stamps/.stamp_fetched-native_protobuf-protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2] Error 8}

How can I get the make command to source the protobuf from a working source here https://github.com/google/protobuf/releases/download/v2.5.0/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2 .Is there a file with the link to the

Thanks for any help

I did not have this issue when building today on linux, did you try again? Otherwise I posted how to build without toolchain, try it maybe?

I've tried various Ubuntu versions on an Intel i5 laptop, I'm now on Xubuntu 16.04 and still having no luck.

It looks like the source of the tar file has been deleted from Google and anoncoin.net. If I run "sudo protoc --version" it shows that I am running the correct protobuf (libprotoc 2.5.0) so I don't know why it's not using the native installed version.  The protobuf source that is called while in the /depends directory, and when using the make command is a source that is dead: "https://protobuf.googlecode.com/files/protobuf-2.5.0.tar.bz2" . I tried running "make -i" to ignore this error and move onto using the native protobuf that I installed from Github, but this does not create the GUI when running Anoncoin.

I tried using your instructions for starting Anoncoin without the toolchain, but all I get is "Anoncoin in running on clearnet" without the GUI or splashscreen appearing. Is there anyway of changing the file to change the Protobuf source or alternatively running the make command to source the protobuf from a pre installed directory?

Thanks for your help so far Cryptoslave

Hi,

You were right, the path to protobuf changed. I did a quick commit to master branch, can you try to build the latest now?

[ysell]

Hi,

You were right, the path to protobuf changed. I did a quick commit to master branch, can you try to build the latest now?

That did the job. No errors this time. I still get "Anoncoin running on clearnet". With no splash screen or GUI. Is it normal to have to wait over 24 hours to see a GUI as it builds the database?

Thanks for your help so far Cryptoslave.

[Raxitto]

dev if interested in portuguese translation... pm me please
thx

[Cryptoslave]

Hi,

You were right, the path to protobuf changed. I did a quick commit to master branch, can you try to build the latest now?

That did the job. No errors this time. I still get "Anoncoin running on clearnet". With no splash screen or GUI. Is it normal to have to wait over 24 hours to see a GUI as it builds the database?

Thanks for your help so far Cryptoslave.

What do you mean?

Anoncoin-qtc is with GUI, anoncoind/cli without GUI

Anoncoin running on clearnet message can be removed by the option stfu=0 in anoncoin.conf

When it builds the database you shall be in the GUI already, unless you reindex but it shall not happen on first launch, only if you change txindex=0 to txindex=1 in anoncoin.conf

What do you mean you have to wait 24 h for the GUI?

CS

[ysell]

Just restarted and the wallet.dat was corrupt "salvage failed". Must have been hanging. I'll do a reindex. See if it works.

[Cryptoslave]

Just restarted and the wallet.dat was corrupt "salvage failed". Must have been hanging. I'll do a reindex. See if it works.

Did you have coin in this wallet?

I mean why don't you start again from an empty .anoncoin data directory?

CS

[ysell]

Anoncoin is up and running. Thanks Cryptoslave. The reindex did the job. My problem now is that I've left it running for 24 hours and it's still 2 weeks out of sync.

[Cryptoslave]

Hi,

You shall in fact also git pull the new master 0.9.6.12 which is the new version which will hardfork at block 585555.

Everybody is invited to rebuild the new client.

I will do a post describing changes soon.

CS

[Cryptoslave]

ANONCOIN 0.9.6.12

ANONCOIN NEW VERSION 0.9.6.12 RELEASED - 12 OCTOBER 2016 - HARDFORK @ BLOCK 585555

We announce the official release of the new master based on Anoncoin 0.9.6.12.

This new version (v0.9.6.12-3fd47af) is an obligatory update of Anoncoin with an HARDFORK @ block 585555

Featured changes in this version are the following:

Difficulty algorithm tuned:
- PID tuning to make diff adjustment less aggressive:
      NMAXDIFFINCREASE "200" -> 150 (less difficulty increase, to avoid huge spike in diff)
      NMAXDIFFDECREASE "170" -> 130 (less difficulty decrease, to avoid lots of easy mined block)
      DMININTEGRATOR 170 -> 176 (less difficulty increase on long term because it is not needed as testnet showed)
      DMAXINTEGRATOR 190 -> 195 (more difficulty decrease as we have seen multipool jumping on/off in long term slow the blockchain)
      WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_UP 4 -> 9 (taking more blocks into the average up slow down diff increase and avoid huge spike in diff)
      WEIGHTEDAVGTIPBLOCKS_DOWN 6 -> 20 (taking much more blocks into the average down slow down the difficulty decrease and hence avoid too many easy blocks in a row)
      PID_PROPORTIONALGAIN 1.7 -> 1.6 (reduce aggressiveness of proportional term)
      PID_INTEGRATORTIME 172800 -> 129600 (integral term of 1.5 day to adjust quickly to abnormal number of emitted block)
      PID_INTEGRATORGAIN 5 -> 8 (the integral term now has more weight in the difficulty calculation, the ranges are respectively of (180-176)*8=32 vs 50 for difficulty going up and of (195-180)*8=120 vs 50 for difficulty going down. So compared to the previous settings, the difficulty can adjust more readily to a slow blockchain to achieve 180 sec avg per block.)
     PID_DERIVATIVEGAIN 0 -> 3 (adjust quickly to change of block time ie at apex of difficulty it will drop quicker, and at lowest turn up quicker)

- Auto-adjustment of difficulty via getblocktemplate to a low one if no block is found in 30 minutes

- The difficulty is now expressed again into a positive >1 number, because people and services complained of 0-1 range

- Blockchain synchronization issues fix (in case no block is found for a long time because of miner exodus, mining will be allowed up to one week old unsynchronized chain)

- Bug because of toolchain build of protobuf solved



Every Anoncoin user shall update to this 9.6.12 version ASAP. This is a mandatory upgrade, as after block 585555 the old peers will be disconnected. The version 9.6.11 will be obsolete when the HARDFORK block 585555 will be mined. This will occur the 27 October or in about 2 weeks.

To update to the new version (v0.9.6.12-3fd47af), simply rebuild master following this guide:
To build from source: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source

Windows build are available here:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/v0.9.6.12

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/download/v0.9.6.12/anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win64-setup.exe
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win64-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 AC0B96AB335BE6E7E78B7D325AF4EBB3 SHA-1 DDB9A4BF777A870D874D872FCB381EF05FBF5E38

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/download/v0.9.6.12/anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win32-setup.exe
anoncoin-0.9.6.12-win32-setup.exe Checksum: MD5 564AE5FAC81FC550389071FB9C2BF927 SHA-1 7F7A9E2C303682EA9056DA55136D25C391BE3873

CS

[ysell]

The order volume is incredibly low on Exchange i2p. I have tried to order a small amount of Anoncoin but the order is just sitting there and has been for over a day. Seems as though Cryptoslave is really giving this cryptocurrency value with his steady development. I don't know why people are not trading?

[Cryptoslave]

Everybody shall upgrade ASAP to Anoncoin 0.9.6.12! the hardfork is imminent!

Thx

[chases]

Alot of work has gone into this project, I don't understand the low volume either. Great job guys!

[tomothy]

Getting it added to more exchanges and seen by more people would help; but making that happen, especially since all of its past troubles is probably an uphill battle. I think POLO has coin voting or something but not sure how any of that works.

[coin2.0]

the coin should put on the Poloniex

[Cryptoslave]

NovaExchange states that it uses wallet version 60000, what does that mean?

Version    90612
Wallet Version    60000


Is it all OK for the coming hardfork?

Yes Novaexchange, exchanged.i2p and hashtocoins are on the correct chain (version 0.9.6.12)

But BTC38 and prohashing are not on the correct chain yet! Do NOT trade on BTC38 or mine on Prohashing until they updated to 0.9.6.12

Many others nodes have not updated

Update ASAP there is only 3 days remaining!

BTW SSL certificate is outdate on wiki.anoncoin.net, meeh is advised, sorry about that...

[Chris Sokolowski]

But BTC38 and prohashing are not on the correct chain yet! Do NOT trade on BTC38 or mine on Prohashing until they updated to 0.9.6.12

We at Prohashing have updated our client and are ready for the fork.

[Tyke]

The ninth book of the series is close to being complete.  I began researching and writing it back in March 2016.  A cover has already been designed:




If you were present during the first year of the coin, please contact me.  I would like a personal statement from you. 

[Cryptoslave]

NovaExchange states that it uses wallet version 60000, what does that mean?

Version    90612
Wallet Version    60000


Is it all OK for the coming hardfork?

Yes Novaexchange, exchanged.i2p and hashtocoins are on the correct chain (version 0.9.6.12)

But BTC38 and prohashing are not on the correct chain yet! Do NOT trade on BTC38 or mine on Prohashing until they updated to 0.9.6.12

Yes Novaexchange, exchanged.i2p, hashtocoins, prohashing are on the correct chain (version 0.9.6.12)

But BTC38 is still not on the correct chain yet! Do NOT trade on BTC38 until they updated to 0.9.6.12

[Cryptoslave]

BTC38 is now on the correct 0.9.6.12

thank you

Ah and the fork was a success!

[Cryptoslave]

Where do you see this info (about btc38)? I think you are wrong, bro I sent coins from NovaExchange successfully after the block 585555. If btc38 would be on the wrong chain, then also N-E would be and that is not the case

They have not updated, they still link to 0.9.6.11 and their support team said they will update but it is not done yet.
See http://www.btc38.com/download/download_wallet/27.html and there is no news about 0.9.6.12 update.

Also they did not reply to any of the 10 emails I sent to 比特时代 <contact@mail.btc38.com>

The fact you can send coins there means two things:

Some nodes 0.9.6.11 are still connected to some node 0.9.6.12 and can relay transaction to the old version. Nodes 0.9.6.11 that do not broadcast block are not banned without a restart of the 0.9.6.12 daemon after block 585555, and probably many did not restart and some are connected to old nodes.

Secondly, the coins you sent probably have a shared history common to the two chains, previous 585555 block. Like ETC/ETH those coins before the fork coexist in both chains. Anybody buying now from BTC38 essentially are buying ANC on an outdated chain so are potentially losing money, unless the coin BTC38 send also share a common history. I recommend to not trade on BTC38 until they set the matter and update. They were very quick last time and responded well at email, it is a wonder they are now behaving this way. I urge everybody trading there to open support ticket until the matter is resolved, their support team answer those but are ineficient to build the new client. The support team has to tell the sysadmin to update, so please open support ticket and spam them.

I think everybody has recognized that we do not suffer long interval without block anymore, thanks to the much better parameters chosen for the PID, I am very happy with the results so far!

CS

[ysell]

Please check out my tutorial in setting up Anoncoin on a cold storage flash drive USB: http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/ .

I have also written about why Anoncoin will be a necessary tool in the fight for privacy here: http://www.docomputing.co.uk/what-is-so-important-about-privacy-on-the-internet-and-in-cryptocurrency/

Please let me know of any corrections I need to make or items I should add. Thanks

[nikl]

Pool: http://ypool.ga/anc

[nikl]

Dev, it's something wrong with difficulty.
{
"difficulty" : 646348.01400000
}
but in fact it's more less.
Can you fix this?

[Cryptoslave]

Where do you see this info (about btc38)? I think you are wrong, bro I sent coins from NovaExchange successfully after the block 585555. If btc38 would be on the wrong chain, then also N-E would be and that is not the case

They have not updated, they still link to 0.9.6.11 and their support team said they will update but it is not done yet.
See http://www.btc38.com/download/download_wallet/27.html and there is no news about 0.9.6.12 update.

....

Now BTC38 are on the correct chain

[Cryptoslave]

Pool: http://ypool.ga/anc

Thank you I added your pool to the list of pool on first post

[Cryptoslave]

Dev, it's something wrong with difficulty.
{
"difficulty" : 646348.01400000
}
but in fact it's more less.
Can you fix this?

The difficulty is around this number, this is correct. You can check the current difficulty at ypool.ga/anc

[cryptofarmer]

Anoncoin added to
www.mining-dutch.nl

Diff: 8192       | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3356   
Vardiff           | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3456   
Diff: 16382     | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3556

Also active on our Multiport

Happy mining.

[ysell]

Hi Cryptoslave

You're welcome to put the tutorial on how to set up a Flash drive USB wallet on the Wiki.  Please take, improve and modify as you wish. http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/

[Cryptoslave]

Hey, someone please explain what's going on

BTC38:

Me: Hi, I cannot generate my ANC address at the moment
service staff 小欣: Hello, due to block network reasons. Suspend transfer, technology is fixed, the inconvenience to you, I'm very sorry!

Me: You stop trading ANC?
service staff 夏天: Not us, this is the ANC's official.We are in contact with the ANC's official processing

What the heck does this mean?

Well I do not know what they are talking about. What I know is that I or any one from dev team have no contact with them in any manner since more than six months. They do not answer ten email I sent and contact@anoncoin.net did not receive any email from them since the last hardfork at block 555555!

Here http://www.btc38.com/download/download_wallet/27.html we see they are using the new version. They shall be able to create new address unless they change something 'technology is fixed' and maybe are synchronizing?? Well I think best is to wait a few days until they finish what they are doing.

[Cryptoslave]

Hi Cryptoslave

You're welcome to put the tutorial on how to set up a Flash drive USB wallet on the Wiki.  Please take, improve and modify as you wish. http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/

Thank you for your work 

[alacast]

For those looking to buy a lot cheap:
3069 ANC to be bought @ 0.00025 BTC on ExchangeD

-ExchangeD trhough TOR:
http://i2pexb2jcflvix52.onion/en/trade/btc_anc_360

-ExchangeD through i2p:
http://exchanged.i2p

[PAMPT]

Hey, someone please explain what's going on

BTC38:

Me: Hi, I cannot generate my ANC address at the moment
service staff 小欣: Hello, due to block network reasons. Suspend transfer, technology is fixed, the inconvenience to you, I'm very sorry!

Me: You stop trading ANC?
service staff 夏天: Not us, this is the ANC's official.We are in contact with the ANC's official processing

What the heck does this mean?

Well I do not know what they are talking about. What I know is that I or any one from dev team have no contact with them in any manner since more than six months. They do not answer ten email I sent and contact@anoncoin.net did not receive any email from them since the last hardfork at block 555555!

Here http://www.btc38.com/download/download_wallet/27.html we see they are using the new version. They shall be able to create new address unless they change something 'technology is fixed' and maybe are synchronizing?? Well I think best is to wait a few days until they finish what they are doing.

The story continues:

Me: Hi again! I don't really understand now. Which version of the wallet have you been using lately? Is it v0.9.6.12 or have you used an older wallet since the hardfork at block 585555? NovaExchange works
service staff 小欣: Hello, has replaced the latest version,http://www.btc38.com/download/download_wallet/27.html， please check, thank you for your support, I wish you a happy life!

Me: Ok. So when can you generate a new ANC deposit address for me? Thanks in advance.
service staff 夏天: Sorry, ANC wallet can't sync, so can't handle.

All I can gather from this post is that they wish u happy life. Time to move on now.

[cryptofarmer]

Anoncoin added to
www.mining-dutch.nl

Diff: 8192       | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3356   
Vardiff           | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3456   
Diff: 16382     | stratum+tcp://mining-dutch.nl:3556

Also active on our Multiport

Happy mining.

[ysell]

Re: Wiki needs updating. I know you're all busy working on core development, but it would benefit those new to Anoncoin if they were able to check to ensure that they were on the correct build. Recent posts state the change to 0.9.6.12,  yet the Wiki has not been updated since May. This would save Cryptoslave the job of replying to questions about build version.

[Cryptoslave]

Re: Wiki needs updating. I know you're all busy working on core development, but it would benefit those new to Anoncoin if they were able to check to ensure that they were on the correct build. Recent posts state the change to 0.9.6.12,  yet the Wiki has not been updated since May. This would save Cryptoslave the job of replying to questions about build version.

It is done, please tell me if you found other inapropriate occurence of 0.9.6.11.

Also I added the recent result of the 11000 blocks mined with the new PID after block 585555. 

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/GroundRod_PID_main_ver2

[Cryptoslave]

ANCI2Pd Portable - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle


Anoncoin Core & PurpleI2P present:

ANCI2Pd Portable v 1.0.12.0 - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle

The first stand-alone cryptocurrency and C++ I2Pd router bundle!

Easy to install, easy to use, completely anonymous by IP obfuscation!

Special thanks to Orignal, R4SAS, Omen and all contributors from i2pd team and irc2p ru channel

Enjoy!

To install, just execute the self-extracting file, go in the chose folder and then execute StartANCI2PdPortable.exe



Windows version (32 bits) only: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.12.0

[Tyke]

Please could supporters of Anoncoin help Crypto Books finish this book:




BTC:     1CRLy4xUZbh9rj2GPANiNNBZGZKRKLYYwJ
ANC:     AVBqJ36mws98Y1bLBz43V6UiL2i9bFZvi4

[Tyke]

Anoncoin first year history book monthly chapters June 2013 to April 2014 are complete.  This equates to 72 pages of content.  Crypto Books plan to publish the book before Christmas. 

Other books in progress include Diamond, Mooncoin, Sativacoin and Monero...

[ysell]

Very excited about the integration of the wallet and i2p together,  plus the awesome portability, making it useful for cold storage too. Could someone update the Wikihttps://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_install_Anoncoin so that Windows users can be setup and ready to go without having to tweak using older how to's.  Sorry if you're already doing this. 

Is there a possibility this will be integrated into the future Linux builds?

I know you're all busy as you've just delivered this gem, but is there a possibility the development schedule wiki could be updated as I know you've done loads but it is not showing on the Wiki.

[ysell]

Just noticed that the value of Anoncoin plummeted after the introduction of the big update. Is there any link to this, any thoughts on if competition is trying to manipulate the  values by dumping loads of ANC on the cheap. I don't really care about the current value, but was interested to get your take on it?

[Cryptoslave]

Just noticed that the value of Anoncoin plummeted after the introduction of the big update. Is there any link to this, any thoughts on if competition is trying to manipulate the  values by dumping loads of ANC on the cheap. I don't really care about the current value, but was interested to get your take on it?

Hi,

Thank you for your appreciation of our new i2pd-anoncoin portable bundle: anci2pd

I think what happened is due to BTC38 closing anoncoin/CNY market without any warning. Then https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/anoncoin/#markets is showing the small volume at novaexchange at much lower price as the new marketprice.

BTC38 recently closed the ANC/CNY market with no warning! But ANC/BTC is still open at BTC38!

http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=anc

[Cryptoslave]

What's happening to ANC? Cost only $0,01.  

BTC38 removed the ANC/CNY market because they somehow cannot accept ANC deposit, only withdrawal. The ANC/BTC market there is not tracked by coinmarketcap.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/anoncoin/#markets

The value of ANC is thus indicated on the 3$ volume per day trade of ANC at 0.01 USD on novaexchange.

We have to wait BTC38 can getnewaddress.

[ysell]

Is there a development Wiki somewhere else that has all the updates? I have checked the Wiki loads. I know that you lot have released updates that are not showing as being done. I know the focus is on development but it would be great to see what you guys are doing. Cheap Anoncoin lol. I tried buying some Anoncoin this cheap. Looks like no one's selling big amounts. Volume is really low as it seems sellers are not rushing to sell. It's taught me a lesson to check volume along with price before I get too excited.

[phatkiller]

I got wallet to compile and sync 100%   on my Linux Debian box not sure what issues the exchanges are having but syncing...i dont think thats it

Followed these instrucitons got i2p setup: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_your_Anoncoin_wallet#Setting_up_your_client_to_use_I2P_.289.6.9.29

Running in mixed mode i have 14 connections on clearnet but 0 on i2p

[ysell]

Sounds like you haven't setup the anoncoin.conf file up properly. Have you entered your RPC username and password, then setup anoncoin to run on i2p by changing the setting from 0 to 1?

[ysell]

Check out my how to for a step by step http://www.docomputing.co.uk/install-anoncoin-and-i2p/

[Tyke]

Anoncoin first year history book monthly chapters June 2013 to April 2014 are complete.  This equates to 72 pages of content.  Crypto Books plan to publish the book before Christmas. 

Other books in progress include Diamond, Mooncoin, Sativacoin and Monero...

Due to the lack of interest from the Anoncoin community, Crypto Books has postponed the publication of the book indefinitely.  Sorry for any disappointment caused.

[ysell]

Anoncoin first year history book monthly chapters June 2013 to April 2014 are complete.  This equates to 72 pages of content.  Crypto Books plan to publish the book before Christmas. 

Other books in progress include Diamond, Mooncoin, Sativacoin and Monero...

Due to the lack of interest from the Anoncoin community, Crypto Books has postponed the publication of the book indefinitely.  Sorry for any disappointment caused.

[p]
As someone new to the Anoncoin community I have no interest in the history of the cryptocurrency, there are already so many books published on this. This is not to say that  your research holds no value. Quite the opposite. You have been following Anoncoin, so can therefore see  where it is going better than most people new to the community. It is definitely a technology that, once developed with zerocoin integration will change the private cryptocurrency landscape. Things change so quickly, I personally don't want or care to know each previous upgrade or enhancement that led to the current software. It's like releasing a book about the  history of Windows. From Windows 3.0, to now. There maybe some interest, but people want to work in the now or look forward to the future, not the past. Why not write a book about the future enhancements and what it could mean for everyone. I'm just thinking that this would be way more original, interesting and authentic than copying content from the forums  and Wiki's or narrating the process. I'm sorry to hear you have given up on this book. Why don't you reconsider this and develop the book into something  that maintains your enthusiasm. Hopefully you stay part of the community and support it. Good luck

[ysell]

What's happening to ANC? Cost only $0,01.  

BTC38 removed the ANC/CNY market because they somehow cannot accept ANC deposit, only withdrawal. The ANC/BTC market there is not tracked by coinmarketcap.

Is there any news on this? Nothing has changed.

I'm just looking at the cryptocurrency market and really like what Dash is doing. Dash’s in-built governance and funding system allows projects to be proposed and voted on by the community, and if approved, paid for directly from the blockchain. This encourages development and motivates interest from developers.

