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March 14, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
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What a bunch of wankers here, pre Prime bashing to encourage dumping before the release. Get a life the lot of you!
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March 14, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
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My god have you been living under a rock, Evan Duffield has taken far more abuse and accused of a lot more things by shills like you and donnatello on bitcointalk. He ignored the trolls and look how well Dash is doing today, the same will be for Gulden in the future.

https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae#.e7hnzfc3g

Since you want to bring it up, you cannot compare Evan Duffield and Rijk Plasman. They work so differently.

Saying that I'm shilling and trolling, what a lot of BS from you.
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March 15, 2017, 08:41:23 AM
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This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A):  random anonymous people on the Internet
B):  people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs <insert conspiracy theory here> it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs  Shocked maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

And I heard that you wanted to send the private address of PsychoticBoy to Rijk.
Difference between what I heard and you heard? I hear facts with actual proof.
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March 15, 2017, 09:51:44 AM
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This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A):  random anonymous people on the Internet
B):  people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs <insert conspiracy theory here> it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs  Shocked maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

And I heard that you wanted to send the private address of PsychoticBoy to Rijk.
Difference between what I heard and you heard? I hear facts with actual proof.

PsychoticBoy involved with all this, I thought it was dgb?

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March 15, 2017, 10:16:02 AM
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That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.
Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development.
Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding.

Ripple is centralized and Gulden is decentralized. This Rijk fellow can't put a gun to your head and tell you how to use your Gulden. Bitcointalk, slack etc is a community platform where rules can be made and enforced. I don't see the problem?

Why is Ripple centralized and Gulden not? Rijk determines what happens with the premine.
Kwaasteniet already said it is not decentralised but centralised. Gulden is of Rijk not ours.

Slack same story. Only Rijk determines who can speak and who not.
He fled the #gezellig channel yesterday because it will hurt nietstemmers political party and the new users were asking him questions about this channel and now he can say: I am not on that channel.
He has a lot to explain to the new users now. Stop this moderation now!

Do you think it is nice for the new users that Rijk is not honest and had/have an inner circle channel? Plans were made here (when to dump, how much to dump, who to invite on meetings etc) in secret.
Do you think it is fair that Rijk dumped the premine on the back of the new users and not being honest about it? Dash has a wonderful government system. Where there is a treasury. People can actual vote on proposals. There is no dictator like Rijk in Dash.
It is very quite on #gezellig now, some DGB friends mentioned that they should rename it to #ongezellig

DGB friends, rich of them to complain when they are dishonest about Twitter followers and stats, look at how the GRS community also exposed them. $250k investment that no one knows is true and yet Myriad had to help them with Multi-Algo. Why question this coin when your own house is not in order.



It's called jealousy but I wouldn't condemn their entire community. Most of them of them are most likely closet Gulden supporters but I have a feeling the GRS person is trying to instigate a fight between dgb and nlg users.

Altcoinfanatic and GRSisWIN are both the same person. imo.

GRSisWIN and Myriadcoin are the same person.

Let us get back on topic. How is Prime progressing?
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March 15, 2017, 10:29:47 AM
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This war with Rijk is not new. Some people invested in NLG and won and others invested in EFL and lost. There is a bitter resentment towards Rijk for the creation of NLG because he has made it a success.
You have to separate the political war you see on this forum from the actual development that is taking place with this coin, it's also the development that is fueling hate towards Rijk, if this coin did not have this value you would not hear a peep from these people attacking his integrity.

I haven't agreed with Rijk with some issues but his determination drives this coin forward and this I can respect him for.
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March 15, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
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This war with Rijk is not new. Some people invested in NLG and won and others invested in EFL and lost. There is a bitter resentment towards Rijk for the creation of NLG because he has made it a success.
You have to separate the political war you see on this forum from the actual development that is taking place with this coin, it's also the development that is fueling hate towards Rijk, if this coin did not have this value you would not hear a peep from these people attacking his integrity.

