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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530837 times)
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March 16, 2017, 07:21:35 AM
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Dear Bitcoiners,

While the Bitcoin price is soaring, we are releasing a new S9 batch at one of the lowest prices among all batches.

The S9 miners of this batch can deliver a hashrate of 12.5TH/s and the shipping will start on or before 31st March 2017.

We advise all to confirm their orders at this link after 2300hours today (16 March 2017, GMT+8) while stock lasts.

Please reach out to us via support.bitmain.com for any queries.

Happy mining,

The Bitmain team

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March 16, 2017, 12:30:23 PM
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Great news, thanks!

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March 16, 2017, 12:50:30 PM
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I was going to respond, but the fact that you think you know how the firmware works and stated the exact opposite of how it actually does (even going so far as to show that you don't even grasp what the PIC is, how it functions, or what it contains) makes me realize facts and reality are meaningless to you.

lol thats fine buddy.

What a pain to skim through all these fights -_-, especially on a bitmain product post.
Agreed!
Might I politely suggest this particular discussion be moved to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1645898.msg18203472#msg18203472 which is a thread I started as soon as I got my batch-17 so long ago... That deals specifically with Auto-tune including the 'Why".

Seems like a good place to put this and keeps clutter here to a minimum...

lol sorry man. my posts get a bit long at times dont they??
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March 16, 2017, 01:16:20 PM
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So they are selling again?

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March 16, 2017, 01:57:14 PM
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Looks like it, phil.  I'm still waiting for the shipment of the previous 13.5THs batch of which I was foolish enough to drop some coin on...  Cheesy

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These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
Pushing a whopping 1/5 PH!  Oh The SPEED!!!
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March 16, 2017, 02:36:52 PM
Last edit: March 16, 2017, 03:07:25 PM by NotFuzzyWarm
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^^ Ditto.
Their site says 'cheapest price for a batch yet'. So wonder if us who ordered earlier will get coupons like the Feb customers did?

I see that Bitmain has dropped the Xilinx SOC in favor of Altera's (now part of Intel) Cyclone-V. Wonder why?

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March 16, 2017, 04:16:11 PM
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Did it showed up already and sold out or not yet?
I see that it is currently indicated as SOLD OUT, but it is past midnight in Beijing.
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March 16, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
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No it is not sold out yet

https://shop.bitmain.com/main.htm?lang=en
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March 16, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
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Thanks, they messed up the link in their announcement.
i was just curious...price is too high...good for the aftermarket, though.
Your cost=1.16 btc (1.115+$54 shipping=$1410)
7.81% difficulty rise=super bad (produce only 0.83btc total before going nonprofitable at 7c/kwh)
4% diff rise=produce 1.5 BTC in a year (still $425 in $deficit), so you depend on electricity cost below 7c AND bitcoin being stable or going up. No safety.
I'll pass for now.
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March 16, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
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^^ Ditto.
Their site says 'cheapest price for a batch yet'. So wonder if us who ordered earlier will get coupons like the Feb customers did?

I see that Bitmain has dropped the Xilinx SOC in favor of Altera's (now part of Intel) Cyclone-V. Wonder why?

are you talking about customers that ordered for the feb 20th delivery date?? because i didnt get any coupons for any of those miners....
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March 16, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
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... so you depend on electricity cost below 7c AND bitcoin being stable or going up. No safety.
I'll pass for now.
With that mentality, you'll never not pass. I'm sure that someone will gladly pick up the unit that you're passing on and enjoy their long-term profit gains.

If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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March 16, 2017, 05:46:00 PM
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... so you depend on electricity cost below 7c AND bitcoin being stable or going up. No safety.
I'll pass for now.
With that mentality, you'll never not pass. I'm sure that someone will gladly pick up the unit that you're passing on and enjoy their long-term profit gains.

nonexistant...as indicated by all measures. Of course, if you have cheaper power AND bitcoin appreciates, then you COULD make money.
Sure, go ahead and pick up 'my' unit. It is sold..to you, personally.
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March 16, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
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...Sure, go ahead and pick up 'my' unit. It is sold..to you, personally.
With a turnaround time under 230 days, I thank you and I grabbed 9 more after yours.  Grin

If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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March 16, 2017, 06:36:52 PM
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...Sure, go ahead and pick up 'my' unit. It is sold..to you, personally.
With a turnaround time under 230 days, I thank you and I grabbed 9 more after yours.  Grin

You probably base it off some overly optimistic numbers..
$1410 cost
1350 watts at the wall (1225+10%)
current 7.81% difficulty rise per adjustment period.
NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Check for yourself.