What's great about Anoncoin is that it is still in a beta stage and has more room for taking on dynamic changes than highly established ("too many chefs" cryptocurrency). The critical zerocoin element of the Anoncoin would bring substantially more interest if it were fully implemented as it would be the only true private, bitcoin based cryptocurrency on the market.

The  implementation of zerocoin would be more prompt if there were more developers testing and developing. I'm noticing this with all cryptocurrency at the moment. There seems to be a lull in development. I see this as an opportunity to be innovative in the business model to future proof development. The business model of taking out development money in the infancy of a coin is doomed for a brick wall as it leaves limited incentive to pursue further development once the funding ceases. Please evaluate the business model to intice some great developers that are pondering over where they should invest their time.

[HPt]

Hi,
I just want to remark that, despite ZCash, there still might be a gap in the market of privacy oriented crypto currencies that potentially could be filled by AnonCoin, if it came off with a Zerocoin implementation similar to ZCash. In ZCash, z-addresses are not obligatory and, worse, their use is more expensive than the ues of t-addresses. It might turn out that this circumstance will limit the anonymity of ZCash in practice. If anoncoin would only allow z-addresses it would have an advantage privacy-wise compared to ZCash.

[ysell]

Just checked Github and it looks like Meeh / Mikal
(Founder, Anoncoin Core Lead Developer) Is back doing some major development. This has made my weekend.

Edit: looks like the whole team is back from developing other stuff, not just Mikal. Noticed loads of changes to the Wiki toohttps://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team
Really looking forward to seeing what happens next.  

[Bitcoinguru99]

Btc38 seems to be working on the deposit reopen... once fixed, price at nova will surge

[ysell]

Cryptoslave could you let people know where they can find out what's going on with Anoncoin, not just the incremental deliverables on the development Wiki https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team, but who's doing what at any time. For Anoncoin enthusiasts like me who want to know what's going on and the technical challenges that are happening. I don't expect a run through every task that developers are working on, but a birds eye view of the sub processes occuring would be newsworthy. Is all the discussion happening on i2p?

[HPt]

Hi,
I just want to remark that, despite ZCash, there still might be a gap in the market of privacy oriented crypto currencies that potentially could be filled by AnonCoin, if it came off with a Zerocoin implementation similar to ZCash. In ZCash, z-addresses are not obligatory and, worse, their use is more expensive than the ues of t-addresses. It might turn out that this circumstance will limit the anonymity of ZCash in practice. If anoncoin would only allow z-addresses it would have an advantage privacy-wise compared to ZCash.

http://www.coindesk.com/hardly-anyone-is-using-zcashs-anonymity-features-but-we-couldnt-tell-if-they-were/
".. shielded address hold only a small percentage, roughly 0.8%, of Zcash value right now"

[ysell]

Looks like ANC is slowly facing it's death...

You could be right API. Cryptoslave are you around to deny  this. I was going to write some more articles and videos,  but if the cryptocurrency is not going anywhere I'll save my time. Is Meeh discussing further developments with you? Or was the last edit a one off?

[logictense]

Does ANC utilize ring signatures or any other techniques for obfuscating the transactions?

[ysell]

Does ANC utilize ring signatures or any other techniques for obfuscating the transactions?

Gnosis was in the process of implementing Zerocoin within Anoncoin. This would obfuscate transactions on the protocol level. I don't know if he's still working on this or not? At the moment it has great potential, but I'm starting to think it's a coin that will die unless it sorts it's business model out to get more active developers on the books.

[JerryWinski]

Does ANC utilize ring signatures or any other techniques for obfuscating the transactions?

Nope, it was born before ring signatures. It only uses Tor.

This would be a good candidate for zcash anonimity.. Since it is.. anon coin after all..

[cryptohunter]

sad they let it fold like this... was the first of it's kind. They dropped the ball and had no real devs that could compete.

Good name, good idea. Not enough strong coders/designers here.

[ysell]

Does ANC utilize ring signatures or any other techniques for obfuscating the transactions?

Nope, it was born before ring signatures. It only uses Tor.Incorrect

This would be a good candidate for zcash anonimity.. Since it is.. anon coin after all..Completely incorrect

If I see this coin surviving I will write an article comparing zcash with zcoin. Just to summarise, not even the scientists that created zcash believe it is a secure enough implementation of privacy based cryptocurrency. I've got videos of the academics saying so. Zcash website quotes these academics as being involved with the coin. Truthfully, they are only involved through inception (involvement in the white paper)  not development as the multi party initial parameters is condemned by them  as being an insecure implementation. Anoncoin is the only true bitcoin based private cryptocurrency with i2p and Zerocoin possibly on it's way. Sad to see it fall into the history books. This is the only cryptocurrency I was genuinely excited about.

[Cryptoslave]

Cryptoslave could you let people know where they can find out what's going on with Anoncoin, not just the incremental deliverables on the development Wiki https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team, but who's doing what at any time. For Anoncoin enthusiasts like me who want to know what's going on and the technical challenges that are happening. I don't expect a run through every task that developers are working on, but a birds eye view of the sub processes occuring would be newsworthy. Is all the discussion happening on i2p?

Sorry for long time no news,

Yes you can check #anoncoin, #anoncoin-dev and #anci2pd on IRC2P, that is where dev team is.

Yep Meeh stepped back in as the lead dev, he did some commits (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/b0106dbc6ce59caebe23c98419a31aa632426321) recently and will do more regarding for instance merged mining with LTC. Indeed the halving occured two weeks ago and now a block reward is 1.25 ANC per 3 min, leaving very few ANC to get mined! Thus to increase overall hashrate merge mining is discussed by meeh to be implemented, we are deciding what to do about this point with Meeh, K1773R, orignal,... and the community if people want to! 

BTC38 does not answer to any request regarding allowing deposit back though, so we are promoting competent trading exchanges namely exchanged.i2p and novaexchange.

CS

[ysell]

Phew.  Thank you for the detailed answer. Glad to hear that some great developers are back.

It's great that you're concentrating on the technology rather than solely on adoption through BTC38. Adoption will come as Anoncoin completes it's zerocoin implementation. People will be rushing to Novaexchange & exchanged.i2p if these are the main places to exchange Anoncoin. This will inevitably broaden exchanged.i2p market scope if they are turning over most Anoncoin compared to exchanges like BTC38.  Exposure to better exchanges like exchanged.i2p will become more evident later. This all depends on Anoncoin's success in implementing Zerocoin,  but with developers returning to support this coin I am confident this will happen.

I'm going to move over to irc2p on the i2p network to get the latest tech info, rather than asking you to repeat it here. Thanks for the update. 

[ysell]

Hm!

Some activity there was 14 days ago is in Github... Meeh himself made some minimal changes... ä
If we could just get him back on the train.

I agree that changes to the software is irregular on Github, but if you look at the development change log Wiki,  they're quite big deliverables that need to be implemented. I2p integration with Anoncoin was a massive release in December. It would be great to see faster development, but that will only happen if more incentive is given to new developers out there, as I mentioned on a previous post. Developers are working, but efforts won't be evident unless you log onto i2p. To see the micro level tasks, log onto i2p and start using the irc2p to see what the likes of Meeh et al are up to, or to speak with them directly.

[ysell]

Cryptoslave is there any chance you could update this forum with latest developments or guide non i2p users on the small actions /tasks that are being carried out on a regular basis. If general public sees what's happening it will gauge more interest in the coin. Even a twitter account to follow or something else where it shows life in development. I appreciate that i2p is where you need to go for the day to day stuff, but If someone were to look at the forum they'd think that no development or interest exists. This may spur others to join as members and push this coin to new highs if they see how hard you guys are working on this. Thanks

[ToxicDartFrog]

I've been away from this coin for a while (don't think I've synced since the hardfork) and am trying to get my wallet up to date. I backed up my wallet.dat and installed the new ANC client but it kept crashing on start so reinstalled after deleting my roaming/anoncoin folder. It's working now but I can't seem to connect with the network. Anyone know of some nodes to add? Should I be going the I2P route instead? (I'd like to learn but for now I'm fine with clearnet just to get my wallet available again)

Also as a side note the anoncoin.net site keeps giving me a certificate expired error. The site is up but my browser doesn't like this!

Thanks

[ysell]

They desperately need to change the business model to encourage development in the privacy coin. At this point in time it would be great to either hardfork Anoncoin or developers reach out for others to take the lead. Alternatively if core developers were to build into the code some element of earning potential for development of this coin it may still  have a fighting chance. That's why any coin that pays out during infancy, but doesn't plan for long term incentives is doomed for failure. A group funded task could pay developers to release new functions. The community could bid on what project deserves the most incentive. This works well for Dash. It would be great to hear from the guys that built this coin. Really disappointed by the silence from these guys. It's getting to the point of no return

[BitcoinNational]

business model
-be about ANON
-let the others find *the perfect coderz*
 -ANON builds a circle around them

[ysell]

business model
-be about ANON
-let the others find *the perfect coderz*
 -ANON builds a circle around them

Can you explain what you mean. I can't make any sense from this?

[ysell]

Cryptoslave, Meeh et al, could you please confirm or deny that you have decided to dump this coin. If it is still alive, could you please let us know how we find out about activities as it seems there are none at the moment. Would you be considering posting activity updates via twitter?

[DanDan]

Cryptoslave, Meeh et al, could you please confirm or deny that you have decided to dump this coin. If it is still alive, could you please let us know how we find out about activities as it seems there are none at the moment. Would you be considering posting activity updates via twitter?

Just a few posts up he gives the places you can catch the dev team. If they're not reachable there then it would be safe to assume your backing a losing side. Twitter updates will be nice and easy to follow but if they're not updating the places they said they was then it looks like pissing in the wind backing these guys.

[huxdy]

I like this coin

[Instamined]

Perhaps this coin will rebound. Anoncoin isn't dead, just sleeping.

Anons are silently filling bags waiting on the 3.1 mil cap to be mined out before making their move .

[Extreme_one]

Is there an exchange that has ANC listed?

[huxdy]

Is there an exchange that has ANC listed?

http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=anc

[a7594li]

Is there no hope for Anon? I really like this coin, it was one of the first coins I've ever had contact with in this world! No roadmaps, updates, goals? Would not ZERO technology be deployed? Or was it? The connection with i2p could be more objective, once out of curiosity I installed this wallet... The process is a bit annoying, it's a bit old, I would love to review AnonCoin at the top!

It can be bought and sold on this website ：btc38.com

they will opening CNY trading recently

[dragonares]

Is there no hope for Anon? I really like this coin, it was one of the first coins I've ever had contact with in this world! No roadmaps, updates, goals? Would not ZERO technology be deployed? Or was it? The connection with i2p could be more objective, once out of curiosity I installed this wallet... The process is a bit annoying, it's a bit old, I would love to review AnonCoin at the top!

Team is left, but you can trade in btc38.com.

[bitpotter]

Is there an exchange that has ANC listed?

https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ANC/ is a working one. Seems like you cannot deposit coins to btc38

Anoncoin is no longer fixed by dev, I think.

[phatkiller]

It can be bought and sold on this website ：btc38.com

they will opening CNY trading recently

Can you withdraw?

[ysell]

Is there no hope for Anon? I really like this coin, it was one of the first coins I've ever had contact with in this world! No roadmaps, updates, goals? Would not ZERO technology be deployed? Or was it? The connection with i2p could be more objective, once out of curiosity I installed this wallet... The process is a bit annoying, it's a bit old, I would love to review AnonCoin at the top!

My main reason for liking Anoncoin was it's path to privacy. I didn't like what banks were doing and that this control of the money supply would eventually devalue money as we know it today. I've come to recognise that coins like Anoncoin are a catastrophic money, that will lead to an end in tax generation.  We need a transparent system, to collect taxes, so that we have a socialist supportive infrastructure that supports everyone, from education to healthcare, like our NHS in the United Kingdom. Tax havens are destroying the capitalist system here as we have a two tier economy where multi nationals can siphon off profits and not pay their taxes whereas everyone else has to pay and compete with these tax avoiding corporations. With Jeremy Corbyn likely to win (he's like Bernie Sanders) we may have a chance at balancing the economy so everyone pays their way. With a coin like Anoncoin, we may end up with the scales tipping in favour of an unfair system where those using Anoncoin get away with not supporting the infrastructure that they use. Just coming at this from a different perspective. I know Anoncoin would be used to buy illicit goods too, but if it were to build up usage for average purchases, you would see public services collapse. Therefore, although Anoncoin was exciting as a zerocoin technology. I no longer wish this coin to prosper. This is not what I want the world to look like. A USA based capitalist system where if you're poor, you get little medical support, and education is a joke. I don't want this.   Although I may be completely wrong on my new Anoncoin perspective, I feel that Anoncoin being dumped, just maybe what's best for society.

[gostrol]

Big Anoncoin pump on BTC38! with lots of volume! Anything new?

https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/236448ancbtc38.png

One ANC is 0.41$ now

But somehow Novaexchange keeps lagging with low volume... Why is it so 

[phatkiller]

Big Anoncoin pump on BTC38! with lots of volume! Anything new?



One ANC is 0.41$ now

But somehow Novaexchange keeps lagging with low volume... Why is it so 

but Can you withdraw?

[K1773R]

Is there an exchange that has ANC listed?

https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ANC/ is a working one. Seems like you cannot deposit coins to btc38

Anoncoin is no longer fixed by dev, I think.

it is getting fixes and being maintained:)

[33Bit]

Big Anoncoin pump on BTC38! with lots of volume! Anything new?



One ANC is 0.41$ now

But somehow Novaexchange keeps lagging with low volume... Why is it so 

but Can you withdraw?

Yes, you can withdraw

[ttookk]

Big Anoncoin pump on BTC38! with lots of volume! Anything new?



One ANC is 0.41$ now

But somehow Novaexchange keeps lagging with low volume... Why is it so 

but Can you withdraw?

Yes, you can withdraw

I'm confused. It seems to be 0.000048 on novaexchange, to 0.00015, it's around 1 BTC. If it's 0.0002 on btc38, why isn't nobody throwing that one BTC at novaexchange, to sell it at btc38? There are buys down to 0.0002, which support at least 0.5 BTC. I didn't do the math, but isn't there someone greedy enough to get that, what, 0.1-0.2 BTC? What am I missing?

[X68N]

pssst dude please delete your last post, dont wake sleeping dogs.
its not a good idea to spread the info about a good arbitage window since it will ruin your own opprtunity to
make profit.

Also Novamarket is fragile , you must buy slow and be patient to not pump the price. (to not ruin the opportunity)

BTC38 deposit is halted at the moment. So you cant sell at BTC38.

[ttookk]

pssst dude please delete your last post, dont wake sleeping dogs.
its not a good idea to spread the info about a good arbitage window since it will ruin your own opprtunity to
make profit.

Also Novamarket is fragile , you must buy slow and be patient to not pump the price. (to not ruin the opportunity)

BTC38 deposit is halted at the moment. So you cant sell at BTC38.

Meh. If you want to get in on the action, go ahead. I don't like registering at smaller exchanges, so I'll steer clear from this one. Although, I kinda like the look of Anoncoins chart: flatlining, latest commit in the github 5 days ago, so not completely dead… Pump, anyone?

[X68N]

i am already working on it since 2 days but volume is low, and to keep it low the experienced trader knows: patience is the key.
The gap between Buyers and Sellers should not become to large.

Also cool is bots providing round a clock action.

But beside that NovaExchange has screwed people (the old got hacked story) so its kind of medium-low trustworthy.
It works at the Moment but if shit hits the fan dont have more coins there you cant afford to loose without crying .

I practive fractional transfers to keep the exposure risk small (max 5-7% of my coins at the Exchange if the amount becomes larger i withdraw until i get to the 7% max point again)

[X68N]

by the way does someone experience how to open the i2p exchange?

[K1773R]

For those who dont use a recent build of master, please set this in your conf file:

Code:

spendzeroconfchange=0

There is a bug where your txs can get stuck due to double spending of unconfirmed change. On git master its already disabled per default, on older versions its unfortunately enabled by default.

[Cryptoslave]

For those who dont use a recent build of master, please set this in your conf file:

Code:

spendzeroconfchange=0

There is a bug where your txs can get stuck due to double spending of unconfirmed change. On git master its already disabled per default, on older versions its unfortunately enabled by default.

Is this the problem that most of the exchanges have faced? What about btc38, could it fix their problem too?

No, cryptsy was a scam, bittrex used the old 8.5.6 version, vircurex also a scam, cex.io removed all alts, bleutrade were not competent back then, and BTC38 at some point became really incompetent too.

BTC38 was great for two years, they were prompt to update and replied, although in bad english, to our emails. Now BTC38 does not reply to any email since more than 6 months, they were very slow to update to the new wallet and they somehow have some issue their incompetency disallow them to solve regarding their wallet. Their issue may be anything but we do not know. We tried to reach them several times to not avail. Despite all their lies saying they try to reach us it is not true. So we do not know what problem they have. The fact is deposits are problematic, and AFAIK, but I may be wrong and I did not try, withdrawals are OK apparently (but somebody shall try it and report back here).

As far as I am concerned BTC38 shall be avoided, in favor to:

novaexchange and

exchangeD.i2p

Exchanged.i2p is also available through tor as seen on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092682.220

Also there are great buy opportunities on Novaexchange with regard to price at BTC38 so new investors will get more ANC for the same amount of BTC trading on Nova

I will personally contact yobit to get us listed there, but if many of us ask yobit, it will be best to eventually have anoncoin listed there. Interested users can help by asking yobit to add Anoncoin too!

CS

[X68N]

one thing i dont understand is,

when i use the "portable i2p anoncoin version" which has a i2p router why cant i open the i2p adress?

or do i have to config the browser or do i have to install another i2p package?

[ysell]

one thing i dont understand is,

when i use the "portable i2p anoncoin version" which has a i2p router why cant i open the i2p adress?

or do i have to config the browser or do i have to install another i2p package?

Go to

Firefox > Options > Advanced > Network > Settings

Manual Proxy Configuration > Host IP address:  (Enter) 127.0.0.1

Port: 4444

 

If you want to resort back to a speedier non proxy service, then just follow the Firefox options above and enable No Proxy

[machico]

Just bought more Anoncoins via Nova Exchange.

Cryptoslave - Is there anything that the community can do to help save/maintain this project on the right path to success?

[X68N]

damn i have seen it comming a unexperieneced market participant drives the price to the sky. You have to learn the rules of supply and demand.
If there is small liquidity (like on Nova) and you buy relative large amounts, the price will go up.
This is bad for you as a buyer since you want to buy cheap, so patience is the key.
If you dont make a profit and bag hold then continue xD.

Nova is the only Exchange where you can sell. Dont be fooled by the high price of BTC38. They have halted deposits and are
too incompeted to fix their wallet (they say they wait for the developer, and the deveolper on the other hand already contacted them
many times. So they will not fix it in the future, they just wait.) This means no supply on BTC38 only Buyers which can withdraw,
this drives the price up which produces a distorted price.

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@ ysell thank you i will try it

[ysell]

damn i have seen it comming a unexperieneced market participant drives the price to the sky. You have to learn the rules of supply and demand.
If there is small liquidity (like on Nova) and you buy relative large amounts, the price will go up.
This is bad for you as a buyer since you want to buy cheap, so patience is the key.
If you dont make a profit and bag hold then continue xD.

Nova is the only Exchange where you can sell. Dont be fooled by the high price of BTC38. They have halted deposits and are
too incompeted to fix their wallet (they say they wait for the developer, and the deveolper on the other hand already contacted them
many times. So they will not fix it in the future, they just wait.) This means no supply on BTC38 only Buyers which can withdraw,
this drives the price up which produces a distorted price.

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@ ysell thank you i will try it

Glad I could help. I've just taken a gander at BTC38 and Novaexchange and it looks like the reason the price is so low on nova is that there is very limited turnover, of very low amounts on nova. I would suggest people would rather sell at the higher amount on BTC38 than tge lower on nova. I would suggest buying or selling any substantial amount on BTC38,unless you want to wait a long while for takers on the lower price on nova

[Entei]

What explains this sudden high of AnonCoin? How interesting, will I be watching, any news?

[machico]

X68N - I am happy to buy up to 0.00009999 and I have been trading other coins successfully. Not on Nova because of what you said, liquidity issues. I actually paid up 0.00007000 and I am happy with my buy because I have no interest in selling. If the price drops, I will buy more with my profits from Bittrex and Cryptopia.

[ysell]

damn i have seen it comming a unexperieneced market participant drives the price to the sky. You have to learn the rules of supply and demand.
If there is small liquidity (like on Nova) and you buy relative large amounts, the price will go up.
This is bad for you as a buyer since you want to buy cheap, so patience is the key.
If you dont make a profit and bag hold then continue xD.

Nova is the only Exchange where you can sell. Dont be fooled by the high price of BTC38. They have halted deposits and are
too incompeted to fix their wallet (they say they wait for the developer, and the deveolper on the other hand already contacted them
many times. So they will not fix it in the future, they just wait.) This means no supply on BTC38 only Buyers which can withdraw,
this drives the price up which produces a distorted price.

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@ ysell thank you i will try it

Sorry, just properly read the last part of what you say and you're right about BTC38. Just read previous posts and their not playing ball for some reason. Looks like NovaExchange needs more sellers though, that will increase the liquidity. I think many are in it for the long haul rather than short profits, or are waiting till the price increases. I personally am in this for the longer term and don't care about fluctuations in price.

[X68N]

@ machico, 0,0001 as high is ok to buy i think too


@ ysell: i tried the proxy config at firefox, but i get the error the proxy is offline because this feature was not implemented yet xD
so i have to install i2p i guess?

[ysell]

@ machico, 0,0001 as high is ok to buy i think too


@ ysell: i tried the proxy config at firefox, but i get the error the proxy is offline because this feature was not implemented yet xD
so i have to install i2p i guess?