I haven't agreed with Rijk with some issues but his determination drives this coin forward and this I can respect him for.


This sums it up m8.
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March 15, 2017, 11:46:01 AM
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This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A):  random anonymous people on the Internet
B):  people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs <insert conspiracy theory here> it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs  Shocked maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

And I heard that you wanted to send the private address of PsychoticBoy to Rijk.
Difference between what I heard and you heard? I hear facts with actual proof.

PsychoticBoy involved with all this, I thought it was dgb?

Yes, thats the name I was not willing to mention.
Some Gulden people really seem to be afraid of this dude.
Why? Does he know to much?

CENSORSHIP is the fools reaction to the truth!
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March 15, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
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This topic is turning in such a facepalm....

Let me ask you this; who do you trust more?

A):  random anonymous people on the Internet
B):  people that are clear about who they are

Don't be sheeple, do your own research and make your own assesment of Gulden and I'm certain that if you look at the facts vs <insert conspiracy theory here> it will show you whether you should invest.

For the people who are genuinely interested in the project do check out the developer blog and come say hi in the Gulden slack. We got nothing to hide..

Why so hypocrite rkatz?
Nothing to hide? Why is there an inner circle/secret channel called #gezellig on Slack?
All conversations in that channel is being distributed through screenshots by my DGB friends.
They were even being questioned by management and getting questions if they are passing info on.
The conversations in those screenshots are disgusting. You certainly are hiding things from the community.

I heard rumors that members of the old Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst are involved in Gulden, things are going to blow up fast.

I heard Gargamel made a potion which he put in the water that the Smurfs drink and now all Smurfs send their herstelzin to Gargamel and he stole all Gulden from the Smurfs  Shocked maybe Gargamel is the one on bittrex pumping and dumping Gulden the last few months.

And I heard that you wanted to send the private address of PsychoticBoy to Rijk.
Difference between what I heard and you heard? I hear facts with actual proof.

PsychoticBoy involved with all this, I thought it was dgb?

Yes, thats the name I was not willing to mention.
Some Gulden people really seem to be afraid of this dude.
Why? Does he know to much?

I think if he didn't invest in EFL he would be friendly to Rijk. It was a messy situation the start of Dutch crypto. What made it worse is EFL turned out to be a scam by anonymous devs. This left bagholders and remaining EFL community wanting NLG and EFL to merge which Rijk refused. This is where the problem start.

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March 15, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
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also the development that is fueling hate towards Rijk, if this coin did not have this value you would not hear a peep from these people attacking his integrity.

I haven't agreed with Rijk with some issues but his determination drives this coin forward and this I can respect him for.


This is the typical irony when dealing with fanboys. One side will accuse you of anger because the coin is not doing well. Another side will accuse you of jealousy because the coin is doing well. One side will say you are new and don't understand the coin. Another side will say you have an old score to settle.

I have a suggestion for fanboys if you want to shill in this thread. Move away from all the motivation bullshit. Respect the intention of the original post. Talk about the value of Gulden as a coin CURRENTLY, and talk HERE. If you make a good point, people do listen.
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March 16, 2017, 06:32:54 AM
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Talk about the value of Gulden as a coin CURRENTLY, and talk HERE. If you make a good point, people do listen.

Community must forget past and focus on 2 problem with price.

1. Community is harmed by not on Poloniex when good development is made. 1000 * more btc to trade on poloniex then bittrex, look at ETH, DASH, XMR, NEM, REP. These coins go up in value as more traders follow the money and join Poloniex. Team need to make a deal to get on this exchange before Prime or the price won't go anywhere.

2. Extra blocks makes 20 000 nlg extra per 24hrs. Zcash show that increasing rate of supply only lead to lower value. 20 000 * 30 = 600 000 more NLG every month and 7.2 million more a year.
  
The team don't care because they have shares but they need to think about investors or no more people contribute to shares.

Forget last 5 pages here, the above is common sense.