However, if difficulty is more reasonable 4% and cost of electricity is 5c/kwh, then only $178 loss by the day 376.
If electricity 3c/kwh, then breakeven by day 341.

Show your real numbers...Or not, since my electricity cost is much higher than 3-5c, which was my initial point anyway.
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March 16, 2017, 06:45:55 PM
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are you talking about customers that ordered for the feb 20th delivery date?? because i didnt get any coupons for any of those miners....

Did anybody from the 20/Feb batch receive a coupon?
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March 16, 2017, 06:50:30 PM
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...You probably base it off some overly optimistic numbers..
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I base it off the real world numbers of already owning them and already earning enough from them to spend 11.6BTC for 10 more (on top of the $0.10 p/kWh I pay for electric).  Wink

If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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March 16, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
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ah, you are basing this purchase on your PRIOR cap gains...understood.
someone who bought 1.16 btc at $170 in 2015 could claim that they only paid $197 for this miner.
I prefer numbers based on the current fiat/btc ratio.
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March 16, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
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I base it off the real world numbers of already owning them and already earning enough from them to spend 11.6BTC for 10 more (on top of the $0.10 p/kWh I pay for electric).  Wink

Not only a computer and genie, but also a show off. It is probably safe to say that you will only see a fraction of those 11.6BTC again, especially with $0.10 p/kWh electricity (though not entirely clear which currency that is).
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March 16, 2017, 07:51:36 PM
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...Sure, go ahead and pick up 'my' unit. It is sold..to you, personally.
With a turnaround time under 230 days, I thank you and I grabbed 9 more after yours.  Grin

You probably base it off some overly optimistic numbers..
$1410 cost
1350 watts at the wall (1225+10%)
current 7.81% difficulty rise per adjustment period.
NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Check for yourself.

However, if difficulty is more reasonable 4% and cost of electricity is 5c/kwh, then only $178 loss by the day 376.
If electricity 3c/kwh, then breakeven by day 341.

Show your real numbers...Or not, since my electricity cost is much higher than 3-5c, which was my initial point anyway.

Biodom, the flaw in your calculations is that you are forecasting a difficulty rise but not a BTC price increase. If the BTC price holds flat, the difficulty rise will not be 4% on average. You have to also assume a average % increase in price if you are going to assume an average increase in difficulty.

Nice try on convincing the mining market to wait tho Tongue

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March 16, 2017, 08:07:23 PM
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...Sure, go ahead and pick up 'my' unit. It is sold..to you, personally.
With a turnaround time under 230 days, I thank you and I grabbed 9 more after yours.  Grin

You probably base it off some overly optimistic numbers..
$1410 cost
1350 watts at the wall (1225+10%)
current 7.81% difficulty rise per adjustment period.
NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Check for yourself.

However, if difficulty is more reasonable 4% and cost of electricity is 5c/kwh, then only $178 loss by the day 376.
If electricity 3c/kwh, then breakeven by day 341.

Show your real numbers...Or not, since my electricity cost is much higher than 3-5c, which was my initial point anyway.

Biodom, the flaw in your calculations is that you are forecasting a difficulty rise but not a BTC price increase. If the BTC price holds flat, the difficulty rise will not be 4% on average. You have to also assume a average % increase in price if you are going to assume an average increase in difficulty.

Nice try on convincing the mining market to wait tho Tongue

I cannot predict the rise in btc as easily as you as it changes year to year.
2016 was good, but in 2014 price was going down, yet difficulty still rose from 1.180.923 to 40.640.955.017,
a full 34.4X while price went down from about $750 to $320.
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