Yes. Source https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_install_and_use_I2P

[machico]

X68N - The coin I am trading at the moment is DGB because of the connection they have with Minecraft. Good volatility on Bittrex and Cryptopia and nice spread on Cryptopia. I have been making 15-20% profit per trade. It was a bit slow today but I think the volatility will continue for a while.

[X68N]

@ machico DGB on cryptopia has a gap of 100 sat. So you are waiting someone  sell to you on cryptopia?


@ ysell, i try that at the moment

[machico]

X68N - I know, that is the great thing about it, lol. People are matching up and down according to what happens on Bittrex. See the 5993.81704038 DGB order? That is mine! I started on Saturday trading with 500 DGB. Most of my holdings are in ETC, Zcash and Monero. Very good activity in those as well, but I am waiting a bit longer.

[ysell]

Cryptoslave could you let people know where they can find out what's going on with Anoncoin, not just the incremental deliverables on the development Wiki https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team, but who's doing what at any time. For Anoncoin enthusiasts like me who want to know what's going on and the technical challenges that are happening. I don't expect a run through every task that developers are working on, but a birds eye view of the sub processes occuring would be newsworthy. Is all the discussion happening on i2p?

Sorry for long time no news,

Yes you can check #anoncoin, #anoncoin-dev and #anci2pd on IRC2P, that is where dev team is.

Yep Meeh stepped back in as the lead dev, he did some commits (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/b0106dbc6ce59caebe23c98419a31aa632426321) recently and will do more regarding for instance merged mining with LTC. Indeed the halving occured two weeks ago and now a block reward is 1.25 ANC per 3 min, leaving very few ANC to get mined! Thus to increase overall hashrate merge mining is discussed by meeh to be implemented, we are deciding what to do about this point with Meeh, K1773R, orignal,... and the community if people want to!  

BTC38 does not answer to any request regarding allowing deposit back though, so we are promoting competent trading exchanges namely exchanged.i2p and novaexchange.

CS

Hi Cryptoslave
I'm trying to use IRC2p with no luck. When I go to 127.0.0.1:6668 I received the following error "this address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than web browsing. Firefox has cancelled the request for your protection". I have tried changing the port from 4444 to 6668 in firefox network settings to no avail.

[X68N]

@ machico ok but 5000 DGB are only 0.03 BTC, and it seems you reached the liquidity limit on cryptopia next order is at 525 sat with 0.03BTC depth.

ysell, i have trouble too with i2p-router with my firewall (cheap hardware routermodem), software firewall deactivated for the test,
but i2p says symetrical nat error.

 the portable-i2p-anoncoin has no problems to connect so why does i2p?

[machico]

X68N - It know and it was 0.041 BTC, but it is a bit of fun. Liquidity is a bit low on Cryptopia, but the spread is good to trade. Bittrex is a different game. Liquidity high and spread around 1% most of the time, which means the trading levels need to be tighter. I don't have limit orders there. I have been trading 50 points up and down.

[X68N]

ah man this is so fucked up , i tried now 4h (!) to get i2p-network running - no luck i tried it all:

-disabled softwarefirewall on the hardware router, did not help.
-enabled udpnp on the hardware router, did not help.
-enabled portforwarding all ports on the hardware router, did not help.
-added my external ip into the config, did not help.
-tried all possible combinations from standart to hidden mode, did not help.
- i read several how toos,FAQ and tutorials for trouble shooting, did not help.

it all boils dont to remove the hardware router to see if this works, but how unrealistic is that?
i mean every private DSL-user has a modem router which is usually from the ISP for free.
Its very strange, because Anoncoin-i2p-portable works instant, so i dont understand why the i2p-networkrouter cant connect.
it says cant reach ntp-servers, but i already forwarded port123 (and all other 65k).

i cant imagine no another point of failure that the hardware router, since its the only part between the pc and the internet (softwarefirewall deactivated) maybe the router is jerking me.

[ysell]

ah man this is so fucked up , i tried now 4h (!) to get i2p-network running - no luck i tried it all:

-disabled softwarefirewall on the hardware router, did not help.
-enabled udpnp on the hardware router, did not help.
-enabled portforwarding all ports on the hardware router, did not help.
-added my external ip into the config, did not help.
-tried all possible combinations from standart to hidden mode, did not help.
- i read several how toos,FAQ and tutorials for trouble shooting, did not help.

it all boils dont to remove the hardware router to see if this works, but how unrealistic is that?
i mean every private DSL-user has a modem router which is usually from the ISP for free.
Its very strange, because Anoncoin-i2p-portable works instant, so i dont understand why the i2p-networkrouter cant connect.
it says cant reach ntp-servers, but i already forwarded port123 (and all other 65k).

i cant imagine no another point of failure that the hardware router, since its the only part between the pc and the internet (softwarefirewall deactivated) maybe the router is jerking me.

What OS is the non portable version using?

[Cryptoslave]

Just bought more Anoncoins via Nova Exchange.

Cryptoslave - Is there anything that the community can do to help save/maintain this project on the right path to success?

Thank you to ask Machico.

I think the best right now would be we get listed on yobit. So I propose users ask yobit to add Anoncoin. https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/

To fill their form, please refer to our Anoncoin explorer hosted by K1773R: http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

You can see current money supply listed as outstanding for each block number

Code:

Block	   Approx. Time	Transactions	Value Out	Difficulty	Outstanding	Average Age	Chain Age	% CoinDD
675216	2017-05-26 19:59:51	1	1.25	        77.923	        2414975.612	612.28	        1454.06	34.2958% 

Right now at block 675216 we have 2414975.612 Anoncoin (total of 3.1 million in 100+ years)

For information, Russian friends are also building another i2p only exchange, it is very beta right now and looks like it will be more like shapeshift. There is only ANC/Gostcoin trading right now. Their i2p address is: http://n33uthzyqsbozl2qh5zii2bq2nnvbz6g6c4ew3mwp6uukk6u7wva.b32.i2p/

I am very happy our hard work on Anoncoin start to be appreciated. The reworked GrondRod PID diff algo works flawlessly since block 585555 and we have a lots of I2P peers now thanks to the I2P bundle. We will soon release new build for windows and new ANCi2pd including last i2pd version and last ANC master patched by K1773R.

Happy trading,

CS

[X68N]

ysell i use windows7 with the portable version.
Can you access the the tor service of the i2p exchange? i tried and asked but nobody responded yet.


@ Cryptoslave i am not sure if that the best way, since they offer a paid service it might be better to do a small crowdfunding 0,1btc.
Like i said i would add 0,01btc so wee need some more people willing to add some btc.
https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/
Since you are the master (even when you call yourself the CryptoSlave)  , i suggest we send the BTC to you and you fill in the tech detail.
What do you think?

[Cryptoslave]

ysell i use windows7 with the portable version.
Can you access the the tor service of the i2p exchange? i tried and asked but nobody responded yet.


@ Cryptoslave i am not sure if that the best way, since they offer a paid service it might be better to do a small crowdfunding 0,1btc.
Like i said i would add 0,01btc so wee need some more people willing to add some btc.
https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/
Since you are the master (even when you call yourself the CryptoSlave)  , i suggest we send the BTC to you and you fill in the tech detail.
What do you think?

OK we can do that and I will complete to 0.1 btc if ever the goal is not met. It is a reasonable price, some other exchanges ask 3 btc!!  

Yobit 24h volume was $14,879,052 or 6,537 BTC vs Novaexchange $198,322 or 87 BTC

Here is a btc address for this purpose only (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE

The first of June I will complete to 0.1 btc and ask them
 
Thank you all!

CS

[machico]

Which crowdfunding website should we use?

[machico]

CS - Are we free to use the Anonymous logo to market/publicise Anoncoin?

What about facebook and twitter?

[Cryptoslave]

Which crowdfunding website should we use?

Here is a btc address for this purpose only (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE

I was just thinking to use this address in my btc wallet, if you know any other method tell me...

[Cryptoslave]

CS - Are we free to use the Anonymous logo to market/publicise Anoncoin?

What about facebook and twitter?

Of course, the logo was done via a contest two year ago and is free to use

[machico]

I sent you a message with the info I need to put the request through. If you want the request to be put through ASAP, I will use your BTC address to pay for it.

In terms of the future for Anoncoin, I was thinking we could do a crowfunding on Kickstarter to help you with the tech side.

What about the anonymous group logo, can we also use that one? Moreover, are you in control of the twitter and facebook accounts? Can we start updating them?

[machico]

[machico]

Indiegogo seems to be the best place to maybe do the crowdfunding? Any thoughts?

[Cryptoslave]

Here is an example of what can be put in yobit form (https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/)

Listing Type: Free
Coin Name: Anoncoin
Ticker: ANC
Algo: Scrypt
Number of Blocks: 675250
Money Supply: 2415018.112
Min Commission: 0.0001
Block Time: 180 sec
Dev Language: C++
Type: POW
secp256k1 ver: New
Source link (Git): https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin
Explorer: http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin
Bitcointalk Topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481693.0

Comments/Additional Info (Example):
Launched on 2013-06-02 23:00:36 it is the only coin to feature I2P SAM connectivity (without using any proxy). It has contributed to the development of the first C++ I2P router (i2pd) which is a side project of two members of the dev team of Anoncoin. It is a privacy oriented altcoin with a cap of 3.1 million coins in total. See https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

check
http://octocoinfoundation.org/adding-to-exchanges
https://twitter.com/YobitExchange?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fyobit.net%2Ftwits%2F

[ysell]

I sent you a message with the info I need to put the request through. If you want the request to be put through ASAP, I will use your BTC address to pay for it.

In terms of the future for Anoncoin, I was thinking we could do a crowfunding on Kickstarter to help you with the tech side.

What about the anonymous group logo, can we also use that one? Moreover, are you in control of the twitter and facebook accounts? Can we start updating them?

Some great ideas machico 

[machico]

The request to add Anoncoin to https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/ has been done. I will wait for their reply.

[machico]

Ysell - If CS allows us to update twitter and facebook, do you want to focus on one and I will focus on the other?

[machico]

I have registered with Indiegogo and if we go ahead with the crowdfunding, we need to discuss the campaign including how much we want to raise.

 

[machico]

Have you guys noticed that the ANC volume on Nova has gone up including the price.

[Cryptoslave]

Ysell - If CS allows us to update twitter and facebook, do you want to focus on one and I will focus on the other?

Sadly, we never where in control of AnoncoinNews. Facebook I do not know who has it, probably meeh as I do not see K1773r on this thing at all.

[gostrol]

One hour ago I launched the windows bundle wallet of anoncoin and i2pd (ANCI2Pd Portable v 1.0.12.0) and now I have 18 peers with I2P only connections!!

https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/430002anci2p18.png

 

[X68N]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

[ysell]

Ysell - If CS allows us to update twitter and facebook, do you want to focus on one and I will focus on the other?

Just created the username @anoncoinzero . I will start updating in the next few weeks with updates and up and coming news from the irc2p chats. If someone else wants to take the torch and create other twitter usernames to create news content, please do. More news is good news

[machico]

Ysell - If CS allows us to update twitter and facebook, do you want to focus on one and I will focus on the other?

Just created the username @anoncoinzero . I will start updating in the next few weeks with updates and up and coming news from the irc2p chats. If someone else wants to take the torch and create other twitter usernames to create news content, please do. More news is good news

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

[machico]

I just raised a ticket with Yobit.

Dear Yobit,
I made a request to add Anoncoin (ANC) to Yobit today and by mistake I ticked the listing type as free instead of premium. Can you please change the listing type to premium and give me the instructions to make the payment.

Regards,

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

[X68N]

i have managed to get BTC38 to take my info (took me 6 days, to get to that point   xD ):

Daniel B：
Hello, i want to deposit ANC but it says its paused, when will the deposit work again?
best Regards (05-21 22:13)

service staff 小妮: Hello, I am sorry, the ANC's wallet is out of order and needs to be maintained by the ANC team.
(05-23 20:57)

Daniel B：
Hello, my question was how long do you estimate the maintainence time?
I noticed that over 50(%) of all coins have are in maintainence status (BTC and LTC too) is this because of the goverment?
(05-23 23:27)

service staff 可儿: Sorry, we are also very anxious, wallet BUG problem needs to be resolved after the official team to open, BTC and LTC according to the provisions of the Chinese state, the withdrawal needs of 7-15 days to send, please also understand!
(05-25 19:34)

Daniel B：i talked with the developer. He said there is no bug just update to the new version:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases
the fastest version is: ANCI2PdPortable.exe .Please update. thank you
(05-26 13:06)

service staff 小妮: Thank you for your information and have feedback to the relevant personnel
(05-27 12:46)

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i hope they really send that info to their tech stuff and dont just smalltalk. Let hop for the best

[machico]

i have managed to get BTC38 to take my info (took me 6 days, to get to that point   xD ):

Daniel B：
Hello, i want to deposit ANC but it says its paused, when will the deposit work again?
best Regards (05-21 22:13)

service staff 小妮: Hello, I am sorry, the ANC's wallet is out of order and needs to be maintained by the ANC team.
(05-23 20:57)

Daniel B：
Hello, my question was how long do you estimate the maintainence time?
I noticed that over 50(%) of all coins have are in maintainence status (BTC and LTC too) is this because of the goverment?
(05-23 23:27)

service staff 可儿: Sorry, we are also very anxious, wallet BUG problem needs to be resolved after the official team to open, BTC and LTC according to the provisions of the Chinese state, the withdrawal needs of 7-15 days to send, please also understand!
(05-25 19:34)

Daniel B：i talked with the developer. He said there is no bug just update to the new version:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases
the fastest version is: ANCI2PdPortable.exe .Please update. thank you
(05-26 13:06)

service staff 小妮: Thank you for your information and have feedback to the relevant personnel
(05-27 12:46)

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i hope they really send that info to their tech stuff and dont just smalltalk. Let hop for the best

X68N - I would be careful mate with that exchange. I am keeping my ANC's in the wallet for now. Other coins, I will trade and mine.

I received a reply from Yobit asking me re-send the request to list ANC.

CS - You need to send the 0.1 BTC to my Yobit account so I can create the yobitcode.

Send it to: 19qMgtC68B5g4wYNFcDjzfAowBxHsDWEDh

[machico]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

[machico]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

[machico]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded?

Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin.

[machico]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded?

Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin.

Great! That means if we can get some funding, the developers will help us.

I personally think we should try one single crowdfunding for all three stages of development. Obviously we need to outline all three stages in the proposal and at what stage Anoncoin is at the moment. The first think we need to calculate is the final cost for all three stages. Moreover, if we are successful with the crowdfunding, we need to have a long term plan to generate some revenue to pay the continuous configuration.

Did they say how much they would charge for all three stages and how long it would take? Lets start PMing after others have given their opinion.  



  

[machico]

Here is the guide for https://www.indiegogo.com

https://files.indiegogo.com/hubfs/Assets/IGG-Campaigner-Field-Guide.pdf

[HPt]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded?

Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin.

Hi ysell, machico, and others,
as an anoncoin holder I appreciate your efforts. But I wonder:
a) how do you intend to incentivize the crowdfunders to spend money on this project. I mean, there are no anoncoins available that could be distributed to them in return for the money they provide (like in an ICO).
b) to my understanding, most of the Anoncoin developers are anonymous and intend to stay so. How would you make sure that they don't take the money and then simply disappear. (If I remember right, it happened before that Anoncoin was pumped by announcing Zerocoin and then the responsible developer suddenly never was seen again.)
c) most of the Anoncoin developers probably hold a considerable stack of Anoncoin. Given that currently there's no real anonymous currency (most ZEC transactions use t-addresses, most Monero transactions turned out to be linkable), they could make a killing by implementing Zerocoin. So, the financial incentive is alread there. The fact that there's still no Zerocoin suggests that the developers simply are not able to implement it. For this reason, an additional financial incentive probably won't have much of an effect.

[ysell]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded?

Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin.

Hi ysell, machico, and others,
as an anoncoin holder I appreciate your efforts. But I wonder:
a) how do you intend to incentivize the crowdfunders to spend money on this project. I mean, there are no anoncoins available that could be distributed to them in return for the money they provide (like in an ICO).
b) to my understanding, most of the Anoncoin developers are anonymous and intend to stay so. How would you make sure that they don't take the money and then simply disappear. (If I remember right, it happened before that Anoncoin was pumped by announcing Zerocoin and then the responsible developer suddenly never was seen again.)
c) most of the Anoncoin developers probably hold a considerable stack of Anoncoin. Given that currently there's no real anonymous currency (most ZEC transactions use t-addresses, most Monero transactions turned out to be linkable), they could make a killing by implementing Zerocoin. So, the financial incentive is alread there. The fact that there's still no Zerocoin suggests that the developers simply are not able to implement it. For this reason, an additional financial incentive probably won't have much of an effect.

Gnosis is not around to finish zerocoin. The response on irc2p  was that the final stages of zerocoin will involve 2-3 developers. The problem seems to be;
*how do you check Zerocoin is complete without thorough testing
*who checks authenticity (I'm no developer)
*how do you fairly pay those developers contributing so that they are paid for their contributed efforts

Your questions
A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario
B) a bag and run would be prevented as the checks on authenticity of the zerocoin  would be carried out before payout. A delay on payout could be set after a set period of positive testing.
C) financial incentive for zerocoin is not as prevalent as you say as the Zerocoin element is crucial to it's increased value. Therefore new zerocoin developers would be required to increase value and they may not hold ANC. Thus The incentive to new developers of completing Zerocoin is the problem we wish to solve with crowd funding. This would lead to current holders ANC assets increasing in value, and miners incentivised to continue mining etc.

Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding.

[machico]

Ysell - Good job mate.

X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.

Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
 

Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico

It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we,  as investors want results.

I agree ysell.

CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward.

To developers
Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement.  It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts.

I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p.  Thanks

CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p.

Gnosis
lunokhod
Meeh
Ssuag

I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks

Do they use the same name?

Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded?

Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin.

Hi ysell, machico, and others,
as an anoncoin holder I appreciate your efforts. But I wonder:
a) how do you intend to incentivize the crowdfunders to spend money on this project. I mean, there are no anoncoins available that could be distributed to them in return for the money they provide (like in an ICO).
b) to my understanding, most of the Anoncoin developers are anonymous and intend to stay so. How would you make sure that they don't take the money and then simply disappear. (If I remember right, it happened before that Anoncoin was pumped by announcing Zerocoin and then the responsible developer suddenly never was seen again.)
c) most of the Anoncoin developers probably hold a considerable stack of Anoncoin. Given that currently there's no real anonymous currency (most ZEC transactions use t-addresses, most Monero transactions turned out to be linkable), they could make a killing by implementing Zerocoin. So, the financial incentive is alread there. The fact that there's still no Zerocoin suggests that the developers simply are not able to implement it. For this reason, an additional financial incentive probably won't have much of an effect.

Gnosis is not around to finish zerocoin. The response on irc2p  was that the final stages of zerocoin will involve 2-3 developers. The problem seems to be;
*how do you check Zerocoin is complete without thorough testing
*who checks authenticity (I'm no developer)
*how do you fairly pay those developers contributing so that they are paid for their contributed efforts

Your questions
A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario
B) a bag and run would be prevented as the checks on authenticity of the zerocoin  would be carried out before payout. A delay on payout could be set after a set period of positive testing.
C) financial incentive for zerocoin is not as prevalent as you say as the Zerocoin element is crucial to it's increased value. Therefore new zerocoin developers would be required to increase value and they may not hold ANC. Thus The incentive to new developers of completing Zerocoin is the problem we wish to solve with crowd funding. This would lead to current holders ANC assets increasing in value, and miners incentivised to continue mining etc.

Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding.

I think we could easily raise 500-1000 ANC and give 1 ANC per donation. In crowdfunding, one does give like for like in terms of value but as a gesture of gratitude.

CS - Could you please answer this question.

c) most of the Anoncoin developers probably hold a considerable stack of Anoncoin. Given that currently there's no real anonymous currency (most ZEC transactions use t-addresses, most Monero transactions turned out to be linkable), they could make a killing by implementing Zerocoin. So, the financial incentive is already there. The fact that there's still no Zerocoin suggests that the developers simply are not able to implement it. For this reason, an additional financial incentive probably won't have much of an effect.

[machico]

We really need to know how much it will cost to implement zerocoin. Without that, it will be difficult to plan a crowdfunding strategy including the 'thank you' gesture.

[ysell]

Can someone with some developer brains compare https://zcoin.io/get-zcoin/ implementation of zerocoin with ANC Anoncoin zerocoin work. It looks like the zerocoin content could be downloaded from github.com and added to the ANC to create a hardfork https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.

ANC has the added benefit of having and integrated i2p tunnel. With my limited coding knowledge I've just gone through a bit of code and it looks very similar to ANC. I can't be the only one to have seen this?  I'll get on irc2p and talk over the code. If this is the case, there is no need to crowdfund the zerocoin elements, but rather fund the integration of this existing zerocoin code into the ANC system. I'm struggling to see how it's much different than a cut and paste. Okay that's a bit exaggerated, but surely there must be a developer able to do this?

[machico]

Can someone with some developer brains compare https://zcoin.io/get-zcoin/ implementation of zerocoin with ANC Anoncoin zerocoin work. It looks like the zerocoin content could be downloaded from github.com and added to the ANC to create a hardfork https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.

ANC has the added benefit of having and integrated i2p tunnel. With my limited coding knowledge I've just gone through a bit of code and it looks very similar to ANC. I can't be the only one to have seen this?  I'll get on irc2p and talk over the code. If this is the case, there is no need to crowdfund the zerocoin elements, but rather fund the integration of this existing zerocoin code into the ANC system. I'm struggling to see how it's much different than a cut and paste. Okay that's a bit exaggerated, but surely there must be a developer able to do this?

I can add nothing here. I have no coding knowledge.

CS - What do you think?

[X68N]

i think from my pov as trader/investor that exchanges are cruicial for any coin.