I offer solution:

Lower reward to 80 and make deal with Poloniex. This balance extra block to only 10 000 more reward a day. Poloniex investors also contribute to shares when they see good development.





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March 16, 2017, 07:09:56 AM
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Lower reward to 80 and make deal with Poloniex. This balance extra block to only 10 000 more reward a day. Poloniex investors also contribute to shares when they see good development.

thing is nobody agrees with you. you are entitled to opinion, but you should understand it is opinion not fact, so stop repeatedly trying to ram opinion down other peoples throats nobody likes that
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March 16, 2017, 08:43:35 AM
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thing is nobody agrees with you. you are entitled to opinion, but you should understand it is opinion not fact, so stop repeatedly trying to ram opinion down other peoples throats nobody likes that

WTF is wrong with you. Which part of "I offer solution" is impolite or stating it as opinion not fact?

F***   You think this is NLG slack? Are you another pathetic fanboy who thinks you're helping NLG by slamming everyone with other opinions? Do you even know who KCY is?

Look at the price now. What do you want to blame it on? Your so-called trolls? The Dutch election? Climate change?
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March 16, 2017, 09:25:38 AM
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Talk about the value of Gulden as a coin CURRENTLY, and talk HERE. If you make a good point, people do listen.

Community must forget past and focus on 2 problem with price.

1. Community is harmed by not on Poloniex when good development is made. 1000 * more btc to trade on poloniex then bittrex, look at ETH, DASH, XMR, NEM, REP. These coins go up in value as more traders follow the money and join Poloniex. Team need to make a deal to get on this exchange before Prime or the price won't go anywhere.

2. Extra blocks makes 20 000 nlg extra per 24hrs. Zcash show that increasing rate of supply only lead to lower value. 20 000 * 30 = 600 000 more NLG every month and 7.2 million more a year.
  
The team don't care because they have shares but they need to think about investors or no more people contribute to shares.

Forget last 5 pages here, the above is common sense.

I offer solution:

Lower reward to 80 and make deal with Poloniex. This balance extra block to only 10 000 more reward a day. Poloniex investors also contribute to shares when they see good development.

Zcash the rewards are consistently increasing, it was setup as a coin for miners to make money, not long term investors.
Gulden reward is 100 until 1.68 billion is reached according to the devs.

Devs also said in cointelegraph article that initial goal is 1 Euro per coin, 3 coins and almost XMR have this market value for the Gulden supply. With projects like Prime I and II coming it's not hard to imagine this value for Gulden in the future.

I do agree more high volume exchanges will help short term to raise the price.
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March 16, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
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thing is nobody agrees with you. you are entitled to opinion, but you should understand it is opinion not fact, so stop repeatedly trying to ram opinion down other peoples throats nobody likes that

WTF is wrong with you. Which part of "I offer solution" is impolite or stating it as opinion not fact?

F***   You think this is NLG slack? Are you another pathetic fanboy who thinks you're helping NLG by slamming everyone with other opinions? Do you even know who KCY is?

Look at the price now. What do you want to blame it on? Your so-called trolls? The Dutch election? Climate change?

he repeats the same opinion about 50 times on this thread, each time stating it as fact when it is not, it is opinion. as for 'who he is', who gives a flying fuck, this is gulden not some old boys club, you don't get special treatment here because some people think you are rich or special and want to suck your knob in the outside world, if you want special treatment in the gulden world earn it.  I don't care if he is bill fucking gates if he wants some respect then he should actually do something positive for gulden instead of repeating over and over the same stupid theory about how a few extra coins a day are some massive disaster, you are either part of actually building the coin or you can fuck right off nobody gives a shit about how supposedly rich or not you are.

this is why people like you are so upset, you want to be treated special but you aren't, get used to it snowflake.