ANC is the underdog in terms of the coinmakretcap but hasthe advantage that its more popular in Asia (BTC38) than the other crypto coins.
Since BTC38 is paused. The Tor exchange is dead too.(in the past we had 4-5 exchanges.The only exchanges left now are Nova for clearnet and the i2pexchangeD which is impossible to acces for me since my router is NAT (and many other non-tech users too). (curios fact: anoncoin-i2p works fine with NAT)

So we are 1 exchange away from mainstream extinction. Thats why i suggested to crowdfund for YoBit.

Anothe idea would be this @ CryptoSlave: Is it possible to add a inhouse exchange into the anoncoin client?
(this could be implemented with some sort of anon chat protocol i think. if yes how difficult would it be?)

[machico]

i think from my pov as trader/investor that exchanges are cruicial for any coin.

ANC is the underdog in terms of the coinmakretcap but hasthe advantage that its more popular in Asia (BTC38) than the other crypto coins.
Since BTC38 is paused. The Tor exchange is dead too.(in the past we had 4-5 exchanges.The only exchanges left now are Nova for clearnet and the i2pexchangeD which is impossible to acces for me since my router is NAT (and many other non-tech users too). (curios fact: anoncoin-i2p works fine with NAT)

So we are 1 exchange away from mainstream extinction. Thats why i suggested to crowdfund for YoBit.

Another idea would be this @ CryptoSlave: Is it possible to add a in-house exchange into the anoncoin client?
(this could be implemented with some sort of anon chat protocol i think. if yes how difficult would it be?)

X68N - I think we will get into yobit at some point. They have loads of crappy coins there compared to ANC.

In relation to ANC in general, we need a complete re-organisation for ANC to survive. We need a clear plan for the next 5 years including revenue streams for continuous development. Furthermore, your idea for an exchange initially to trade ANC vs BTC, LTC, Zcash, Monero, ETH, ETC, Dash, etc, is a great idea. That could be the revenue stream ANC needs. We could create a second crowdfunding proposal for a Cryptocurrency exchange whereby we could give some equity to the donors and use it to support ANC. Ysell & CS, what do you think about this idea?

[X68N]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

[machico]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

Good research. I think Digibyte does but CS is probably the best person to confirm that.

[ysell]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

I have used exchanged.i2p and thought it was pretty good. There are some improvements that could be made, but considering it's up and running already it would be great to continue using it. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to single out competitive currency as it removes portability for those interested in crossing over from inferior privacy tech like zcash.

Cryptoslave : I don't know if this has already been considered but could we possibly fork the zcoin project and bolt on the i2p infrastructure afterwards,  saving time trying to integrate zcoin code into existing Anoncoin code?

The fact that Meeh is still working on i2p integrations for other coins means he would be the man for this job. I tried to contact Meeh last night, but he wasn't around.

What do you think Cryptoslave?

[machico]

CS - Does anoncoin own the anonexchange.com domain?

[machico]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

I have used exchanged.i2p and thought it was pretty good. There are some improvements that could be made, but considering it's up and running already it would be great to continue using it. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to single out competitive currency as it removes portability for those interested in crossing over from inferior privacy tech like zcash.

Cryptoslave : I don't know if this has already been considered but could we possibly fork the zcoin project and bolt on the i2p infrastructure afterwards,  saving time trying to integrate zcoin code into existing Anoncoin code?

The fact that Meeh is still working on i2p integrations for other coins means he would be the man for this job. I tried to contact Meeh last night, but he wasn't around.

What do you think Cryptoslave?

Very interesting article. Bitcoin is now only 47% of the altcoin market.

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/chart-coin-universe-keeps-expanding/

[X68N]

my opinion is i did  like the altcoins from the start on more than BTC.
Today i dislike BTC even more than in the past because
- its slow af (i have 40 min transfertime)
- transfers can get stuck when you send with the wrong "fee/byte"-rate which is fucked up because the fee is flexible as i understand
  and if the fee is rising slowly your transaction will stuck, For me one needed ~20 hours! But it can get much worse see
  https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
- Bitcoin was propagated as alternative to the Banks with their high fees but now bitcoin fees become expensive themselves!
- Bitcoin as liberation from the Central Bank authority but these days bitcoin it self is not decentral but instead controled by a handful of  
   people  with the private keys to change the code.
- The Client needs 6-10 days to download and ~125GB Harddisk (Litecoin needs only 8GB even with a much faster Blocktime)
- only 4 connections on average (ANCi2p has 18 lol)

Overall its bulky and there are better coins aviable.
The only thing positive for me about BTC is the high price

Also 1 currency only  is unnatural, competition in the free market brings evoloution.

[ysell]

After all the Windows based issues in the news regarding hacking. A more secure Linux wallet would be ideal. I've created this tutorial in making a portable, wallet, with a flash drive bootable Linux OS. I've tested it thoroughly and see no issues with it. Please give me feedback http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/index.html

It's a super fast wallet, i2p and Operating system and the great thing is you can set it up as cold storage. Exposing your wallet to limited Internet time reduces the possibility of hacking. Going to ask the development team if they want to include my version on the Wiki.

Next job is to get zerocoin configured. Going to check over the existing zerocoin code in the next few weeks and see what can be done. If there's any developers not on irc2p that want to contribute, please get on irc2p and let the team know if you're available to contribute.

Machico, could you please give me your thoughts on crowd funding. I will ask the developers what they think a fair price for creating a zerocoin solution would be. I was thinking if the crowd funding  price was high enough, it would gain more interest, and possibly lead to greater PR, an attractive solution  for new developers etc. If we propose a complete zerocoin solution rather than broken down deliverables it may incourage a team of developers to get involved, work together and they can then divide the proceeds between themselves once a zerocoin solution has been established. What do you and X68N think?

[ysell]

Interesting... this thread has woken up and also cryptopia seems to be recovering in terms of volume and price

Meeh has done some amazing work on i2p recently and the encrypted Internet traffic is having negligible impact on performance. A year ago, the extra load was definitely noticeable. Now I'm continually checking to see if i2p is active because it's so fast. There is more interest in i2p cryptocurrency now as it is performing better. There are worldwide political and economic reasons why coins such as Anoncoin are becoming more saught after.

[Cryptoslave]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

[Cryptoslave]

(...)
Your questions
A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario
(...)

Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding.

Just to clarify, there was not a premine of 10% or anything on Anoncoin. At launch Meeh mined 1000 block (0.14% of a total of 3100000) before sharing the chain in public, for testing purpose, and he gave them back to the community via donation thread and faucet. I know it has a fact because he gave to me my first 150 ANC this way (100 on forum and 50 in I2P chat).

Premine: 1000 blocks (4200 ANC) that were returned to the community by community donations and a public faucet.  

Other than that there was absolutely no premine you can check the ANC source code on github.

[X68N]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

[AmoreJaz]

This coin was one of my first scrypt coins i mined . and i always loved it! like every coin it has seen its ups and downs but by god it is still here and doing pretty damn GOOD, The Devs job is not a easy one so a big" ANC BRAVO" to the Devs

P.S.  i was actively mining it already for a while before ANC  actually sponsored the mining pool Cryptotroll... for the nostalgia of things .... lol great memories!!!!

[machico]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies. 

[machico]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies.  

Can people interested in helping say so here.

http://zcash.flypool.org is pretty good and pays when one reaches 0.01 ZEC (0.00106789 BTC)

[Cryptoslave]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies.  

Can people interested in helping say so here.

http://zcash.flypool.org is pretty good and pays when one reaches 0.01 ZEC (0.00106789 BTC)

Good idea!

I do not own BTC myself neither, this is why I shall buy new ones before sending to yobit, hence the delay of a few days to get money.

Here is the Zec address yobit generated for my account: t1Zh5RmUrsW1HMTyf7bnkRNuEw6WcSpjpyG

Otherwise the btc address is still valid 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE

Thanks to all miners and donators!

As said, we never owned anoncoin twitter account, they were from community members, now they do not follow anoncoin anymore it seems. I have the @cryptoslave twitter account but not a lot of followers and I do not know how many are interested in Anoncoin or in my random tweets

[X68N]

and who is in charge for the website?

[kreatoralex]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

[ysell]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

Download the bootstrap file

Then download the bootsrap file to speed up the build of the blockchain

Follow instructions here

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_use_a_bootstrap_file_to_speed_up_initial_synchronization#For_Linux_users

Then after carrying out the above carry out the following

Go to download area where the bootstrap download is

Unzip it

Then copy the contents of the bootstrap folder to the ~/.Anoncoin directory 

[huxdy]

I'm glad to see that you are still trying to revive ANC. All my coins are in BTC38. If them open the recharge, I would like to donate 500ANC

[K1773R]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

you only use clearnet, your own fault!

[Cryptoslave]

I'm glad to see that you are still trying to revive ANC. All my coins are in BTC38. If them open the recharge, I would like to donate 500ANC

Hi,

so what is the situation there on BTC38? cannot you withdraw at least? I thought only deposit did not work

I am doing the yobit application now, with the help of 0.01 btc from donation. In about a week we will see if they add Anoncoin. Meanwhile exchanged.i2p is down for maintenance (Abyss told me he will be back up soon), a new i2p service like shapeshift is in process to be build, and Nova exchange is the only exchange right now.

Thank you for your donation proposal, we can discuss that when the crowdfund is set up by our fellow members.

CS

[machico]

Hi all,

I will start putting together some ideas and structure for the crowdfunding. Ysell was able to speak with some developers and was given $20k as a target. If we are trying to raise money this way, we need a fully costed project that will integrate zerocoin including a revenue stream to pay for continuous development. Suggestions on what we should target? We don't need to reach the objective to get what we have raised.

The first thing we need is for the community to donate some ANC's to give away to the crowdfunding donors as a thank you. If the crowdfunding doesn't go ahead, donations will be returned. CS, can you please co-ordinate ANC donations and then send it to the crowdfunding donors? I was thinking we could give 1 ANC as a gesture of gratitude per donation. Any suggestions?

Finally, we need ideas for making money after zerocoin has been fully integrated to pay for continuous development. The initial idea was to try a second crowdfunding for an exchange and give away some of the equity to donors. Ysell suggested we raise money via transaction fees which could also work as well. Any suggestions?

[machico]

Hi all,

I will start putting together some ideas and structure for the crowdfunding. Ysell was able to speak with some developers and was given $20k as a target. If we are trying to raise money this way, we need a fully costed project that will integrate zerocoin including a revenue stream to pay for continuous development. Suggestions on what we should target? We don't need to reach the objective to get what we have raised.

The first thing we need is for the community to donate some ANC's to give away to the crowdfunding donors as a thank you. If the crowdfunding doesn't go ahead, donations will be returned. CS, can you please co-ordinate ANC donations and then send it to the crowdfunding donors? I was thinking we could give 1 ANC as a gesture of gratitude per donation. Any suggestions?

Finally, we need ideas for making money after zerocoin has been fully integrated to pay for continuous development. The initial idea was to try a second crowdfunding for an exchange and give away some of the equity to donors. Ysell suggested we raise money via transaction fees which could also work as well. Any suggestions?

Perks/Thank you to crowdfunding donors

•   Consider your perk pricing strategy — offer a $25 perk and a $100 perk to incentivise donors with varying disposable incomes.

1 ANC for $25
5 ANC for $100

If we have 1000 ANC we can meet the suggested target of $20k. However, I still think we should target a higher number ($) but we need to have enough ANC's to the fulfil perks.

Suggestions?

[ysell]

Hi all,

I will start putting together some ideas and structure for the crowdfunding. Ysell was able to speak with some developers and was given $20k as a target. If we are trying to raise money this way, we need a fully costed project that will integrate zerocoin including a revenue stream to pay for continuous development. Suggestions on what we should target? We don't need to reach the objective to get what we have raised.

The first thing we need is for the community to donate some ANC's to give away to the crowdfunding donors as a thank you. If the crowdfunding doesn't go ahead, donations will be returned. CS, can you please co-ordinate ANC donations and then send it to the crowdfunding donors? I was thinking we could give 1 ANC as a gesture of gratitude per donation. Any suggestions?

Finally, we need ideas for making money after zerocoin has been fully integrated to pay for continuous development. The initial idea was to try a second crowdfunding for an exchange and give away some of the equity to donors. Ysell suggested we raise money via transaction fees which could also work as well. Any suggestions?

The financing looks good. My gut feeling  is that the  payout should be dynamic based on it's current FIAT value.

If you come up with a list of questions. We could have one set of questions for short term development strategy  i.e. Zerocoin implementation and one set of questions or suggestions for longer term projects such as, feasible financing /development.

I would suggest a short term strategy would be to encourage a regained interest in the project via your crowd funding proposal Machico. This would support the longer term strategy. With more developers on board, they  could work on  the longer term business model, the business model deliverables would be strengthened with extra crowd funding projects.

One such project could be to extend financing past the initial crowd funding stage. So it's self financing without a requirement for our intervention. We could make it automatic and democratic by getting a developer to set voting systems, so that future development can be prioritised based on stakeholders interests. And these project developers get paid when "n" stakeholders agree that the work is completed. This would boost the coin as developers increase the value of their ANC and they get a double whammy of being paid for the project they've undertaken.

As the ANC becomes more established on exchanges we could pay developers in ANC rather than in FIAT making the payment systems more integrated with the coin itself.

[X68N]

i have managed to get BTC38 to take my info (took me 6 days, to get to that point   xD ):

..................

service staff 可儿: Sorry, we are also very anxious, wallet BUG problem needs to be resolved after the official team to open, BTC and LTC according to the provisions of the Chinese state, the withdrawal needs of 7-15 days to send, please also understand!
(05-25 19:34)

Daniel B：i talked with the developer. He said there is no bug just update to the new version:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases
the fastest version is: ANCI2PdPortable.exe .Please update. thank you
(05-26 13:06)

service staff 小妮: Thank you for your information and have feedback to the relevant personnel
(05-27 12:46)

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i hope they really send that info to their tech stuff and dont just smalltalk. Let hop for the best

I am suprised they really hold on their word. Since yesterday ANC works on BTC38 again!
(i had to open another ticket yesterday since ANC seemed to accept deposits but their wallet was busy/hang, after that
2 hours later it finally worked)

if the onion-exchange goes online again we have 3 exchanges, and with Yobit (if succsessful) it would be 4.
A much better situation than with only Nova like in the last week. Novas price catched up to the BTC38 price now.


@ CryptoSlave is your Yobit-Fundraising BTC adress still active? i mean i would like to send you 0.03 btc because nobody else donated.
can you tell me how can i register to edit this site https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Exchanges , there is no register button and the site is 18 Months old. I want to update/cleanup some facts about the exchanges.

[X68N]

just click on deposit button and wait a minute or two. If it doesn show up click any other Deposit button to generate other adresses and then try ANC deposit button again and wait. if this doesn't help write a support ticket.
 

[Cryptoslave]

Can someone with some developer brains compare https://zcoin.io/get-zcoin/ implementation of zerocoin with ANC Anoncoin zerocoin work. It looks like the zerocoin content could be downloaded from github.com and added to the ANC to create a hardfork https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin.

ANC has the added benefit of having and integrated i2p tunnel. With my limited coding knowledge I've just gone through a bit of code and it looks very similar to ANC. I can't be the only one to have seen this?  I'll get on irc2p and talk over the code. If this is the case, there is no need to crowdfund the zerocoin elements, but rather fund the integration of this existing zerocoin code into the ANC system. I'm struggling to see how it's much different than a cut and paste. Okay that's a bit exaggerated, but surely there must be a developer able to do this?

The zcoin implementation of zerocoin is done using a trusted source for accumulator namely RSA-2048. The RSA-2048 number was created by RSA Laboratories in March 1991 to encourage research into computational number theory and the practical difficulty of factoring large integers. It was thus created by a company incorporated in USA and this company is thus to be trusted to not have kept the original two prime factors. Because we cannot trust this company to not have kept the factors, it is to be assumed this company or employees can forge fake zcoins at will, which can be done easily when the factor are known. Furthermore they badly coded their zerocoin implementation with a typo that allowed to reuse spent zerocoin. Zcoin by this way in February suffered a heist of  370000 zcoin worth about 2600000$ now.

The Anoncoin implementation of zerocoin aim to use RSA-UFO as trustless accumulators. In contrast, RSA-2048 or a multiparty computation both involve different degrees of trust. In a similar way that what happened with zcoin, if some entity known the prime factors they can then generate infinite amount of zerocoin with fake Zero knowledge proof.

Hoppefully, Sander gave a way to generate semiprime number with a certain degree of certainty in a trustless way using an algorithm. Those numbers are called RSA-UFO for generalised RSA moduli of Unknown complete Factorisation. It is important to note that this work by Sander is superior to secure multiparty computation protocols. Indeed, if MPC are employed during system setup colluding member could recover P and Q and thus the problem of someone who known the trapdoor also remain in the distributed setting. In contrast nobody know the complete factorisation of the RSA-UFO thus the problem of trapdoor is resolved with this setup for the accumulator.

Gnosis implemented a function that on startup all Anoncoin wallet software deterministically generates the same 16 raw UFOs using SHA-256 hashing of the numbers 0-15. This being done, people from the Anoncoin community brute forced those numbers for 75 days using the Elliptic Curve Method of factorization to remove the small factors up to 165 bits. If the RSA-UFO bit length after division by small factors is lower than 3456, the RSA-UFO was unfit for the security level we wanted because it would have been possible to use the General Number Field Sieve (GNFS) to factor it. It was shown by Monte-Carlo simulation that with this minimum number of 3456 bits the RSA-UFO was unfactorable with a certainty of 80%. By using 13 such RSA-UFO, and with only one of them needed to be secure, and the zerocoin having to be accumulated in all of them, the probability of all of them to be unsecure is 0.2^13=0.0000000008192 ~ 1 out of 1 billion.

So the procedure to generate the complete RSA UFOs is 1) create the 13 "raw" UFOs by hashing, and 2) divide out the small factors found in the UFO project. This is performed not only by the UFO clients and server, but also will be performed on startup by all Anoncoin wallet software. This is the trustless way to zerocoin we want to finalize in Anoncoin. In this way, the security will resist extremely powerful attackers able to remove factors by the Elliptic Curve Method (ECM) up to 768 bits and able to factor numbers up to 2048 bits using the Generalized Number Field Sieve (GNFS). This is far beyond what anybody is likely to be able to do for many decades.

To summarize, the difference between zerocoin-in-Anoncoin and zerocoin-in-Zcoin is that the latter is using a trusted accumulator. For Zcoin and Zcash, even using MPC, no amount of studying the source code will tell you if the master key was destroyed as it's supposed to be. Nobody can be sure. In contrast, studying the source of Anoncoin (and relevant papers on the crypto, and the RSA-UFO wiki page) enables people to verify that there are no backdoors. This is why Anoncoin aim for using such a trustless solution. This, combined with the only implementation of I2P-SAM in the wallet of all coin, development of the C++ i2p router i2pd with orignal, and cooperation with services such as exchanged.i2p lead us to be the best trustless anonymous coin on the market.

CS

[Cryptoslave]

I am suprised they really hold on their word. Since yesterday ANC works on BTC38 again!
(i had to open another ticket yesterday since ANC seemed to accept deposits but their wallet was busy/hang, after that
2 hours later it finally worked)

if the onion-exchange goes online again we have 3 exchanges, and with Yobit (if succsessful) it would be 4.
A much better situation than with only Nova like in the last week. Novas price catched up to the BTC38 price now.


@ CryptoSlave is your Yobit-Fundraising BTC adress still active? i mean i would like to send you 0.03 btc because nobody else donated.
can you tell me how can i register to edit this site https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Exchanges , there is no register button and the site is 18 Months old. I want to update/cleanup some facts about the exchanges.

For me BTC38 deposit still do not work, like they do not work neither with BTC, DGC, EAC, HLB, MEC, NCS, TAG, WDC, ZCC.

Yes, if you want to donate 0.03 btc to 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE you are welcome! Nonetheless as said I paid yobit already last week with 0.1 BTC, and we are waiting for approval (I have no more news). Thank you very much for your generosity!  

[ysell]

Just a headsup Yobit.net are a scam. Just tried to buy a few other coins to see what the deal was regarding ANC and Yobit.net: their response is, sorry we need to do maintenance in future. Your wallet is not working." Just did a search on other alt coins and it seems it would be the case on almost all alt coins. Beware anyone pushing you onto the Yobit.net site. Very dodgy

[X68N]

Hello, my friends,

sorry for the late responce i was busy the last days.

@cryptoslave
i had tried it after your post ANC works there, open a ticket @ BTC38 so they can fix that lag? on your account.

@ ysell i had no problems with yobit and their service in my case was fine, can you please explain in detail what the problem was
sind i did not understand it. (Coins you bought where vanished?)

[ysell]

Hello, my friends,

sorry for the late responce i was busy the last days.

@cryptoslave
i had tried it after your post ANC works there, open a ticket @ BTC38 so they can fix that lag? on your account.

@ ysell i had no problems with yobit and their service in my case was fine, can you please explain in detail what the problem was
sind i did not understand it. (Coins you bought where vanished?)

No you can buy coins, but cannot withdraw. So your coins are stuck on their exchange. They are using old wallets. Developers have tried to resolve the issue with Yobit.net to no avail.  Search for Yobit.net on bitcointalk.org and I'm not the only one

[X68N]

ysell which coin(s) on Yobit are you refering to?
i had withdrawed many different coins (LTC,BTC,ETH,DOGE,GLC,ZET,BLK)

[K1773R]

Could someone provide a block explorer for anc... the transaction a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e is not visible at anyone I have tested...

thats because said tx isnt in the blockchain.

[machico]

Hi all - This is just an update on the on the crowdfunding. I have been really busy lately with work but in a couple of weeks I will have more time to work on the proposal. At some point in the next month we will need to have enough ANC's to give donors as a thank you. Can people register here their willingness to donate  ANC for that purpose. Thank you.

[Cryptoslave]

Hi all - This is just an update on the on the crowdfunding. I have been really busy lately with work but in a couple of weeks I will have more time to work on the proposal. At some point in the next month we will need to have enough ANC's to give donors as a thank you. Can people register here their willingness to donate  ANC for that purpose. Thank you.

Sure I will personally provide 500 anc if there is a way to be sure the ANC are given to the donors. Hence, I am wondering what is your idea to match donors with donations?

CS

[machico]

Hi all - This is just an update on the on the crowdfunding. I have been really busy lately with work but in a couple of weeks I will have more time to work on the proposal. At some point in the next month we will need to have enough ANC's to give donors as a thank you. Can people register here their willingness to donate  ANC for that purpose. Thank you.

Sure I will personally provide 500 anc if there is a way to be sure the ANC are given to the donors. Hence, I am wondering what is your idea to match donors with donations?

CS

CS - I was actually thinking that you should keep the Anoncoins (as our accountant, lol) maybe in a separate wallet and then send them to donors when they provide a valid ANC address. In terms of the amount, it is a tough one but I was thinking like ysell suggested set amounts. For example x for a specific donation and y for a higher donation. The ANC's are as a thank you and not a reflection of what the donors are giving vs current value. Our initial target is $20k, but I think we should target a bit more and if we don't reach it, we will get what was raised regardless.

ANC is worth around $0.80. For example, 1 Anoncoin per $10 donation, 3 for $20, 8 for $50 and 20 for $100.  We will need around 3000-4000 ANC's = $20k - $30k. After Zerocoin is integrated, I am sure ANC will be worth more than $10.

Suggestions

[Cryptoslave]

I am happy to announce the release of the new version of ANCi2pd !

ANCI2Pd 1.0.13.0 - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle - 13 june 2017

The first stand-alone cryptocurrency and C++ I2Pd router bundle!

Featuring the latest version of Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 & i2pd 2.14.0



Windows version (32 bits) only: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.13.0

CS

[Cryptoslave]

CS - I was actually thinking that you should keep the Anoncoins (as our accountant, lol) maybe in a separate wallet and then send them to donors when they provide a valid ANC address. In terms of the amount, it is a tough one but I was thinking like ysell suggested set amounts. For example x for a specific donation and y for a higher donation. The ANC's are as a thank you and not a reflection of what the donors are giving vs current value. Our initial target is $20k, but I think we should target a bit more and if we don't reach it, we will get what was raised regardless.

ANC is worth around $0.80. For example, 1 Anoncoin per $10 donation, 3 for $20, 8 for $50 and 20 for $100.  We will need around 3000-4000 ANC's = $20k - $30k. After Zerocoin is integrated, I am sure ANC will be worth more than $10.

Suggestions

That is a good idea, but I do not know about crowdfunding and how the donors can prove they are the ones that crowdfunded such amount etc... well let us think about it and we will see soon.

Thanks

CS

[machico]

CS - I was actually thinking that you should keep the Anoncoins (as our accountant, lol) maybe in a separate wallet and then send them to donors when they provide a valid ANC address. In terms of the amount, it is a tough one but I was thinking like ysell suggested set amounts. For example x for a specific donation and y for a higher donation. The ANC's are as a thank you and not a reflection of what the donors are giving vs current value. Our initial target is $20k, but I think we should target a bit more and if we don't reach it, we will get what was raised regardless.

ANC is worth around $0.80. For example, 1 Anoncoin per $10 donation, 3 for $20, 8 for $50 and 20 for $100.  We will need around 3000-4000 ANC's = $20k - $30k. After Zerocoin is integrated, I am sure ANC will be worth more than $10.

Suggestions

That is a good idea, but I do not know about crowdfunding and how the donors can prove they are the ones that crowdfunded such amount etc... well let us think about it and we will see soon.

Thanks

CS

The Crowdfunding site (Indiegogo) will provide that information for individual donors. We will direct them to download the wallet and generate a receiving address.

[machico]

Anoncoin price just broke above 1usd. Nice to see a rally

I wonder when we will get to $1000. Maybe when we get zerocoin introduced and retailers accepting ANC as a currency? With only 3.1m ANC as plateau, scarcity is on our side.

I read somewhere that BTC are going to increase their plateau from 21m to a higher number to be agreed? Any comments on that?

[geekz]

Anoncoin price just broke above 1usd. Nice to see a rally

Which exchange do you check?
And how is everything? Been a really long time. 

[33Bit]

ExchangeD.I2P will be back up with I2P and tor trading on July 1

Very good news! Anc go to moon...


I read on topic.. There can buy anc with eur/usd and not need verification progress..

 First comlpetly anonimous exchange

[Cryptoslave]

Could someone provide a block explorer for anc... the transaction a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e is not visible at anyone I have tested...

thats because said tx isnt in the blockchain.

Could you elaborate this a little... the coins showed up after a while, but I cannot see the transaction in any of the block explorers... or is there one I could use?

This TX is in the blockchain, getrawtransaction a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e return the raw transaction normally. Decoderawtransaction shows many inputs like (not exhaustive):

Code:

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/2d50916ca99e7d3ed33a5e80a3e47b60181d6d7eb5b53fb6384480cda02d9964
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/d5da1f470339d8f80b17e49feb7e20f389c2b1093f82e9ca77c9b9046ffd6c65
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/1041940db6d66d9e90706425f085b88bf46acf2c5c05b0fe9d93a713c1a4bb78
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/5c3008ce6a3b80071c9f0f3d5f8589cf6969333199be51957150907e69cdaaa9


and two outputs:

vout" : [
{
"value" : 572.56977951,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 fa8a2f4de2339284aabc788739409ddb8b4a1f8a OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914fa8a2f4de2339284aabc788739409ddb8b4a1f8a88ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"Aecc7hisPra6vUriAJuQwhWb5EPbFKxo9y"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.01000048,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 10aa8eb61e19f659f4f0a637dfa61b95ff673236 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a91410aa8eb61e19f659f4f0a637dfa61b95ff67323688ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"AHHzn7E1jkkJN6DstA64mpXwY7819Eqye4"
]
}

So this TX IS in block chain

Ki773R block explorer is not on time is my explanation:

Anoncoin   ANC   681322   2017-06-09 07:28:49   2013-06-02   1477.83   2422608.112   626.807   34.2065%

Current is: ANC 686114 Monday June 19 14:30:46 2017

[K1773R]

Could someone provide a block explorer for anc... the transaction a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e is not visible at anyone I have tested...

thats because said tx isnt in the blockchain.

Could you elaborate this a little... the coins showed up after a while, but I cannot see the transaction in any of the block explorers... or is there one I could use?

This TX is in the blockchain, getrawtransaction a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e return the raw transaction normally. Decoderawtransaction shows many inputs like (not exhaustive):

Code:

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/2d50916ca99e7d3ed33a5e80a3e47b60181d6d7eb5b53fb6384480cda02d9964
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/d5da1f470339d8f80b17e49feb7e20f389c2b1093f82e9ca77c9b9046ffd6c65
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/1041940db6d66d9e90706425f085b88bf46acf2c5c05b0fe9d93a713c1a4bb78
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/5c3008ce6a3b80071c9f0f3d5f8589cf6969333199be51957150907e69cdaaa9


and two outputs:

vout" : [
{
"value" : 572.56977951,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 fa8a2f4de2339284aabc788739409ddb8b4a1f8a OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914fa8a2f4de2339284aabc788739409ddb8b4a1f8a88ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"Aecc7hisPra6vUriAJuQwhWb5EPbFKxo9y"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.01000048,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 10aa8eb61e19f659f4f0a637dfa61b95ff673236 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a91410aa8eb61e19f659f4f0a637dfa61b95ff67323688ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"AHHzn7E1jkkJN6DstA64mpXwY7819Eqye4"
]
}

So this TX IS in block chain

Ki773R block explorer is not on time is my explanation:

Anoncoin   ANC   681322   2017-06-09 07:28:49   2013-06-02   1477.83   2422608.112   626.807   34.2065%

Current is: ANC 686114 Monday June 19 14:30:46 2017

Okay... but I still don't understand why I cannot just use abe for searching that transaction:
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/search?q=a4b12669ec0d577a9ecdeadebb4986f2282dc3f469e28fd5615ccd26531b361e says not found

Abe detected a corrupt merkle tree in a block, hence it was stuck at block 681322. After rebuilding the chain and reloading from block ~600000 its working again.
I currently just have checks if its up or not, but not checks if its correctly synced. If you see its really out of date, send me a private message. It will decrase the time till its working again.

cheers

[carbonyl]

Hi,

Wow, price of anoncoin is steadily increasing, very happy to finally see some real action.

Whats the best exchange at the moment to buy anoncoin?

Best,
C=O

[machico]

Hi,

Wow, price of anoncoin is steadily increasing, very happy to finally see some real action.

Whats the best exchange at the moment to buy anoncoin?

Best,
C=O

Novaexchange is good if you like a large spread and you don't mind waiting for your order to be filled and it is usually lower than the real price. BTC38 has a lower spread and seems to be the exchange that reflects the true price of ANC.

[cryptogaga]

Apparently one of the major pools broke down, but hashrates coming back up, i wonder what will happen to previous transactions tho

[Cryptoslave]

Thanks for rebuilding. Just wondering, is abe very just very slow or is there a problem again. Since a transaction has been created, how long should one expect it to take before becoming visible?

Hi,

Multipools do not mine ANC TX, so there was a lot accumulating. So much that I had to take the old ASIC lying around and repair it, when I mined the first block I got 50 ANC of fees

Clearly multipools are stupids to not mine TX, I will left my ASIC mining on the network now that it is repaired. If others miners would come mining Anoncoin without using such multipools that dismiss TX this would be great.

https://twitter.com/Cryptoslave/status/877565559088525312

Generation: 1.25 + 49.125 total fees

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/block/3b0bd3600ff400144b2aa96d74cea0c5b6dfaff9d4ca4e0962d401a21205d198


Thank you to the users that put such high fees to miners! It is very much appreciated

CS

[cryptogaga]

Hi @Cryptoslave , thanks for all the good job you have been doing?, i rent miners to mine at pools how do you mean by multipools do not mine "ANC TX?" I want to be clear please is there any pool you can suggest that mine "ANC TX" as im making use of rented miners?

[flubba86]

I was mining in the hash-to-coins pool on ANC (turned off coin-hopping), but yesterday afternoon difficulty tanked and transactions got stuck. This morning I see h2c has disabled ANC mining in their pool. I'm guessing other pools have done the same. I've switched to solo-mining but my GPU only gives 17kh/s so I'm not contributing much. Kicking myself, if I switched to solo preemptively yesterday I could have landed the 50ANC fees.

[cryptogaga]

I also was mining at hashtocoins, after htc crash i quickly moved my miners to xpool.net but xpool has not paid me a single ANC even though on the blockchain it shows i was with the biggest hashrate and earning but xpool did not pay me for my work

[Cryptoslave]

I also was mining at hashtocoins, after htc crash i quickly moved my miners to xpool.net but xpool has not paid me a single ANC even though on the blockchain it shows i was with the biggest hashrate and earning but xpool did not pay me for my work

xpool had 1.5 GH hashrate the 21 June but only 100 MH the 22 June. They found a lot of blocks. If you configured your address correctly it shall work.

Nonetheless, people who have more than 100 MH/s of hashrate shall solo mine IMHO. It is very easy to setup and excellent for strengthening the Anoncoin network. Save this text into anoncoin.conf and place it in your %appdata%/anoncoin directory (or in /anoncoin/data for anci2pd). Change username and password to the same value than set on your asic. Uncomment #rpcallowip=192.168.0.0/24 and set it to you asic IP. Point your asic to this wallet IP address.

People with GPU shall not mine anoncoin, this is profitable only for SCRYPT asic, mine other altcoin (privacy focussed are zcash, monero).

[cryptogaga]

I also was mining at hashtocoins, after htc crash i quickly moved my miners to xpool.net but xpool has not paid me a single ANC even though on the blockchain it shows i was with the biggest hashrate and earning but xpool did not pay me for my work

xpool had 1.5 GH hashrate the 21 June but only 100 MH the 22 June. They found a lot of blocks. If you configured your address correctly it shall work.

Nonetheless, people who have more than 100 MH/s of hashrate shall solo mine IMHO. It is very easy to setup and excellent for strengthening the Anoncoin network. Save this text into anoncoin.conf and place it in your %appdata%/anoncoin directory (or in /anoncoin/data for anci2pd). Change username and password to the same value than set on your asic. Uncomment #rpcallowip=192.168.0.0/24 and set it to you asic IP. Point your asic to this wallet IP address.

People with GPU shall not mine anoncoin, this is profitable only for SCRYPT asic, mine other altcoin (privacy focussed are zcash, monero).

Yes, when i noticed Hastocoins crashed i rented miners from MRR about 1.4GH to support the network and i used my ANC address as username and mining was fine but i have gotten no payment from Xpool i thought i should wait but its like Xpool owner refused to pay me

[cryptogaga]

Guys does this ""Warning: (from bitcoind) This is a HARDFORK build for block 585555"" on xpool.net ANONCOIN Page mean the pool is behind? i dont understand why i didnt get paid

[K1773R]

I also was mining at hashtocoins, after htc crash i quickly moved my miners to xpool.net but xpool has not paid me a single ANC even though on the blockchain it shows i was with the biggest hashrate and earning but xpool did not pay me for my work

xpool had 1.5 GH hashrate the 21 June but only 100 MH the 22 June. They found a lot of blocks. If you configured your address correctly it shall work.

Nonetheless, people who have more than 100 MH/s of hashrate shall solo mine IMHO. It is very easy to setup and excellent for strengthening the Anoncoin network. Save this text into anoncoin.conf and place it in your %appdata%/anoncoin directory (or in /anoncoin/data for anci2pd). Change username and password to the same value than set on your asic. Uncomment #rpcallowip=192.168.0.0/24 and set it to you asic IP. Point your asic to this wallet IP address.

People with GPU shall not mine anoncoin, this is profitable only for SCRYPT asic, mine other altcoin (privacy focussed are zcash, monero).

Yes, when i noticed Hastocoins crashed i rented miners from MRR about 1.4GH to support the network and i used my ANC address as username and mining was fine but i have gotten no payment from Xpool i thought i should wait but its like Xpool owner refused to pay me

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

EDIT: found the source they use. its bugged and dosnt even mine bigger txs, hence cryptoslave has to do it.

[cryptogaga]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

[K1773R]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

they likely havent found a block yet, hence your not paid. just because someone found a block, dosnt mean your automatically paid. the pool you mine at has to find the block.

[cryptogaga]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

they likely havent found a block yet, hence your not paid. just because someone found a block, dosnt mean your automatically paid. the pool you mine at has to find the block.

But looking at my address it showed blocks were found yesterday when the network was down i rented 1.4 GH to mine and at that time im sure i mined a lot of blocks but my balance is not in agreement, looking at the screenshot you can see blocks found and yesterday the pool found most blocks as Cryptoslave confirmed

[Cryptoslave]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

they likely havent found a block yet, hence your not paid. just because someone found a block, dosnt mean your automatically paid. the pool you mine at has to find the block.

But looking at my address it showed blocks were found yesterday when the network was down i rented 1.4 GH to mine and at that time im sure i mined a lot of blocks but my balance is not in agreement, looking at the screenshot you can see blocks found and yesterday the pool found most blocks as Cryptoslave confirmed

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/address/ATxxdPs7mqgvXrhfnbeLwNxL6iazbabMxF

If this is your address you had the 21 June at 13:48

5eb80de57c...   686852   2017-06-21 13:48:15   0.04741731   4406.56949868   ANC

and 4h13 min later
52a3425eac...   686977   2017-06-21 18:01:46   3.95599295   4507.51458004   ANC

so you were paid 101 ANC for 88 blocks found. You would have got 110 ANC if you were solo mining + fees. You lost 9 ANC because on begining it balanced your hashrate with miner that was there before you so you gave them your reward and the more you mined the more the proportion went to you as you had the bigger hashrate and the pool algorithm then gave you more like a proportional pool with averaging of block reward on several blocks. You see it clearly your gain increase over time till you max out at 1.25 ANC.

I see this pool mine blocks has it got fees on the last blocks 3.95599295 ANC is Generation: 1.25 + 3.219 total fees.

IMO if you think you miss block reward it is just because of the proportional averaging of the mining pool, with such a huge hashrate you shall point it to your own node to get the full block reward+fees, but if the hashrate is rented you need to open your ports to point if from outside. You could also rent less hash power but for a longer time (days) to avoid this issue, and point this constant hashrate at xpool, if this is cost effective for you.

CS

[K1773R]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

they likely havent found a block yet, hence your not paid. just because someone found a block, dosnt mean your automatically paid. the pool you mine at has to find the block.

But looking at my address it showed blocks were found yesterday when the network was down i rented 1.4 GH to mine and at that time im sure i mined a lot of blocks but my balance is not in agreement, looking at the screenshot you can see blocks found and yesterday the pool found most blocks as Cryptoslave confirmed

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/address/ATxxdPs7mqgvXrhfnbeLwNxL6iazbabMxF

If this is your address you had the 21 June at 13:48

5eb80de57c...   686852   2017-06-21 13:48:15   0.04741731   4406.56949868   ANC

and 4h13 min later
52a3425eac...   686977   2017-06-21 18:01:46   3.95599295   4507.51458004   ANC

so you were paid 101 ANC for 88 blocks found. You would have got 110 ANC if you were solo mining + fees. You lost 9 ANC because on begining it balanced your hashrate with miner that was there before you so you gave them your reward and the more you mined the more the proportion went to you as you had the bigger hashrate and the pool algorithm then gave you more like a proportional pool with averaging of block reward on several blocks. You see it clearly your gain increase over time till you max out at 1.25 ANC.

I see this pool mine blocks has it got fees on the last blocks 3.95599295 ANC is Generation: 1.25 + 3.219 total fees.

IMO if you think you miss block reward it is just because of the proportional averaging of the mining pool, with such a huge hashrate you shall point it to your own node to get the full block reward+fees, but if the hashrate is rented you need to open your ports to point if from outside. You could also rent less hash power but for a longer time (days) to avoid this issue, and point this constant hashrate at xpool, if this is cost effective for you.

CS

default max tx size mineable by p2pool is 15kB AFAIK. so the big txs with lots of fees cannot be mined with p2pool (my version can.)

[cryptogaga]

Funny, they seem to run an unofficial solo p2pool instance. Thats not the idea of a p2pool. i'd avoid it just because of that. They should either provide the source of their p2pool version (so others can run their own instance and connect to them) or connect to the (no longer existing due to no more people joinin) ANC p2pool network.

I am confused here i dont know if you can help me understand whats going on?  Is there a systemic problem with the blockchain or the xpool owner is refusing to pay me for work done?

EDIT.
This is a screenshot of my address as available from abe explorer, it shows on the blockchain some blocks found but it doesnt reflect on my balance what could be wrong pls?

they likely havent found a block yet, hence your not paid. just because someone found a block, dosnt mean your automatically paid. the pool you mine at has to find the block.

But looking at my address it showed blocks were found yesterday when the network was down i rented 1.4 GH to mine and at that time im sure i mined a lot of blocks but my balance is not in agreement, looking at the screenshot you can see blocks found and yesterday the pool found most blocks as Cryptoslave confirmed

http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/address/ATxxdPs7mqgvXrhfnbeLwNxL6iazbabMxF

If this is your address you had the 21 June at 13:48

5eb80de57c...   686852   2017-06-21 13:48:15   0.04741731   4406.56949868   ANC

and 4h13 min later
52a3425eac...   686977   2017-06-21 18:01:46   3.95599295   4507.51458004   ANC

so you were paid 101 ANC for 88 blocks found. You would have got 110 ANC if you were solo mining + fees. You lost 9 ANC because on begining it balanced your hashrate with miner that was there before you so you gave them your reward and the more you mined the more the proportion went to you as you had the bigger hashrate and the pool algorithm then gave you more like a proportional pool with averaging of block reward on several blocks. You see it clearly your gain increase over time till you max out at 1.25 ANC.

I see this pool mine blocks has it got fees on the last blocks 3.95599295 ANC is Generation: 1.25 + 3.219 total fees.

IMO if you think you miss block reward it is just because of the proportional averaging of the mining pool, with such a huge hashrate you shall point it to your own node to get the full block reward+fees, but if the hashrate is rented you need to open your ports to point if from outside. You could also rent less hash power but for a longer time (days) to avoid this issue, and point this constant hashrate at xpool, if this is cost effective for you.

CS

Yes thats my address from btc38 and i use it to mine on pools when i can the balance is not exactly accurate as it only shows entire transaction i wish i had that 4k+ though.  Thanks for making things clear now

[cryptogaga]

default max tx size mineable by p2pool is 15kB AFAIK. so the big txs with lots of fees cannot be mined with p2pool (my version can.)

Ok i am quite a noob in mining, is your pool open to the public? if yes i could point miners when i can so whats the stratum.....?

[cryptogaga]

  you need to open your ports to point if from outside.

 Im Sorry to be so buggy but Please how can i open my ports?

[Cryptoslave]

 you need to open your ports to point if from outside.

 Im Sorry to be so buggy but Please how can i open my ports?

This depends of your modem/router/firewall. I cannot help you for that sorry :S

Otherwise, you can also rent a small digital ocean VPS like a 10$/month droplet, install ubuntu (automatically done), install anoncoin following https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source#Ubuntu_64_bit_or_Debian_8 , synchronize with the bootstrap.dat and configure correctly the anoncoin.conf in ~/.anoncoin
If you want to be a node for the i2p network you can also install i2p or i2pd and configure the anoncoin.conf in mixed mode (commented #onlynet=i2p and all others #onlynet= , and [i2p.options] enabled=1). It is better to not be in onlynet=i2p if you want to mine on this node because of an increase in stale blocks (although this is possible you will lose a small part of mined blocks due to increased propagation time, thereby reducing your mining efficiency).

Hope it helps and thank you to strengthen the Anoncoin network (especially if you happen to mine TX)!

[cryptogaga]

 you need to open your ports to point if from outside.

 Im Sorry to be so buggy but Please how can i open my ports?