as for the current price, who gives a fuck, its a temporary drop based on various factors, no blame necessary. only fucking morons like you are worried about the short term price when the coin is making massive actual positive moves.
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March 16, 2017, 10:20:05 AM
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he repeats the same opinion about 50 times on this thread, each time stating it as fact when it is not, it is opinion. as for 'who he is', who gives a flying fuck, this is gulden not some old boys club, you don't get special treatment here because some people think you are rich or special and want to suck your knob in the outside world, if you want special treatment in the gulden world earn it.  I don't care if he is bill fucking gates if he wants some respect then he should actually do something positive for gulden instead of repeating over and over the same stupid theory about how a few extra coins a day are some massive disaster, you are either part of actually building the coin or you can fuck right off nobody gives a shit about how supposedly rich or not you are.

this is why people like you are so upset, you want to be treated special but you aren't, get used to it snowflake.

as for the current price, who gives a fuck, its a temporary drop based on various factors, no blame necessary. only fucking morons like you are worried about the short term price when the coin is making massive actual positive moves.

Okay, we hear you. You were right, and I was wrong. Nobody's a special snowflake, so we should all listen to you.

You can run back to your fucking slack now. Go and amuse yourself. Learn some English.
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March 16, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
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thing is nobody agrees with you. you are entitled to opinion, but you should understand it is opinion not fact, so stop repeatedly trying to ram opinion down other peoples throats nobody likes that

WTF is wrong with you. Which part of "I offer solution" is impolite or stating it as opinion not fact?

F***   You think this is NLG slack? Are you another pathetic fanboy who thinks you're helping NLG by slamming everyone with other opinions? Do you even know who KCY is?

Look at the price now. What do you want to blame it on? Your so-called trolls? The Dutch election? Climate change?

he repeats the same opinion about 50 times on this thread, each time stating it as fact when it is not, it is opinion. as for 'who he is', who gives a flying fuck, this is gulden not some old boys club, you don't get special treatment here because some people think you are rich or special and want to suck your knob in the outside world, if you want special treatment in the gulden world earn it.  I don't care if he is bill fucking gates if he wants some respect then he should actually do something positive for gulden instead of repeating over and over the same stupid theory about how a few extra coins a day are some massive disaster, you are either part of actually building the coin or you can fuck right off nobody gives a shit about how supposedly rich or not you are.

this is why people like you are so upset, you want to be treated special but you aren't, get used to it snowflake.

as for the current price, who gives a fuck, its a temporary drop based on various factors, no blame necessary. only fucking morons like you are worried about the short term price when the coin is making massive actual positive moves.

Don't worry, most of the people complaining here are like Geert Wilders, tell us problems but have no solutions. The Dutch is a nation with many different opinions and should largely be ignored as it shows in our politics. 28 parties and no outright winners, ignore the cucks on this forum who do nothing but complain.
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Don't worry, most of the people complaining here are like Geert Wilders, tell us problems but have no solutions. The Dutch is a nation with many different opinions and should largely be ignored as it shows in our politics. 28 parties and no outright winners, ignore the cucks on this forum who do nothing but complain.

The Dutch is a nation? The Dutch should largely be ignored? All my Dutch friends have been to school and make a lot of sense. But not you.

Are you trying to pretend to be an idiot? Or are you a real idiot?
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Don't worry, most of the people complaining here are like Geert Wilders, tell us problems but have no solutions. The Dutch is a nation with many different opinions and should largely be ignored as it shows in our politics. 28 parties and no outright winners, ignore the cucks on this forum who do nothing but complain.

The Dutch should be ignored? All my Dutch friends have been to school and make a lot of sense. But not you.

Are you trying to pretend to be an idiot? Or are you a real idiot?

I meant don't take everything being said as fact, many different opinions. Do your own research.
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I meant don't take everything being said as fact, many different opinions. Do your own research.

OK, you are starting to make sense. So what have you said that counts as a good opinion, or even half a fact? Why are you trying to silence people? You think shouting and shilling will sell Gulden in today's environment? IIRC some people were counting on your Wilders to sell more Gulden. The irony.
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