This depends of your modem/router/firewall. I cannot help you for that sorry :S

Otherwise, you can also rent a small digital ocean VPS like a 10$/month droplet, install ubuntu (automatically done), install anoncoin following https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_from_source#Ubuntu_64_bit_or_Debian_8 , synchronize with the bootstrap.dat and configure correctly the anoncoin.conf in ~/.anoncoin
If you want to be a node for the i2p network you can also install i2p or i2pd and configure the anoncoin.conf in mixed mode (commented #onlynet=i2p and all others #onlynet= , and [i2p.options] enabled=1). It is better to not be in onlynet=i2p if you want to mine on this node because of an increase in stale blocks (although this is possible you will lose a small part of mined blocks due to increased propagation time, thereby reducing your mining efficiency).

Hope it helps and thank you to strengthen the Anoncoin network (especially if you happen to mine TX)!

Thank you for taking your time to enlighten me i think the digital ocean option is my best bet, how do i ensure to mine TX? and is there any incentive for running a node without mining?

[Cryptoslave]

For those who prefer the full installer over the anci2pd bundle:

Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 setup for win32 and win64 have been uploaded on Github!

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/5e441d8

[CartmanSPC]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

[Cryptoslave]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

Hi CartmanSPC,

I have uploaded two zip files with all executables created by the build process. Yes 0.9.6.12 is compatible with 0.9.6.13, the last one resolve a bug about spending change. I think it would be best if you keep your p2pool service! Also your pool seems to mine at least some of the mempool TX. We thank you to run your p2pool node and service, please let it run. 

CS

[CartmanSPC]

I have uploaded two zip files with all executables created by the build process. Yes 0.9.6.12 is compatible with 0.9.6.13, the last one resolve a bug about spending change.

Perfect...thanks!!!

[CartmanSPC]

Yes thats my address from btc38 and i use it to mine on pools when i can the balance is not exactly accurate as it only shows entire transaction i wish i had that 4k+ though.  Thanks for making things clear now

You can NOT use an exchange address with p2pool. The exchange got your block rewards but do not know they belongs to you. I actually forget the technical reason for this (lol) but that's the way it is. I would contact them letting them know that you used one of their addresses with p2pool. I'm sure they can work it out somehow.

[coinfinder000]

Community taked over?

[cryptogaga]

Yes thats my address from btc38 and i use it to mine on pools when i can the balance is not exactly accurate as it only shows entire transaction i wish i had that 4k+ though.  Thanks for making things clear now

You can NOT use an exchange address with p2pool. The exchange got your block rewards but do not know they belongs to you. I actually forget the technical reason for this (lol) but that's the way it is. I would contact them letting them know that you used one of their addresses with p2pool. I'm sure they can work it out somehow.

Ouchhhh i didnt know! i used bittrex and cryptopia address for other algo mining i thought it was same process, thanks for your effort,

[K1773R]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

There are a lot of huge txs, it would be nice if you could merge the patch. it just does a small change and you could even make it dependend on network (ie, only if anoncoin network selected). this way you wouldnt break compatibility with others (i'd add that code to my version, so you could cherry-pick the 2 commits). I didnt ask you to take it down tough

[CartmanSPC]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

There are a lot of huge txs, it would be nice if you could merge the patch. it just does a small change and you could even make it dependend on network (ie, only if anoncoin network selected). this way you wouldnt break compatibility with others (i'd add that code to my version, so you could cherry-pick the 2 commits). I didnt ask you to take it down tough

Ok!
I will add the code you developed to my ANC P2Pool node...I believe it is just this one commit?

https://github.com/K1773R/p2pool/commit/6079f026e22ffcfb80a5ac1937005ab2b9d5ccd0

Edit: I faintly recall forestv specifying reasons not to increase the TX size setting but since I don't have any connecting peers the point is moot. Also the benefit outweighs the risk for ANC specifically.

[K1773R]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

There are a lot of huge txs, it would be nice if you could merge the patch. it just does a small change and you could even make it dependend on network (ie, only if anoncoin network selected). this way you wouldnt break compatibility with others (i'd add that code to my version, so you could cherry-pick the 2 commits). I didnt ask you to take it down tough

Ok!
I will add the code you developed to my ANC P2Pool node...I believe it is just this one commit?

https://github.com/K1773R/p2pool/commit/6079f026e22ffcfb80a5ac1937005ab2b9d5ccd0

Edit: I faintly recall forestv specifying reasons not to increase the TX size setting but since I don't have any connecting peers the point is moot. Also the benefit outweighs the risk for ANC specifically.

That is correct, thats the only commit you'll need to be able to mine bigger tx's.

[Cryptoslave]

So btc38 stopping ANC/BTC trading pair and adding ANC/CNY instead (as before). I guess it is ok, but I have experienced lots of problems over there lately. Maybe the english version of the site will be discarded at some point? What do you think

I think there will be more volume in ANC/CNY as the BTC market there was for the little volume coins. Yes BTC38 sucks big time.

[mdnajir]

Wow, worth of anoncoin is steady increasing, terribly happy to finally see some real action.

Whats the most effective exchange at the instant to shop for anoncoin? 

[Cryptoslave]

Wow, worth of anoncoin is steady increasing, terribly happy to finally see some real action.

Whats the most effective exchange at the instant to shop for anoncoin? 

Best is Nova, but most volume are on BTC38, if you can ask the support to open for you the ANC wallet. Otherwise there are two I2P exchanges (exchanged.i2p and Cryptocurrency exchanger, a shapeshift clone on I2P)  but they are under construction at the moment. Check https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Exchanges

CS

[CartmanSPC]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

There are a lot of huge txs, it would be nice if you could merge the patch. it just does a small change and you could even make it dependend on network (ie, only if anoncoin network selected). this way you wouldnt break compatibility with others (i'd add that code to my version, so you could cherry-pick the 2 commits). I didnt ask you to take it down tough

Ok!
I will add the code you developed to my ANC P2Pool node...I believe it is just this one commit?

https://github.com/K1773R/p2pool/commit/6079f026e22ffcfb80a5ac1937005ab2b9d5ccd0

Edit: I faintly recall forestv specifying reasons not to increase the TX size setting but since I don't have any connecting peers the point is moot. Also the benefit outweighs the risk for ANC specifically.

That is correct, thats the only commit you'll need to be able to mine bigger tx's.

xpool.net update to allow larger tx's!

Can you/someone test to see if it is working?

[Cryptoslave]

Hi all...been out of the crypto world for a while. I see there is a new version of ANC...does anyone have the 64 bit non-installable (zip) version?

Not sure right now what version the pool runs but I think it is 0.9.6.12.
Is that still compatible or do I need to update it as well? If so then I will (try) compile the Linux version from the source.

I know the version of p2pool I run does not support the larger TX's but I don't feel like maintaining a different p2pool code base just for ANC than the other coins.

If you feel it is appropriate I can just take down the p2pool node I run.

There are a lot of huge txs, it would be nice if you could merge the patch. it just does a small change and you could even make it dependend on network (ie, only if anoncoin network selected). this way you wouldnt break compatibility with others (i'd add that code to my version, so you could cherry-pick the 2 commits). I didnt ask you to take it down tough

Ok!
I will add the code you developed to my ANC P2Pool node...I believe it is just this one commit?

https://github.com/K1773R/p2pool/commit/6079f026e22ffcfb80a5ac1937005ab2b9d5ccd0

Edit: I faintly recall forestv specifying reasons not to increase the TX size setting but since I don't have any connecting peers the point is moot. Also the benefit outweighs the risk for ANC specifically.

That is correct, thats the only commit you'll need to be able to mine bigger tx's.

xpool.net update to allow larger tx's!

Can you/someone test to see if it is working?

Thank you!

For the moment TX are broadcasted regularly, I did not try a purposeful big TX but the network is behaving well now. Both blocks and TX are on time and the PID work well too I just checked the last 35000 blocks. The increased global hashrate I think is also good (there are about 9 GH/s on the network now which is 50% more than two weeks ago and 5000% more than a couple of months ago).

CS

[seaman staines]

So btc38 stopping ANC/BTC trading pair and adding ANC/CNY instead (as before). I guess it is ok, but I have experienced lots of problems over there lately. Maybe the english version of the site will be discarded at some point? What do you think

I think there will be more volume in ANC/CNY as the BTC market there was for the little volume coins. Yes BTC38 sucks big time.

Does btc38 allow registering without verifying your identity? The announcement post implies btc38's anoncoin wallet isn't on the right chain. If btc38 gets back on the right chain will it allow anoncoin withdrawals without identity verification?

[Cryptoslave]

So btc38 stopping ANC/BTC trading pair and adding ANC/CNY instead (as before). I guess it is ok, but I have experienced lots of problems over there lately. Maybe the english version of the site will be discarded at some point? What do you think

I think there will be more volume in ANC/CNY as the BTC market there was for the little volume coins. Yes BTC38 sucks big time.

Does btc38 allow registering without verifying your identity? The announcement post implies btc38's anoncoin wallet isn't on the right chain. If btc38 gets back on the right chain will it allow anoncoin withdrawals without identity verification?

BTC38 is on the right chain and allow withdrawal of coins in a limited amount (1000$ worth/day) and deposit of ANC works correctly. You have to ask the support to activate ANC wallet. In fact they have no issue with the ANC wallet for new account after asking the support. They cannot activate ANC wallet for whatever reason on old accounts.

[seaman staines]

So btc38 stopping ANC/BTC trading pair and adding ANC/CNY instead (as before). I guess it is ok, but I have experienced lots of problems over there lately. Maybe the english version of the site will be discarded at some point? What do you think

I think there will be more volume in ANC/CNY as the BTC market there was for the little volume coins. Yes BTC38 sucks big time.

Does btc38 allow registering without verifying your identity? The announcement post implies btc38's anoncoin wallet isn't on the right chain. If btc38 gets back on the right chain will it allow anoncoin withdrawals without identity verification?

BTC38 is on the right chain and allow withdrawal of coins in a limited amount (1000$ worth/day) and deposit of ANC works correctly. You have to ask the support to activate ANC wallet. In fact they have no issue with the ANC wallet for new account after asking the support. They cannot activate ANC wallet for whatever reason on old accounts.

Can you withdraw the 1000$ worth/day without identity verification?

Why do you have to ask support to activate ANC wallet?

[x2666]

BTC38 is a weird site... they require you to login with facebook, so I made a burner the one time I used them. I sent a few of an altcoin just to test withdraws but I didn't even meet the minimum threshold to withdraw. I had like .5 ltc but the minimum was 1 ltc to withdraw.

I would recommend using other sites unless you really want to trade on a Chinese exchange and have enough capital to justify doing business there. The withdraws can take a long time too, 1-2 weeks. I think there was a manditory waiting period for withdraws but i forget how long, might be 15 days.

Also, weirdly, btc38 credits you 101% of your deposit amount per currency and it takes several hours to appear after it deposits which leads me to believe they trade with your deposit to make a profit before allowing you to access it.

Weird stuff.

[HPt]

BTC38 is a weird site... they require you to login with facebook, so I made a burner the one time I used them. I sent a few of an altcoin just to test withdraws but I didn't even meet the minimum threshold to withdraw. I had like .5 ltc but the minimum was 1 ltc to withdraw.

I would recommend using other sites unless you really want to trade on a Chinese exchange and have enough capital to justify doing business there. The withdraws can take a long time too, 1-2 weeks. I think there was a manditory waiting period for withdraws but i forget how long, might be 15 days.

Also, weirdly, btc38 credits you 101% of your deposit amount per currency and it takes several hours to appear after it deposits which leads me to believe they trade with your deposit to make a profit before allowing you to access it.

Weird stuff.

The 101% is just cosmetic. If you withdraw you only get 99%. So, after one deposit and withdrawal you get 1.01 * 0.99 = 0.9999 of your initial deposit back. So, the bottom line is: There is an effective 0.01% withdrawal fee.

[machico]

CS - I have started the draft for the crowdfunding campaign. I will work on it until Friday, but if you want to contribute, I will PM you the log in details.

[cryptogaga]

Anoncoin trading is live on ExchangeD.I2P

ExchangeD.I2P over clearnet
ExchangeD.I2P over tor
ExchangeD.I2P over I2P

Happy Trading

Site looks good! Kudos!

[Cryptoslave]

CS - I have started the draft for the crowdfunding campaign. I will work on it until Friday, but if you want to contribute, I will PM you the log in details.

Excellent! How long do you think it will take to finish the crowdfunding page? I never did this so I have no experience.

Thanks!

[Cryptoslave]

Anoncoin trading is live on ExchangeD.I2P

ExchangeD.I2P over clearnet
ExchangeD.I2P over tor
ExchangeD.I2P over I2P

Happy Trading

Site looks good! Kudos!

Excellent Abyss! Welcome back and I updated the link in the topic main page.

[machico]

CS - I have started the draft for the crowdfunding campaign. I will work on it until Friday, but if you want to contribute, I will PM you the log in details.

Excellent! How long do you think it will take to finish the crowdfunding page? I never did this so I have no experience.

Thanks!

I am not sure. Is there a video about Anoncoin? We need a video explaining what Anoncoin is. Maybe I can adapt an existing video that has already been created?

[machico]

http://[flash=200,200][/flash]

CS - I have started the draft for the crowdfunding campaign. I will work on it until Friday, but if you want to contribute, I will PM you the log in details.

Excellent! How long do you think it will take to finish the crowdfunding page? I never did this so I have no experience.

Thanks!

I am not sure. Is there a video about Anoncoin? We need a video explaining what Anoncoin is. Maybe I can adapt an existing video that has already been created?

CS - I created a short video for the crowdfunding. Let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3yPeIdkys&feature=youtu.be

[machico]

http://[flash=200,200][/flash]

CS - I have started the draft for the crowdfunding campaign. I will work on it until Friday, but if you want to contribute, I will PM you the log in details.

Excellent! How long do you think it will take to finish the crowdfunding page? I never did this so I have no experience.

Thanks!

I am not sure. Is there a video about Anoncoin? We need a video explaining what Anoncoin is. Maybe I can adapt an existing video that has already been created?

CS - I created a short video for the crowdfunding. Let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3yPeIdkys&feature=youtu.be

CS & the community - Can you please contribute here:

Short Summary

Contributors fund ideas they can be passionate about and to people they trust. Here are some things to do in this section:

* Introduce yourself and your background

* Briefly describe your campaign and why it's important to you

* Express the magnitude of what contributors will help you achieve



What We Need & What You Get

Break it down for folks in more detail:

Explain how much funding you need and where it's going. Be transparent and specific-people need to trust you to want to fund you.

* Tell people about your unique perks. Get them excited!
* Describe where the funds go if you don't reach your entire goal.
* The Impact


* Explain why your project is valuable to the contributor and to the world.
* Point out your successful track record with projects like this (if you have one).


Risks & Challenges

People value your transparency. Be open and stand out by providing insight into the risks and obstacles you may face on the way to achieving your goal.

* Share what qualifies you to overcome these hurdles.
* Describe your plan for solving these challenges.
* Other Ways You Can Help
* Some people just can't contribute, but that doesn't mean they can't help:

Ask folks to get the word out and make some noise about your campaign.

Remind them to use the Indiegogo share tools!
And that's all there is to it.

[machico]

I have created a Gmail account for the project:

anoncoin.project@gmail.com

Youtube: anoncoin project

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3yPeIdkys&feature=youtu.be

[machico]

I have created a Gmail account for the project:

anoncoin.project@gmail.com

Youtube: anoncoin project

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3yPeIdkys&feature=youtu.be

cool video. ill donate 1000ANC towards development of zerocoin

Thank you entertheabyss.

[entertheabyss]

I have doubts about Indiegogo though. It accepts credit cards USD payment but I think most people who would donate to this project would use Bitcoin or Anoncoin.

Last time we did a crowdfunder on bitcointalk and raised several thousand IIRC. Alternatively I can offer to run a crowdfunder from ExchangeD.I2P. As I am already developing a new anonymous crowdfunding platform.

[machico]

I have doubts about indiegogo though. It accepts credit cards USD payment but I think most people who would donate to this project would use Bitcoin or Anoncoin.

Last time we did a crowdfunder on bitcointalk and raised several thousand IIRC. Alternatively I can offer to run a crowdfunder from ExchangeD.I2P. As I am already developing a new anonymous crowdfunding platform.

entertheabyss - That is a very good idea! We could run both. Indiegogo will give the funds even if we don't get to the target.


ysell spoke to some developers in the i2p chat room and was quoted $20k to integrate zerocoin. You seem to have quite a a lot of experience with coding, therefore, do you think it will cost that much and do you know people that could potentially do it?

Cryptoslave - What do you think about entertheabyss's idea?

[machico]

Does anybody know what is happening with BTC38? Trading seems to be suspended!

[digiguy]

Does anybody know what is happening with BTC38? Trading seems to be suspended!

I just checked the blockchain and it looks fine don't see why would they suspend it can you check again I don't have a btc38 account

[machico]

Does anybody know what is happening with BTC38? Trading seems to be suspended!

I just checked the blockchain and it looks fine don't see why would they suspend it can you check again I don't have a btc38 account

BTC38 suspended trading ANC and other coins due to the upcoming introduction of BCC (Bitcoin Cash) trading on BTC38. Asian miners, exchanges and investors are going ahead with the BTC split.

[digiguy]

Does anybody know what is happening with BTC38? Trading seems to be suspended!

I just checked the blockchain and it looks fine don't see why would they suspend it can you check again I don't have a btc38 account

BTC38 suspended trading ANC and other coins due to the upcoming introduction of BCC (Bitcoin Cash) trading on BTC38. Asian miners, exchanges and investors are going ahead with the BTC split.

wow thats major can you share some info about that any news or article on this thanks

[digiguy]

so I set an account with btc38 and yeah they stop everything no trading for the weekend I guess fuck LOL   

[machico]

so I set an account with btc38 and yeah they stop everything no trading for the weekend I guess fuck LOL  

All explained here.

https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-explainer-bitcoin-cash-forking-blockchain/

[machico]

so I set an account with btc38 and yeah they stop everything no trading for the weekend I guess fuck LOL  

All explained here.

https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-explainer-bitcoin-cash-forking-blockchain/

BTC38 has made the decision to cancel the listing of ANC and other small coins due to what they said was low volume, little development etc. They gave me IFNChain in exchange yesterday for all my ANC's (2000+) which I sold for CNY and got most of the value I had prior to the suspension. Overall the deal is actually very good compared to what has happened to ANC on Nova. If I had my coins on nova today, I would have lost around 80% of the value ANC had prior to the suspension on BTC38.

Moreover, we haven't heard anything from Cryptoslave for a while or Yobit for that matter and now we are only on two exchanges with very low volume. I have to admit that it is looking grim for ANC. The CNY I was able to salvage from this mess (22k) I have on BTC38, will be converted to BTC so I can transfer to BITTREX and buy BCC, Monero and Decred.

[digiguy]

thats ok ill continue to buy more this coin is rare so why not

[GREEDYJOHN]

People have been posting more comments on the old thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.0

Anyway, I posted this thread link in my last comment over there.

[x2666]

I still haven't sold my Anoncoin, I think it has potential to re-attain those heights. BTC38 delisting anoncoin crashed the market, which is dumb if you ask me.

I hate when exchanges delist coins, it makes the market move downward in an artificial way. People sell for no reason other than that. Sure, it wasn't a huge volume coin for them but do they really need to delist it? Does it really consume that many resources?

I bought a few more, Hodling in hopes of zerocoin integration.

[woogod]

BTC38 delisting threw off the markets,
But if this coin can be developed to have zerocoin integration and possible even incentivised nodes - the way ZCOIN is going. Then I think this coin can be worth even more than what it was before.

[machico]

BTC38 delisting threw off the markets,
But if this coin can be developed to have zerocoin integration and possible even incentivised nodes - the way ZCOIN is going. Then I think this coin can be worth even more than what it was before.

woogod - do you have much involvement with zcoin? This is what Cryptoslave wrote about Zcoin:

The zcoin implementation of zerocoin is done using a trusted source for accumulator namely RSA-2048. The RSA-2048 number was created by RSA Laboratories in March 1991 to encourage research into computational number theory and the practical difficulty of factoring large integers. It was thus created by a company incorporated in USA and this company is thus to be trusted to not have kept the original two prime factors. Because we cannot trust this company to not have kept the factors, it is to be assumed this company or employees can forge fake zcoins at will, which can be done easily when the factor are known. Furthermore they badly coded their zerocoin implementation with a typo that allowed to reuse spent zerocoin. Zcoin by this way in February suffered a heist of  370000 zcoin worth about 2600000$ now.

The Anoncoin implementation of zerocoin aim to use RSA-UFO as trustless accumulators. In contrast, RSA-2048 or a multiparty computation both involve different degrees of trust. In a similar way that what happened with zcoin, if some entity known the prime factors they can then generate infinite amount of zerocoin with fake Zero knowledge proof.

Hoppefully, Sander gave a way to generate semiprime number with a certain degree of certainty in a trustless way using an algorithm. Those numbers are called RSA-UFO for generalised RSA moduli of Unknown complete Factorisation. It is important to note that this work by Sander is superior to secure multiparty computation protocols. Indeed, if MPC are employed during system setup colluding member could recover P and Q and thus the problem of someone who known the trapdoor also remain in the distributed setting. In contrast nobody know the complete factorisation of the RSA-UFO thus the problem of trapdoor is resolved with this setup for the accumulator.

Gnosis implemented a function that on startup all Anoncoin wallet software deterministically generates the same 16 raw UFOs using SHA-256 hashing of the numbers 0-15. This being done, people from the Anoncoin community brute forced those numbers for 75 days using the Elliptic Curve Method of factorization to remove the small factors up to 165 bits. If the RSA-UFO bit length after division by small factors is lower than 3456, the RSA-UFO was unfit for the security level we wanted because it would have been possible to use the General Number Field Sieve (GNFS) to factor it. It was shown by Monte-Carlo simulation that with this minimum number of 3456 bits the RSA-UFO was unfactorable with a certainty of 80%. By using 13 such RSA-UFO, and with only one of them needed to be secure, and the zerocoin having to be accumulated in all of them, the probability of all of them to be unsecure is 0.2^13=0.0000000008192 ~ 1 out of 1 billion.

So the procedure to generate the complete RSA UFOs is 1) create the 13 "raw" UFOs by hashing, and 2) divide out the small factors found in the UFO project. This is performed not only by the UFO clients and server, but also will be performed on startup by all Anoncoin wallet software. This is the trustless way to zerocoin we want to finalize in Anoncoin. In this way, the security will resist extremely powerful attackers able to remove factors by the Elliptic Curve Method (ECM) up to 768 bits and able to factor numbers up to 2048 bits using the Generalized Number Field Sieve (GNFS). This is far beyond what anybody is likely to be able to do for many decades.

To summarize, the difference between zerocoin-in-Anoncoin and zerocoin-in-Zcoin is that the latter is using a trusted accumulator. For Zcoin and Zcash, even using MPC, no amount of studying the source code will tell you if the master key was destroyed as it's supposed to be. Nobody can be sure. In contrast, studying the source of Anoncoin (and relevant papers on the crypto, and the RSA-UFO wiki page) enables people to verify that there are no backdoors. This is why Anoncoin aim for using such a trustless solution. This, combined with the only implementation of I2P-SAM in the wallet of all coin, development of the C++ i2p router i2pd with orignal, and cooperation with services such as exchanged.i2p lead us to be the best trustless anonymous coin on the market.

[GREEDYJOHN]

THIS WAS POSTED ON THE OLD THREAD

Anoncoin Development Team & Community Members


Development team

Meeh
Founder, Anoncoin Core Lead Developer

Meeh has strong beliefs that the Anoncoin project is a necessary step to take as the central banks are in motion to prevent trading of popular cryptocurrencies.

GroundRod
Anoncoin Core Lead Developer

GroundRod ported the Anoncoin Core codebase to the new 0.10 version and of updating the I2PSAM module to get the smoothest running build. He is very knowledgeable in computer code and testing software and has an extensive comprehension of the Anoncoin and Bitcoin code.

K1773R
Security, Developer

K1773R is a solid developer with security in mind. K1773R has worked on other cryptocurrency projects before joining the Anoncoin development team.

Gnosis
Cryptography, Zerocoin Developer

Gnosis has an in-depth understanding of cryptography and will be a valuable resource during our implementation of Zerocoin. He has successfully launched our testing phase of RSA-UFOs, which is a critical precursor to our trustless implementation of Zerocoin.

Orignal
I2P Networking, LibI2Pd Developer, AncI2Pd Developer

Orignal is the developer of LibI2Pd, and the original developer of I2Pd, a C++ based router for the I2P darknet. He is unremittingly working for the integration of the router into Anoncoin (AncI2pd project).

Mrebum
Themes Compatibility, QT's CSS Developer

Mrebum has a few decades as a programmer and engineer. He has ported the use of customizable qss stylesheet based themes for the QT wallet.

Lunokhod
Documentation, Project Manager

Lunokhod is responsible for overseeing the project, documentation, website and wiki. He brings with him several years of experience as the leader of a scientific research lab and as the editor-in-chief of a major scientific journal.

Cryptoslave
Testnet, Project Manager

Cryptoslave keeps track of development and is making sure issues reported are filled for further review. He dedicates his time to better the coin by communicating with the other members of the team and listening to the community.

Community members

Abyss
Creator of ExchangeD.i2p, the first anonymous cryptocurrency exchange.

Alacast
I'm just an enthusiast helping Anoncoin on my spare time...

BroTroxer
BroTroxer has extensive knowledge of the cryptocurrency markets, he shares the same beliefs as the dev team regarding the future of cryptocurrencies.

Geekz
Geekz is the web designer who is in charge of Ancblockchain, Anoncoin block explorer.

N00n
N00n is the graphic designer responsible for the Anoncoin brand identity.

[woogod]

BTC38 delisting threw off the markets,
But if this coin can be developed to have zerocoin integration and possible even incentivised nodes - the way ZCOIN is going. Then I think this coin can be worth even more than what it was before.

woogod - do you have much involvement with zcoin? This is what Cryptoslave wrote about Zcoin:

The zcoin implementation of zerocoin is done using a trusted source for accumulator namely RSA-2048. The RSA-2048 number was created by RSA Laboratories in March 1991 to encourage research into computational number theory and the practical difficulty of factoring large integers. It was thus created by a company incorporated in USA and this company is thus to be trusted to not have kept the original two prime factors. Because we cannot trust this company to not have kept the factors, it is to be assumed this company or employees can forge fake zcoins at will, which can be done easily when the factor are known. Furthermore they badly coded their zerocoin implementation with a typo that allowed to reuse spent zerocoin. Zcoin by this way in February suffered a heist of  370000 zcoin worth about 2600000$ now.

The Anoncoin implementation of zerocoin aim to use RSA-UFO as trustless accumulators. In contrast, RSA-2048 or a multiparty computation both involve different degrees of trust. In a similar way that what happened with zcoin, if some entity known the prime factors they can then generate infinite amount of zerocoin with fake Zero knowledge proof.

Hoppefully, Sander gave a way to generate semiprime number with a certain degree of certainty in a trustless way using an algorithm. Those numbers are called RSA-UFO for generalised RSA moduli of Unknown complete Factorisation. It is important to note that this work by Sander is superior to secure multiparty computation protocols. Indeed, if MPC are employed during system setup colluding member could recover P and Q and thus the problem of someone who known the trapdoor also remain in the distributed setting. In contrast nobody know the complete factorisation of the RSA-UFO thus the problem of trapdoor is resolved with this setup for the accumulator.

Gnosis implemented a function that on startup all Anoncoin wallet software deterministically generates the same 16 raw UFOs using SHA-256 hashing of the numbers 0-15. This being done, people from the Anoncoin community brute forced those numbers for 75 days using the Elliptic Curve Method of factorization to remove the small factors up to 165 bits. If the RSA-UFO bit length after division by small factors is lower than 3456, the RSA-UFO was unfit for the security level we wanted because it would have been possible to use the General Number Field Sieve (GNFS) to factor it. It was shown by Monte-Carlo simulation that with this minimum number of 3456 bits the RSA-UFO was unfactorable with a certainty of 80%. By using 13 such RSA-UFO, and with only one of them needed to be secure, and the zerocoin having to be accumulated in all of them, the probability of all of them to be unsecure is 0.2^13=0.0000000008192 ~ 1 out of 1 billion.

So the procedure to generate the complete RSA UFOs is 1) create the 13 "raw" UFOs by hashing, and 2) divide out the small factors found in the UFO project. This is performed not only by the UFO clients and server, but also will be performed on startup by all Anoncoin wallet software. This is the trustless way to zerocoin we want to finalize in Anoncoin. In this way, the security will resist extremely powerful attackers able to remove factors by the Elliptic Curve Method (ECM) up to 768 bits and able to factor numbers up to 2048 bits using the Generalized Number Field Sieve (GNFS). This is far beyond what anybody is likely to be able to do for many decades.

To summarize, the difference between zerocoin-in-Anoncoin and zerocoin-in-Zcoin is that the latter is using a trusted accumulator. For Zcoin and Zcash, even using MPC, no amount of studying the source code will tell you if the master key was destroyed as it's supposed to be. Nobody can be sure. In contrast, studying the source of Anoncoin (and relevant papers on the crypto, and the RSA-UFO wiki page) enables people to verify that there are no backdoors. This is why Anoncoin aim for using such a trustless solution. This, combined with the only implementation of I2P-SAM in the wallet of all coin, development of the C++ i2p router i2pd with orignal, and cooperation with services such as exchanged.i2p lead us to be the best trustless anonymous coin on the market.

I don't have that much involvement with the coin, I have just traded it a few times and turned decent profit on them.
I just quote ZCOIN because I thought ZCOIN and ANONCOIN are both zerocoin iterations, but it seems that ANC is different in the trustless setup.
I am not yet technical enough to testify any truth in what Cryptoslave has said - but when I get into contact with him I can understand better.
But according to what he says ANC does seem to be a better choice than zcoin or zcash given the trustless setup.

When did cryptoslave say this?

[machico]

THIS WAS POSTED ON THE OLD THREAD

Anoncoin Development Team & Community Members


Development team

Meeh
Founder, Anoncoin Core Lead Developer

Meeh has strong beliefs that the Anoncoin project is a necessary step to take as the central banks are in motion to prevent trading of popular cryptocurrencies.

GroundRod
Anoncoin Core Lead Developer

GroundRod ported the Anoncoin Core codebase to the new 0.10 version and of updating the I2PSAM module to get the smoothest running build. He is very knowledgeable in computer code and testing software and has an extensive comprehension of the Anoncoin and Bitcoin code.

K1773R
Security, Developer

K1773R is a solid developer with security in mind. K1773R has worked on other cryptocurrency projects before joining the Anoncoin development team.

Gnosis
Cryptography, Zerocoin Developer

Gnosis has an in-depth understanding of cryptography and will be a valuable resource during our implementation of Zerocoin. He has successfully launched our testing phase of RSA-UFOs, which is a critical precursor to our trustless implementation of Zerocoin.

Orignal
I2P Networking, LibI2Pd Developer, AncI2Pd Developer

Orignal is the developer of LibI2Pd, and the original developer of I2Pd, a C++ based router for the I2P darknet. He is unremittingly working for the integration of the router into Anoncoin (AncI2pd project).

Mrebum
Themes Compatibility, QT's CSS Developer

Mrebum has a few decades as a programmer and engineer. He has ported the use of customizable qss stylesheet based themes for the QT wallet.

Lunokhod
Documentation, Project Manager

Lunokhod is responsible for overseeing the project, documentation, website and wiki. He brings with him several years of experience as the leader of a scientific research lab and as the editor-in-chief of a major scientific journal.

Cryptoslave
Testnet, Project Manager

Cryptoslave keeps track of development and is making sure issues reported are filled for further review. He dedicates his time to better the coin by communicating with the other members of the team and listening to the community.

Community members

Abyss
Creator of ExchangeD.i2p, the first anonymous cryptocurrency exchange.

Alacast
I'm just an enthusiast helping Anoncoin on my spare time...

BroTroxer
BroTroxer has extensive knowledge of the cryptocurrency markets, he shares the same beliefs as the dev team regarding the future of cryptocurrencies.

Geekz
Geekz is the web designer who is in charge of Ancblockchain, Anoncoin block explorer.

N00n
N00n is the graphic designer responsible for the Anoncoin brand identity.

It was posted on this thread June 04, 2017, 10:48:58 PM.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481693.320

[GREEDYJOHN]

I have a feeling something is going to happen soon. This coin is not meant to die, because it is unique

This coin should not die. It is one of the oldest coins that is surviving the test of time.

[x2666]

Perhaps this coin will fare better in the upcoming BCH dominate trade ecosystem. ANC/BCH might gain traction better than ANC/BTC.

P.S. BCH is going to win because it is more profitable for the dominant traders if it wins.

[shtako]

Perhaps this coin will fare better in the upcoming BCH dominate trade ecosystem. ANC/BCH might gain traction better than ANC/BTC.

P.S. BCH is going to win because it is more profitable for the dominant traders if it wins.

Lol. Bch is a scam and its not going anywhere. It will pump and dump for å few months and eventually fade away. The only reason it exist is for people to make money scamming those who are misinformed enought to believe in it.

[woogod]

Perhaps this coin will fare better in the upcoming BCH dominate trade ecosystem. ANC/BCH might gain traction better than ANC/BTC.

P.S. BCH is going to win because it is more profitable for the dominant traders if it wins.

Lol. Bch is a scam and its not going anywhere. It will pump and dump for å few months and eventually fade away. The only reason it exist is for people to make money scamming those who are misinformed enought to believe in it.

Yeah though more pairs for ANC is good either way.

[GREEDYJOHN]

ANONCOIN EXPLORER is syncing, BUT it is still many years behind:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/

This explorer is NOT READY yet - it is still over 4 years behind !!!!

[33Bit]

ANONCOIN EXPLORER is syncing, BUT it is still many years behind:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/

This explorer is NOT READY yet - it is still over 4 years behind !!!!

BLOCK EXPOLER:
http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

[GREEDYJOHN]

ANONCOIN CHAINZ EXPLORER:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/

This explorer is NOW FULLY SYNCED 

[GREEDYJOHN]

I just downloaded ANONCOIN client, BUT whenever I boot the client, I always get an onscreen message like "your wallet is running on clearnet"

What does this mean? Are there any problems with this? Is it safe for me to transfer coins to this wallet?

[enzeperix]

hello. is this coin actively developed ? Is Zerocoin protocol implemented yet ? the people who are supposed to work on it , they just do it on their spare time ?

[GREEDYJOHN]

hello. is this coin actively developed ? Is Zerocoin protocol implemented yet ? the people who are supposed to work on it , they just do it on their spare time ?

There is a potential DEV team, but I heard that one of them will be back in October, while the others only bother to communicate on IRC2P, which I do not use. We need these DEVs to show up on this thread.

[enzeperix]

I see thanks for the answer . I found this coin few months ago when it was around 2 $ and i see now it crashed 90%.So sad. I like it and wanted to buy 5000 ANC at 4600 satoshi but nobody wanted to dump in my mini-wall for 2 days. the volume is so low on Nova...

[33Bit]

I see thanks for the answer . I found this coin few months ago when it was around 2 $ and i see now it crashed 90%.So sad. I like it and wanted to buy 5000 ANC at 4600 satoshi but nobody wanted to dump in my mini-wall for 2 days. the volume is so low on Nova...

This coin was 2-3 usd and tade more than 300.000 usd /day about 3 months long (20+ million usd)  marketcap now 315,000 usd lol

 Huge potential....

[GREEDYJOHN]

I see thanks for the answer . I found this coin few months ago when it was around 2 $ and i see now it crashed 90%.So sad. I like it and wanted to buy 5000 ANC at 4600 satoshi but nobody wanted to dump in my mini-wall for 2 days. the volume is so low on Nova...

This coin was 2-3 usd and tade more than 300.000 usd /day about 3 months long (20+ million usd)  marketcap now 315,000 usd lol

 Huge potential....

This could be another sleeping GIANT.

[cryptogaga]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

[GREEDYJOHN]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

If you know where the DEVs are, please tell them to come back, so tat we can discuss

[K1773R]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

If you know where the DEVs are, please tell them to come back, so tat we can discuss

If you'd read the posts, you'd know we're on irc2p in #anoncoin and #anoncoin-dev.

[GREEDYJOHN]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

If you know where the DEVs are, please tell them to come back, so tat we can discuss

If you'd read the posts, you'd know we're on irc2p in #anoncoin and #anoncoin-dev.

I want to contact the ANONCON DEVs, but I am not used to the IRC2p platform.

If you guys need funds, then you need to state it on this thread, so that all agreements can be made on this thread.

[machico]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

If you know where the DEVs are, please tell them to come back, so tat we can discuss

If you'd read the posts, you'd know we're on irc2p in #anoncoin and #anoncoin-dev.

I want to contact the ANONCON DEVs, but I am not used to the IRC2p platform.

If you guys need funds, then you need to state it on this thread, so that all agreements can be made on this thread.

K1773R - I have tried 1 million ways to get to get to the IRC2p platform, but with no success. The only platform I am able to get to is http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#anoncoin on clearnet. Can you please help

[K1773R]

Definitely a sleeping giant with good history, unfortunately BTC38 was the biggest exchange for ANC and since the delisting of ANC and other coins from BTC38 the volume dropped significantly but still holding strong, Devs need to make it clear that this coin is not abandoned to avoid loss of confidence in using the coin.
The Zerocoin protocol would really skyrocket Anoncoin to where it ought to be.

If you know where the DEVs are, please tell them to come back, so tat we can discuss

If you'd read the posts, you'd know we're on irc2p in #anoncoin and #anoncoin-dev.

I want to contact the ANONCON DEVs, but I am not used to the IRC2p platform.

If you guys need funds, then you need to state it on this thread, so that all agreements can be made on this thread.

K1773R - I have tried 1 million ways to get to get to the IRC2p platform, but with no success. The only platform I am able to get to is http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#anoncoin on clearnet. Can you please help

Code:

- start i2p or i2pd
- wait 1-2min
- point your IRC client to these
server: 127.0.0.1
port: 6668
channel #anoncoin

[Morbid]

imho anoncoin got significant potential, considering its arguably the most anonymous coin comparing with other projects out there..

[shtako]

imho anoncoin got significant potential, considering its arguably the most anonymous coin comparing with other projects out there..

It is not the most anonymous coin. But it was the first coin with focus on anonymity. Sadly, the development of the zerocoin integration failed and the project slid into oblivion. There is still huge potential and the price could easily go 10-100x if someone steps up and contribute with the development.

[enzeperix]

Yeah, the coin has a good name and is pretty old. Has huge potential , it would be a shame if they just leave it fade away. I'm not an expert myself but i don't think is very difficult to integrate an anonymity layer , other coins did it successfully but maybe they had more resources and devs dedicated more time .

[fredericos]

If someone wants to sell lots of Anoncoin without dumping the market contact me. I want to buy 100k at 0.12 usd (about 3 btc total)

[AnarchyEvo]

No dev team , no Community , no Community no Volume , no Volume R.I.P

[33Bit]

Giant sleep a little.

[MaseratiGhibli]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

[shtako]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

[33Bit]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/5e441d8

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.13.0

[K1773R]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

nono... if you want to sync fast AND use the coin what its for, then you enable i2p!
most peers on clearnet are very outdated wallets which are long incompatible.

[GREEDYJOHN]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

nono... if you want to sync fast AND use the coin what its for, then you enable i2p!
most peers on clearnet are very outdated wallets which are long incompatible.

Is Cryptoslave still around?

[digiguy]

I'm buying as much coins as I can I'm also mining this coin. I think is going to be huge in the future. I have one question do you guys know what pool has the largest hashshing power ?? 

[fredericos]

I'm buying as much coins as I can I'm also mining this coin. I think is going to be huge in the future. I have one question do you guys know what pool has the largest hashshing power ?? 

On multipool coin seems dead, what is the profit? why block explorer seems not working?

[33Bit]

I'm buying as much coins as I can I'm also mining this coin. I think is going to be huge in the future. I have one question do you guys know what pool has the largest hashshing power ??  

On multipool coin seems dead, what is the profit? why block explorer seems not working?

Pool and explorer works

Explorer 1: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/

Explorer 2 : http://abe.darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/Anoncoin

[Cryptoslave]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

nono... if you want to sync fast AND use the coin what its for, then you enable i2p!
most peers on clearnet are very outdated wallets which are long incompatible.

Is Cryptoslave still around?

I am around, watching... I see the biggest issues are exchange rejection and community, not technology. This is the only difference between Verge and anoncoin, and you can see the impact on the respective price. I cannot invent a community of fake account and does not want to pay shills, this is not my job and I find the practice dishonest.

[machico]

Is there any good working qt wallet for windows?

Yeah, the wallet is working well. Look in the first post in this thread for download link. This is a very old coin, but it syncs quite fast.

If you need more clearnet nodes you can add these from novaexchange: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/ANC/

nono... if you want to sync fast AND use the coin what its for, then you enable i2p!
most peers on clearnet are very outdated wallets which are long incompatible.

Is Cryptoslave still around?

I am around, watching... I see the biggest issues are exchange rejection and community, not technology. This is the only difference between Verge and anoncoin, and you can see the impact on the respective price. I cannot invent a community of fake account and does not want to pay shills, this is not my job and I find the practice dishonest.

CS - You have done all you could for this coin but if the community is not interested, then the believers are fighting a loosing battle. Moreover, if the exchanges are only interested in volume/profit, then it will be difficult to list on other exchanges. ANC needs new developers if it is to survive.

[fredericos]

I support Anoncoin. I think everyone who do should come out and say so.
Also, if you say a community is important for ANC then we should really get a slack or similar and gather there.
IRC will not work to grow, for real.

[K1773R]

I support Anoncoin. I think everyone who do should come out and say so.
Also, if you say a community is important for ANC then we should really get a slack or similar and gather there.
IRC will not work to grow, for real.

slack is hostile for open communications.
everyone who runs anoncoin and supports the community, already has i2p installed and therefore can just join irc2p as well.
anoncoin is about anonymity/privacy and therefore operates in the i2p net. why should we use a centralized and non-anonymous way to communicate?

[fredericos]

Valid point but perhaps both could be available

[fredericos]

What exchanges are possible to pay a fee to get added to?
How about a fundraiser? I think we should get added somewhere more then nova.

[K1773R]

What exchanges are possible to pay a fee to get added to?
How about a fundraiser? I think we should get added somewhere more then nova.

how about some more buy/sell offers at http://exchanged.i2p/en/trade/btc_anc_360s ?

[julyt]

Is there a video demo tutorial for this project? It's interesting to see the picture

[fredericos]

What exchanges are possible to pay a fee to get added to?
How about a fundraiser? I think we should get added somewhere more then nova.

how about some more buy/sell offers at http://exchanged.i2p/en/trade/btc_anc_360s ?

Sure, thats very good, I mean it but...

Most people are not too tech savvy, I mean cryptocurrencies are starting to attract mainstream attention. What we need is both the advanced anon features in combination with tools of mass adoption.

I mean with some releases and marketing we can make this a 30 million dollar marketcap coin and and that would make us all rich, you could let your mom have the life that she deserve... just saying, lets get this pumping.

We are as good as Verge or better.

[fredericos]

So how about that Zerocoin implementation? that would be something special

[33Bit]

ANC Mining Pool

eg: cgminer -o stratum+tcp://anc.cryptox.eu:3034 -u  YourANCWalletAddress


Port: 3010, Diff: 8 Port: 3034, Diff: 32 Port: 3258, Diff: 256

Pay out every 30 min.
Pool fee 1.5%

[404Revolution]

So how about that Zerocoin implementation? that would be something special

Verge is trash. Did you know that shit used to be called dogecoindark?

[fredericos]

Yes well verge has a market cap of 72 million dollars.
Anoncoin is at 383k.

So that makes us 187 times smaller...
I mean, damn, we have some huge potential if we just roll out some news, updates, marketing

Lets go guys

[NPGhost]

I've been mining and holding ANC for several years, nearly from the start.  I agree potential is there, but it will require zerocoin integration, basically following the roadmap.  It does not matter to me if the timeline is long.

It is my opinion regular communication is needed beyond I2P for publicity for the coin to ever gain popularity and real value (bitcoin talk, twitter, slack), the very thing people trying to avoid attention loathe.  Further, with a very low value per coin as we have now, it cannot ever serve it's intended purpose to be an anonymous exchange of value until awareness is achieved.  It is again my opinion, somebody -at least 1 person who has some level of connection to the devs- will eventually need to officially attach their real name and face to this project to achieve its end goal.

[fredericos]

I've been mining and holding ANC for several years, nearly from the start.  I agree potential is there, but it will require zerocoin integration, basically following the roadmap.  It does not matter to me if the timeline is long.

It is my opinion regular communication is needed beyond I2P for publicity for the coin to ever gain popularity and real value (bitcoin talk, twitter, slack), the very thing people trying to avoid attention loathe.  Further, with a very low value per coin as we have now, it cannot ever serve it's intended purpose to be an anonymous exchange of value until awareness is achieved.  It is again my opinion, somebody -at least 1 person who has some level of connection to the devs- will eventually need to officially attach their real name and face to this project to achieve its end goal.

I mostly agree, zerocoin integration is needed and i too do not care about the timeline.
Just some work and progress, perhaps a news letter, monthly or even bi yearly.

And yes, we need to gather a community on slack, i mentioned it a couple of posts back.
Although it is very good with the i2p irc chat for those who want to, we still need a mainstream alternative.

Real name and face is way less important than above, but still a good thing to have.

[NPGhost]

I've been mining and holding ANC for several years, nearly from the start.  I agree potential is there, but it will require zerocoin integration, basically following the roadmap.  It does not matter to me if the timeline is long.

It is my opinion regular communication is needed beyond I2P for publicity for the coin to ever gain popularity and real value (bitcoin talk, twitter, slack), the very thing people trying to avoid attention loathe.  Further, with a very low value per coin as we have now, it cannot ever serve it's intended purpose to be an anonymous exchange of value until awareness is achieved.  It is again my opinion, somebody -at least 1 person who has some level of connection to the devs- will eventually need to officially attach their real name and face to this project to achieve its end goal.

I mostly agree, zerocoin integration is needed and i too do not care about the timeline.
Just some work and progress, perhaps a news letter, monthly or even bi yearly.

And yes, we need to gather a community on slack, i mentioned it a couple of posts back.
Although it is very good with the i2p irc chat for those who want to, we still need a mainstream alternative.

Real name and face is way less important than above, but still a good thing to have.

A name/face won't be important until zerocoin is integrated, and I agree it's not as critical as just having a slack,etc.  Then the question is who would step up to do it...doubt the devs, and I understand why.  Even to drive a slack, would likely be better if the devs aren't the moderators.

[fredericos]

I created a telegram chat.
Please feel free to join.

https://t.me/anoncoinanc

[fredericos]

I wonder how many ANC that has been lost through the years.
Crypty for example? Was there coins lost?

Perhaps this coin is more rare then we think

[GREEDYJOHN]

I wonder how many ANC that has been lost through the years.
Crypty for example? Was there coins lost?

Perhaps this coin is more rare then we think

it is too rare and too cheap

[shtako]

I wonder how many ANC that has been lost through the years.
Crypty for example? Was there coins lost?

Perhaps this coin is more rare then we think

This post got me curious.  

Looking at the rick list there is really no doubt. All the coins held by cryptsy have been moved and sold elsewhere. The top address on the rich list only cointains 128,000.00 ANC, 5,16%, and those coins havent moved for 3 years and 40 days.

Top 10 only cointaining 31.75 % is extremly low compared to other coin with this low marketcap. This might be evidence that anoncoin is very well distributed.

Compared with a few other coins, top 1 adress:

Anoncoin - anc - 5.16 %
Megacoin - mec - 29.14 %
shadowcash sdc - 78.08 %
Litecoin - ltc -    3.12 %
Quark - qrk - 17.88 %

anoncoin richlist: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/#!rich

[fredericos]

Come on guys gather in telegram chat lets create a great community we are obviously some fans here

[33Bit]

I wonder how many ANC that has been lost through the years.
Crypty for example? Was there coins lost?

Perhaps this coin is more rare then we think

This post got me curious.  

Looking at the rick list there is really no doubt. All the coins held by cryptsy have been moved and sold elsewhere. The top address on the rich list only cointains 128,000.00 ANC, 5,16%, and those coins havent moved for 3 years and 40 days.

Top 10 only cointaining 31.75 % is extremly low compared to other coin with this low marketcap. This might be evidence that anoncoin is very well distributed.

Compared with a few other coins, top 1 adress:

Anoncoin - anc - 5.16 %
Megacoin - mec - 29.14 %
shadowcash sdc - 78.08 %
Litecoin - ltc -    3.12 %
Quark - qrk - 17.88 %

anoncoin richlist: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/#!rich

Top1 was Crypty ?!

Anc now 2,110,317 max 3,000,000 minus about 200,000 lost on Crypty
Before was 200,000 usd daily trading on btc38 (about 2 months long)
I think anc save invest than ltc
Need a good community and boom

[shtako]

I wonder how many ANC that has been lost through the years.
Crypty for example? Was there coins lost?

Perhaps this coin is more rare then we think

This post got me curious.  

Looking at the rick list there is really no doubt. All the coins held by cryptsy have been moved and sold elsewhere. The top address on the rich list only cointains 128,000.00 ANC, 5,16%, and those coins havent moved for 3 years and 40 days.

Top 10 only cointaining 31.75 % is extremly low compared to other coin with this low marketcap. This might be evidence that anoncoin is very well distributed.

Compared with a few other coins, top 1 adress:

Anoncoin - anc - 5.16 %
Megacoin - mec - 29.14 %
shadowcash sdc - 78.08 %
Litecoin - ltc -    3.12 %
Quark - qrk - 17.88 %

anoncoin richlist: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/anc/#!rich

Top1 was Crypty ?!

Anc now 2,110,317 max 3,000,000 minus about 200,000 lost on Crypty

Nothing was lost on cryptsy. Someone sold those coins at btc38. Probably the http://cryptsyreceivership.com/.

[fredericos]

Anyone seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8W-OT29pKg

[fredericos]

Even though there is no real development att this point interest is really catching up.
Quite some people mining, and price increasing nicely recently.

Its such a shame nothing is being done, this could be a 10 usd coin pretty quickly

[Morbid]

ANC Mining Pool

eg: cgminer -o stratum+tcp://anc.cryptox.eu:3034 -u  YourANCWalletAddress


Port: 3010, Diff: 8 Port: 3034, Diff: 32 Port: 3258, Diff: 256

Pay out every 30 min.
Pool fee 1.5%

got an old 4x7970 miner. are there any scrypt asics running the hashes making it pointless using gpus?

also, given the conditions of funding & an intusiastic programmer as a team member. can this project move on? thoughts..

[fredericos]

The telegram group was a "channel" made it impossible for members to post.
I tried to create a telegram group but ended up creating a slack group instead.

Lets try to gather there by following this link:

https://join.slack.com/t/anoncoinanc/shared_invite/enQtMjU5NDI0MTc4MDMyLWVjNWEwNDRmODBiNTcyZTc3MWE3YjgzODMwNmRiOWNkMjdmOWEwMjc3ODUyNThkNGRjMDRkZWQ3OWM2N2Y5MTg

[fredericos]

ANC Mining Pool

eg: cgminer -o stratum+tcp://anc.cryptox.eu:3034 -u  YourANCWalletAddress


Port: 3010, Diff: 8 Port: 3034, Diff: 32 Port: 3258, Diff: 256

Pay out every 30 min.
Pool fee 1.5%

got an old 4x7970 miner. are there any scrypt asics running the hashes making it pointless using gpus?

also, given the conditions of funding & an intusiastic programmer as a team member. can this project move on? thoughts..

I think funding someone to integrate zerocoin and continue development is a good idea if the current developers are not up for it,
even funding them would be OK i guess.

[fredericos]

Hi all, sorry about all the different information.

Here is the new telegram group of anoncoin:
https://t.me/joinchat/GlkL4gzIzpbh195w7-3y7g

We are now 3 members, lets create a nice community guys.

[Franz McDinglehofmeisterb]

Saw this old coin jumped a lot today. I bought it for up to 8 dollars so I am still waiting for it to recover. I'm glad k1ll3r is still around, now at devcoin too. What happened to copyleft and all that Scandinavian stuff? Wasn't one of the devs from this coin off to the Philippines, lured by some cia hooker trying to discredit the anon movement?

[fredericos]

Here is what happened:

This is a short announcement on behalf of me, Meeh and a couple of friends who would like to work on the AnonCoin project.

TLDR;
Meeh and some other developers have started active development on Anoncoin. A new release expected in December. We have a Slack, talk with us here: https://join.slack.com/t/anoncoin/shared_invite/enQtMjU3Njk3MjE3MjM1LTAwZjU5ZmEzYTc0ZTg3ZDkxMGYyY2NlNWFkZGVmOTg1MGJlNTIzOTIxZDQ1YjI4NjFkM2NkZjU5Zjg1YzQ2OTQ

Intro.
Meeh started the project years ago, I've been around and following crypto for a few years. We've been talking about it for a while, but recently we decided to get together with a few more developers to work on Anoncoin again.

The blockchain is running, people are mining, but there has not been any activity on the git repo since June 19. After the delisting on BTC38 trading volume has been very low.

Community.
We would really like to revive the project and hope to see support from the community. There have been lots of people with valuable contributions over the years. Thanks to everyone, and especially the people who have kept the project alive for the last few years!

We will be active on both slack and IRC2P moving forwards. Hopefully, we can also manage to bring the Anoncoin Reddit back to life, it's a good place for new people to learn about the project. A new website is also being worked on.

All of this is suggestions and ideas. We want to hear from everyone with an interest in Anoncoin what they would like to see. We really want to see this project succeed and believe there is a huge potential, especially at this time with Bitcoin making new ATHs over and over and media is writing about cryptocurrencies constantly.

Goals.
In the coming 2 months, we would like to update the current codebase. We are planning to use the Actor Framework. The actor model has advantages with simpler scalability and concurrency. The goal is to have a new release ready in December.

For 2018 we have big plans that we would like to discuss with the community. We would like a new codebase, possibly based on CryptoNote instead of ZeroCoin. We would also like a more egalitarian PoW mining algorithm.

We will write in more detail about development goals in a roadmap soon, but it would be really good to hear what people think first. Talk with us on Slack here: https://join.slack.com/t/anoncoin/shared_invite/enQtMjU3Njk3MjE3MjM1LTAwZjU5ZmEzYTc0ZTg3ZDkxMGYyY2NlNWFkZGVmOTg1MGJlNTIzOTIxZDQ1YjI4NjFkM2NkZjU5Zjg1YzQ2OTQ

We are also at #anoncoin-dev on IRC2P.

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I'm back with some devs.

We will start push code to github in a few days.

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[Franz McDinglehofmeisterb]

... We want to hear from everyone with an interest in Anoncoin what they would like to see. ...

A lot of anon coins focusing on keeping transactions secret, those coins are really a dime a dozen and boring now.

Focus on politics, freedom of speech, forcing ethics on predatory government's etc.

That is what crypto should be about.

~

As for algorhythm, there will be an abrupt focus on useful algorhythm once the mainstream gets more fully involved. If you can figure out how to make the computer do something beside wasting electricity you will have a steep advantage. Maybe copy gridcoin or primecoin or one of the other useful algos, then throw in some ethical terrorist politics and very high standards regarding open source, free speech, non violence etc that will make the coin attractive to progressive people.

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[meeh]

What the hell! Is Meeh himself back? :O :O This is gonna be huge!

I followed Meeh at Twitter, but he seems to have changed his twitter handle or swapped account altogether:
https://twitter.com/I2Pd_PSolutions

Remember I asked if he's going to return to the anoncoin project, but he said he was too busy at the moment (if I recall correctly). This was like two or three years ago...

I better remove my sell orders

My account is actually https://twitter.com/mikalv - but we will get a hold on @Anoncoin and such again for official ANC stuff.

... We want to hear from everyone with an interest in Anoncoin what they would like to see. ...

A lot of anon coins focusing on keeping transactions secret, those coins are really a dime a dozen and boring now.

Focus on politics, freedom of speech, forcing ethics on predatory government's etc.

That is what crypto should be about.

~

As for algorhythm, there will be an abrupt focus on useful algorhythm once the mainstream gets more fully involved. If you can figure out how to make the computer do something beside wasting electricity you will have a steep advantage. Maybe copy gridcoin or primecoin or one of the other useful algos, then throw in some ethical terrorist politics and very high standards regarding open source, free speech, non violence etc that will make the coin attractive to progressive people.

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What the hell! Is Meeh himself back? :O :O This is gonna be huge!

I followed Meeh at Twitter, but he seems to have changed his twitter handle or swapped account altogether:
https://twitter.com/I2Pd_PSolutions

Remember I asked if he's going to return to the anoncoin project, but he said he was too busy at the moment (if I recall correctly). This was like two or three years ago...

I better remove my sell orders

My account is actually https://twitter.com/mikalv - but we will get a hold on @Anoncoin and such again for official ANC stuff.

Ah, it was mikalv. Tried searching for mikal, but could not find you so I assumed a handle change. Might be that I did not even follow you (now doing ). Can't find our "chat" history at Twitter though...

Nice having you back again, I mean you left the scene around 2014

Thanks, had some issues in RL I had to take care of, but they are gone now.

[oyvkva]

I'll post this here as well, we got a Slack here now:
https://join.slack.com/t/anoncoin/shared_invite/enQtMjU3Njk3MjE3MjM1LTAwZjU5ZmEzYTc0ZTg3ZDkxMGYyY2NlNWFkZGVmOTg1MGJlNTIzOTIxZDQ1YjI4NjFkM2NkZjU5Zjg1YzQ2OTQ

And there is the original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.5080 - I posted there as it has the longest history. Now that Meeh is back he can change and update the first post as needed.

[DraGonD]

Hi DEV

I want to buy AnonCoin but before i do, can you confirm that wallet anoncoin-0.9.6.13-win64-setup.exe  is the latest version to install?

Thanks

[oyvkva]

Hi DEV

I want to buy AnonCoin but before i do, can you confirm that wallet anoncoin-0.9.6.13-win64-setup.exe  is the latest version to install?

Thanks

Yeah that's the latest.

And we will post in this thread moving forwards: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.5080

[fredericos]

Cryptoslave. You should come back now!

We are all very active in Slack and work on developing, marketing and creating a great community.
Please join and contribute

[meeh]

Cryptoslave. You should come back now!

We are all very active in Slack and work on developing, marketing and creating a great community.
Please join and contribute

I got one PM from him after the announce - but he has yet to reply my reply :/ Hopefully he comes with some time

[Cryptoslave]

Cryptoslave. You should come back now!

We are all very active in Slack and work on developing, marketing and creating a great community.
Please join and contribute

What is the invite link?

[GREEDYJOHN]

Cryptoslave. You should come back now!

We are all very active in Slack and work on developing, marketing and creating a great community.
Please join and contribute

What is the invite link?

I hope that you are back to ANONCOIN? 

[CoinMenX]

one old project anonymity, where are you dev team?

[K1773R]

one old project anonymity, where are you dev team?

irc2p #anoncoin and #anoncoin-dev
always been, always will be.

[crunchybrain]

how much is soft and hard cap?

[QQ6693606]

where can down anoncoin-0.9.6.13-win64-setup.exe?

[RobbieRich]

where can down anoncoin-0.9.6.13-win64-setup.exe?

And why is Setting - Up so difficult ?
Hope the new/old Dev can make a newer , better App !

[fredericos]

Join the slack channel to talk directly with all people involved in Anoncoin!

https://join.slack.com/t/anoncoin/shared_invite/enQtMjU3Njk3MjE3MjM1LTAwZjU5ZmEzYTc0ZTg3ZDkxMGYyY2NlNWFkZGVmOTg1MGJlNTIzOTIxZDQ1YjI4NjFkM2NkZjU5Zjg1YzQ2OTQ

[rowenta01]

Hello,

This project can be interesting.

There are two points to think about:

- Change Bitcointalk link on coinmarketcap to indicate new thread
- Novaexchange will close, we should think that Anoncoin is listed elsewhere quickly otherwise people will find themselves blocked ... and there will be more exchange possible.

[oyvkva]

Hello,

This project can be interesting.

There are two points to think about:

- Change Bitcointalk link on coinmarketcap to indicate new thread
- Novaexchange will close, we should think that Anoncoin is listed elsewhere quickly otherwise people will find themselves blocked ... and there will be more exchange possible.

We use the original thread now so no need to update it. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.0)

Good point with the exchanges, we are working on it. We have been in touch with many exchanges and recently got listed at https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

[j4y_naKomodo]

Greetings, friends at Anoncoin!

As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug, and as a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible. We are reaching out directly to the developers and communities of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own wallet).

watchonly-GUI bug: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal. You can import <any address> and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777B: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:

• How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
• Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

We want to spread awareness and facilitate discussion of this bug to minimize the impact.

Of course - we can always talk about how you can use BarterDEX today to trade Anoncoin via atomic swap directly with your peers, through our beta GUI and without downloading the entire blockchain ; ) That is how we found the bug, afterall.

Stay safe,
Jay

[fredericos]

Anoncoin telegram

https://t.me/joinchat/GlkL4gzIzpbh195w7-3y7g

[youyou_]

Anoncoin telegram

https://t.me/joinchat/GlkL4gzIzpbh195w7-3y7g

Thank you. I'll join it.

[j4y_naKomodo]

Greetings, friends at Anoncoin!

Now that Komodo Platform has a stable GUI available on mainnet for our BarterDEX decentralized exchange, allowing the average user to trade peer-to-peer via atomic swap with 80+ Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrencies, we aim to expand the reach of our decentralized and open-source solutions and unite the coin communites -

• ATOMIC Swap trading following Noel Tiernan's protocol
• Control your own funds, maximizing security and privacy
  
• Automatic orderbook matching, trading p2p
• Integrate and List your coin for free
• Set up SPV electrum server, allowing users to trade your coin without downloading the entire blockchain
• Anyone can become a market maker or dedicated liquidity provider, pairing your coin with any other 80+ featured coin and allowing traders around the globe to access your coin
• Native trade bots can automatically buy low and sell high, allowing low and high volume traders to provide liqudity 24 hours a day

>> BarterDEX protocol (wp/git) >>

The following requirements are necessary for an easy integration:

• bitcoin protocol
• CLTV (bip 65) support
• gettxout and importaddress rpc calls
• and 8 digits for one coin

What does a non-Bitcoin/zCash-protocl coin need to do to make atomic swaps possible on BarterDEX?

"the code to do all this is quite complicated and I assumed a bitcoin protocol coin, but it is possible to do the atomic swaps even if only 2of2 multisig is supported. So i guess a bitcoin protocol emulator for the subset of rpc calls that I use and at least a 2of2 multisig, but preferably CLTV mechanism to be able to handle both sides of the trade... this would require making changes to the existing barterDEX code, unless the bitcoin protocol emulator is really, really good and it actually works as a bitcoin protocol coin via rpc calls"

Our goal is to  integrate as many cryptocurrencies into our ecosystem as possible, providing end-users with unparalleled privacy and control of their funds! The developers of Komodo Platform would be more than happy to assist with integration into the ecosystem. Please send me a DM if you are interested in joining our decentralized exchange!

Note: according to our tracker, ANC does not have CLTV. Is this still accurate? Any plans for implementation?

[fredericos]

Good times ahead for ANC

[gembitz]

Good times ahead for ANC

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

ANC volume pumping up!!    weeeee

[alaska2930]

Is there any link to this, any thoughts on if competition is trying to manipulate the  values by dumping loads of ANC on the cheap...

[Stellr]

Yeah, the coin has a good name and is pretty old. Has huge potential , it would be a shame if they just leave it fade away. I'm not an expert myself but i don't think is very difficult to integrate an anonymity layer , other coins did it successfully but maybe they had more resources and devs dedicated more time .

[E46nutbag]

a very detailed and profitable logo & website!

[sergwts]

nodes please

wallet win64 not sync

[JungleOnion]

why would anoncoin be doing good is there anything happening in the background or something? Because if there is volume accumulating and growing, something must be brewing.

[smt_red]

  Has huge potential , it would be a shame if they just leave it fade away

[makalu]

Does the ANC team have the latest progress? Where can I see it?

[ttookk]

Does the ANC team have the latest progress? Where can I see it?

This is not the main thread. I am not sure why this exists, but to get a point of contact, this is the original thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.5260

It is getting a little more active in there, interesting stuff coming up.

[jfriy]

Pool: http://pool2pool.asuscomm.com/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://pool2pool.asuscomm.com:3433 -u wallet -p c=ANC

https://coinmarketcap.com/ru/currencies/anoncoin/

Excange: https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ANC/

Excange: https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

[gembitz]

$ANC under 2OOO satoshis!    ===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

[gembitz]

ANC @ 1OOO SATOSHI!!!    HERE WEEE GOGGOGOGO+++

===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

[jwinterm]

ANC @ 1OOO SATOSHI!!!    HERE WEEE GOGGOGOGO+++

===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

A whale must be suppressing the price. Look at that huge volume of *checks notes* 0.0007 BTC over the last day.

[gembitz]

ANC @ 1OOO SATOSHI!!!    HERE WEEE GOGGOGOGO+++

===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

A whale must be suppressing the price. Look at that huge volume of *checks notes* 0.0007 BTC over the last day.

ANC yes whale watching lol

[GKar]

Are there any working nodes? 
Just found this on a backup hard drive and trying to sync. 

[TheBTCRat]

Are there any working nodes? 
Just found this on a backup hard drive and trying to sync. 

Just found my .dat but don't have the QT any more!